End-of-Life Visions and Other Experiences with Barbara Karnes RN | EOLU Podcast
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- This week I'm welcoming back my recurring guest Barbara Karnes RN, hospice nurse and international speaker and educator. She is also the author of the "little blue hospice book" Gone from My Sight and the recent book for caregivers, By Your Side. Barbara and I discuss common phenomena that occur during the last days of life that can be upsetting to families if they don't understand what's happening. As usual we share lots of stories and experiences along with our own approach to handling these situations. Learn more about Barbara's work at her website:
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This episode includes:
🍃 The frequency of unexplained phenomena at the end of life
🍂 What it's like when a patient experiences a deathbed vision
🍃 The symbolic language that patients may use prior to death
🍂 What is terminal lucidity and how to help loved ones understand what is happening
🍃 How to respond to patients and caregivers when deathbed phenomena occur
🍂 Why it's important to validate and normalize these experiences
🍃 Why we should avoid interjecting our own beliefs and interpretations about these events
🍂 How to help loved ones find the gift in these experiences rather than be afraid of them
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I recently went on hospice due to my cancer by my choice. I'm 76 and happy to go. I have lately heard (plain as day) a nice voice saying "hello" in the middle of the night. I think it's either an angel or someone from my past working their way up to a longer visit. This video kind of confirmed that for me. Everyone on earth should see this video, I think.
When my. Mom was dying she kept seeing a man in a white suit who told her he was there to help go 😂 heaven
Just test the spirits please. Ask for Jesus to reveal himself or is this from him?
On death bed visions saying “HELLO”, most of us are familiar with the song EDELWEISS in the Sound of Music with Lyrics written by Hammerstein (famous ROGERS & Hammerstein).
I did some research on the life of Oscar Hammerstein II as I also lived in Manhattan & studied at Columbia U where he got his law degree....
I am able to interpret what was really on his mind....I made the following comment on TH-cam
To better appreciate the meaning of Oscar Hammerstein’s Edelweiss lyrics,
one needs to know that he was dying of stomach cancer when he wrote the “last song for the “Sound of Music Musical”. It is the last song because the early audience of the Broadway Show of this musical asked “ Why did all the family of Von Trapp sing but the Captain did not sing??
So Hammerstein was asked to quickly come up with the lyrics that would accompany the melody Mr. Rogers would write a farewell song melody… I believe Hammerstein dying of cancer is imagining himself transitioning from farewell Earth toHello…into “his homeland heaven greeted by a beautiful white flower every morning” Imagine it is the end of winter in Heaven & the first flower of Spring in Heaven's homeland is this white flower happy to greet him……” “May you bloom and grow Bloom and grow forever... Edelweiss...Edelweiss... Bless my homeland forever...(Time does not exist in Heaven, Edelweiss blooms FOREVER!!!) From Wikipedia..”Richard Rodgers felt Captain von Trapp should have a song with which he would “bid farewell “ to the Austria he knew and loved.[1] Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II decided to write an extra song that von Trapp would sing towards the end of the show.[2] …. Edelweiss" is the last song Rodgers and Hammerstein wrote together; Hammerstein was suffering from stomach cancer,[3] which took his life nine months.
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"Edelweiss" from THE SOUND OF MUSIC | A Look At Oscar Hammerstein II's Lyrics
Rodgers & Hammerstein
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On October 21, 1959, Rodgers & Hammerstein inserted a new song, "Edelweiss," into THE SOUND OF MUSIC during its pre-Broadway run in Boston.
The composition would be the final lyrics Oscar Hammerstein II ever wrote, as he would pass away on August 23, 1960. Take a peek at his early drafts of the song,
and discover what the lyrics could have been!
Various Artist - Edelweiss (with Lyrics)
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@@mrgetinge oh thank you so much for this information. The sound of music is my all-time favorite. I absolutely love it. And Edelweiss is my favorite song in the whole movie. I always wondered why it made me cry, and now I guess I know. Thank you for that. I plan to have it played at my funeral. Again, thank you and God bless you for your comment and this information.
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The last night I visited with my brother dying from the rejection of transplanted lungs, he asked that I bring him a chili dog, chili burger and onion rings from the drive in, the Varsity, an Atlanta institution that was a very wonderful place of family memories. His last meal in the ICU of Emory university hospital in Atlanta was of my brother eating a meal that symbolized the culmination of joyous family memories for my brother.
For the remainder of the evening, we called family members and expressed to them how much he loved them. It was a marvelous evening of farewell that left all of us blessed to know that when he passed later that evening, he did so at peace.
Today whenever I eat an onion ring, I feel my brother’s love.
🧅 yay 😀
Thank you. Now I understand that my friend left me with a final gift. I thought he was just hallucinating, but now see, we were sharing a moment in his eyes, a visit to our favorite place to watch the wild horses out on the desert.
Back in 2004 my MIL had been in the hospital after having a heart attack. My husband had been up to see her after work one night. He came home and told me his Mom had been talking to her Mom, Sister and her very best friend who died years before. He didn’t know what to think.
I worked in Nursing Homes for years and I ran across people often who passed not long after seeing loved ones. I went to the hospital the next morning but my MIL had had a stroke to where she couldn’t get out words, but she could still point and motion. She was very much alert. When I came in the room she started pointing to a corner of the room and was trying to get out with all her might that someone was there. Actually more than one person as she pointed at separate people. I know they were people because I asked her by name if it was the 3 people she told my husband about. She was all excited and shook her head yes and waved her hand at each person’s name. I had such a peaceful feeling. I just acted like I seen the people and that made her really happy. I knew she was terribly afraid to die. We had talked about that many times.
I needed to go but I told my MIL that my husband, her Son, would be there that evening after work. When he got home from work that evening I told him he needed to go she his mom. He had an extremely rough day at work and he told me he thought he would just rest that night and go the next night and that the nurses had told him the night before that they weren’t expecting his mom to pass for at least several days. I told him I didn’t think she had that much time and that I couldn’t be sure she would pass that night but I knew she didn’t have long. Thank goodness he felt led to go. She did pass that night. I’m so glad he did go to visit as I promised he would. And I’m certainly glad my MIL had her Mother, Sister and best friend to take her home, especially since she was so afraid to be alone.
There was more to the story that was a little strange on the day I went to the hospital, even the fact that I went to the hospital at all but I might be able to tell that part another time if anyone is interested, but I got out the part about her visits.
I have no doubt that these visits are real.
Share the rest if able, I’d love to hear more!! Thanks for sharing that touching story
👍Yes, please tell the rest
When my father was in the hospital & we were speaking to the Dr in the hallway that it wasn't looking good, my dad called my name. I ran in & he had only time to say I'm dying. Then I could tell he was going through his life. All I could understand was "oh the whales... they're so beautiful". I remember he used to tell me of the whales he loved to watch in Hawaii while in WWII. Within a couple minutes he was gone
Oh losing our daddy is terribly sad I lost mine when he was 58 and I was 23 he passed while in his own bed with all of us around him my mummy was a nurse and was caring for him he was so beautiful I remember once a few wks before he left my sister n I were sitting beside his bed and he said to me did you eat all of your peter rabbit it broke my heart I knew I was losing this wonderful love of my life and I wasn't ready I had such a difficult time I wanted it not to be so it was too soon instinct is such an amazing gift my sister would collect me and we would go see him every night but the nightof his passing I refused to go my sister told me I had to because he was calling for me instinctively I must have known that was the night and I couldn't bear the pain equally he knew what I was feeling he wasn't leaving until I came up and so it was he passed into the company of CHRIST and we were left forever changed 😢😢😢
We are going through this process now, my mom is 100 with advanced dementia. I'm her primary caregiver and I'm observing much of this as she is in in-hospices. She stares at the ceiling alot, and talks alot by herself.
Thanks so much to both of you. This is such an important issue, I really appreciate your stories and perspectives! 👍🙏🙏
My grandmother was in the hospital right before she passed. One day she looked at the ceiling in the corner of the room and said that it fell down. But everything was fine. That ceiling fell down the next day. 😳
Thank you so much for this conversation!!❤ The end of life process truly is a gift!
Just because we cannot see it does not mean it isn't there. Lots of science is invisible to the naked eye. I truly believe our people come to fetch us home.
OMG, this was so good in so many ways. TY.
I wish I could have came across your podcasts before my mom died. None of it made sense at the time and had I known some of this stuff I would've asked her more questions 🙁 The nurses sedated my mom and I asked them not too becuase I wanted to be able to talk to her if she had something to say. I think they robbed us of our last moments because it was easier for them. I didn't know if she needed it or not. Maybe it was better for mom to be asleep but I sure wish that if she could say something I would've loved to hear it. I miss her so much
God Bless you!!
It’s wonderful to hear great stories about how much you love your Mom. I wish everyone had a great Mother like you did. Every child deserves great parents.
When my brother was in his dying time, he shared some wonderful experiences he was having. He called my husband and myself into his room one night, in the middle of the night. He was 35 years old, but the look on his face was that of a child, excited, joyful. He said, God was just here. Look. Its still warm where he was sitting. I asked him what God looked like. He said,God comes to each person in a way that person is comfortable, and for me he loomed like a grandfather with long white hair. God told him he needed to get a candle and burn it until it is gone. Then he could go home
What an absolutely beautiful video! I am in tears right now. Having been at the bedside of both my parents and my mother-in-law in their last moments, I can relate to a lot of this. My only regret is that I didn’t have this knowledge before my loved ones passed. I wish I would have had these videos to watch and your books to read beforehand so that I would have been better prepared for what was happening. Thank you so very much for sharing this conversation. It helped me understand some of the things that were happening and gives me the knowledge that I will need if I am with another loved one in the future during their journey.
loved this so much thank you both!
I gain so much from the conversations you both have together! Thank you so much!
Great channel! I deeply appreciate these discussions! I think you both are great gals! Thanks for sharing important understanding about death and thus life.💖💖
Love listening to you and Barbara! Thank you to you both.
My MIL heard people coming upstairs to her bedroom in our home a few days before she passed while she was awake & not bedridden. One night we were up talking til 3am & I stepped away... she said someone is bouncing like their hand on my bed. So I said Billy Jr (deceased husband) we'll go to bed if you stop that. The bouncing stopped & we went to bed.
Truly lovely
All four of my husband and my parenrs are in their 90s. I’m so thankful for this video. There was so much to learn in it. Thank you.
funniest thing is that this video was posted 1 year ago - i have just gone through the year anniversary of my dads death and have wondered where the big, miraculous spiritual experience is that I felt like I was going to have. i thought surely on the 1 year anniversary something might happen. well, tonight, i cooked dinner for my family and incorporated a brand new ingredient that we have never included in any of our dinners - onion rings. i almost did not watch this video as I was scrolling through youtube and a little nudge had me click the video. sounds SO mundane, onion rings... message received LOL!
Brilliant
Thank you graciously, I love learning of all different experiences in death . I believe in everything that’s been said in your video.
WOW Super awesome stories. Thankyou both.❤❤
Ladies, thank you.. you are sharing what I call "open visions"...
Having conversation and support is so important in this transition...
I've done a fair amount of end of life care in hospitals, convalescent homes, homes...
Everyone needs this "gift of letting go"
I am so greatful for both of you!!! That was great!!
Now ibwant onion rings 😂
Hi, your Video was very Good, My Dear Mother passed away in 2011, things were not good Sibling wise in our family, with family members fighting about things, it would take 2 long here to tell everything, Heres what i can tell in a short message, 2 of my sisters ( Meddlers is a better word) , when Mom went into a nursing home, they both started controlling things, i at first was a Power of Attorney, but i backed out when the talk was going on that Mom was going 2 b shut Off, I said I Wont b any part of that, because i thought Mom had a Chance Yet, " If She would have gotten the Proper Medical Care, but i got voted out, a few days later i got called at 12 midnight, because the nursing home said Mom was getting near the end, well I hurried and got there, but She wasn't any different from the day b 4, then the meddlers came and started a party, i got so Upset i left, ( Mom and me were So Close that She didnt even have to tell me to do something, i just could feel what She was saying, " Well a feeling like that came upon me saying ' I am Going to be Ok, please leave, ( She knew the meddlers were going to start something, and Mom told me 2 Leave, not even a half hour went by and i get a call saying Mom Passed, and nothing was explained as to how She went, ( what i found out later, was She was given someone to make Her Pass on, ( if i would have stayed i would have Thrown a Fit, because I was Against anything like that, ( thats why Mom told me in her own way when that feeling came upon me telling me to leave, ) I didnt get to be on the funeral planning because the one sister smarted off to me and i left, ( the day of Her funeral, i got there and the meddlers were at it again, and i Got that same feeling ( Please leave and i Did, Somethings i heard later i would have thrown a fit at that, in Moms Defence of Course) so I left, the meddlers later tried taking so.e Money that Mom put away for Me because i took care of Her since 1988 after Dad Passed, i had to leave the home we had, i started living in my Truck, and the lawyer did get the money back for me, and i put a Down payment on a Home of my own , and here i am today, Yet i feel I Failed my Mom for leaving , i felt i Could have Stood Up for Her alot more, Yet She was telling me that i should let it go theres been enough fighting in the family, Sorry this went on so long, Your Video Touched me that i had to Write this, Thank You Again
Sorry you lost your Mom she is proud of you for letting it go about your sisters. 👍
I am so sorry you had to go through this. Death brings out the worst in people. You did a great job with your mom, I know you lost the house but you were able too make a fresh start for yourself.i think your mom would be very proud of you. If your family was bullying you I can’t imagine what your mom felt, which is probably why she asked you to go. They should be ashamed of themselves. You did the best you could helping her and taking care of her. Your mom is always around you and I can’t see her being disappointed at all in you. You were the one who loved her, and cared for her. My dad is declining fast, my brother was always the favorite, he’s getting everything. 2 houses, a summer house,a business,multiple vehicles,tractors etc. I was pissed at first but I take care of my dad every week. I stay multiple days and nights with him. I live an hour away..my brother? He is 5 minutes away from my dad. He don’t want to be involved in his care. It’s ok because I never had a relationship with my father, and these past few years I have learned so much from our conversations and nightly movies. Stuff is stuff, memories are priceless! I send you love and hugs from PA❤🙏🏻🦋
@@sapphirerain70 Thank You 4 Your Kind Words ! Seems like U R going Through what I went Through, I will pray 4 U , U R Right Stuff is Just stuff, yeah I lost the house, ' Mom wasn't there anymore so it was just a house then, nothing worth fighting 4, the house was sold " As Is , so I got what things I could move and left the rest, what part of PA R U From if I can ask ? I got my Girlfriend out in Maryland and whenever I can get out there I want to visit PA , in 1988 I went Through there Through Pittsburgh with a Friend, we were hauling cattle and couldn't stop 2 enjoy things, so I want 2 get back out there and Spend some time there, My Girlfriend and me R getting real Close Friends , I don't know if a marriage will happen , God will decide on that thank U Again !
@@billshepherddog3508 I Grew up in Pgh but I live near Belle Vernon area now. (South of Pgh) . I am happy to hear you are doing ok and a marriage may be happening in the future! I been through so much heart break that I have been single for 5 years now by choice. It’s lonely but I have other things to focus on lol. Hugs to you!
Sometime We need a bit of Space 4 Ourselves 2 Sort things out, I can understand that all the way
Great video ladies ❤❤
The unknown experience you talk about is well known and common. The world of spirit because we go on....
My Mom said “I thought Aunt Lorraine & Aunt Louise died but they were here last night”. She passed a few days later.
Thanks for sharing this podcast! It was very informative and helpful. 😊😊
Does anyone have any insight into caregivers having dreams about the person they are caring for before they pass? This segment is speaking of the dying but what about the person that is doing the care. I was a caregiver to someone I knew, living with early onset. When she transitioned to memory care I continued to play a huge role in her life focusing on her social wellbeing. I took her out all the time. A few months before she died I had a dream that while I was attending to another client that she went to the door and was trying to turn the knob to get out. I looked over at the wall and their was a map on the wall with the emphasis in the dream the title which said Grass Roots. by the time I turned back around she had got the door open and began to run. I started running after her call her name and she began to run faster and faster out of reach so I stopped running and she disappeared.
How about extra ordinary instead of non-ordinary?
My 85 yo mother is currently in hospital in decline. She's been moved to several different rooms during her stay. She referred to the first one as "the fruit stand" and she has a lengthy, somewhat scary story about the fruit stand and some Halloween visions. She was always scared of Halloween. The second room was "the cow barn" or "the horse stable" and there she recounts being insulted by the nurses and doctors for looking messy or having a sweaty gown. I'm sure they didn't really say that to her. She was then moved to "the motorcycle shop" where she wanted to call police because the porters lost her pillow in real life. She's otherwise lucid. She's yet to mention any dead relatives especially her parents or my dad, but I'm waiting for it. She's seen them many times like ghosts in the last 20 years but now when I'd expect her to see them she hasn't.
The other hospice nurses said they give medication for terminal aggitation. I think you should
when my sister passed May 16, 2024.she was in a Nursing Home due to having 3 Brain Tumors and the local hospital ended hospice care. and when she was still very lucid and even able to us a phone. Visions, she seen of different people enter her room it always happened after visiting hours. but she would call us the next morning and tell us who was there that night. she called one morning and said Jesus entered her room and sat down and talked to her. she couldn't wait to tell us all about it. she said she could not see his face but said it was him. and sometimes she would ask why certain people had not visited her. Who had already passed on and we would tell her that they would be there they were busy or sick and the moment and would eventually come. a Hospice Nurse came in about twice a week, from a different town but all the nurses gave my sister the best care and love because she did not put up with any other patient's bull and they loved her because of it. could never ask for the greatest love and care they showed her
Bs... Fake Jesus wouldn't hide.
It was the end of “her shift” that’s what she was acknowledging. Time for her onion 🧅 rings.
Rings.. the symbol of eternity ❤
On interpreting death bed visions of famous people like Steve Jobs saying “WOW” , what was the “WOW” of the famous Rogers & Hammerstein ? Many people cry when listening to Edelweiss song of the Sound of Music & do not understand WHY? I think I can explain WHY…….
I did some research on the life of Oscar Hammerstein II as I also lived in Manhattan & studied at Columbia U where he got his law degree....
I am able to interpret what was really on his mind....I made the following comment on TH-cam
To better appreciate the meaning of Oscar Hammerstein’s Edelweiss lyrics,
one needs to know that he was dying of stomach cancer when he wrote the “last song for the “Sound of Music Musical”. It is the last song because the early audience of the Broadway Show of this musical asked “ Why did all the family of Von Trapp sing but the Captain did not sing??
So Hammerstein was asked to quickly come up with the lyrics that would accompany the melody Mr. Rogers would right…a farewell song melody… I believe Hammerstein dying of cancer is imagining himself transitioning from farewell Earth to Hello…into “his homeland heaven greeted by a beautiful white flower every morning” Imagine it is the end of winter in Heaven & the first flower of Spring in Heaven's homeland is this white flower happy to greet him……” “May you bloom and grow Bloom and grow forever... Edelweiss...Edelweiss... Bless my homeland forever...(Time does not exist in Heaven, Edelweiss blooms FOREVER!!!) From Wikipedia..”Richard Rodgers felt Captain von Trapp should have a song with which he would “bid farewell “ to the Austria he knew and loved.[1] Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II decided to write an extra song that von Trapp would sing towards the end of the show.[2] …. Edelweiss" is the last song Rodgers and Hammerstein wrote together; Hammerstein was suffering from stomach cancer,[3] which took his life nine months.
If hell really exists, you do want anybody goes there.
Hell exists just as much as Heaven does…and yes, I wouldn’t wish that a single soul ends up there…
Not explain it. Dont promote ignorance
My grandmother looked terrified. I've never seen such terror in ones eyes, nor do i ever want to again.
She said to me, "This is awful, dont ever get old."
My mother had that look too.
It's confusing.
She was a christion.