Toyota Mirai: Hydrogen Refueling Explained | Toyota
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- It’s remarkably easy to refill Mirai. Hydrogen refueling is a little different the refueling a gasoline vehicle, but it isn’t complicated. There’s a pump and a nozzle, with a keypad and an info screen. These modern hydrogen stations are a lot like your average gasoline station, with a few innovative perks. An in-car fuel finder app can help you find the nearest station and the hydrogen dispensers actually communicate with the vehicle to help ensure optimal filling. Mirai helps you fuel the future with confidence. Visit toyota.com/mira... learn more.
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8:43 am: "Wanna come have lunch?" "nah, sorry, gotta fuel up my car in the next state over"
@Autistic Boy lol, yes there are generators for home. I can use 60kWh of electricity from my solar panels to generate 24kWh of hydrogen (after compressing it to 10,000 psi to be able to put in the car). Then use a fuel cell that's barely 60% efficient to make it back into 14.4kWh of electricity to drive the electric motors in the car. Or I can just plug in my car at home like a toaster and put that same 60 kWh into my BEV and get 58.8kWh of electric back out to drive the motors.
@Autistic Boy What would it be the issue in the winter? Mine has been working fine for years. In fact, my wife demands to drive it in the winter because it makes heat by the end of the driveway.
@Autistic Boy What is it like driving your hydrogen car?
@@scottkolaya2110 wow, we could use other methods to make large scale hydrogen, which can be distributed cheaply(pipelines).
@@suhassuhas5320 wow, if you haven't figured out, the comments were directed against another uneducated poster who was too embarrassed to leave them up. His point was that it was so easy to generate hydrogen at home.
at least refueling with hydrogen wont take as long as electric cars recharging
Hydrogen cars are secretly electric
@@akash-zg4vj this guy talk about time take to charge
Electric cars now take around 15 minutes to recharge 300 km.
But I guess you'd rather go get some training in order to be able to recharge your car.
@@baab4229 3 hours*
@@Payro electric cars take 15 minutes to charge half of their battery. Please educate yourself a little
why the negativity folks? You are the same people a few decades ago would have been negative toward the automobile, the train , horse & buggy! It will improve and catch on just fine as EPA laws force it to & give perks for this mode of transportation ! God Speed Toyota , Wonderful !
Mitchel Crilly agree with you! I'm Ready for the future and excited to see these changes
staticxr yeah! Go mirai
Mitchel Crilly mbbnnkknnnmnkkkjkkkk
I'm excited for the Mirai but I believe government should let the free-market decide whether or not fuel cell vehicles catch on.
Craig Westbrook Hydrogen on demand
Just leased a new Mirai. When the salesman took me to the station in Santa Monica for fuel it was off line. The next day I went to the other local station in West LA and it also was not working. I hope this is not going to be the norm. I was planning a trip to San Francisco since they have a Hydrogyn station at the Harris ranch about half way there. Now I am concerned that If that station is not on line I will be stranded.
How's it going 2 years later? At the same time, I bought a Bolt EV. I haven't needed to charge it yet using public chargers since I don't travel more than 200 miles per day, I can just charge it at home.
Honestly the front isn't so bad and the fact that it is a function first design is appealing
This is more than remarkable... it's fantastic and about time... where have we been? I am now driving my fourth Prius and had I known that these would be available; I might have waited. Hat's off to Toyota and Welcome to the Twenty First Century. Stan Crowley
Did anybody else notice that the hydrogen was $14/kg in the video. The Mirai can store 5kg or $70 for 300 miles. 300 miles on a BEV is 75kWh or $10.32 worth of electricity. It doesn't cost me anything since I have solar, but not everyone does. I just looked at the current price for H2, it's $17/kg or $85 for 300 miles.
Yes, its still rare to see hydrogen stations so prices are high
@@Payro Sure and now that there are many more in CA than 2 years ago and many are made by electrolysis using 100% solar, the prices are even higher because it takes way more capital investment than people think. So much for solar bringing the price down to $1.50USD/kg. It might get cheaper if they didn't truck it all over the place with diesel trucks.
Excellent video with simple, clear instructions. Thanks for posting!
Price is that ONE variable :/ that keeps these from succeeding
Love that Toyota takes risk in an attempt to move everyone forward
that is why they are the number one car maker in the world!!!
there is no risk for them. They want to sell governments some hydrogen plants , to fuel the cars ;-) They play bigger than we think ! Building few Mirai is a gameplay for them. The goal is to sell the hydrogen plants .
I still cannot believe they have NEVER gotten these stations mainstream across the US yet! Despite we have Kenworth in the Commercial motor vehicle market getting this type of system. Im wanting to buy a Mirai but there is ZERO efforts along the US to get these installed.
80 dollars to go 300 miles? I go 500-600 in my wife's Prius for 25.00.
you get a 15K credit for first three years...
@@gregmcable Three years goes by in a heartbeat. I guess that would be an incentive for someone who drives lots.
2016 prius right ?
Yes but theoretically you could generate your own, or hydrogen cost should come down as it is derived from more and more renewable sources and as price competition increases with more stations opening up. As long as you break even from initial costs the gas can be as cheap as needed after that.
@@wastelesslearning1245 you could generate your own farts, instead. Hydrogen to generate is a different tale, as Toyota Mirai should be fueled with presurized Hydrogen , wich is not so cheap to obtain, as it is necesary a special compressor .
Am I the only one concerned about the example where only two fuel stations on their app and the 21.7 Mi one is status "unknown" while the other one is 391.1 mi away. Cruising range of 300 Mi means I can't even make it to the other station with a full tank.
saw that too lol wth?
Peter Chan The
Might have been recorded before the car was released in Claifornia, that's just a guess. Considering there are 14 open in LA now and 6 open in the bay area which is a bit closer to LA than Sacramento
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Whatever happened to the optional water-to-hydrogen converter they were selling with these cars (around 2014, I think it was)??
But still these cars need lithium batteries and as we know that lithium is a natural resource and is very limited in nature. So our next war will be on lithium because not every country has it in their natural resource. We need to find an alternative for that also.
They may use any other batteries, besides, it just like a plug in, requires a small battery only.
an ev will have a battery that will suffice for 5-15 Mirais
How much does it cost to buy hydrogen? Is it more or less than gasoline on average?
Free for the first 2 years.
Free for the first 3 years / $15K whichever comes first !! Later it could range from $10-$15 / kg. Tank will hold up to 5kg with H70 you can fill up the tank as it fills with a pressure of 10k lbs/psi.
isnt this more expensive than normal fuel.. it has capacity of 5kg and it runs less than 300miles per full charge.. based on that its 60miles/kg and its about 14$/kg so 60/14 means 4.28miles/$, you get double the mileage with gasoline.(i know its environmental friendly but not a good incentive for people to switch)
Very perfect calculation ....same i got
Yeah, it's more expensive til they figure out new ways of producing it. But don't assume it's environmentally friendly. Producing the fuel requires high energy inputs, no matter how you do it. Part of why it's so expensive. It's cleaner on the road, but when you look at life cycle, not so much. It moves the impact elsehwere, which would help decrease urban smog, but that's about it.
How much does the hydrogen cost to fill the tank? How does a hydrogen car work? How do you make hydrogen? What is the cost of the car?
What the hell took so dam long? Hydrogen Fuell Cell technology has been around since World War II ! Ballard Fuel Cells on USN submarines
Tim mckenna vb56
This technology is still not ready for the market because it uses large amounts of precious metals in the fuel cell stack to operate. There isn't enough material on the planet to replace the cars currently on the road with fuel cell vehicles. This is a huge problem that needs to be solved before fuel cells can be viable. It also doesn't help that the hydrogen needs to be compressed to almost 10,000 psi in order to get the 300 mile range that most people are used to.
@@atari7001 At least these metals, unlike lithium, can be recycled.
How ever come to Vietnam ? Thankyou
Seems like crashes are extra dangerous
It's great that it's a zero emissions fuel, but it hurts to watch all of the steps vs using a Tesla Supercharger. Also, you're still stuck having to use a station to refuel your vehicle versus charging at home with electricity. Hydrogen would probably be a better use case for long-haul (OTR) trucks.
H35 is a Hose Type, but H70 is a Trigger Type.
H35 is 35Mpa, and H70 is 70
300 miles is good range....
its pronounced me-rah-ee not murri
i dont think this can ever catch on. interesting idea though
+About 47 T-Rexes I beg to differ. The way they are rolling out this technology is straight out of the corporate centralized oil cartels play books. They are putting these hydrogen fuel cell vehicles on the market but purposely making the fuel scarce by installing a very small amount of refueling stations sponsored by the corporate oil cartel.
Who wants to purchase a fuel cell vehicle when there is next to no stations? Plug in electric seems to be the most logical alternative right now and for good reason but battery powered electric vehicles have many drawbacks, expenses and issues that Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles solve. Only problem is the limited access to the hydrogen gas.
That will change in due time. Hydrogen can be created onsite and on demand using electroyzer technology. Honestly they could build an off grid hydrogen fuel refinery straight into these vehicles. Just add water and electricity and you literally make your own fuel for the car. The electricity can come from grid or renewables such as solar and with new electrolyzer technologies pumping out efficiencies 80 percent and above its practical, logical, and competitive with plug in electric vehicles. All the issues of yesteryear of needing to store the gas in ultra high pressure tanks to obtain the energy density to drive 300+ miles before refueling has been solved,very cheaply i might add with some of the polymer based hydride storage technologies now.
A corporate sponsored centralized hydrogen infrastructure is not needed. This is the lie they have fed the general public. The problem is engineering this tech for decentralized use. They are not ready to give up their power yet but its inevitable.
Where i am located in NC they have built dozens of massive multi acre solar farms all around me spreading across hundreds of miles of the state and every single one of them is pushing the electricity the farm generates back to a centralized power grid. These have been built in the span of just a couple of years. Each one of these farms could potentially become a small on demand on site hydrogen fueling station for locals around the area. The entire process could be automated and safe. No delivery logistics needed which drives operating cost way down. These types of setups could also be engineered to be installed right at the home of the vehicles owner, eliminating the need to go anywhere to fuel up. This tech has advanced on so many levels. Its now cheap, safe and efficient. The problem is and always has been that its a game changer to put that type of freedom and power in the hands of the average joes. H2 fuel cell tech is much better than plug in battery tech by leaps and bounds. Abundant sources of H2 gas is not as much of an issue as they have led all of us to believe. We just have to educate ourselves and demand alternatives to the idea of needing to replace the entire infrastructure slowly to accommodate and supply demand. No piping in or transporting of this fuel is needed no where on the planet.
I own this car and I love it! My freeway work commute is 36 mile roundtrip and the past ten weeks have been a breeze. Here in California, we had 12 stations online when I bought the car in April. It's July and there are twenty open stations. True Zero is one of the companies involved in rolling out the infrastructure. I met the founder at a green mobility conference this past week, and he's definitely not with any oil cartel. Right now, 95% of the hydrogen made in the USA comes from natural gas reforming, but the wind and solar power generation to make electrolysis more competitive is improving rapidly. Keep an eye on Solar Roadways as they begin working with the State of Missouri on highways made of drivable solar panels, starting with a section of Route 66. And of course you've been to the Hydrogen House website, right? I am so proud of California's leadership in passing AB8 and helping to fund the hydrogen infrastructure.
This has been in planning for over a decade now, and hydrogen fuel cell technology for even longer. One thing's for sure, the commitment by these companies is undeniable. The number of hydrogen fueling stations is increasing at a slow rate, but it will increase more as we go along, and costs have been and will continue to drop. I think this will take time, but it will eventually catch on.
JdC, where do you live in North Carolina? We're in Oxford NC and they are building some very large solar farms all around us the countryside. Hope something productive and affordable comes out of these "green" energy systems. You have written so well about this issue, I have to ask what do you do for a living?
intresting 1
I wait hours for gas horrible plus the nozzle freezes on leaving you stranded
The cost is main reason hydrogent car doesnt apear
Hindenburg on wheels?
its not different than That flammable liquid sitting inside of your fuel tank. Or the EV battery with liquid acid. It all is dangerous. we just accept that it is a fact of life. so drive safe.
Wait you haven’t shown the hours we spend waiting in line as we chase gas and the nozzle freezing onto the car
NIGHTMARE CAR
Oh come on. There are too many left-side fuel outlets on the cars running on the roads now.
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true.
What's wrong with left side? Then I don't have to walk around my car. What's the problem?
Koren
До первого взрыва, когда снесет несколько кварталов.
500 thousand hydrogen stations
6.11.21
Hydrogene is a pretty dangerous fuel. Just remember the Hindenburg airship. What if a car like that gets into a crash incident? That might be hell, no doubt. I'd prefer li-ion powered car like tesla s instead
That was Helium and Hydrogen gas.
@@ShidaiTaino It was designed for Helium, but because of it's short supply, they used 100% hydrogen instead and the rest, of course, is history.
Jesus Christ just go battery electric
these cars are electric cars lol
@@Brian-jv8iy yea electric cars minus all the convenience
Stupid, over complicated idea when electric cars work great.
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Yea hydrogen is a bad idea for something as handy as cars. Electric cars are simple.
It's an electric car
Ugly car,
Piece of junk has was water in it's exausts
after some time will rust , I guess !
i was wondering whether its possible to drive off when the hydrogen is still recharging,... this is something that has happened with gas cars,.. i'm assuming they made it so that u cant start the car when its refueling; is that accurate? also im curious as to what happens in the event the car is immersed in water,.. natural disaster type of thing?
You have to use your phone to find refueling stations?! I don't own a phone!
Haha and thinking to buy a car