Team link here. Please for the love of god, can you please start using 1 spin on every slot to start off link. This way if you get an op item you might choose your other items with that in mind. It's effective because you're going to use a spin on each slot anyways, so better to get a glimpse at what your working with before you decide what set up you're going for.
@@MrSoulXreaper They don't have restores to restore def so besides the KO potential of the AGS, BGS is going to be much more effective because if you don't get the KO, their def is going to likely be so low from BGS spec the dps will be through the roof.
I'm loving the rolls. You get the excitement of how many spins you'll have, then watching the strats/rng with spins and finally the fight. All very engaging.
In a pvp situation people usually bring a antifire pot and restores. Making dragonstonen bolts (e) and diamond bolts(e) useless and making opal bolts better in that situation. But link doesnt have pots so dragonstone bolts(e) are by far the best dps.
It's interesting how opal bolts are the best bolts in normal pvp but in something like this where they can't roll for pots, emerald or dragonstone bolts would be way better, yes they could roll a dfire shield or serp, but those are really quite rare and its an easy win if you get one of them and the other player doesnt have the specific item
You guys should really put dharock's greater axe in the spec weapon tab so you guys can make going full dharocks possible. I mean the axe is used most often as a spec-like weapon instead of a main hand....
Hate to say it but I don't think looking at the average loot number did anything but tilt you guys. With how variable the rewards are the only reason they're so high is definitely the high price ones changing the average just because they're so much higher.
Idea for a series - the Combat Achievement Series. Each player starts with a fresh account, that's been trained up to base 40s and has 100k coins. The aim of each episode is then to complete as many combat achievements as possible. For each achievement, you get points. Easy = 1 point Medium = 3 points Hard = 5 points Elite = 10 points Master = 20 points Grandmaster = 50 points The points then equate to randomiser spins at the end of each episode, 1 point = 10 spins, and you fight at the end of each episode (have to limit the randomiser to equipment the players can wield depending on their levels, so training has double benefits) After all of the episodes, you fight in the best gear you've obtained throughout the episodes for 1 point, the person with the most overall tasks completed gets 1 point and the person with the most points throughout the series gets 1 point (meaning it is out of 3 and you're guaranteed a winner).
It would be cool if you guys did this again, but we’re allowed to also include the loot from the clue scrolls into your final gear setup. (Aka if you pull a ranger hat, but spin a coif you can use the ranger hat in the fight)
you should do one where you roll your entire gear setup at once, and get a certain number of re rolls but you can't roll individual slots, you have to roll the whole setup if you want to re roll
Maybe in traditional pvp, which would i rather lower his defence by 30+ levels for the whole fight or have a weapon that can spec high twice in the whole fight?
@@LinksOcarina I get where you are coming from, you usually have long fights, but with an AGS you can easily smack 70s and get the KO quite easily, without much skill needed. It's all hindsight though, innit? You might have rolled straight into the BGS, just unlucky
Have you guys considered a hide and seek challenge where you try to find a 3rd account on the same world that you're both on? This account could have a random PvP item on it each location and first to find it gets the item. Great content as always, keep it up lads. X
Do you think you guys might ever Re-Do some of your old single episode pvp challenges like the one where u can go anywhere and do anything one u did against j1mmy and 9 rain or also just like some more 2v2 pvp challenges
It’s made pretty clear that links goal is to lower Rarghs defence with a spec weapon, which in an “outlast” fight like these, is infinitely better than a KO weapon like an AGS. This isn’t anything like regular PKing
Median coin value is probably better measurement than average reward for comparing if you're only opening 3 chests. (So dont get upset if you get under average, its more likely to happen). Enjoyed the video, keep it up!
Do you guys have a rule against using shield specs or something? Cuz I've seen multiple videos now where someone with dfs or dfw doesn't operate shield for the dragonfire ability.
Idk if you guys have done anything like this but. How about a challenge where you guys have set amount of combat levels, each time you kill a monster you subtract the combat level of the monster from the total pool until you have 0 levels left and you have to make the best setup possible out of the loot you get. For example if the pool was only 100 Rargh could go with a safe strat and kill 25 men and 25 goblins to get to 0 while link would wanna go with a bang and kill 1 river troll (level 49) and 1 experiment (level 51). Ofc in the actual video the combat level cap would be higher so that higher tier stuff could become available.
You should up the anti and randomize the inventory as well I'm sure a spinner out there exists...take it another step further and randomize the quick pray set up.
I love to see this it’s my favourite kind of angle episode content but everything you guys make is amazing thanks for making every day you upload better
something that could turn the random loot more varied and not using 100 rolls on one thing is first rolling for specific slots to roll, say you roll and you get 20 weapon rolls, or 15 ring rolls
NEW VIDEO IDEA: you guys should each have a number of points (maybe 300), and you can use these points to get gear. you have to walk around and look for people with gear on and you can use your points to use what they are wearing. for example - if you see a combat level 70 with a dragon scimitar, you can use 70 of your points to bring the dragon scimi to the fight. you should also make a limitation that you can only take one piece of gear from any given world just so that you cant stay in world 302 where there are a ton of people. the catch is if you want to use high level gear, you will be spending more points since you will probably need to find someone with a higher combat level. also to make it more interesting you can make the weapon slot cost double the person's combat level - so a level 70 with a dragon scimi will cost 140 points
Would it be better to not pray flick for max damage when rargh vengeances? Cause your max hit would be lower and damage taken would be lower as well. Am I being stupid? Genuinely interested in what you guys think. Much love and appreciation for the hard work you guys put into these videos, they make my Thursday special :)
Opal Bolts (e) might typically be more effective in PvP, but that’s only because most pkers run Super Antifire Pots; And So in this scenerio they were not better and actually much worse considering the +9-10 Max Hit and rolling against mage defense versus melee.
DWH is only situationally better a good bit of the time, if you want hit to land CONSISTENT go BGS, you want big high risk high reward hit then go DWH, BGS accuracy superior.
I don't think average loot is a good way to look at these clue scroll challenges. Think of it like this: if you open 1,000 clues, 990 are worth around 8k each, 9 are 3 million, and one is 25 million. The average would be ~59k. But if you open one clue, you should not expect to get 59k. You should expect the median reward which is ~8k. This helps with some game theory
Randomizer could work for me if the episode content was some kind of tasks. Like Link and Rargh have 2 hours to do as many tasks as they can, harder stuff (get a boss unique, do a fire cape) would grant more rolls on randomizer and easier stuff (bake a cake inside lumbridge, do a easy clue scroll) would grant less. Make more tasks than anyone could do within the selected timeframe, so there would be desicion making in what tasks to pick. Current randomizer challenges would be as exciting if the episode gimmick was "we roll 6 dice to see how many spins we get on the randomizer" and that's my problem, never go double rng.
I'd like to see pots possibly being rolled? Maybe 5 rolls each, someone could grab brews, but not restores and get brewed down because they couldn't roll a restore on their last few chances?
Bgs or dwh? No restores to get defence up, unlike in a normal pvp scenario. Would have been an overwhelming win for Rargh if he hit atleast 1 of those specs with dwh.
It should be a rule that you have to use all your spins. Say you have 100 spins left, but you like your gear. You have to use the spins, and decide what slot you wanna risk getting a worse item for
Ever since the beginning of these PvP challenges, I’ve wanted a true friend to do stuff like this with. Wish my brother and I had done this kinda while he was still alive. Love the vids dudes.
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Imagine having 690 spins and not walking in with full Justi and an Ely.
And imagine wasting hundreds of spins on a spec weapon instead.
Team link here. Please for the love of god, can you please start using 1 spin on every slot to start off link. This way if you get an op item you might choose your other items with that in mind. It's effective because you're going to use a spin on each slot anyways, so better to get a glimpse at what your working with before you decide what set up you're going for.
Isn't the charm of these two that they make the worst decisions all the time?
What's the point coming to a Link and Rargh video if you don't want a reason to facepalm?
I’m new to these videos but this is the comment I’ve 100% agreed with. I’m surprised they both don’t do this
Imagine rerolling an ags in a pvp challenge
I legit have no Idea where they think a bgs or DWH is better for pking than a AGS or Claws lol... I cringe every time they say that
@@pallettown3358 No restores, so they are 100% better in these fights... Still wouldn't have skipped the ags myself though.
@@SpaceAhijo Ags with veng can come KO in any moment of the fight especially without combo food
@@MrSoulXreaper I said in these fights though. Meaning, with the skills of Link and Rargh :peek:
@@MrSoulXreaper They don't have restores to restore def so besides the KO potential of the AGS, BGS is going to be much more effective because if you don't get the KO, their def is going to likely be so low from BGS spec the dps will be through the roof.
Every TWF PVP Challenge:
Rargh: "I want range and magic defense, I have a feeling he's going mage."
Link: "MELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
I'm loving the rolls. You get the excitement of how many spins you'll have, then watching the strats/rng with spins and finally the fight. All very engaging.
In a pvp situation people usually bring a antifire pot and restores. Making dragonstonen bolts (e) and diamond bolts(e) useless and making opal bolts better in that situation. But link doesnt have pots so dragonstone bolts(e) are by far the best dps.
He also forgot about the changes to the acb special making it likely to proc bolt specs
Why would any of those pots make any difference for diamond bolts(e)?
Jon is saying that Dragonstone would’ve been better than the Opal* bolts Kins went with, at least could have been
@@omnimble4357 he thinks it reduces defence and he’s wrong
@@omnimble4357 because the antifire pot would protect from the dragonstone bolt proc
Rargh taking his boots off before opening the medium caskets is just precious.
It's interesting how opal bolts are the best bolts in normal pvp but in something like this where they can't roll for pots, emerald or dragonstone bolts would be way better, yes they could roll a dfire shield or serp, but those are really quite rare and its an easy win if you get one of them and the other player doesnt have the specific item
Onyx for heals too
The speed at which Rargh clicks through items is legitimately triggering me... 🤣
4:45
Amazingly, this is the first time I've ever seen a clue scroll casket on the ground.
Thanks for that little gem, Rargh.
You guys should really put dharock's greater axe in the spec weapon tab so you guys can make going full dharocks possible. I mean the axe is used most often as a spec-like weapon instead of a main hand....
I don't think they have access to the back end of the randomizer, and only weapons with actual specs can appear in the spec weapon slot.
@@jacobcapra09 the randomizer was especially made for them, so they could easily change it
@@jacobcapra09 Robyn made it so you would have to ask them how they coded it
I want to see more videos where you're getting 100s of spins on the randomiser tbh, it's pretty cool!
Hate to say it but I don't think looking at the average loot number did anything but tilt you guys.
With how variable the rewards are the only reason they're so high is definitely the high price ones changing the average just because they're so much higher.
They're better off looking at the median price range.
Rargh didn’t know about the d hide update
Idea for a series - the Combat Achievement Series.
Each player starts with a fresh account, that's been trained up to base 40s and has 100k coins.
The aim of each episode is then to complete as many combat achievements as possible. For each achievement, you get points.
Easy = 1 point
Medium = 3 points
Hard = 5 points
Elite = 10 points
Master = 20 points
Grandmaster = 50 points
The points then equate to randomiser spins at the end of each episode, 1 point = 10 spins, and you fight at the end of each episode (have to limit the randomiser to equipment the players can wield depending on their levels, so training has double benefits)
After all of the episodes, you fight in the best gear you've obtained throughout the episodes for 1 point, the person with the most overall tasks completed gets 1 point and the person with the most points throughout the series gets 1 point (meaning it is out of 3 and you're guaranteed a winner).
I love your clue scroll fights
I love your randomiser fights
What a combo
It would be cool if you guys did this again, but we’re allowed to also include the loot from the clue scrolls into your final gear setup. (Aka if you pull a ranger hat, but spin a coif you can use the ranger hat in the fight)
you should do one where you roll your entire gear setup at once, and get a certain number of re rolls but you can't roll individual slots, you have to roll the whole setup if you want to re roll
*one of the best spec weapons in the entire game on his first roll*
"We can do better..."
Maybe in traditional pvp, which would i rather lower his defence by 30+ levels for the whole fight or have a weapon that can spec high twice in the whole fight?
@@LinksOcarina I get where you are coming from, you usually have long fights, but with an AGS you can easily smack 70s and get the KO quite easily, without much skill needed. It's all hindsight though, innit? You might have rolled straight into the BGS, just unlucky
Have you guys considered a hide and seek challenge where you try to find a 3rd account on the same world that you're both on? This account could have a random PvP item on it each location and first to find it gets the item. Great content as always, keep it up lads. X
Remember season 1 when rargh always went melee? Now thats link.
Always love the randomizer vids wish they were all together in a playlist on ur channel
Do you think you guys might ever Re-Do some of your old single episode pvp challenges like the one where u can go anywhere and do anything one u did against j1mmy and 9 rain or also just like some more 2v2 pvp challenges
Possibly bud :)
I wish that harm staff saw some light there it could have been huge :D
Link mate. Why did you pass up the AGS as a spec wep? One of the most powerful spec weps in game
It’s made pretty clear that links goal is to lower Rarghs defence with a spec weapon, which in an “outlast” fight like these, is infinitely better than a KO weapon like an AGS. This isn’t anything like regular PKing
@@athaniele14 if your opponent is 50 hp and you spec a 66… even if their invy is full of food, what happens?
Median coin value is probably better measurement than average reward for comparing if you're only opening 3 chests. (So dont get upset if you get under average, its more likely to happen). Enjoyed the video, keep it up!
what happened at 16:11 the first roll was a tbow then it jumped up to 4 spins and it was the staff???
Randomized gear is my favorite thing the two of you do. It’s like gambling. It’s always exciting
These are my favorite videos that you make. The clue scrolls.
saw arma crossbow, knew it was an insta loss. Hard being team rargh
Staff of light is so under rated
It's a whip with a strong spec
Imagine having 690 spins and not going magic when melee is the gear setup more often than not through almost all challanges.
What program are they using as the randomizer? where can i find it?
Do you guys have a rule against using shield specs or something? Cuz I've seen multiple videos now where someone with dfs or dfw doesn't operate shield for the dragonfire ability.
Idk if you guys have done anything like this but. How about a challenge where you guys have set amount of combat levels, each time you kill a monster you subtract the combat level of the monster from the total pool until you have 0 levels left and you have to make the best setup possible out of the loot you get.
For example if the pool was only 100 Rargh could go with a safe strat and kill 25 men and 25 goblins to get to 0 while link would wanna go with a bang and kill 1 river troll (level 49) and 1 experiment (level 51). Ofc in the actual video the combat level cap would be higher so that higher tier stuff could become available.
how do you roll gear like what website would love to try this with a friend?
randomizer makes every video a banger!
You should up the anti and randomize the inventory as well I'm sure a spinner out there exists...take it another step further and randomize the quick pray set up.
Challenge idea?
Both get 1-2 hours of tutoring from a Pk'er and then u try to NH or fight with some other setup?
I love to see this it’s my favourite kind of angle episode content but everything you guys make is amazing thanks for making every day you upload better
Keep up the new ideas they're all tight ❤
Think you had bit to many spins which made it to easy to get good gear. would love to see this again but like 10k=1 spin
I knew Rargh lost the moment he passed up the Harm. Tragic.
Well, you have more information than him. You knew Link was going melee.
@@mothgru that is indeed the point, yes.
Do loot from Konar/Steve/Duradel next. Love these randomizer fights
Content is still rocking, thank you both!
something that could turn the random loot more varied and not using 100 rolls on one thing is first rolling for specific slots to roll, say you roll and you get 20 weapon rolls, or 15 ring rolls
NEW VIDEO IDEA: you guys should each have a number of points (maybe 300), and you can use these points to get gear. you have to walk around and look for people with gear on and you can use your points to use what they are wearing. for example - if you see a combat level 70 with a dragon scimitar, you can use 70 of your points to bring the dragon scimi to the fight. you should also make a limitation that you can only take one piece of gear from any given world just so that you cant stay in world 302 where there are a ton of people. the catch is if you want to use high level gear, you will be spending more points since you will probably need to find someone with a higher combat level. also to make it more interesting you can make the weapon slot cost double the person's combat level - so a level 70 with a dragon scimi will cost 140 points
and to spice things up, you're on a timer to get all of your gear pieces together, and if you want you can ban popular places like the GE
is there a link to where i can use the randomizer myself?
Would it be better to not pray flick for max damage when rargh vengeances? Cause your max hit would be lower and damage taken would be lower as well. Am I being stupid? Genuinely interested in what you guys think. Much love and appreciation for the hard work you guys put into these videos, they make my Thursday special :)
what website are they using for randomizer?
Quick tip, DFS spec
Opal Bolts (e) might typically be more effective in PvP, but that’s only because most pkers run Super Antifire Pots; And So in this scenerio they were not better and actually much worse considering the +9-10 Max Hit and rolling against mage defense versus melee.
You guys should do the same challenge but its three rounds so you have to divide the spins on all the fights
"I'm sorry, this is hideous" made me laugh way harder than I should have
9:35 man has been sitting there waiting for someone to bring him toilet paper for years.
18:18 u skip a ring and it was the suffering xD wp Link
randomizer lagged XD
How did you see that?? I slowed it down to .25x and it was only there for a split second
Watch if then a few seconds earlier and repead it. I saw it instantly in normal speed 😅
I like how both of you are tempted for a second to go full dharok
A small tip: You can drop your food to make space for 2h spec weapons.
We don't allow it
@@LinksOcarina Gotcha, now I know.
Can you link the episode where rargh got rangers?
Rargh with that anxiety clocking
Surely opal aren't best if there's no antifire pots?
It'd be cool if there were less spins to make it more competitive, 100 spins pretty much gave you top tier items
690 spins and goes in with normal black dhide body
Just throwing it out there i use Opera and its dope af. You can make it purple and to be honest that's an immediate win for me.
Isn’t spirit shield worse than a rune kite? Why wouldn’t you reroll that for something better?
Wish you would've tried for Dharok's. Would have been pretty interesting even if you lost, but you probably made the smart play
crossbow rolls give a range pot as well?
lmfaoooooooo. rolls an AGS... "not good enough we can do better"
Just rewatching and commenting. Bring this back. Do anything you want but I love this random gear roll.
Keep it up fellas. Always keeping it fresh with the ideas.
DWH is only situationally better a good bit of the time, if you want hit to land CONSISTENT go BGS, you want big high risk high reward hit then go DWH, BGS accuracy superior.
Quick tip , if you flick between rigour and piety allowing time between fighting each other rigour has a higher defence bonus 👍
Both 25% defence bud?
I don't think average loot is a good way to look at these clue scroll challenges. Think of it like this: if you open 1,000 clues, 990 are worth around 8k each, 9 are 3 million, and one is 25 million. The average would be ~59k. But if you open one clue, you should not expect to get 59k. You should expect the median reward which is ~8k.
This helps with some game theory
Needed some good news. Thanks for the upload.
I like all pvp challenges, but pure rng based challenges ( no skill just rng)must be my least favorites)
I honestly just really dislike the randomizer.
I get others like it so it's whatever, but I personally groan whenever I see it.
Randomizer could work for me if the episode content was some kind of tasks. Like Link and Rargh have 2 hours to do as many tasks as they can, harder stuff (get a boss unique, do a fire cape) would grant more rolls on randomizer and easier stuff (bake a cake inside lumbridge, do a easy clue scroll) would grant less. Make more tasks than anyone could do within the selected timeframe, so there would be desicion making in what tasks to pick.
Current randomizer challenges would be as exciting if the episode gimmick was "we roll 6 dice to see how many spins we get on the randomizer" and that's my problem, never go double rng.
@@Pakkeh couldn’t agree more 😴
Who are the people disliking these videos! Like did they get here and think oh a pvp OSRS video wth? 😂😂 great vids guys keep it up.
Would love to see a video where you don’t have many spins and have too swap a random item with each other to mix things up
Will Rargh release a video on Tuesdays as well? or just this channel?
I'm curious as to what the randomizer is.
Looks quite nice.
Would like to see mage or more unconventional setups rather than range tank and melee every time.
Should put a potions spot on there to try and spin for boosting potions but have all pots on it 1 to 4 dose and even unfinished:)
I'd like to see pots possibly being rolled? Maybe 5 rolls each, someone could grab brews, but not restores and get brewed down because they couldn't roll a restore on their last few chances?
Now I want to know what kind of better spec weapons he went for if he skipped ags???
Bgs or dwh? No restores to get defence up, unlike in a normal pvp scenario. Would have been an overwhelming win for Rargh if he hit atleast 1 of those specs with dwh.
You guys ever do one of these only using the loot from the scrolls?
It should be a rule that you have to use all your spins. Say you have 100 spins left, but you like your gear. You have to use the spins, and decide what slot you wanna risk getting a worse item for
Every time youtube brings me back to this video I'm disappointed all over again in Rargh's use of that many spins
You both passing an ags and then sgs was not very high iq
link opens casket 2 after seeing rarghs and i lost my biscuits!!! what a mad lad innit yea
Link, there aren't too many opportunities to go Dharoks in these competitions
You missed your chance to clutch
the reroll to try for dhide hurt me so much, WHY? karils has the same bonuses + higher defense??? also not rerolling the prayer cape why????
No way you both upload on the same day
Link: *gets 7k from clue scroll* "that's pretty bad but we'll take it"
Rargh: *gets 93k from clue scroll* "oh my god that is the most shit thing"
I don't think these guys understand average vs. median
it would be cool to have a pot or food slot on the randomizer
Ever since the beginning of these PvP challenges, I’ve wanted a true friend to do stuff like this with. Wish my brother and I had done this kinda while he was still alive. Love the vids dudes.
Why skip the sgs? God spec wep plus it restores so much.
Why did Rargh reroll the Karils for black d hide?
AN UNDERDOG STORY FOR THE AGES
These guys remind me of Runeshark from back in the days, if you know, you know...