It's why he was knighted by the Queen and was made a Sir (it was rescinded because of his views on jews) but I can't think of another artist who took a genre in garage and morphed it into a completely new genre that took the country and parts of the world by storm, if it wasn't for Wiley we probably wouldn't have ever had grime.
This guy is inaccurate Wiley was spitting on jungle before garage at least back as far as 1998, he created Eskimo in 2002 I think it released in 2003 and is credited widely as being the first grime song. Although garage music was already transitioning to a darker grimier sound. Eskimo was just the blueprint for what a grime song is really. He is still the godfather of grime don’t get it twisted tho. And it wasn’t because of dizzee that he had his career.
A huge part of grime culture is clashing (battling other rappers) We used to have a thing over here called Lord of the Mics where battles really grew the scene. Kano vs Wiley etc
Wiley bought dozens of others through too. He created the genre and created many of the big names we see today it's more than likely that if Wiley never was then grime would never have been. The man was knighted to a sir by the Queen he was Sir Richard until he got that honor rescinded because of his views on certain things.
@@JJ-pl5cj love Wiley but I agree, don't check them out because it doesn't even really add context to the beef... He has plenty other tunes to check out Westwood freestyle being one of them
Wiley is the grime war original bossman. On a side tip, check out the war report by Logan Sama. Was a pirate radio slot where Logan reviewed all the war dubs dropped 🔥🔥🔥 Grime history Chambers there 👊
3:47 the 'Rolex' and 'Heatwave' bars are also titles of Wileys tracks that were top of the charts so he's also saying he's been there done that. One his big issues with Stormzy is that he went pop, something Wiley did and so he says he's trying to get Stormzy to not fall for the labels and public pushing the numbers game but keep it real like he wishes he did.... Of course many think he saying this jealous of Stormzy kicking on and Wiley never.
Wiley brought Chip in when he was 16. They always have respect for each other. It's ironic that Chip bodied Stormzy in their beef . Chip had a bar way back that said he'd murder an mc for Wiley and he definitely did😂
@@sambor it's not debatable at all. Stormzy sent some sly disses back on features... Weren't even a clash really cuz he was too scared to go direct with it.
Good reaction. Wiley 6 in tha morning. Wiley 30 minute freestyle. Also listen to Devlins diss against wiley when he was just 17 her verbally destroyed wiley
To understand more what Wiley did for the grime scene listen closely to Kano's made in the Manor! Kano said 'Wiley was our Quincy (Jones) and Michael was Dylan (Dizzee)" Or Kane said " If you tell a kid he wont be shit then he wont be shit! But ill tell a kid like Wiley told me you will make P's kid"
Just leave it here, couple #grime tracks for you guys. Appreciate your videos🖖 Wiley - Can't Take it Wiley - Therapy Battling Lethal Bizzle - Dapper Dan Manga Saint Hillare - Man Know D Power Diesle - Goodies Capo Lee - Baitest Sound Frisco - Go Thru Face
If you really wanna check Wiley check his freestyles or early tracks as far as beef goes do his back and forth with durrty goodz or the movement much better 👌🏻👌🏻
With that i mean first Eediyat Skengman 1 as you did here, then Disappointed by stormzy, then Eediyat Skengman 2 and then Still disappointed by Stormzy. Then you get the full picture of this to round disstrack beef. Forget about the "Wiley flow", thats a homage to Wiley.
The best is yet to come from Stormzy. Oh it's brutal. At the end of it all, You actually feel sorry for Wiley. He gets ruined. You have both seen Mel Made me do it. Who do you think he was talking too on that looool. But Still disappointed was the last of the official battle and that's where Stormzy destroys him. It's true that Stormzy does make music for the radio but he still makes music for the underground too. After this, I mentioned it before. Vossi Bop. Yes it's commercial but it was a global hit and it's still my favourite Stormzy track. I'm very confident you would love it.
Comes up a few times, but he mentions Ed (Sheeran). Ed and Stormzy making tracks together annoyed Wiley as Ed is one of the biggest pop stars and he felt he was just 'using' the genre for more views/likes (and other artists like him). A bit crappy really as Ed came up with Devlin and featured with a lot of grime acts and even had a track with Wiley before!
Stormzy a nugget using OG flows with his label to cash in on their shit and making out his ‘paying homage’ If it’s real homage offer them the fucking money for the flow you bitten you leech or ask them to be on the track. Wiley created grime. Wiley wins by default from a culture and morality standpoint. Stormzy cashed in. Depends it’s what you see as winning. Having money and sacrificing your honour or being a man of honour with less money.
Waddup Buzz Fam! MABU just dropped his album, like 8 new songs! I would love to see y’all react to them! Here are my favorites in case y’all wanna check them out! - “EVIL EMPIRE” Ft. DD Osama - “UNDERDOG SONG” Ft. Lil Baby - “OPPY DAY” (Hilarious)🔥 and “PLEDGE”.
Comments here are mad. Wiley flow was not a dis it was homage. This is came from Stormzy backing Ed Sheeran over the culture vulture comment. This is the start, Then disappointed, Then eediyat skengman pt 2 Then still disappointed, Then eediyat skengman pt 3 which Stormzy did not reply to because he absolutely destroyed him in still disappointed
Definitely checkout the Wicked Skengman Series of freestyles that Stormzy did. some classic stuff and a lot of legends in the background of those videos inc Big Shaq, Frisco and many Grime legends. still good today even if your not a stormzy fan 3 and 4 my personal favs
Most youngers thinks stormzy won the clash but from a grime music standpoint I think Wiley smoked him and showed the real essence of the culture he created
*Dot Rotten* aka *Zeph Elllis* started all this, sending for countless rappers. He destroyed countless rappers with daily videos... But once *Wiley* decided to delete his 2 videos to *Dot,* and... Only a few big names replied after a few months... *Dot* decided to delete all his sends, replies, and videos from his 2 new albums from his TH-cam channel.
Also let’s face it Wiley knew what he was doing, even when he did the Zeze interview he aimed at Stormzy because it would make him relevant again. And Stormzy backing Ed Sheeran over the culture vulture comment
Stormzy didn't start it, Wiley Flow was a homage but Wiley wasn't selling records like he used to. He wound up Stormz about the single with Ed Sheeran he did after Wiley Flow, they got into a back and forth, then Wiley started it with Ediyat Skengman
I thought it was a homage track at first but making that track after he called everyone his youngers then immediately starting the track talking bout numbers when Wiley wasn't getting any definitely felt like he was taking shots
Wiley ft Devlin - holy grime that you guys reacted to is the same beat as this, love stormz but Wiley is the godfather of grime a real og over there in the UK pretty much how fraksha is for us in AUS🦘
The song Wiley flow wasn’t even a diss track it had a few shots. This song is called ediayat skengman because Stormzy used the call himself the wicked skeng man Wiley is one of the original grime scene members. Many people call him the Godfather of Grime. He didn’t like Stormzy calling himself the king of Grime as Stormzy is new in the game in camparison to Wiley, Dizzee Rascal, Kano, ghetts etc. Stormzy is undoubtedly more successful than Wiley and Wiley is like the bitter old gen guy. Without a doubt though Wiley is an OG in the UK
@@charliecosta3971 he is getting older. Doesn’t change the fact he was one of the founders of Grime and one of the most successful rappers of the time (back then)
@@ThatWuzSetup back then!!! Stormzy took it to a level beyond anything Wiley could ever achieve. That's the point. It's comparing Henry Ford to Ferruiccio Lamborghini. Time moves on. Just because Wiley was the original it doesn't mean he can't be surpassed.
@@charliecosta3971 reread my original comment you muppet. I said stormy is way more successful and Wiley is like the bitter older gen guy. I have way more stormzy on my phone than Wiley. I was just explaining it to the guys
@@davidmclaren9027 yeah for me this is devlin at his absolute best. Wouldn’t mind seeing them react to the movement under 18s set as well for the same reasons 😂
Just so you are aware, "Wiley Flow" was not a diss by Stormzy, he was paying homage. However, Wiley didn't care for people talking about him whether it be good or bad (More than likely saw a chance to make his name relevant again), As Wiley was one of the biggest, -if not- THE biggest UK Grime Artist at one point, he went mainstream with songs like "Ayayaya", "Wearing my Rolex" and "Heatwave" which he mentions in this track. It gets much more personal for both men after the next tracks.
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Wiley practically created grime, he was originally a garage mc but him with help from dizzee pretty much created the whole genre of Grime in 2000
Someone who finally knows what there talking about 👌
It's why he was knighted by the Queen and was made a Sir (it was rescinded because of his views on jews) but I can't think of another artist who took a genre in garage and morphed it into a completely new genre that took the country and parts of the world by storm, if it wasn't for Wiley we probably wouldn't have ever had grime.
@@bestofgrime7723 he wasn't knighted and made a sir 😂😂 he was awarded an MBE for his dedication to music 😂
This guy is inaccurate Wiley was spitting on jungle before garage at least back as far as 1998, he created Eskimo in 2002 I think it released in 2003 and is credited widely as being the first grime song. Although garage music was already transitioning to a darker grimier sound. Eskimo was just the blueprint for what a grime song is really. He is still the godfather of grime don’t get it twisted tho. And it wasn’t because of dizzee that he had his career.
A huge part of grime culture is clashing (battling other rappers)
We used to have a thing over here called Lord of the Mics where battles really grew the scene.
Kano vs Wiley etc
Wiley brought Chip in. Wiley brought a young Chip on Westwood to introduce him. Look up that Westwood 🔥🔥🔥
Badboy freestyle that
Legendary!!
Wiley bought dozens of others through too. He created the genre and created many of the big names we see today it's more than likely that if Wiley never was then grime would never have been. The man was knighted to a sir by the Queen he was Sir Richard until he got that honor rescinded because of his views on certain things.
Wiley = Godfather of Grime !!!
Wiley had massive hits with tracks called ROLEX and HEATWAVE. Check them out. That's what he is referring too
No don’t check them out. They were his sell out tracks
@@JJ-pl5cj love Wiley but I agree, don't check them out because it doesn't even really add context to the beef... He has plenty other tunes to check out
Westwood freestyle being one of them
Wiley is the grime war original bossman. On a side tip, check out the war report by Logan Sama.
Was a pirate radio slot where Logan reviewed all the war dubs dropped 🔥🔥🔥 Grime history Chambers there 👊
Without Wiley, there'd be no Stormzy🔥💯
3:47 the 'Rolex' and 'Heatwave' bars are also titles of Wileys tracks that were top of the charts so he's also saying he's been there done that.
One his big issues with Stormzy is that he went pop, something Wiley did and so he says he's trying to get Stormzy to not fall for the labels and public pushing the numbers game but keep it real like he wishes he did.... Of course many think he saying this jealous of Stormzy kicking on and Wiley never.
Wiley brought Chip in when he was 16. They always have respect for each other. It's ironic that Chip bodied Stormzy in their beef . Chip had a bar way back that said he'd murder an mc for Wiley and he definitely did😂
How come chip bodied stormzy? That’s at least debatable. And chip isn’t relevant now… he peeked long time ago
@@sambor it's not debatable at all. Stormzy sent some sly disses back on features... Weren't even a clash really cuz he was too scared to go direct with it.
Bless to wiley for tha, chip 🔥
@@PeterLarter81 Hi Peter, hope you're doing good 👋
@@Wendy-nk2de hey Wendy same to you, have a great weekend
Been waiting on you guys doing this beef so glad it’s dropping haha, I know you’ve done the a couple more and can’t wait for the others
Good reaction.
Wiley 6 in tha morning.
Wiley 30 minute freestyle.
Also listen to Devlins diss against wiley when he was just 17 her verbally destroyed wiley
This literally is that beat from the track with Devlin albeit rehashed - big up bros ☝️
So glad you’re doing this beef ❤
I need you guys to come with a grime throwback. Devlin Wiley diss when he was 16. Probably still one of the best 🔥🔥
Its Devlin - Extra Extra th-cam.com/video/mu4Mr2oGwPw/w-d-xo.html classic. Devlin was 16-17 years old
To understand more what Wiley did for the grime scene listen closely to Kano's made in the Manor! Kano said 'Wiley was our Quincy (Jones) and Michael was Dylan (Dizzee)"
Or Kane said " If you tell a kid he wont be shit then he wont be shit! But ill tell a kid like Wiley told me you will make P's kid"
Stormzy is a talented industry plant. Pop grime, appeal to the mainstream.
Wiley is anti all that.
Facts💯 you'll get Stormzy fans in their feelings😂
Just leave it here, couple #grime tracks for you guys. Appreciate your videos🖖
Wiley - Can't Take it
Wiley - Therapy Battling
Lethal Bizzle - Dapper Dan
Manga Saint Hillare - Man Know
D Power Diesle - Goodies
Capo Lee - Baitest Sound
Frisco - Go Thru Face
Oh man... Cant wait for part 2🍿
I prefer Wiley’s disses every round
Definitely💯🔥
Every round you have to be on crack
If you like wiley . Youll definately like kano . Specifically the album made in the manor .
Wiley v goodz
If you really wanna check Wiley check his freestyles or early tracks as far as beef goes do his back and forth with durrty goodz or the movement much better 👌🏻👌🏻
Wiley - crash bandicoot ❤
Also wiley flow re-uses a bunch of old wiley flows, supposedly as homage
You guys have to review the p money vs ghetts beef, classic stuff
I can’t wait for the next ones:
Stormzy - disappointed
Wiley - ediayt skengman 2
Stormzy - still disappointed
In that order it’s sick 😷
Eediyt skengman 3 ain’t even worth it, it’s kind of his submission
@@leighinibiza yes bro that’s why I didn’t list it 😂 I wouldn’t waste my time
After this beef eneded, dot rotten also made a diss for stormzy straight after
Dot rotten literally went at everyone in grime, and only got a reply from Jaykae, and a few bars from Jay1
Wiley made grime mainstream! All these man are his youngers!
A Skeng is a name for a gun over here.
Stormzy had freestyles called the Wicked skeng man part 1-4 I think
Great reaction guys, if you want a diss track you need to listen to devlin - xtra xtra Wiley diss, one of best in the uk scene in my opinion
Check out his first set of albums lads. Tunnel Vision Volumes ❤
Hey guys! Love the reaction! Can you guys please react to all four songs in this beef between Stormzy and Wiley? Would be fun to watch :)
With that i mean first Eediyat Skengman 1 as you did here, then Disappointed by stormzy, then Eediyat Skengman 2 and then Still disappointed by Stormzy. Then you get the full picture of this to round disstrack beef. Forget about the "Wiley flow", thats a homage to Wiley.
Flowdan, The Bug - Skeng
yeah this would be good
I respect Wiley for all he did for grime especially bring through chip and ice kid but his response to stormzy after this missed so hard.
Still no Big Narstie?
Please do Berna FITB or Mad about Bars or his daily Duppy all top 5 imo
His black box is crazy
@@davidmclaren9027 I didn’t want to be greedy but yes again top 5 imo
I'm sooo excited for disappointed and still disappointed lets goooo
Holy grime beat nice track if you haven't checked it out
You guys need to do some more Aesop Rock :P
wiley is the godfather of grime, stormzy is nothing compared to him(not just musically)
The best is yet to come from Stormzy.
Oh it's brutal.
At the end of it all, You actually feel sorry for Wiley. He gets ruined.
You have both seen Mel Made me do it. Who do you think he was talking too on that looool. But Still disappointed was the last of the official battle and that's where Stormzy destroys him.
It's true that Stormzy does make music for the radio but he still makes music for the underground too.
After this, I mentioned it before.
Vossi Bop. Yes it's commercial but it was a global hit and it's still my favourite Stormzy track.
I'm very confident you would love it.
Wrong 😂
Stormzy don’t do underground music and what stormzy say to Wiley nothing Wiley is godfather of grime there no stormzy with out him
@@scott8225 Oh Stop it. There's no you without your parents.
It's the worse argument ever
Comes up a few times, but he mentions Ed (Sheeran). Ed and Stormzy making tracks together annoyed Wiley as Ed is one of the biggest pop stars and he felt he was just 'using' the genre for more views/likes (and other artists like him).
A bit crappy really as Ed came up with Devlin and featured with a lot of grime acts and even had a track with Wiley before!
Devlins wiley Diss ended the man
Yo !! U need to go through all of Aystar freestyles 🔥🔥🔥
And now comes disappointed... hell yes.
Yall gotta check out frozen by james blake
Skeng - Gun
Pete and bas have just dropped a club tune
What till you hear stormzys 2rd diss. 😮
The actual battle starts from this one
Stormzy a nugget using OG flows with his label to cash in on their shit and making out his ‘paying homage’
If it’s real homage offer them the fucking money for the flow you bitten you leech or ask them to be on the track.
Wiley created grime.
Wiley wins by default from a culture and morality standpoint.
Stormzy cashed in.
Depends it’s what you see as winning.
Having money and sacrificing your honour or being a man of honour with less money.
Waddup Buzz Fam! MABU just dropped his album, like 8 new songs! I would love to see y’all react to them! Here are my favorites in case y’all wanna check them out!
- “EVIL EMPIRE” Ft. DD Osama
- “UNDERDOG SONG” Ft. Lil Baby
- “OPPY DAY” (Hilarious)🔥
and “PLEDGE”.
Comments here are mad.
Wiley flow was not a dis it was homage. This is came from Stormzy backing Ed Sheeran over the culture vulture comment.
This is the start,
Then disappointed,
Then eediyat skengman pt 2
Then still disappointed,
Then eediyat skengman pt 3 which Stormzy did not reply to because he absolutely destroyed him in still disappointed
Definitely checkout the Wicked Skengman Series of freestyles that Stormzy did. some classic stuff and a lot of legends in the background of those videos inc Big Shaq, Frisco and many Grime legends. still good today even if your not a stormzy fan 3 and 4 my personal favs
wiley flow was to pay homage to wiley, but he took it wrong and sent for stormzy, so stormzy replied with disappointed
Devlin Extra Extra
Guys need go back to durrty goodz and Wiley clashes 2002 2003 and more sends in 2008/9
Stormzy ears him alive
Eedyiat skengman is making fun of stormzy’s wicked skengman (skengs are guns)
Most youngers thinks stormzy won the clash but from a grime music standpoint I think Wiley smoked him and showed the real essence of the culture he created
Aystar dailly duppy s5 ep11
*Dot Rotten* aka *Zeph Elllis* started all this, sending for countless rappers.
He destroyed countless rappers with daily videos...
But once *Wiley* decided to delete his 2 videos to *Dot,* and...
Only a few big names replied after a few months...
*Dot* decided to delete all his sends, replies, and videos from his 2 new albums from his TH-cam channel.
Skengman = gunman
You guys are about to see stormzy go crazy on the next one
When he says he aint gonna mention maya he means stormzy ex gf maya jama. Rumours were that stormzy cheated on maya with jorja smith
Wiley flow wasn't really a diss that's why stormzy didn't go in there on him he was trying to pay homage to wiley and he took it as a diss.
Also let’s face it Wiley knew what he was doing, even when he did the Zeze interview he aimed at Stormzy because it would make him relevant again. And Stormzy backing Ed Sheeran over the culture vulture comment
Early squad
Stormzy didn't start it, Wiley Flow was a homage but Wiley wasn't selling records like he used to. He wound up Stormz about the single with Ed Sheeran he did after Wiley Flow, they got into a back and forth, then Wiley started it with Ediyat Skengman
I thought it was a homage track at first but making that track after he called everyone his youngers then immediately starting the track talking bout numbers when Wiley wasn't getting any definitely felt like he was taking shots
Wiley ft Devlin - holy grime that you guys reacted to is the same beat as this, love stormz but Wiley is the godfather of grime a real og over there in the UK pretty much how fraksha is for us in AUS🦘
The song Wiley flow wasn’t even a diss track it had a few shots.
This song is called ediayat skengman because Stormzy used the call himself the wicked skeng man
Wiley is one of the original grime scene members. Many people call him the Godfather of Grime.
He didn’t like Stormzy calling himself the king of Grime as Stormzy is new in the game in camparison to Wiley, Dizzee Rascal, Kano, ghetts etc.
Stormzy is undoubtedly more successful than Wiley and Wiley is like the bitter old gen guy.
Without a doubt though Wiley is an OG in the UK
Well said
Nah, Wiley is fast losing his reputation.
You have to be a Wiley fan to say this
Wiley is embarrassing now.
@@charliecosta3971 he is getting older. Doesn’t change the fact he was one of the founders of Grime and one of the most successful rappers of the time (back then)
@@ThatWuzSetup back then!!! Stormzy took it to a level beyond anything Wiley could ever achieve. That's the point.
It's comparing Henry Ford to Ferruiccio Lamborghini.
Time moves on.
Just because Wiley was the original it doesn't mean he can't be surpassed.
@@charliecosta3971 reread my original comment you muppet.
I said stormy is way more successful and Wiley is like the bitter older gen guy.
I have way more stormzy on my phone than Wiley.
I was just explaining it to the guys
Day 9 requesting ghetts birthday - fuck radio set
Griminal and Devlin went crazy on that! I'd like to see them react to it
@@davidmclaren9027 yeah for me this is devlin at his absolute best. Wouldn’t mind seeing them react to the movement under 18s set as well for the same reasons 😂
Just so you are aware, "Wiley Flow" was not a diss by Stormzy, he was paying homage. However, Wiley didn't care for people talking about him whether it be good or bad (More than likely saw a chance to make his name relevant again), As Wiley was one of the biggest, -if not- THE biggest UK Grime Artist at one point, he went mainstream with songs like "Ayayaya", "Wearing my Rolex" and "Heatwave" which he mentions in this track.
It gets much more personal for both men after the next tracks.
Haha i honestly cant wait untill you hear stormzys next 2 tracks he actually kills wiley 😅 especially with the last one still disappointed
Listen to dissappointed right now
You know this was the send. So it's this vs disappointed.
I just can't get on with wiley in these, they seem desperate
Please do wileys epic freestyle . You need to get it done before you finish this clash. This ain't peak wiley