@@cherylstevens4717she basically did. She decorated their houses for free as a repayment and when leane fell into financial trouble she then forgot dawn did that and wanted money. Im sorry but leanes a scumbag u can tell
From everything that I’ve read, I think that Leanne and Wes borrowed the Wards the £500,000 and when it came to paying it back Dawn and Ash couldn’t pay it so instead Dawn offered her interior design services to the Brown’s for free to try and pay the debt off. What I think happened after that is that Leanne and Wes ended up having some financial difficulties (I’ve read that they bought 6 houses and they’re the houses that Dawn decorated and the business plan ended up failing) so they ended up asking for the money back of the Wards and because Dawn had already worked for free to pay her debts off they wouldn’t pay the Brown’s back. In my opinion, I would do the same as Dawn because if I’ve offered my services for free and you’ve accepted that as debt repayment then why then when you suddenly start saying you want the money why should I have to pay the same debt twice? As for Leanne being so emotional, I think that boils down to the fact her and her husband was financially struggling and her being frustrated that Dawn wouldn’t just hand the money over. This is my opinion so don’t come for me, this is just what I’VE gathered from everything.
Yeah, I've read similar. I always got the impression it was more between the men though and the women were dragged along. 500k is a lot of interior designing, as well. End of day it's all about greed gone wrong isn't it. And confirms anyone should be careful mixing money and friendship!!
You wouldn’t think that any of these people would be struggling for money would you ? With the way they live and spend, I thought they earn a lot between them, Dawn and ash !! ?
Quite telling that Wes is now bankrupt after property dealings went bad, to be fair Leanne Dawn was stood over you, you came over and followed her when she walked away
Never liked LeeAnne but I think she's in the right here. I do believe Dawn has fu**ed her over in some way. When Tanya said now's your chance to clear your name I think she was actually trying to help Dawn. I believe she was hinting now's the time to tell LeAnne what you told me etc and explain why you haven't done/paid back what you were supposed to. Tell LeAnne the truth and hopefully you can speak it through. In other words Tanya knows why (because Dawn told her why) and was trying to guide Dawn to open up and tell LeAnne. I can understand Dawn's frustration though as this should have been discussed in private. Either way for the first time ever I'm team LeAnne. That's a complete first for me. Plus bring back Ampika!!
Sorry I’m so late but dawn paid back her debts with Leanne in the form of dawns interior design company designing 6 houses that the Browns wanted to sell. But because the houses was not selling, Leanne wanted her money back, but the agreement was that she paid off her debt with her interior design which dawn did. Leanne and Wes was having financial difficulties and that’s where all the emotion from Leanne comes from
I feel like Leanne was almost in love with Dawn (not necessarily sexually) which turned into obsession and hatred. I’ve never even been close to feeling anything like that intensely and been so emotional over any friendship, except for when I was about 14/15 years old. So bizarre. “You broke me!” I mean that’s what you’d say to an ex!
It's the hold that a very very manipulative person has on some. Watch how on the earlier series certain women could fight dawns battles whilst she says absolutely nothing
Dimpled Sunflower you’re right. I live in an exclusive area except I’m one of the few renters but I have been here for years as the education and opportunities is better for children. All of my children have only been to one school their entire lives and that’s what I had wanted. So the behaviour of people (atleast in public) is good, polite etc, it’s all 2 parents homes, nice parks, clean... BUT we don’t have a flash car like all the others but we atleast own “not flash/old” vehicles outright and don’t owe money on them and aren’t in massive debt trying to keep up with other wealthy ppl. So you are SPOT ON about rich ppl borrowing and trying to have a certain lifestyle. Though it’s good to live adjacent to the wealthy as it’s safer. Usually. Fingers crossed haha.
I think Dawn is misunderstood a lot of the time. She stands up for what she believes in but she doesn’t always know how to control her emotions. Leanne walked over and then Tanya purposely escalated the situation. Dawn defended herself but nobody was really listening to each other or ready to understand each other’s viewpoint. Tanya is definitely manipulative and more calculating than Dawn because she’s sneaky whereas Dawn will be more direct.
This is the real Dawn Ward right here. Always blaming everyone else but herself. Making Leanne out to be the bad girl and throwing Tanya under the bus. It's sad that it's taken five seasons for Leanne to wake up and see Dawn for who she truly is.
And don't forget this. The earlier series was 60% real unlike now that's 100% not. Dawn is desperate to get away from this drama with the stolen money, as we see on the show recently. Tanya knows, that's why there's tension between her and Tanya that never gets explained
Leanne is just as horrid. She was so up Dawn’s behind and using Dawn’s fights with others to create her own issues with them-the way she treated Magali was awful and then she ended up being as “aggressive” as she accused Magali of being. She and Dawn are equally yoked
@@iyamideolukoshi9936 Was about to comment this, but you beat me to it. She was the one who instigated and caused problems between Dawn and Magali. She even had the nerve to moan that Dawn was not backing her whilst she went after Magali to which Dawns response was that Leanne had done so of her own accord. If you remember she continued causing beef between the two into the following season. I think she was jealous and did not want them to form a friendship at all.
@@iyamideolukoshi9936 OMT she did the same thing with Ampika, until she fell out with Dawn, that when she slithered over to become Ampika's friend, only that seemed to fly over Ampika's head
@@TN-ie8kd EXACTLY! She was fine with who Dawn was until it turned against her. She was nasty to Magali and now she wanted everyone on her side against Dawn after being Dawn’s attack dog for ages.Dawn replaced her rapidly with Misse as her new lapdog 🤣🤣 She did the same with Ampika too
circle smurckle sure. Dawn and Leeane were best friends and apparently Dawn borrowed money from Leeane and her husband. They are fighting because Dawn hasn't paid the money back to Leeane. That's the main reason why they are at odds, dawn feels leeane is fighting with her to show people she is her own person and leeane feels dawn is controlling.
i think what happened was wes gave ash and dawn the 500k , but when it came to paying it back , dawn and ash couldnt , so dawn offered her business for free . wes and leanne took it , but were having financial problems . i believe they bought 6 houses ? and then the business failed , so wes and leanne were asking dawn and ash to pay them the 500k , again . i personally am on dawns side , as she 's already given her business which wouldve been worth over 500k anyway , so why should she have to pay another 500k because wes and leanne messed it up ?? this is what i think has happened anyway , not 100% sure .
The nerve of them replacing a reunion for this season with a cheesy "at home with..." episode was a TRAVESTY, a missed opportunity. If there was ever a season that needed a reunion episode, it was Season 5! 😒
If you accept something ie lieu of payment you cant demand the money aswell, if it was a simple loan thats different, no one knows the whole story so Tanya should butt out
Wes bankruptcy brought me here.... What a shame.i seen west brown on a lads holiday in tenerife around 2010 . He was dressed well but I wouldn't say he was throwing money around being extravagant .. down to earth he was a local gorton lad and went to burnage high school . Humble beginnings
Leanne is really jealous of dawn you can tell that. Just because she isnt happy with her own life she has to try and bring someone else down..I really like dawn shes real. She isnt fake she tells it how it is..why would she do something like that when shes got her own businesses home etc.
Leanne was a behaving like a child with the tantrums and gaining support in order to isolate Dawn. I didn't like how Tanya got involved amd stuck her nose in by being nasty to Dawn as I thought they got on. Leanne is a gaslighter and her tears didn't fool me. If there was an issue relating to business she should have dealt with it professionally and away from the camera. Who wokld want to do business with Leanne seeing how she canteen it together. I wouldn't trust her at all.
Plot twist... Dawn did work on Leanne's house and Leanne tried to get out of paying for the work, expected it for free, so Dawn hashes out a plan to "borrow" money, from Wes and Leanne, to the value of the works done and get paid that way. Now Leanne crying that Dawn is a tea leaf.
you know what Dawn is a what she's about so you don't need to keep on talking to her don't you see any time and you person that comes to the group she likes to check everybody underneath the bus and then she go to that new person I want a new person come to the group she tell them this unless you tell them that just like what she done with Esther don't you see Dawn like who she can control and who she can't control she don't like Dawn is the biggest sell out as a friend on this housewife
Here we go Leanne making her big entrance with dawn. Tanya getting involved again why don't you Tanya put that time in to your kids and be a good mother instead of leaving your kids at every opportunity. Leanne you stick to stripping Tanya you stick to minding your business.
“I don’t need to clear my name, what d’you think I am? A murderer?” 😂😂😂 I don’t know why but Dawns delivery always makes me piss myself laughing 😂😂😂
They’re all murderers they murdered the party !
What about when she says “man with his dog”, lol 🤪😂😈
@@leonardssenkindu8445 Dawn ought to pay leanne and wes back the money
They wouldn’t do a reunion this series because of how bad the tension was between Ampika Dawn Leanne. Dawn nearly left the show altogether
@@cherylstevens4717she basically did. She decorated their houses for free as a repayment and when leane fell into financial trouble she then forgot dawn did that and wanted money. Im sorry but leanes a scumbag u can tell
Don't borrow money to mates or make business deals with them .....
True
We don’t know who is telling the truth
Doesn't matter, friend shouldn't do that
or family
Lend, not borrow.
The background music gives me life 😂😂😂😂
Lol, when they music over them arguing and fighting, I laugh, some of them music, lol 😂😈
Something out of a superhero film. 💀
I remember watching this for the first time and my smile almost stretched off my face when Leanne pushed Dawns hand out of her face 😂
Yeh but I'm glad Dawn walked away as can you imagine Ass Leanne if Dawn had if rag dolled her! I'm telling you now I would have. X
Didn’t Dawn beat Simin Cowells Sinita back the day
Jay Ro apparently so 😂 punched her lights out apparently
Hang on you can’t say someone is standing over me when you’re the one following them and not stopping.
Here we go Leanne you really do get on my nerves.
Just tell dawn instead of going round everybody else.
Darby is the spitting image of her mum x
She isn't she is the image of her dad....Taylor looks like dawn
Rough!
“Every man with his dog”, that’s so old fashion, lol 😂😈
I love it! Good old British sayings....wish we heard them more often.
@@DunhillX1What did dawn mean when she said every man and his dog?
@@CherylStevens-g8k The dog is for emphasis. There are no more people to tell so Leanne is telling the dogs as well.
From everything that I’ve read, I think that Leanne and Wes borrowed the Wards the £500,000 and when it came to paying it back Dawn and Ash couldn’t pay it so instead Dawn offered her interior design services to the Brown’s for free to try and pay the debt off. What I think happened after that is that Leanne and Wes ended up having some financial difficulties (I’ve read that they bought 6 houses and they’re the houses that Dawn decorated and the business plan ended up failing) so they ended up asking for the money back of the Wards and because Dawn had already worked for free to pay her debts off they wouldn’t pay the Brown’s back. In my opinion, I would do the same as Dawn because if I’ve offered my services for free and you’ve accepted that as debt repayment then why then when you suddenly start saying you want the money why should I have to pay the same debt twice? As for Leanne being so emotional, I think that boils down to the fact her and her husband was financially struggling and her being frustrated that Dawn wouldn’t just hand the money over. This is my opinion so don’t come for me, this is just what I’VE gathered from everything.
100%
Yeah, I've read similar. I always got the impression it was more between the men though and the women were dragged along. 500k is a lot of interior designing, as well. End of day it's all about greed gone wrong isn't it. And confirms anyone should be careful mixing money and friendship!!
Leant ! You lend , they borrow😅
You wouldn’t think that any of these people would be struggling for money would you ? With the way they live and spend, I thought they earn a lot between them, Dawn and ash !! ?
Quite telling that Wes is now bankrupt after property dealings went bad, to be fair Leanne Dawn was stood over you, you came over and followed her when she walked away
lol . Tanya's face at the end.
Never liked LeeAnne but I think she's in the right here. I do believe Dawn has fu**ed her over in some way. When Tanya said now's your chance to clear your name I think she was actually trying to help Dawn. I believe she was hinting now's the time to tell LeAnne what you told me etc and explain why you haven't done/paid back what you were supposed to. Tell LeAnne the truth and hopefully you can speak it through. In other words Tanya knows why (because Dawn told her why) and was trying to guide Dawn to open up and tell LeAnne. I can understand Dawn's frustration though as this should have been discussed in private. Either way for the first time ever I'm team LeAnne. That's a complete first for me. Plus bring back Ampika!!
Tanya was definitely not trying to help Dawn. She’s never had Dawn’s back but she just pretends she does.
Everything you said except the team Leanne bit. She's fake
Sorry I’m so late but dawn paid back her debts with Leanne in the form of dawns interior design company designing 6 houses that the Browns wanted to sell. But because the houses was not selling, Leanne wanted her money back, but the agreement was that she paid off her debt with her interior design which dawn did. Leanne and Wes was having financial difficulties and that’s where all the emotion from Leanne comes from
Felt bad for Darby to be stood there and witness her mother being hammered at, bless her!
Just love Dawn.....be a no show without her...
I feel like Leanne was almost in love with Dawn (not necessarily sexually) which turned into obsession and hatred. I’ve never even been close to feeling anything like that intensely and been so emotional over any friendship, except for when I was about 14/15 years old. So bizarre. “You broke me!” I mean that’s what you’d say to an ex!
Friends can break you too
Being firm friends for over a decade, dwindling half a million from Leanne, and then acting like she’s delusion can ‘break’ someone.
Dawn’s a thieving bitch
It's the hold that a very very manipulative person has on some. Watch how on the earlier series certain women could fight dawns battles whilst she says absolutely nothing
Leanne wanted to be Dawn. Leanne always have her puddle "Tania" fighting for her🤦🏾♀️
I don't get it. They all have loads of money in the bank. Millions. Every cast member. Why borrow more?
Most millionaires are broke...other people's money makes em rich...what I've learnt
Dimpled Sunflower you’re right. I live in an exclusive area except I’m one of the few renters but I have been here for years as the education and opportunities is better for children. All of my children have only been to one school their entire lives and that’s what I had wanted. So the behaviour of people (atleast in public) is good, polite etc, it’s all 2 parents homes, nice parks, clean... BUT we don’t have a flash car like all the others but we atleast own “not flash/old” vehicles outright and don’t owe money on them and aren’t in massive debt trying to keep up with other wealthy ppl. So you are SPOT ON about rich ppl borrowing and trying to have a certain lifestyle.
Though it’s good to live adjacent to the wealthy as it’s safer. Usually. Fingers crossed haha.
The majority of these wives are not in the slightest bit rich at all, it's all for show lol
They don't have millions in cash. They have assets and businesses and credit cards/loans.
I think Dawn is misunderstood a lot of the time. She stands up for what she believes in but she doesn’t always know how to control her emotions. Leanne walked over and then Tanya purposely escalated the situation. Dawn defended herself but nobody was really listening to each other or ready to understand each other’s viewpoint. Tanya is definitely manipulative and more calculating than Dawn because she’s sneaky whereas Dawn will be more direct.
Leanne was not innocent, i think she was jealous of Dawn tbh
This is the real Dawn Ward right here. Always blaming everyone else but herself. Making Leanne out to be the bad girl and throwing Tanya under the bus. It's sad that it's taken five seasons for Leanne to wake up and see Dawn for who she truly is.
And don't forget this. The earlier series was 60% real unlike now that's 100% not.
Dawn is desperate to get away from this drama with the stolen money, as we see on the show recently. Tanya knows, that's why there's tension between her and Tanya that never gets explained
Leanne is just as horrid. She was so up Dawn’s behind and using Dawn’s fights with others to create her own issues with them-the way she treated Magali was awful and then she ended up being as “aggressive” as she accused Magali of being. She and Dawn are equally yoked
@@iyamideolukoshi9936 Was about to comment this, but you beat me to it. She was the one who instigated and caused problems between Dawn and Magali. She even had the nerve to moan that Dawn was not backing her whilst she went after Magali to which Dawns response was that Leanne had done so of her own accord. If you remember she continued causing beef between the two into the following season. I think she was jealous and did not want them to form a friendship at all.
@@iyamideolukoshi9936 OMT she did the same thing with Ampika, until she fell out with Dawn, that when she slithered over to become Ampika's friend, only that seemed to fly over Ampika's head
@@TN-ie8kd EXACTLY! She was fine with who Dawn was until it turned against her. She was nasty to Magali and now she wanted everyone on her side against Dawn after being Dawn’s attack dog for ages.Dawn replaced her rapidly with Misse as her new lapdog 🤣🤣 She did the same with Ampika too
I can’t believe Leanne was swearing infront of Dawn’s daughter, lol 😂😈
I thought darby would stick up for her mum.
Iconic
Nathan Michael can you explain what leanne and dawns beef is/was? Im late to this party but starting to get into Cheshire
circle smurckle sure. Dawn and Leeane were best friends and apparently Dawn borrowed money from Leeane and her husband. They are fighting because Dawn hasn't paid the money back to Leeane. That's the main reason why they are at odds, dawn feels leeane is fighting with her to show people she is her own person and leeane feels dawn is controlling.
Nathan Michael omg for real!? Just pay her back ffs. Thanks for replying appreciate it!
Dawn is a little scary but she just gets defensive it seems. I think she's a softy inside
Nathan Michael I’m late to the party as well but I’m really getting into these Cheshire birds. I absolutely LOVE dawn
I remember i met leanne in my town and i asked for a picture and she was so kind and we got one
Leanne didn’t have a story line she was feeding off of QUEEN DAWN
Did dawn take half a million quid of Wes and Leanne or not if she did pay it back if she didn't what is Leanne going on about
i think what happened was wes gave ash and dawn the 500k , but when it came to paying it back , dawn and ash couldnt , so dawn offered her business for free . wes and leanne took it , but were having financial problems . i believe they bought 6 houses ? and then the business failed , so wes and leanne were asking dawn and ash to pay them the 500k , again . i personally am on dawns side , as she 's already given her business which wouldve been worth over 500k anyway , so why should she have to pay another 500k because wes and leanne messed it up ?? this is what i think has happened anyway , not 100% sure .
@@ollsparro spot on. Leanne accepted the offer. It's not Dawn's fault, the houses couldn't sell. Dawn is 100% in the right here.
If there was a real lawyers thing they would not b allowed to speak 😂
Darby is beautiful just like her mum and sisters.
Where’s ester when you need her
You’ve said “this is the real Dawn Ward” too many times now
You have took the piss since you have met us?both families went on holiday together didn't dawn design Wes and Leanne's house?
That's what I heard
The nerve of them replacing a reunion for this season with a cheesy "at home with..." episode was a TRAVESTY, a missed opportunity. If there was ever a season that needed a reunion episode, it was Season 5! 😒
Team dawn
Dawn is a salford girl through and through
I really understand both sides but if someone comes to you for help. Don't use it as a weapon.
If you accept something ie lieu of payment you cant demand the money aswell, if it was a simple loan thats different, no one knows the whole story so Tanya should butt out
Why does this channel still have so few subs 😂
Cos it's shit.
‘Wow wow’ ok Ramona
Wes bankruptcy brought me here....
What a shame.i seen west brown on a lads holiday in tenerife around 2010 . He was dressed well but I wouldn't say he was throwing money around being extravagant .. down to earth he was a local gorton lad and went to burnage high school . Humble beginnings
Leanne is really jealous of dawn you can tell that. Just because she isnt happy with her own life she has to try and bring someone else down..I really like dawn shes real. She isnt fake she tells it how it is..why would she do something like that when shes got her own businesses home etc.
I really doubt Leanne being jelous lol I mean the girls got it all?! I like dawn but I do believe she has used people to get too the top
@Leonard Ssenkindu lol prove?
@@mrsweetscottyd7890 what exactly does Leanne have that Dawn doesn't?!? Leanne only has a nice house because of Dawn for starters. I mean please...
Here you come old Billy jokers
Ps Tanya’s dress is a primary 1 tinfoil project
Primark
Dawn Ward needs a rain chq 😂 won’t happen hubby gave her money 💰
They got the same hairstyles
warrior l well i guess thats one thing you could point out😂👀 hair is hair i guess
Leanne was a behaving like a child with the tantrums and gaining support in order to isolate Dawn. I didn't like how Tanya got involved amd stuck her nose in by being nasty to Dawn as I thought they got on. Leanne is a gaslighter and her tears didn't fool me. If there was an issue relating to business she should have dealt with it professionally and away from the camera. Who wokld want to do business with Leanne seeing how she canteen it together. I wouldn't trust her at all.
Never was a fan of Leanne
Dawn and Ashley are worth millions....why would she take a few grand off trashy leann
Plot twist... Dawn did work on Leanne's house and Leanne tried to get out of paying for the work, expected it for free, so Dawn hashes out a plan to "borrow" money, from Wes and Leanne, to the value of the works done and get paid that way. Now Leanne crying that Dawn is a tea leaf.
you know what Dawn is a what she's about so you don't need to keep on talking to her don't you see any time and you person that comes to the group she likes to check everybody underneath the bus and then she go to that new person I want a new person come to the group she tell them this unless you tell them that just like what she done with Esther don't you see Dawn like who she can control and who she can't control she don't like Dawn is the biggest sell out as a friend on this housewife
Esther is a two timing money grabbing liar and not innocent
😮
Donnn insoportable
It’s funny how they all dress and act like teenagers
Here we go Leanne making her big entrance with dawn.
Tanya getting involved again why don't you Tanya put that time in to your kids and be a good mother instead of leaving your kids at every opportunity.
Leanne you stick to stripping Tanya you stick to minding your business.
Leanne.....I'm disgusting...??? I'm disgusting????
Erm....yep....100%
Lol
Nah it's all bs I reckon.
Dawn is evil
No dawn isn't evil
I think she has npd
These arguments are dumb
Gosh, Dawn is too much!
Dawn back off I am leanne and Tanya friend