Home Audio Speaker Battle! KLIPSCH FORTE IV vs WHARFEDALE DOVEDALE
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- Who makes the best speakers for music? We compare Klipsch against Wharfedale! Let me know what you think in the comments!
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All I have to say is thanks again for everything as I purchased the Dovedales from yall and love them!
KLIPSCH .......bigger scale...bigger sound...no question for me. Great video thanks.
Those Dovedales are gorgeous. Loving the videos!
Thanks Martin! I’d have to agree, thanks for watching and commenting as well!
Love the dovedales. I enjoy both your channels. Keep the videos coming, Lenny... I hear better separation and clarity as well as had just a fuller sound to the music.
Thanks for sharing! Did you enjoy me adding a quick sound demo?
I enjoy all of your videos but I especially love your history videos. Keep 'em coming! I've heard that speakers sound best in a listening room because all of the other speakers give off sympathetic vibrations.
Yeah having other speakers can apparently negatively affect things. Luckily it’s never bothered me
Gave up after 2/3 of the video had passed without a single word about sound or spec's. First/last time watching your channel.
It was hard to tell. I can say I was in the store a while back and LOVE the LaScala !
Glad you were able to come by and listen to them with us!
Lenny... Is that a pair of Klipsch RF-7000 III back there on the wall ? What do you think about those??
i prefer the wharfedale´s linton ,as it as more clear sound but both are very good, i have from klipsch the cornwalls, other type of sound, also depends in what amplifier one´s using
Those Warfedale's remind me of a Cerwin Vega speaker circa late 80s,early 90s. Minus the red foam bass surrounds. I had a pair of AT-15s. Shook my house apart.😂😂😂
in the 90´s bought the biggest cerwin vega´s available cost me each what todays is 975€ in promotion as they were in the same store for 3 years
The Forte’s get my vote
I'm a Forte 4 fanboy but the dovedale's are a more balanced speaker. I liked them both. Typical horn sound vs the pure British sound. I've got both sounds at my home in the same room. Just because both are 100% my taste. But Lenny, you really, really need to do some videos on the Klipsch kg series too! Greetings from Belgium
Hi Lenny! Even listening through my inexpensive computer speakers, the difference was stark. I am not sure if the gain was matched as the Dovedale's came off quite a bit louder. Or am I mistaken? With that being said, I preferred the Dovedale's. Peter Comeau would be happy with that. Of course, $2K price difference. Horn speakers vs cone. They are completely different products, obviously.
May be hearing the difference in the amps as well, but the fortes honestly were playing louder
As far as sound goes, I can't really give a opinion because I'm watching on a tablet and using earbuds, lol. I can honestly say I like the looks of the Forte's more though. I grew up in the 80's, so the Forte's have a soft spot in my heart, lol. Awesome video!
Thanks Jim! I also listened to it from my airpods
Interesting! I found that I liked both, surprisingly for me, and considering that this listen was via a cellphone(!) and headphones, so I figure I'd have to hear both 'in the flesh', as would be my usual practice. But my observation, for what its worth over this medium and its limitations, is that the Wharfedale presented a more smooth and natural timbre through the very important mid and treble, BUT I also found that the Klipsch was very pleasing with its enjoyable dynamic expression in the music, without sizzling my eardrums and parting my hair down the center, as per my memories of Klipsch. I value both characteristics, so, as I said before, listening 'in the flesh' would be necessay if I were going to chose betweenst the two. I was expecting the Wharfedale to smoke the Klipsch, but was amazed that I liked the Klipsch as well.
Lenny, that sure is some great gear. I wish I could afford some of it. I wonder if your demos would sound better if there was more acoustic absorption on your walls and ceiling.
Yeah I’m sure they would haha. Did you enjoy the sound demo added in?
@@ThatGuyWithTheBeard Oh yeah - demos twice. Surely, the audio quality is much much better in person. I liked the Dovedales better because the music wasn't as compressed. But, it's difficult so get a good opinion due to my El Cheapo desk system. I sure would like the $$ for much better gear than I have. But, bankruptcy prevents any extra spending.
Keep having a great time with all of your great gear! Wish I was there.
Well, obviously we can’t hear what you’re hearing but for what I’m listening to which is a SX-1980 using vintage German Canton speakers and running your channel through an Apple TV with a Topping DAC is that the Lintons overall sounded more recessed compared to the Forte’s. It could just be a volume difference but there was definitely was a difference on my end for what I heard. 🎶
I wish I was listening on the 1980 haha
I only listen to metal music so have to go with Wharfdale. If you've seen G.R. Research videos we all know the crossover is the downfall of the speakers. Even tho Klipsh redesigned the crossover because of Danny Ritchie they still suck. Listening to metal on Klipsh speakers is so fatiguing and horns are bad. Wharfdale speakers way more smooth. Both speakers lack good base especially mid bass. Both are way overpriced for what you get. Emotiva speakers are 10 times better at half the price. Love the videos! 😊
Thanks for chiming in! Always appreciate it!!
this is total bullshit - i listen to all kind of metal and own cornwall IV and have zero fatiguing with this speaker - even when i listen serveral hours. do not always take for granted what other youtubers say. measurments doesent always tell the whole story.
@@rotation32 I agree with you, I can listen to my crappy punk rock forever on cornwalls!
What amp are yall using with the cornwalls.I have forte 3s with marantz model 40n and most rock sounds bad on them.Then put some unplugged music jazz etc they sound amazing
@@rotation32i listen to death metal and black metal all the time on my cornwall iiis... never ear fatiguing as well.
Preferred the Advance Paris / Klipsch combo. The Dovedale / Accuphase combo's treble is more detailed but the AP/Klipsch was just more fun and enjoyable to listen to IMO.
About the channel ,you are in reality a world wide star ,more than some said to be famous as in all corners of the world you´re being watched, keep on doing nice and at some point comedy remarks are made , i was going to writte "keep on truckin`" , today not all understand the reference
Thank you! I will keep on truckin for sure!
The bass guitar and drums were clearer and more prominent through the Wharfedale. The upper range however was a little pushed forward.
A different amplifier may change this.
Dovedale mids and highs better too. it would be great to hear comparison of dovedale with the new mofi 888 next when you get them in.
Yeah that’s the next one I wanna get in as well!
Would love a history of the Klipsch and include the KG series as I haven't seen much on the KG series speakers.
I haven’t done a history on Klipsch hmmmmmm…
@@ThatGuyWithTheBeard You listened to all the classic Klipsch models everyone talks about but I didn't see any KG models which are easier to find. There seems to be a gap or void between the classic legendary line to the new modern RP line.
I have had SEVERAL pairs of KG 4''S and they REALLY are overlooked...rebuilt ALL the crossovers on them and became AMAZING speakers!!!!!
H ave the RF 7 III's which REALLY need an update..🤔
Lenny the Dovedales smoother mids and lower bottom end Nice speakers. Listen to Sara Mclauglin any song from the Surfacing album
Patrick!!!!! Thanks as always buddy!
So Lenny, most of the time everything sounds like what my TV system sounds like. However, this time the bass from the Wharfedale was very prevalent.
Yeah gets very deep! Did you like the comparison?
@@ThatGuyWithTheBeard I did. I actually could hear the bass come in. Most of the time I can’t tell. It all sounds like my system.
I have Wharfedale E-70's and Old Klipsch La Scala's. Different, but both great. Think I'd pick the E-70's
That’s very interesting, thanks for contributing! What makes you pick those?
The Klipsch Forte sounded a little more clear.
I have an old advertised Klipsch frequency response graph from 1990. I wish you could see how flat the response is...I know them measurements were fudged back in the day.
I’ve never looked at a measurement lol
Klipsch sound better to me, but its all personal preferences. Thanks for videos, specially history of the brands.
Thanks for watching!
Dovedales for me in this shootout!
I could picture Mr. French talking to Bill Davis about the virtues of owning Wharefdale Dovedales. Perfect for the Family Affair Penthouse Apartment. Mrs. Beasly will get over it!
Love the Dovedales
More natural and smoother sound
On my TV it sounded like the Klipsch speakers had more mid to high end range while the dovdale's sounded better at the bottom to mid-range. Just a question, how can a 150 watt amplifier be loud enough for anyone? I have the Klipsch Pro series speakers with a 350 w RMS Carver amplifier and for me that's still not loud enough. My speakers will handle 600 w RMS. My ears are old but they can't be that bad. I like extremely loud music, especially when I'm playing my drums to different records.
It’s those drummer ears! I barely use any watts even when using a giant powerful receiver!
I have a 180 watt SS A/AB amp and a 25 watt tube amp. The tube amp will drive the Fortes easily as well as the high powered amp, the tube amp also sounds better by a hair.
Wharfedales had more base that’s about all I could tell from the audio from my TV with a sound bar. I have Denton thought I might be bias but liked the Forte better but once again it’s from my TV.
Thanks Dan! Great input!
A good comparison would be with the big monitors if possible ( I know it’s not easy) ,
Wharfedale dovedale
Harbeth 40.3xd
Revival audio Atalante 5
Spendor classic 100
……for example ,
I know that this one’s have a good disparity in price point ,…but that would be the fun part of it ,
To see if the more expensive ones are really worth it , and to see if the cheapest ones can pass the test against the more expensive Ones .
Shame that I am not rich like that ,
To buy this ones and more , and to give the unbiased truth to the readers .
Fun for us, but I have a suspicion that would be Less fun for the brands
Nice.... To me. the Klipsch were cleaner and had more separation, The Wharfedales are harder to spell. Immediately the bass shined. But it bled into the mids and highs. Not like an overtone. More like a mute effect. I think with an EQ, I would drool over either. Out front middle is my thing. That's more the subject of the music. being able to appreciate every instrument is the goal. =)
The Wharfedale’s are harder to spell, that’s freakin great. And they are I forget all the time.
Listened to it on the Lintons and these told me the Dovedales are too close to the wall (too much bass).
Nice test. Dovedale sounds more full bodied and musical.
Forte's had more bass and balanced frequencies. The Wharfedales sounded to forward.
Wow really? Interesting take and the opposite for me but glad you chimed in!!
The sound stage from the klipsch was wayyyyy bigger. Not to mention as a klipsch owner,way more sensitivity to put that sound out I'd imagine. 🤔
Great in-site Anthony. Klipsch definitely doesn’t need much to drive them!
I enjoyed the Forte setup better fuller and more detailed . But remember you are using different amps and dacs. So its not really just the speakers
Forte sounds live. Dovedale sounds laid back and softer but might be great for some folks
I think the Dovedale's have a richer sound signature with better low end response.
There is only one Answer for getting to the HPMs and That is "FORTE" ! The Doves are a Modern Tech stuffed in a High Tech Cabinet with High Tech Everything! My Opinion but that's what I really Believe especially after hearing both hooked to my Pioneer SX1280 of Course Completely and Beautifully Restored at Just Audio, you have put together a Class act, and the way you guys Shipped it to me was Second to None!!!
Anyhow that's my Opinion on the Speakers! Even Now I have a Pair of JBL L100 CLASSIC 75s that took me almost a Year to Find! Also a pair of KLH Model 5s that I switch out of the System because they both have a Completely Different Sound so you always have a Fresh Sound to look forward to!
See Ya Lenny, hope we can meet in person sometime! It will be a Blast!!!
Great feedback Dave! Thanks as always for chiming in, means a lot and helps build the channel!
Nice variety of kickass big speakers you have! Haven't heard HPM 100s but size wise they remind me more of my new gen 1 JBL l100 classics I recently got for around the same price of my used Forte IVs (3k plus shipping). Sorry, but 7k for those Dovetales is insane. I have Lintons too and like them and know Dovetales much better ( at least 4 times I guess based on price) but those plastic woofers will rattle with my very bass Marantz 2245 with loudness on whereas the Forte's with 140 watts of class A and JBL 100 classic with 150 watts marantz 300DC power and separates can put on rock concert level SPL in their respective rooms with no such problems. Robust kickass super fun speakers. Klipsch and JBL rule over nice polite Wharefales when it comes to rocking my best r2r recordings (favorite source) and sound amazing doing it!
Liked the sound of the Dovedale. Thought the the sound was more refined, smoother top to bottom. Bass more rounded. Klipsch Forte's sounded good but not has smooth. To me the bass sounded disconnected from the mids.
Great description!
To me the Dovetails sound more neutral, better base sounds more like real instruments.
What an magnificent beard
If I didn’t already pin a comment!!
Wharfedale Dover has more base which was a bit too much for me. Forte IV sounds more clean & pure. Both are still very nice.
Thanks for joining to conversation!
Wharfedale all the way. I have a pair of old Diamond 8.3s. I loves me some British sound.
Gotta get you graduated to the heritage line!
5ft apart vs 12ft apart in different rooms... why not move one pair next to the forte's?
That’s lifting work man
The Wharfdale make more bass, the Klipsch make a more spacious sound, this is through my studio monitor system. if I couldn't get a subwoofer i'd go with the Wharfdale, The weird thing about the Klipsch is as big as they are they kinda need a subwoofer.
Sony amp may not be doing them justice. Mine got much more weighty in the bass after switching from a Yamaha SS to a Vincent hybrid. No longer particularly felt the need for a sub. And I do have a sub but only use it with an AVR for HT and surround music
WHARFEDALE DOVEDALE deeper bass, feel better for me to enjoy music
Klipsch's sounded more natural to me, while the Wharfdale's had a bit of a processed sound...neither bad, but if I had to have a pair based on YT headphone listening...Forte's all day...
Very interesting thanks for joining the conversation!!
What was the name of that song? Born in the 80s? By who?
Falcon Dives
The Klipsch Fourte has a V sound to it with that deep bass but high end horn sound, but the Wharfdale just seems more bloated muddy bass without a lot of detail. Klipsch for the win, in my opinion.
Thanks John appreciate your opinion always! What’s Ava think?
@@ThatGuyWithTheBeard I will ask the expert and let you know.
@ThatGuyWithTheBeard Hey Ava said she liked the Wharfdale better because they had louder and deeper bass. She's apparently a bass head, LOL.
Klipsch sounded much more detailed and transparent...great.
Forte is bright Wharfdale tight bass but would have to listen to my music to choose 😅
True that, what kinda music?
@ThatGuyWithTheBeard Mostly rock some r&b first to mind is Portrait by Kansas or Child of Vision by Supertramp, both have multiple instruments playing simultaneously in a broad frequency range to determine precision, and almost anything by Tool or Rage is the real torture test for speakers and amps alike lol 😆
For me it would be the Dovedale. It is far more compatible to the type music I listen to.
Great take! Thanks for sharing, also what kinda music?
@@ThatGuyWithTheBeard Mostly classical, but some classic rock and jazz.
On my Samsung phone absolutely no difference. Sent to TV via Chromecast, then output to FOSI AUDIO amp driving my 45 year old B&O S45-2 speakers big differences. The Wharfdales were definitely more bass heavy. Compared to Fortes they sounded muddy. Fortes were better balanced and clearer. I preferred them. I've always liked the very balanced sound of my B&Os that have surprising base for an 8 inch woofer.
Wow that’s a very interesting test from phone to tv. Nice input!!!
For the price I’ll stick to my Lintons right now…
I heard more bass on the British speakers. I hate to say it, but I think they sound better without a sub.
No subs were used in the filming of this video… I never personally use subs.
Dovedale for my
Nice! Why?
Klipsch for me. But I’m not a fan of the British sound so I’m not surprised
Very interesting! Why not?
@@ThatGuyWithTheBeard I’m not typically a warm midrange kinda guy. Sometimes but not much. One reason I don’t use my vinyl much either. I like fast dynamic highly detailed sound. I have many speakers and stacks of equipment but I always end up using my Klipsch LaScalas or Klipsch Chorus 2 and my Luxman for that reason. Fast loud and in my face
Wharfdale please
Klipsch was more sanitized. Wharfdales are warmer. For me, wharfdales for emotional or longer listening… I’m a linton owner for what it’s worth.
Me as well and I agree with warmer, the accuphase probably helped that as well
Wow on my phone speaker, they sound exactly the same. Lol
Hahaha
Actually this isn't a good comparison. I know that the Forte IVs are very sensitive to placement and if they are not in the perfect place you can't really hear their potential. Also, different rooms have different acoustics so this wasn't really a very good A/B test.
Really, I wish you had started the comparison from the beginning. Otherwise I enjoy your commentary.
Thanks Charles!! Appreciate you joining the comments!
Forte all day long
Klipsch more forward-sounding. Dovedale better tonal balance.
Very interesting take! Thanks, which one you picking?
@@ThatGuyWithTheBeard Dovedale
Dovedales
Dovedale has more bass weight than Forte IV
klipsch for the win...
Thanks! Why?
@@ThatGuyWithTheBeard upper clarity with the Klipsch the Warfdale sounded a bit bass bloated.
So silly. I'm listening on my speakers. Both of yours sound just like mine. I'll keep mine.
which part is silly
Warfdales had richer and deeper bass
Great thoughts there!
Funny how the fit and finish on the cheap made in China Klipsch RP-600 is better than the Heresy made in Hope.
That’s an interesting take…
Well that don't make no sense coming from somebody that has the RP 600 and a friend has the Heresy there is no truth in that statement at all. My RF-7 III are truly built better than my RP-8000F that I run for my surrounds. That statement is almost funny. 😂
That's hardly disco, it's more like Beverly Hills Cop / Phill Collins style pop 🎶 music. Almost Paula Aubdule, Yuk
I think Lenny talks way to much.....
dovedale boooooooomy AF!
I prefer Klipsch!
Nice! Why?
😊😊😊 the Forte's definitely they have a much wider more expense in room filling sound in a much softer feel to the honestly.. but I would prefer you put on some Todd rundgren Todd album and then follow that up with Alan Parsons project tales of Michigan imagination and I could give a truer review