JRR Tolkien - 1965 AUDIO interview by BBC Gueroult - SUBTITLES

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  • This is just the same copy of the well-known interview, from 1965 BBC by Denys Gueroult.
    I include it here finally since I am already putting all of Tolkien's interviews in one spot in this channel.
    Subtitle is greatly improved than other online versions.
    Gueroult interviewed Tolkien in 1964.11 (short session) and 1965.01 (longer);
    BBC produced this longer remix from both sessions.
    Short version was first broadcast in 1970.12 (BBC labels it 1964 mistakenly; 1965 is correct.)
    - this is the longest of all published Tolkien interviews.
    - a very good session; covers a wide variety of topics.
    - timestamps are added for each segment.
    Credit / Source:
    - Tolkien Estate & BBC
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    - for fan collection purposes; copyright belongs to their owners
    - for lore discussion please use Reddit / tolkienfans

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  • @TalkingAboutTolkien
    @TalkingAboutTolkien  ปีที่แล้ว +55

    00:15 midgard
    03:00 names (dwarves)
    04:00 names (elven)
    04:45 tree
    05:00 not symbols
    05:25 not symbols lol
    05:45 hobbit fondness
    06:00 childhood memory
    06:45 childhood memory
    07:40 Frodo
    08:40 against odds
    09:20 race
    10:20 Elves
    10:35 Dwarves
    10:47 Men
    10:55 Hobbits
    11:30 longer life
    11:59 love history
    12:15 naming system / language
    13:45 names
    14:30 names start with a name
    15:25 language influence
    16:35 women in LOTR
    17:25 reviewer lol
    18:05 from hobbit to LOTR
    19:10 dragons
    19:30 writing LOTR & The Ring
    20:01 Gollum
    20:22 grey character & temptation
    20:59 Sam and Gollum
    22:20 reader feedback
    22:45 take control
    23:15 writing
    24:33 maps
    24:42 moons
    25:05 started LOTR
    25:30 lots typing, error
    26:35 languages purpose
    28:06 any guilt
    28:47 allegory
    28:53 world declining
    30:03 god in LOTR
    30:10 goodness
    30:50 gods of men
    33:22 high towers
    34:11 Atlantis complex
    36:08 if were the Vala
    37:26 fan mails
    37:40 success
    38:06 theist
    39:02 to be remembered

  • @missanne2908
    @missanne2908 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    When the interviewer said that almost all the characters are portrayed as black or white, he seems to have forgotten Sam's musings in the chapter 'Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit':
    _He wondered what the man's name was and where he had come from; and if he was really evil at heart, or what lies and threats had led him on the long march from his home; and if he would not really rather have stayed there in peace--_

  • @superslayerguy
    @superslayerguy หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Saw the Jackson movies as a kid. I loved them, but never really cared to dive deep into Tolkien’s work until around a year ago. After about a year of just going further and further down the Tolkien rabbit hole (reading LOTR, The Silmarillion, letter 131), I’m still not done learning about this man and his works. He is THE GREATEST CREATIVE MIND OF ALL TIME in my opinion.

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Certainly the greatest single storyteller of the 20th Century. Maybe ever. Creating an entire mythology equivalent to the mythology of an entire civilization's mythology is something I don't think anyone else has ever done. The Arthurian romances, the Celtic, Norse, Greek, Indian, Persian, Levant, Chinese etc. myths and legends were the product of many minds over centuries and millennia, and he managed to equal them. Dude was unreal.

  • @poctordepper4269
    @poctordepper4269 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    14:36 "you wouldn't much like a chap called 'Ugluk' would you". I love it lmao.

  • @jakinboaz8558
    @jakinboaz8558 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I love how Tolkien just dodges the Tom Bombadil question...

  • @psychkosys
    @psychkosys ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is the first time I heard him speak. The man is just brilliant. Talking about the different races and each of their exaggerated human traits. "Well, you've got them on your hands, don't you?" I'm a writer, nothing like this man was, but what an inspiration on world and character building.

  • @saeedshahbazian9889
    @saeedshahbazian9889 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I wish he published silmarilion in his lifetime and we had interviews on it aswell. It must be fascinating to hear JRRT talk on elder days

    • @lnsullivan422
      @lnsullivan422 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He tried to, but nobody would publish it.

    • @clawsewitz4316
      @clawsewitz4316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was that oath that caused all the troubles

    • @johnnyw525
      @johnnyw525 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@lnsullivan422 No, he was endlessly tinkering until he died. That's why it was left to his son to hurriedly collate his notes into The Silmarillion... They were eager to publish it.

    • @Steve_the_Radroach
      @Steve_the_Radroach 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@johnnyw525 Well, he did admit in the foreword to LOTR that his friends all felt no-one would ever publish his account on the Elder Days

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For some unknown reason, Tolkien never hired an assistant to organize his papers and aid him in getting The Silmarillion ready for publication, which would have helped him a lot. He could certainly afford one for the last decade of his life, after LOTR blew up and the money came rolling in. He seemed to have been somewhat embarrassed by it all. Someone who could advise him to stop with the tinkering and that the 1967 version of Galadriel was probably the best lol. (It was the best, IMO.)
      Tolkien had no assistant when he wrote LOTR, except for his youngest daughter, who typed the drafts of it. All of his other children were grown. By the time of LOTR's publication, she was gone too. Christopher didn't take much of a role except for the maps, and didn't do much with The Silmarillion until after his father's passing.
      In terms of actual organization of his documents, Stephen King has one assistant. In the same vein, GRRM has two assistants. In all fairness, even the machine-man Brandon Sanderson has two assistants.

  • @dorkinabubble7772
    @dorkinabubble7772 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    When he starts dunking on Lewis 😂 I adore both writers and thinks their little squabbles with the others’ work is hilarious

  • @parkerbarkdull9733
    @parkerbarkdull9733 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Excited to see this. This channel is brilliant!

  • @Patdeamon
    @Patdeamon ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you! I had such a great time hearing this interview. More hidden gems like this! :)

  • @crazyperson1950
    @crazyperson1950 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Currently readin LOTR TheTwo Towers its so much detail it’s amazing

  • @shamsam4
    @shamsam4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you!

  • @LikeAnEpic
    @LikeAnEpic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this interviewever is a major fan of the lore

    • @hjr2000
      @hjr2000 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think he's confrontational and arrogant

  • @simonidastankovic2627
    @simonidastankovic2627 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BRILLIANT !!!

  • @jwallaby7895
    @jwallaby7895 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know of no other fictional writing that is universally explored in such a serious way. The maps myths and histories of Middle Earth are peered over as if they were a real place that ought to be explored on foot.
    Tolkien surprised the entire world with his creation. A narrative that is universally loved but not entirely full of worn out tropes or cliches. Some might suspect that there was some reason or agenda for an oxford historian/professor to create this world. Every reason he's given points toward his desire to just touch his readers with an effective story. He does not presume upon the beliefs or backgrounds of his audience. He informs his readers that there is much inspiration he's taken from English and European history to help flesh out this world modeled after our own familiar human myths and histories. Yet the story being told is universal. The human spirit....perhaps the spirit itself found in the lives of the Humans, the Elves, the Dwarves, the Hobbits, the Ents and the trees etc and how they weigh against a great threat to their collective existence. He fleshed out the complicated interwoven / interdependent dynamics that every race has on the world. I could go on....the story is best enjoyed by a fire or on long journeyed walk in the forest. Im just in awe of the monumental work that is the lord of the rings.

  • @ericcushing9936
    @ericcushing9936 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    How my God , the interviewer is so bullheaded in persisting to extract an answer that he clearly did not hear but wanted. Tolkien is so patient.

  • @JoshuaHeald
    @JoshuaHeald ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Today is September 2nd, 2023 and marks the 50th anniversary of the Professor's death. J.R.R. Tolkien's legacy endures today and for all time! Cheers to the Professor!

  • @voodoochild1975az
    @voodoochild1975az 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Tolkien's work is just a different level of fiction. The word 'genius' is so abused it's nearly lost it's meaning.... But I've no other word for this man. He was a genius.

  • @PalleRasmussen
    @PalleRasmussen ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I love this, this man, his thoughts and his world. And the interviewer does a better job then modern colleagues.

  • @mvwil
    @mvwil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    what an eloquent man

  • @ericsonofjohn9384
    @ericsonofjohn9384 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    26:01 - that “I havent noticed any” is so wholesome

  • @matthewgallant3622
    @matthewgallant3622 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What a brilliant man. I haven’t read LOTR but I did read The Hobbit as a child. I’m going to revisit this series and get a good dose of Tolkien.

  • @jacobseppala6142
    @jacobseppala6142 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    The rings of power series is a abomination. The professor must be rolling in his grave. They completely lost the geist of his work. They took middle earth and mutated it into something abhorrent. It's a crime against humanity. I don't think I will ever forgive the injustice.

  • @professorbrix
    @professorbrix ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you very much! Great work! ❤

  • @JingleJangleJam
    @JingleJangleJam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think Tolkien's theological thesis of good and evil as extrapolated through Christianity runs circles around C. S. Lewis'. It would have been fascinating for Tolkien to have written a book dedicated to his philosophy of Christianity, like Lewis did, I think his conception of ethics might have been quite different. Although he seemed shy and wanted to keep his conceptions to himself, preferring not to challenge or propose his own version of official Catholic dogma and to instead imply it through his art. When people reduce hobbits to being simple traditional Catholics, I think people miss the point of Tolkien's statement that as he says here, the good characters do more damage than the bad ones in the final outcome of the story - simple resistance and sacrifices of desires to temptation don't work out as they ought to. It might even be alluded to that in the end result, the one trait of Christ he says might be ascribed to Frodo, of enduring suffering, and bearing through persecution, may just as accurately, between the lines, be described as a trait of Gollum. Tolkien said Frodo does not embody all of the traits of Christ though, since for Christ it does not matter how much a person has sinner, the goodness of Christ is supposed to redeem the seemingly irredeemable who are in ''too sticky'' as he puts it a situation, a Christ figure in the stickiest situation redeems the sinner with no stickiness, and it would not have been able to alienated Gollum. And precisely that Frodo and Sam alienated Gollum while following what may seem as, the perfect Catholic dogmatic way of life at home, is where the paradox in Tolkien's religious impact his background had upon his books lies. C. S. Lewis, on the other hand, lazily just hands an allegorical Christ in the symbol of a silly talking Lion who has a perfect ethic of selflessness.
    It is tragic that with such a good character, the videogame of Gollum could not be more interesting.

    • @TalkingAboutTolkien
      @TalkingAboutTolkien  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In Letters 329, Tolkien also writes "I neither preach nor teach". This sums up a major aspect between himself and CS Lewis.

    • @leaftune4427
      @leaftune4427 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would've been interesting indeed.
      Oh just one point on Lewis' writing; he said didn't write Narnia as an allegory (it all started from pictures in his mind.) Rather he wrote Narnia (and space trilogy) as a supposal, a "what if God created other worlds, how would they differ, how would they play out, how would He interact with them?" Aslan isn't an allegory of Jesus but rather Lewis wrote of Aslan as if he was Jesus himself interacting with another world He created."

  • @rmd9746
    @rmd9746 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You're an excellent archiviste congratulations, your standard is so high that should be threated as a museum.

  • @squamish4244
    @squamish4244 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like his last comment. "I don't think I have much choice in the matter." Facts.

  • @simonidastankovic2627
    @simonidastankovic2627 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great ITW.... and what a great channel !

  • @seth111yta1
    @seth111yta1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    thank you

  • @marccrowell9598
    @marccrowell9598 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The Ents marching on Isengard is the my favorite scene of fiction in the last 200 years.

  • @DartagnanMagic
    @DartagnanMagic หลายเดือนก่อน

    Frodo had to fail otherwise the story wouldn't make sense.

  • @SAINTOBVIOUS
    @SAINTOBVIOUS 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He sounds exactly how I expected him too . 💙

  • @clawsewitz4316
    @clawsewitz4316 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally, someone besides myself drew comparison to Dwarves and Jews!

    • @Hero_Of_Old
      @Hero_Of_Old 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're not the only one lmao. Its pretty obvious with their semetic language

    • @thepuppethead1188
      @thepuppethead1188 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Hero_Of_Oldam I profoundly deaf or did Tolkien (oxford educated linguist) not say their language and naming is based on norse structure and customs,some names even coming from norse books?

    • @garfieldodie3106
      @garfieldodie3106 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He said both basically, some of the names were Norse, but he was really more saying that the traits (not physical traits) of the Dwarves were like the Jews. Likewise language has Semitic traits even though it was also inspired by the Norse.

    • @thepuppethead1188
      @thepuppethead1188 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@garfieldodie3106 fair enough yeh but I dunno if it's so obvious by "their semetic language". But I dunno my hang up comes from not hearing the phonetic similarities so much

    • @thepuppethead1188
      @thepuppethead1188 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tmarritt this explains perfectly why they're portrayed as repulsive and downright unlikable in all of his writing. I never did like the dwarfs...like c'mon wreckin' bilbo's house with merry feasting and song? Enticing him to leave the comfort and safety of his home to seek GOLD??? Sound like anyone??? Classic Dwarf.