I'm pretty much in agreement. It's a fine line between printing enough to satisfy demand and not printing too much but I think Erik is walking that line well. Pure speculation here but I think, after AL releases, there will be some sort of "Revised" version of a base set with a much larger print run. Maybe with a few cards added/removed for better game balance...and I think that core set is what will stay in print. A model much like Magic did in the early days. I think that would satisfy everyone.
Great comment, and thanks for watching the video. I was only involved with MTG from Revised through Ice Age or so, but I do remember 4th Edition coming out, and at least among all the people I played and collected with, it was a welcome printing. There are just so many great cards in SCR Alpha/Beta, it would be a shame to have them become obsolete so soon when the game is still at its infancy. In agreement with you, I feel Erik's Curiosa is handling things quite well now, and they clearly are keeping a very close eye on all of the stakeholders involved with Sorcery. Excited about the future of all this! :)
They need to do two things simultaneously: have product available for new players readily available so they don't lose players just because they couldn't get ahold of cards to play with while controlling print runs and the collectible market. The only way to do that is to create a new product of staples and to end the Beta printing (it would help to remove certain cards from that printing). The sooner they do that the healthier the game will be in the long run. The catch-22 thing is that making the cards more desirable and collectible will spurn interest in the game and increase the player base, but only if there is product for them to play with. The less collectible the cards are the less people will be interested in picking it up.
I really enjoyed the video. I think there are a lot of important pros/cons, that need to be considered. Beta was printed with the first printing that released fall/winter 2023 where certain areas did not get enough product. Probably due to a mix of distros under ordering, and the team underestimating the demand. The second print (Summer Beta/Wave 2) came to Asia around April 2024, and just got restocked in the US, and here in Europe it should arrive November 2024. After this, I think they need to like the dust settle and observe the situation. My personal preference would be no more Beta, but a Revised edition product reprinting vital cards with new art in a few years. However, I think they should reprint Beta precons for site availability and having a good option for new players getting into the I really enjoyed the video. I think there are a lot of important pros/cons, that need to be considered. Beta was printed with the first printing that released fall/winter 2023 where certain areas did not get enough product. Probably due to a mix of distros under ordering, and the team underestimating the demand. The second print (Summer Beta/Wave 2) came to Asia around April 2024, and just got restocked in the US, and here in Europe it should arrive November 2024. After this, I think they need to like the dust settle and observe the situation. My personal preference would be no more Beta, but a Revised edition product reprinting vital cards from a couple of sets with new art in a few years. However, I think they should reprint Beta precons for site availability and having a good option for new players getting into the game.
Thanks!! With content like the Cardboard Guide channel supporting Sorcery, growth & success of this game is almost guaranteed. 😀 Still impressed by your AL card reveal. :)
I'd like to see Beta reprinted enough to keep incoming new players from Arthurian Legends satisfied and not struggling to build a NF set. EC also should be mindful to not overprint, especially if something akin to a Revised Edition is in their sights.
Hey I enjoyed your video and subbed! Just started a new channel and getting ready to get into Arthurian Legends. Can't wait to open some boxes and start collecting some beta now that there's been some reprints. Looking forward to learning more. Thanks for the video!
Feels strange discussing whether to reprint when most of the world haven't even seen any product. If there is a reprint then maybe I get to open my first booster pack
I agree. Decided to make this video because the discussion of this topic is almost constant around the web. The purpose was to outline some of the business considerations that surround the reprint decision... but it applies to most other products as well. Glad to see all of the good comments here, and I do hope that you get to open your first booster pack soon! :)
Thanks for asking! Those are two of the posters that were included with the Beta Store Kits. I picked them up second hand on ebay, and put them into some basic frames from Michaels. :)
That's a generous offer! :) If anyone comments here, I'll send you a msg on the Discord. Could likely fulfill those needs myself, have a good bit of spare Ordinary & Exceptional cards myself. Cheers!
No. They should make a core set. They could add some new cards in the core set that is not in the Alpha or Beta so that we collectors will buy the core set.
There are many reasons I hope that EC remains a private company indefinitely. As a small private company, they maintain maximum control over almost all aspects of their product and brand. I think this is the best way for them to make sure the founders' vision reaches the customer uninfluenced by outside influence or control. Except for input from the game's community and customers, of course. :)
I'm pretty much in agreement. It's a fine line between printing enough to satisfy demand and not printing too much but I think Erik is walking that line well. Pure speculation here but I think, after AL releases, there will be some sort of "Revised" version of a base set with a much larger print run. Maybe with a few cards added/removed for better game balance...and I think that core set is what will stay in print. A model much like Magic did in the early days. I think that would satisfy everyone.
Great comment, and thanks for watching the video. I was only involved with MTG from Revised through Ice Age or so, but I do remember 4th Edition coming out, and at least among all the people I played and collected with, it was a welcome printing. There are just so many great cards in SCR Alpha/Beta, it would be a shame to have them become obsolete so soon when the game is still at its infancy. In agreement with you, I feel Erik's Curiosa is handling things quite well now, and they clearly are keeping a very close eye on all of the stakeholders involved with Sorcery. Excited about the future of all this! :)
They need to do two things simultaneously: have product available for new players readily available so they don't lose players just because they couldn't get ahold of cards to play with while controlling print runs and the collectible market. The only way to do that is to create a new product of staples and to end the Beta printing (it would help to remove certain cards from that printing). The sooner they do that the healthier the game will be in the long run. The catch-22 thing is that making the cards more desirable and collectible will spurn interest in the game and increase the player base, but only if there is product for them to play with. The less collectible the cards are the less people will be interested in picking it up.
Yes, very tricky to strike the right balance between player (new and existing) needs and attracting & holding collectors' interest.
I really enjoyed the video. I think there are a lot of important pros/cons, that need to be considered.
Beta was printed with the first printing that released fall/winter 2023 where certain areas did not get enough product.
Probably due to a mix of distros under ordering, and the team underestimating the demand.
The second print (Summer Beta/Wave 2) came to Asia around April 2024, and just got restocked in the US, and here in Europe it should arrive November 2024.
After this, I think they need to like the dust settle and observe the situation.
My personal preference would be no more Beta, but a Revised edition product reprinting vital cards with new art in a few years.
However, I think they should reprint Beta precons for site availability and having a good option for new players getting into the I really enjoyed the video. I think there are a lot of important pros/cons, that need to be considered.
Beta was printed with the first printing that released fall/winter 2023 where certain areas did not get enough product.
Probably due to a mix of distros under ordering, and the team underestimating the demand.
The second print (Summer Beta/Wave 2) came to Asia around April 2024, and just got restocked in the US, and here in Europe it should arrive November 2024.
After this, I think they need to like the dust settle and observe the situation.
My personal preference would be no more Beta, but a Revised edition product reprinting vital cards from a couple of sets with new art in a few years.
However, I think they should reprint Beta precons for site availability and having a good option for new players getting into the game.
Thanks!! With content like the Cardboard Guide channel supporting Sorcery, growth & success of this game is almost guaranteed. 😀 Still impressed by your AL card reveal. :)
@@TheContestedReality Thank you so much! 🙏🏻
I'd like to see Beta reprinted enough to keep incoming new players from Arthurian Legends satisfied and not struggling to build a NF set. EC also should be mindful to not overprint, especially if something akin to a Revised Edition is in their sights.
Agreed! This sounds like a well balanced approach to the challenge.
i think they don’t need to because they can make a revised edition down the line
That's seems to be a common idea, and a good one. Follows the trajectory that early TCGs did.
Hey I enjoyed your video and subbed! Just started a new channel and getting ready to get into Arthurian Legends. Can't wait to open some boxes and start collecting some beta now that there's been some reprints. Looking forward to learning more. Thanks for the video!
Thanks! You have a new subscriber. 😀
Feels strange discussing whether to reprint when most of the world haven't even seen any product. If there is a reprint then maybe I get to open my first booster pack
@@Austin-sv9nm world-wide with low shipping cost?
I agree. Decided to make this video because the discussion of this topic is almost constant around the web. The purpose was to outline some of the business considerations that surround the reprint decision... but it applies to most other products as well. Glad to see all of the good comments here, and I do hope that you get to open your first booster pack soon! :)
Are those mouse mats with stone prints? If so, where would I buy them! :)
They are available at Melissa Benson's website. :)
Where did you get the 2 prints on your wall?
Thanks for asking! Those are two of the posters that were included with the Beta Store Kits. I picked them up second hand on ebay, and put them into some basic frames from Michaels. :)
Revised with other Art or wothout Foils!
@@Dexstar9 other art on some cards would be cool. like the cores, and mixes
That would be a fun project for the artists.. and to collect! :)
@@TheContestedReality and it would save the value of Alpha/Beta
fuck no. Anyone in the states who needs an ordinary or exceptional playset hit me up.
That's a generous offer! :) If anyone comments here, I'll send you a msg on the Discord. Could likely fulfill those needs myself, have a good bit of spare Ordinary & Exceptional cards myself. Cheers!
For Europe
Definitely seems like Europe is ready to get some product there!
No. They should make a core set. They could add some new cards in the core set that is not in the Alpha or Beta so that we collectors will buy the core set.
Solid idea!
Don’t ever go public. Once you go public you go wokeshit
There are many reasons I hope that EC remains a private company indefinitely. As a small private company, they maintain maximum control over almost all aspects of their product and brand. I think this is the best way for them to make sure the founders' vision reaches the customer uninfluenced by outside influence or control. Except for input from the game's community and customers, of course. :)
@@TheContestedReality hope so too. Never go public