Wealthy men used to go to the theater to pick out chorus girls to deprave. Many of them were teenagers. And many careers were made from these liaisons.
She was actually very funny. She was actually very,very talented - she transitioned from Silent Film to "talkies" .. effortlessly. Blythe Spirit, Marion-.. fly free, free, free forever. 🎉
@@akrenwinkle You tagged me to correct my spelling of blithe? I used what the original poster did, and I never claimed she was in the film. But hey, I hope your ego inflated from all that.
Thank you for posting this compilation. I would like to tell you that the vocal sound is faint and the musical accompaniment was louder than the narrator. Marion Davies did many good works with her accounts, including saving W.R.'s magazines and newspapers from total bankruptcy. (Perhaps Mrs. W.R. and her boys realized this at some later point.) There were any number of global scandals which were covered, even provoked by Heart newspapers. It has always seemed to me that Marion Davies gave W.R. a happier life. And, when I saw Patricia Lake's obituary, in which she finally told everyone who her real parents were, I was so glad. There have been many celebrity offspring who were kept from mentioning their real parents. It was a tough time for Marion and her sister and others, and the Hearst family knows a great deal about every point involved. When the affair started, one cannot blame Phoebe Hearst for trying to protect herself and her boys from scandal. We live in incredibly different times, which may be more "open" but which just might also be less gentile.
I agree. They were something special because those photographers only had 3 options: lighting, pose, & exposure. With so few options, they had plenty of time to switch those options up in many combinations until they got it just right. Today's photographers have hundreds of options -dozens of types of color film, digital, AI enhancements, software programs, etc etc. that they no longer have the TIME to try enough combinations to get precisely what they are after. That's why, IMO, the old photos are superior to anything you see in today's newspapers & magazines. Cheers, friend. 👧@@smorgasbroad1132
Always my pleasure to share what I know and receive knowledge I DON'T know from people who do. BTW, I have been a photographer for over 14 years. Cheers, mate.@@smorgasbroad1132
The movie with Robert Mitchum portrayed her as strong and smart. It insinuated she saved him from bankruptcy. Because she was very rich. I'm going to have to do some investigating myself now. I find her fascinating. Just another case of a life taken over by a narcissistic bully.
@@ValleyoftheRogue I only used that word because it was a movie. Poetic license is the backbone of based on true story movie's. I admire her for her savvy. We're finding out we have a rich history of extremely smart women. The black women of NASA who put a man on the moon is a great example. The fact that nobody knew the story because it was kept hidden is some of our worst history. That's just one story of thousands. Plus the fact of men taking credit for their work is disgusting!
She loved the old man more than any other. She stuck by him through thick and thin. His kids were nice to her until WR died. Then they treated her horribly except for George. He was nice to her but his brothers discouraged him from having anything to do with her.
Hearst really did love her. And she did love him. Yes, it was age-inappropriate and all that, but we can't attach 21st century ideas to things that happened 100 years ago.
MD may have pretended to be Patricia's aunt but WRH wasn't her uncle by the same pretense since he and MD weren't married. Wanna bet the Hearst family threatened to reveal the girl was a 'B' which was a great disgrace even when I was a kid, so MD gave up all those shares of stock to (I presume) them? A mother's love protects her child at all costs.
They openly lived together and WRH had enough money to pay his wife Millicent to go away and leave them be. She was also a former show girl of 16 when they met and most likely had to live in a controlled relationship until Marion Davies relieved her of her duties. I'm guessing that Millicent knew of the child and made a deal to not tell and ruin him as long as he didn't try to divorce her. Maybe that's why Davies gave the shares back when WRH died? 🤔 She certainly wasn't on skid row after WRH died in 1951. She she left an estate of $20 MILLION when she died in 1961.
Marion Davies donated the Children's Wing at UCLA Medical Center. She also went there with Santa prior to Christmas and took all the Children's requests. She then fulfilled them and sent Santa to their homes with the Gifts. I know because I answered the door and there was Santa with what I had asked for. In addition I was the last kid in school who believed in Santa. That's because I knew my Father was in the other room and he definitely wasn't Santa. 😂. She was a great lady and lived in Santa Monica.
In his autobiography, The Moon's a Balloon, 😅David Niven spoke very lovingly of Marion Davies as he met her when invited to San Simeon by Hearst. He said she was the kindest, sweetest woman who took a childlike delight in matchmaking within the younger ranks of her guests. She would leave gifts and lovely things for guests visiting for the weekend. He certainly painted a wonderful picture of the amazing San Simeon and bemoaned the eventual opening of it to the public. Whilst an hilarious raconteur, Niven could sometimes be rather elitist and there really wasn't anything else that could be done with such a site. I hope it's all still intact and not been bulldozed to the ground by the likes of Pia Zadora and her hubby!
She was very well loved and had many friends. People try to make her way more sleazy than she was. Hearst couldn't get a divorce-it was a much different era then. She was basically married to him in all but name.
Patricia Lake, Davies daughter inherited $10 Million when she died in 1961. That's equal to $102.5 Million today. There's no mention of WRH leaving anything to Patricia or acknowledging her paternity.
I’ve been to Hearst Castle and heard about Marion through the tour guide. Apparently Hearst’s kids did a lot of demeaning things to Marion, including naming an elephant after her. I love elephants and if someone named an elephant after me, I’d be delighted! As for his wife refusing to divorce, according to the Catholic religion, the only way that could happen is the marriage had to be annulled. I’m not sure what that would do to the status of their children, which is probably why she refused to get a divorce: for her kids’ sake. I’m glad that she chose to move to New York to get away from the scene. Anyway, I really enjoyed this video! Marion was a beautiful lady!
I was at San Simeon, too, and the tour guide was a biyotch. "I can use the pool, but you can't. I can use such-and-such and you can't. I can do such-and-such here, but tourists can't." It was a long time ago but I remember the place was godawful, it would have been like living in a museum. The place seemed as if even back in time, it had been depressing, morose, lifeless... everything Marion wasn't.
You do know that Millicent was NO saint when she and Hearst got together? She was 14 and he was 34 when they started courting with her sister Anita as chaperone. They were married 6 years later. Millicent did try to divorce WRH in 1937, they had been estranged since 1926, and she insisted on the magazine "Cosmopolitan" as part of her property settlement to which he refused. They never reconciled and she outlived him by 23 years as still his wife.
The drinking didn’t “catch up with her”. She got bone cancer, and she was 64. I was expecting cirrhosis or some other alcohol-related illness. Sure, her immune system was probably somewhat weakened by the drinking, but it was not the cause of her death.
Marion was extraordinarily talented, she was very attractive, she had "a" voice. Marion was a real, honest Comedienne. She, as a person, as an Artist and Creator, has long been overshadowed by ..
I wonder if she really did come to love him. I really believe she did! Maybe she didn't love him at first but she definitely grew to Otherwise she wouldn't have been jealous when he was with other women, and as soon as she made her own money she would have dumped him. And even when he lost everything she gave him a million dollars in 1930 to save him from bankruptcy! Thats a crazy amount of money even today! Back then that was 20 million dollars in todays money. I also feel like she would have left him after what happened to her niece if she didn't love him as well. I do believe she did love him. I don't believe he loved her though. I think he loved the idea of her. I think he loved who he imagined her to be. But I don't think he actually loved her for herself. Maybe I'm wrong. We don't get that much information about him but it definitely feels like obsession and not true love
Honestly, thank you- I read this freakin' huge paperback about WRH., I was 7 when Patty Hearst got kidnapped and the huge paperback I read made me notice who Marion Davies was! 😅 .. She was something! 🎉
Hearst didnt lose everything, he had 2 households, 5 children to maintain and was buying Davies everything her heart desired after the great depression. She had plenty of property, money and assets thanks to Hearst's generosity.
Davies is one of my favorite actors. She was a brilliant comedian and was blocked from reaching her full potential. It’s heartbreaking that she couldn’t raise her own child.
“Rosebud.” I think that Davies and Hearst loved each other but were unable to have a mature stable relationship. Hollywood has always been a difficult place to navigate.
What a sad story but a beautiful person Marian was.i never knew much about her but she seemed like a down to earth person. Godbless You Marian Rest in peace🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋💐💐💐🐬🐬🐬🐬🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹AMEN
Watch the movie “The Cat’s Meow for an imagined reenactment of the the mysterious death of film mogul Thomas Ince. Louella Parsons was also aboard the boat. She worked for Hearst for many years. - perhaps she had a hold over him?
It is pronounced zig feld or field. The narrator got that right! Someone else pointed that ince rhymes with vince. But we do know who she's talking about.
You're right; the robot did say "Zigfeed" and the captioning caught that. There's only one correct pronunciation of Ziegfeld, and that's Ziegfeld. Those unfamiliar with Ziegfeld say "Ziegfield" but that's incorrect.
There are very few stars who are actually beloved by other stars but one name was in reality a very beloved and liked star. This charming little blonde evokes a whole thesaurus of admiring adjectives: warm, generous, fun-loving, beautiful, spunky, personable, giddy, saucy, vivacious, joyous, bubbly, pert, breezy and sentimental. She was Marion Davies and ego-maniacal Charlie Chaplin, in his biography, said, "To my surprise, she was quite the comedienne, with charm and appeal and would have been a star in her right without the cyclonic William Randolph Hearst behind her. There was a running joke in Hollywood that was a quote that was repeated over and over again that actually came from Parsons. In reviewing one of Marion's costume potboilers, Yolande (1924, Metro-Goldwyn) she had said, "Marion Davies, in costumes of the English period, has never looked lovelier." That joke was amusing as most of them were, and Marion herself would have enjoyed laughing over it, but other "jokes" were not harmless. The most notorious of the Marion Davies "jokes" was of course, the character of Susan Alexander in Orson Welles' Citizen Kane (1941, RKO), as the no-talent mistress of newspaper baron Charles Foster Kane, Susan is pushed into an operatic career which is unequivocally beyond her abilities. But the fact is that Marion Davies was NOT a no-talent actress. Marion was indeed a delightful mimic and a sparkling comedienne, and if her singing and dancing were not so topnotch, she was far better than many of her contemporaries in Hollywood. But, Hearst saw her only in a fantasy of romanticism and female respectability, and built her career around a series of ridiculous costume dramas, thwarting her talents as a comedienne. Marion, who loved Hearst "Pops" undeniably and did not give a damn about her career most of the time she would usually acquiesced. But Hearst loved Davies with great devotion and certainly would have married her if his wife Millicent would have consented to a divorce.
@@SparkyTuttle where in my comment did I say that? What I'm saying is with or without talent anyone can be famous....Kim Kardashian,Paris Hilton,as a matter of fact how about all of the Kardashians? I'm saying talent has nothing to do with fame. There are hundreds of guitarist on TH-cam that are very talented but aren't famous. As with a lot of people whom are extremely talented and not at all famous. The right pr person with the right connections could take someone with a small amount of talent and be made famous. Or take someone with absolutely no talent and make them famous also...I refer you back to the Kardashians. But I don't know where you see in my post that I said she wasn't talented. I guess Hearst ,the newspaper magnat said it best ....he who controls the news controls the world. So again what I'm saying is fame and talent have nothing to do with each other.
Have you every been on a boat attached by sea gulls and the damage they can cause? It was normal in that time to shoot sea gulls because the boats where made out of wood.
Most wealthy women, especially back then, turned a blind eye to the affairs. As long as they had their affluent lifestyle, and the mistress wasn’t in bed when the wife was……they were OK.
@@mchapman132 You speak as if they just didn't care, yet I think it was more a matter of being powerless to do anything much about it given divorces were considered sinful
@@IRosamelia - Yes, that too. My maternal grandmother was born in the late 1880’s in London. She told us much about the thinking of the day for women…..they were chattel…..possessions. They were told what to do by their husbands, and it was considered improper if they voiced an opinion let alone have one. Divorce was a disgrace, so just accepting the situation was their only choice. The very wealthy women could have many interests to keep them busy…..some even took a secret lover of their own.
2001 The Cats Meow with Kirsten Dunst, Edward Herrman and Cary Elwes amongst others is a pretty good movie imo. It’s about the weekend mentioned at around 5:03. Not sure how accurate the film is but still a good watch.
@@sarahholland2600 opps, didn't mean she personally was ridiculous. I meant the relationship between an obsessive older man and her was ridiculous. I'd really turn alcoholic if I was trapped by Hearst. I mean her whole career was in his paws.
That was an excuse... Catholics did divorce, but weren't allowed to remarry unless the ex died. He controlled the newspapers, so he controlled the scandals of his affairs.
Wrong, he asked his wife Millicent several times for a divorce but she would refuse. When she was finally ready in 1937, after living estranged for 11 years, they could not come to an amicable property division. She wanted "Cosmopolitan" magazine and he refused. He was worth over $200 MILLION when he died in 1951 and she was his widow. San Simeon Castle was immediately donated to the state of California in 1951. Davies and WRH had moved out in 1947.
There was a made for TV movie that showed Hearst meeting Marion in the park when Marion almost hit him while riding a bike. Who cares about legacy….she enjoyed life and went against what society deemed as a “moral” way to live. I guess the Davies Symphony Hall in San Francisco was dedicated to Marion.
Davies Symphony Hall is named after Louise M Davies, no relation, who was a major supporter of the arts in SF. She gave the Hall to the City, opening in 1980. She lived to be 98, and was a vivacious and generous personality.
THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION ! I lived in San Francisco from 1982-2005 and should have known that ! The apartment that I rented in 18th Street near Mission St. for $285. a month with garage included now rents for $1,800. a month not including garage !@@jeffnorris7592
Nope, Marion Davies was a chorus girl just like Millicent Willson his wife, only Millicent was just 14 when she and 34 year old WRH started dating. They were chaperoned by Millicent's older sister Anita.
WRH and Davies moved out of San Simeon Castle in 1947. No one was living there in 1951 when he died that August. It was donated to the state of California that same year.
Mrs. Hearst was Roman Catholic so a divorce would never be granted. Instead she did move herself and sons to New York and on their father's death the boys, loyal to Mother, did wipe Marion out of their father's life.
She tried to divorce him in 1937 after being estranged for 11 years but couldn't come to an agreement on property division, she wanted "Cosmopolitan" magazine and he refused so No divorce. After he died in 1951 and Millicent being his widow, she was left with over $200 MILLION. That's OVER $2.4 BILLION today. And San Simeon Castle was donated to the state of California in 1951 after WRH died. The family didn't want reminders of Davies.
It was part of her story. What was not nice was that it happened. You may be surprised to know that most humans have complex lives and they are not always a pleasant story.
Horrifying? So she was being paid for the photoshoot. And she got herself hired and basically got a whole studio. Plus she started an affair with a married man and his live in
She was very young when she saw him in the background. I mean, you are taking history and placing it on a girl who at that time only saw this guy watching her every night. Then she thinks she's going to a photo shoot , hired for her own talents. She finds out later it was WH. So yes, at that moment in time she was horrified.
Audio is weird on my Samsung Galaxy 22 the vocal speaking is really low and comes from top of phone and music is loud and clear and comes from bottom of phone.
It’s time for some DNA work. Would love for them to do DNA to reveal this big mystery. Although o do believe she is the daughter of. No reason to state that on your deathbed .
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Wealthy men used to go to the theater to pick out chorus girls to deprave. Many of them were teenagers. And many careers were made from these liaisons.
Still happening
Still happening
Yes the famous Gibson girl was one
Still happens except they are no longer called chorus girls, they are called strippers.
He was a creep who is burning in hell .
She was actually very funny. She was actually very,very talented - she transitioned from Silent Film to "talkies" .. effortlessly. Blythe Spirit, Marion-.. fly free, free, free forever. 🎉
Agree, whoever said she was talentless was most likely very jealous of her. She was both beautiful and talented.
Hearst suppressed her comedic career, buried the films for decades because he wanted a 'dramatic actress' for mistress.
I loved her in Blythe Spirit and played that part in college. That was many years ago, but it was still funny then.
@@pamorama It's spelled "blithe" and Marion never was in "Blithe Spirit."
@@akrenwinkle You tagged me to correct my spelling of blithe? I used what the original poster did, and I never claimed she was in the film. But hey, I hope your ego inflated from all that.
Thank you for posting this compilation. I would like to tell you that the vocal sound is faint and the musical accompaniment was louder than the narrator. Marion Davies did many good works with her accounts, including saving W.R.'s magazines and newspapers from total bankruptcy. (Perhaps Mrs. W.R. and her boys realized this at some later point.) There were any number of global scandals which were covered, even provoked by Heart newspapers. It has always seemed to me that Marion Davies gave W.R. a happier life. And, when I saw Patricia Lake's obituary, in which she finally told everyone who her real parents were, I was so glad. There have been many celebrity offspring who were kept from mentioning their real parents. It was a tough time for
Marion and her sister and others, and the Hearst family knows a great deal about every point involved. When the affair started, one cannot blame Phoebe Hearst for trying to protect herself and her boys from scandal. We live in incredibly different times, which may be more "open" but which just might also be less gentile.
What narration. All I got was 10 minutes of pictures and music. No narration.
40 seconds in...my guess...the "niece"is her illegitimate daughter...
Same here. But didnt see Hearst as the father until it was revealed.
Yep.
Had to be Hearst!
What ever became of that beautiful style of photography? The photos of her are ethereal.
P.S. Hurst's spooky eyes would terrify me.
It's called black & white.
@@mjholiday557More than just black and white, the lighting and composition were something special.
I agree. They were something special because those photographers only had 3 options: lighting, pose, & exposure. With so few options, they had plenty of time to switch those options up in many combinations until they got it just right. Today's photographers have hundreds of options -dozens of types of color film, digital, AI enhancements, software programs, etc etc. that they no longer have the TIME to try enough combinations to get precisely what they are after. That's why, IMO, the old photos are superior to anything you see in today's newspapers & magazines. Cheers, friend. 👧@@smorgasbroad1132
Well said mj! You're so right, but I never thought about it that way. Brilliant!👍👌Thank you.
Always my pleasure to share what I know and receive knowledge I DON'T know from people who do. BTW, I have been a photographer for over 14 years. Cheers, mate.@@smorgasbroad1132
The movie with Robert Mitchum portrayed her as strong and smart. It insinuated she saved him from bankruptcy. Because she was very rich. I'm going to have to do some investigating myself now. I find her fascinating. Just another case of a life taken over by a narcissistic bully.
It wasn't an "insinuation." She did back during the crash.
@@ValleyoftheRogue I only used that word because it was a movie. Poetic license is the backbone of based on true story movie's. I admire her for her savvy. We're finding out we have a rich history of extremely smart women. The black women of NASA who put a man on the moon is a great example. The fact that nobody knew the story because it was kept hidden is some of our worst history. That's just one story of thousands. Plus the fact of men taking credit for their work is disgusting!
She loved the old man more than any other. She stuck by him through thick and thin. His kids were nice to her until WR died. Then they treated her horribly except for George. He was nice to her but his brothers discouraged him from having anything to do with her.
Hearst really did love her. And she did love him. Yes, it was age-inappropriate and all that, but we can't attach 21st century ideas to things that happened 100 years ago.
Actually she was a victim of abuse and had to resign herself to it. What chance did she have against a millionaire as a teenager in that age?
A very interesting point of view ; I suppose her love for , Hurst may be described as a case of , Stockholm syndrome then ...
@@mikeyates7931 Resigning herself to what she had no escape from and he being more experienced knowing how to win her over
@@maximillianafrancine1451 Quite true
Exactly. The perv literally stalked her.
Yup, Stockholm syndrome.
MD may have pretended to be Patricia's aunt but WRH wasn't her uncle by the same pretense since he and MD weren't married. Wanna bet the Hearst family threatened to reveal the girl was a 'B' which was a great disgrace even when I was a kid, so MD gave up all those shares of stock to (I presume) them? A mother's love protects her child at all costs.
Not true in my mothers case , but I see your point ...
@@mikeyates7931 Sorry.
They openly lived together and WRH had enough money to pay his wife Millicent to go away and leave them be.
She was also a former show girl of 16 when they met and most likely had to live in a controlled relationship until Marion Davies relieved her of her duties. I'm guessing that Millicent knew of the child and made a deal to not tell and ruin him as long as he didn't try to divorce her. Maybe that's why Davies gave the shares back when WRH died? 🤔
She certainly wasn't on skid row after WRH died in 1951.
She she left an estate of $20 MILLION when she died in 1961.
Marion Davies donated the Children's Wing at UCLA Medical Center. She also went there with Santa prior to Christmas and took all the Children's requests. She then fulfilled them and sent Santa to their homes with the Gifts. I know because I answered the door and there was Santa with what I had asked for. In addition I was the last kid in school who believed in Santa. That's because I knew my Father was in the other room and he definitely wasn't Santa. 😂. She was a great lady and lived in Santa Monica.
Thats a beautiful memory
In his autobiography, The Moon's a Balloon, 😅David Niven spoke very lovingly of Marion Davies as he met her when invited to San Simeon by Hearst. He said she was the kindest, sweetest woman who took a childlike delight in matchmaking within the younger ranks of her guests. She would leave gifts and lovely things for guests visiting for the weekend. He certainly painted a wonderful picture of the amazing San Simeon and bemoaned the eventual opening of it to the public. Whilst an hilarious raconteur, Niven could sometimes be rather elitist and there really wasn't anything else that could be done with such a site. I hope it's all still intact and not been bulldozed to the ground by the likes of Pia Zadora and her hubby!
She was very well loved and had many friends. People try to make her way more sleazy than she was. Hearst couldn't get a divorce-it was a much different era then. She was basically married to him in all but name.
"Untalented, social climbing mistress" ?? That was mean.
Yes very, and victim blaming.
Marion Davies was not in any way like the no-talent opera singer Susan Alexander (Dorothy Comingore) in the classic 1941 film, "Citizen Kane."
I feel sorry for her. And him putting her niece in a mental hospital-evil. Wondering if her daughter inherited anything from his estate.
Good question - I don't know the good answer , but it is an excellent question ...
Especially since it was his daughter too. Who does that?
Patricia Lake, Davies daughter inherited $10 Million when she died in 1961.
That's equal to $102.5 Million today.
There's no mention of WRH leaving anything to Patricia or acknowledging her paternity.
I’ve been to Hearst Castle and heard about Marion through the tour guide. Apparently Hearst’s kids did a lot of demeaning things to Marion, including naming an elephant after her. I love elephants and if someone named an elephant after me, I’d be delighted!
As for his wife refusing to divorce, according to the Catholic religion, the only way that could happen is the marriage had to be annulled. I’m not sure what that would do to the status of their children, which is probably why she refused to get a divorce: for her kids’ sake. I’m glad that she chose to move to New York to get away from the scene.
Anyway, I really enjoyed this video! Marion was a beautiful lady!
I was at San Simeon, too, and the tour guide was a biyotch. "I can use the pool, but you can't. I can use such-and-such and you can't. I can do such-and-such here, but tourists can't." It was a long time ago but I remember the place was godawful, it would have been like living in a museum. The place seemed as if even back in time, it had been depressing, morose, lifeless... everything Marion wasn't.
You do know that Millicent was NO saint when she and Hearst got together? She was 14 and he was 34 when they started courting with her sister Anita as chaperone. They were married 6 years later.
Millicent did try to divorce WRH in 1937, they had been estranged since 1926, and she insisted on the magazine "Cosmopolitan" as part of her property settlement to which he refused.
They never reconciled and she outlived him by 23 years as still his wife.
@@TheNester.If she was 14 , then he was the equivalent of a pedophile grooming her. 🤢 She was a child .
Interesting to see photos of Hearst as a young man.
The drinking didn’t “catch up with her”. She got bone cancer, and she was 64. I was expecting cirrhosis or some other alcohol-related illness. Sure, her immune system was probably somewhat weakened by the drinking, but it was not the cause of her death.
Alcohol does increase your risk of cancer.
Coroners due not apply "increase of risk" as "cause of death". Being unable to swim does not alter the fact that you died by drowning.
Thank you.
Marion was extraordinarily talented, she was very attractive, she had "a" voice. Marion was a real, honest Comedienne. She, as a person, as an Artist and Creator, has long been overshadowed by ..
“Guests would arrive by private train or fly into the private airport…”. Shows boat.
Wow, fascinating story. If you get to go to the castle don't pass it up. It's breathtaking.
I wonder if she really did come to love him. I really believe she did! Maybe she didn't love him at first but she definitely grew to Otherwise she wouldn't have been jealous when he was with other women, and as soon as she made her own money she would have dumped him. And even when he lost everything she gave him a million dollars in 1930 to save him from bankruptcy! Thats a crazy amount of money even today! Back then that was 20 million dollars in todays money. I also feel like she would have left him after what happened to her niece if she didn't love him as well. I do believe she did love him. I don't believe he loved her though. I think he loved the idea of her. I think he loved who he imagined her to be. But I don't think he actually loved her for herself. Maybe I'm wrong. We don't get that much information about him but it definitely feels like obsession and not true love
Honestly, thank you- I read this freakin' huge paperback about WRH., I was 7 when Patty Hearst got kidnapped and the huge paperback I read made me notice who Marion Davies was! 😅 .. She was something! 🎉
Hearst didnt lose everything, he had 2 households, 5 children to maintain and was buying Davies everything her heart desired after the great depression.
She had plenty of property, money and assets thanks to Hearst's generosity.
I'm addicted to this channel. Addicted!
Davies did just fine, except for the drinking. She was well liked by all, her book tells a very good, honest story, THE TIMES WE HAD.
I read that book. Fascinating insight with a lot of inside information from first person narration.
She was an extremely talented 👏 performer. She was pretty, funny, and enjoyed a good time.
Really enjoyed this video. Love your voice. Just one small complaint, the background music was a tadge overpowering, to be honest.
Hurst would have a restraining order against him today.
These wealthy powerful men make my skin crawl.
Davies is one of my favorite actors. She was a brilliant comedian and was blocked from reaching her full potential. It’s heartbreaking that she couldn’t raise her own child.
So sad. It seems that money and fame don't necessarily spell happiness.
They never have. They spell illusions pretty good but happiness? Sorry.
Neither does an open adulterous relationship that your 5 children know about.
Awful people really.
“Rosebud.” I think that Davies and Hearst loved each other but were unable to have a mature stable relationship. Hollywood has always been a difficult place to navigate.
Not "In-cee", just "Ince". Like "once".
What a sad story but a beautiful person Marian was.i never knew much about her but she seemed like a down to earth person. Godbless You Marian Rest in peace🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋💐💐💐🐬🐬🐬🐬🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹AMEN
Nothing beautiful about an open adulterous relationship.
@@TheNester. my goodness you really love people.
I highly recommend watching The Hearst and Davies Affair. I found it very enjoyable.
Watch the movie “The Cat’s Meow for an imagined reenactment of the the mysterious death of film mogul Thomas Ince. Louella Parsons was also aboard the boat. She worked for Hearst for many years. - perhaps she had a hold over him?
I'm going to find that. 👍🏽
2002? found a couple shorts from the '20's and a new Kirsten Dunst one.
Great movie! I've seen it several times. Cary Elwes played Thomas Ince, and Eddie Izzard as Charlie Chaplin.
A great movie.
And im speaking of the one with Kirsten Dunst. Shes fantastic and the guy who plays Chaplan Remy Malek... and TILDA SWINTON.. Really good
She founded and funded a children's hospital.
She was very generous and charitable. She was Hearst's companion till the very end of his life.
Bless her.
It sounded like you said "Zigfeed Follies"
... It's *Ziegfeld Follies
Ziegfeld is pronounced:
'Zeeg-felld'
It is pronounced zig feld or field. The narrator got that right! Someone else pointed that ince rhymes with vince. But we do know who she's talking about.
You're right; the robot did say "Zigfeed" and the captioning caught that. There's only one correct pronunciation of Ziegfeld, and that's Ziegfeld. Those unfamiliar with Ziegfeld say "Ziegfield" but that's incorrect.
Marion Davies was a natural comedienne but Hearst constantly wanted her to star in over-the-top dramatic roles.
There are very few stars who are actually beloved by other stars but one name was in reality a very beloved and liked star. This charming little blonde evokes a whole thesaurus of admiring adjectives: warm, generous, fun-loving, beautiful, spunky, personable, giddy, saucy, vivacious, joyous, bubbly, pert, breezy and sentimental. She was Marion Davies and ego-maniacal Charlie Chaplin, in his biography, said, "To my surprise, she was quite the comedienne, with charm and appeal and would have been a star in her right without the cyclonic William Randolph Hearst behind her. There was a running joke in Hollywood that was a quote that was repeated over and over again that actually came from Parsons. In reviewing one of Marion's costume potboilers, Yolande (1924, Metro-Goldwyn) she had said, "Marion Davies, in costumes of the English period, has never looked lovelier." That joke was amusing as most of them were, and Marion herself would have enjoyed laughing over it, but other "jokes" were not harmless. The most notorious of the Marion Davies "jokes" was of course, the character of Susan Alexander in Orson Welles' Citizen Kane (1941, RKO), as the no-talent mistress of newspaper baron Charles Foster Kane, Susan is pushed into an operatic career which is unequivocally beyond her abilities. But the fact is that Marion Davies was NOT a no-talent actress. Marion was indeed a delightful mimic and a sparkling comedienne, and if her singing and dancing were not so topnotch, she was far better than many of her contemporaries in Hollywood. But, Hearst saw her only in a fantasy of romanticism and female respectability, and built her career around a series of ridiculous costume dramas, thwarting her talents as a comedienne. Marion, who loved Hearst "Pops" undeniably and did not give a damn about her career most of the time she would usually acquiesced. But Hearst loved Davies with great devotion and certainly would have married her if his wife Millicent would have consented to a divorce.
This is really an intriguing and well done compilation however, her name is pronounced Day-vees, not Davis. 😊
That irritated me too. The narrator kept switching between Davis and Davies.
With the right PR anyone can be famous,and when your PR man owns the news of course she was famous
So you don't think she was talented? It seems most disagree with you.
@@SparkyTuttle where in my comment did I say that? What I'm saying is with or without talent anyone can be famous....Kim Kardashian,Paris Hilton,as a matter of fact how about all of the Kardashians? I'm saying talent has nothing to do with fame. There are hundreds of guitarist on TH-cam that are very talented but aren't famous. As with a lot of people whom are extremely talented and not at all famous. The right pr person with the right connections could take someone with a small amount of talent and be made famous. Or take someone with absolutely no talent and make them famous also...I refer you back to the Kardashians. But I don't know where you see in my post that I said she wasn't talented. I guess Hearst ,the newspaper magnat said it best ....he who controls the news controls the world. So again what I'm saying is fame and talent have nothing to do with each other.
But she was talented...very ❤
Davies was not a shy teenager. She had been raided in the fashion of Parisian Courtesans. Don’t kid yourself.
W.R.. Hearst was supposed to have been an anti-vivisectionist, yet cruelly shoot sea gulls from the boat.
Have you every been on a boat attached by sea gulls and the damage they can cause? It was normal in that time to shoot sea gulls because the boats where made out of wood.
Hi,first time viewer, found this video interesting and informative 😊 Knew the shooting story. But the rest was new for me❤😊Allan&Family
No words to this story, don’t assume we all know everything.
The castle is a very nice place to visit.
Hearst's father was quite a remarkable and accomplished man, and from reports a good-hearted guy. I wonder how he felt about his scion.
Oh the life of the rich & famous, no different to commoners except for the money & opulent lifestyle.
Saw a photo of the family members of Ms. Lake from the piece from Vanity Fair magazine and you swear you saw the cousins of Hearst family members.
I'm sure Hearst's wife was thrilled 🙄
Most wealthy women, especially back then, turned a blind eye to the affairs. As long as they had their affluent lifestyle, and the mistress wasn’t in bed when the wife was……they were OK.
@@mchapman132 You speak as if they just didn't care, yet I think it was more a matter of being powerless to do anything much about it given divorces were considered sinful
@@IRosamelia - Yes, that too. My maternal grandmother was born in the late 1880’s in London. She told us much about the thinking of the day for women…..they were chattel…..possessions. They were told what to do by their husbands, and it was considered improper if they voiced an opinion let alone have one. Divorce was a disgrace, so just accepting the situation was their only choice. The very wealthy women could have many interests to keep them busy…..some even took a secret lover of their own.
Why do you say Davies sometimes, and Davis other times? What about "Incey?"
Can we go back to narration by real people?
2001 The Cats Meow with Kirsten Dunst, Edward Herrman and Cary Elwes amongst others is a pretty good movie imo. It’s about the weekend mentioned at around 5:03. Not sure how accurate the film is but still a good watch.
Was there supposed to be a story here? I just got 10 minutes of photos and music. No narration at all. Weird.
so many things wrong with this "story."
Love? Controlled. Drunk all the time. Dominant partner dies. Erased from life. Drinks . Sigh. Ridiculous.
Sad, not ridiculous. Extremely talented & successful actress, but manipulated & controlled by him. You'd prob end up drinking too
@@sarahholland2600 opps, didn't mean she personally was ridiculous. I meant the relationship between an obsessive older man and her was ridiculous. I'd really turn alcoholic if I was trapped by Hearst. I mean her whole career was in his paws.
That was her child bye him
Good review. Hearst didn't divorce because he was Catholic.
Hypocrite
Yup. And so was his wife.
@@LQOTW Yes, especially his wife.
That was an excuse... Catholics did divorce, but weren't allowed to remarry unless the ex died. He controlled the newspapers, so he controlled the scandals of his affairs.
Wrong, he asked his wife Millicent several times for a divorce but she would refuse.
When she was finally ready in 1937, after living estranged for 11 years, they could not come to an amicable property division.
She wanted "Cosmopolitan" magazine and he refused.
He was worth over $200 MILLION when he died in 1951 and she was his widow.
San Simeon Castle was immediately donated to the state of California in 1951.
Davies and WRH had moved out in 1947.
There was a made for TV movie that showed Hearst meeting Marion in the park when Marion almost hit him while riding a bike. Who cares about legacy….she enjoyed life and went against what society deemed as a “moral” way to live. I guess the Davies Symphony Hall in San Francisco was dedicated to Marion.
Davies Symphony Hall is named after Louise M Davies, no relation, who was a major supporter of the arts in SF. She gave the Hall to the City, opening in 1980. She lived to be 98, and was a vivacious and generous personality.
THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION ! I lived in San Francisco from 1982-2005 and should have known that ! The apartment that I rented in 18th Street near Mission St. for $285. a month with garage included now rents for $1,800. a month not including garage !@@jeffnorris7592
Nope, Marion Davies was a chorus girl just like Millicent Willson his wife, only Millicent was just 14 when she and 34 year old WRH started dating.
They were chaperoned by Millicent's older sister Anita.
They have put in flashing words , some sort of subliminal stuff I suppose. Won’t be revisiting this channel 🥴
Could hardly hear this, music was so loud.
1:01 that's William Randolph Hearst Junior, the second of his five sons
When his wife showed up she had to move out.
WRH and Davies moved out of San Simeon Castle in 1947.
No one was living there in 1951 when he died that August.
It was donated to the state of California that same year.
@@TheNester. he died in her home in LA and then whisked his body out of the home before Marion even knew. Maybe you should read a few books.
@@rathertiredofthemess2841
Try proofreading your comments before sending them out, You might look credible. 😂
@@TheNester. I left out the word they…you’re not smart enough to infer? Who needs to look credible?
Would love to watch the video to the end, but the background music is too intrusive.
Mrs. Hearst was Roman Catholic so a divorce would never be granted. Instead she did move herself and sons to New York and on their father's death the boys, loyal to Mother, did wipe Marion out of their father's life.
She tried to divorce him in 1937 after being estranged for 11 years but couldn't come to an agreement on property division, she wanted "Cosmopolitan" magazine and he refused so No divorce.
After he died in 1951 and Millicent being his widow, she was left with over $200 MILLION.
That's OVER $2.4 BILLION today.
And San Simeon Castle was donated to the state of California in 1951 after WRH died. The family didn't want reminders of Davies.
They fudged⁉️ LIED‼️
2:10 Joe Kennedy?
Unfortunately I did not have any audio 😢
Guests arrived by the now-forgotten seagoing train.
The music much louder than the narrative
So, what was the reason for introducing the other niece? Just to use her suicide? Not very nice.
It was part of her story. What was not nice was that it happened. You may be surprised to know that most humans have complex lives and they are not always a pleasant story.
This audio mix was too hot. VO battling it out with the music bed.
Horrifying? So she was being paid for the photoshoot. And she got herself hired and basically got a whole studio. Plus she started an affair with a married man and his live in
She was very young when she saw him in the background. I mean, you are taking history and placing it on a girl who at that time only saw this guy watching her every night. Then she thinks she's going to a photo shoot , hired for her own talents. She finds out later it was WH. So yes, at that moment in time she was horrified.
Nothing to be jealous about here
Revelation 21:3,4
John 5:28
Isaiah 35:5,6
All I got was music and pics of different people. So I'm guessing this was click bait for views.
HURST was a rich greedy arrogant evil snake 🐍
I wonder if patty herst was named after her aunt
No.
No one knows, but she inherited some of that Hearst money.
She's worth $50 MILLION.
Luckiest girl on the planet.
Oh, I see who here can be bought , trading your life for bucks. Who knows maybe you will get your chance.
Audio is weird on my Samsung Galaxy 22 the vocal speaking is really low and comes from top of phone and music is loud and clear and comes from bottom of phone.
Same here on my IPad.
On my desktop Windows computer, all the sound came through the left speaker.
Same on headphones 😮
Hearst was so evil
He was a Pedo too! His wife Millicent was just 14 when he met her, he was 34! She too was on stage.
Incy? LOL
Patticia Hearst... Related to Patty Hearst?
Patricia Lake.... Was probably an aunt to Patty Hearst.
Hearst called her "Rosebud". Everyone else called her "Onion Bagel".
annoying mispronounced words
Terrible sound, soft voice and louder music.
It’s time for some DNA work. Would love for them to do DNA to reveal this big mystery. Although o do believe she is the daughter of. No reason to state that on your deathbed .
Being a side chick. You never prosper I don’t feel sorry for her at all!
Everybody already knows Patrica Lake’s true parentage. Thanks for the nothingburger.