Lol i loved the finish with misha's ult 13:51 it felt like he was looking at the turn order in his pocket watch/compass and panicked at the amount of cycles left 😂
I love seeing the 4* Doing the EndGames, and it's good to see Misha this time. Misha's Freeze is really good, if you have all the Traces Activated, you have a 100% Chance to Apply it and gain 60% Effect Hit, and even more so since it's 10 Hits, it's almost certain that you'll freeze.
I like that Aventurine has his own mechanics, probably true to his gambling nature. But it’s a purely single target boss, with mechanics that requires AoE to not get screwed by rng.
(In story it at least) works perfectly Or if the original version got into apocalyptic shadow if it didn't have time restraints Save up attacking ults or spend buffing ultsbefore the gamble phase goes off, then use the ults to almost guarantee the win
I still am amazed by how devs made Misha's kit. Like, imagine yeeting enemies with a mop, lmao. And his burst of luggage collapsing at them is just so goofy
I just spent around 2 hours and 68 attempts trying to 3* this with a Yanqing hypercarry team for the 2nd stage and I'm pretty sure 80% of the resets were due to RNG, be it Yanqing not doing his extra attack when he needed to, March 7 not freezing on his ult or Aventurine not targeting M7 for the dice phase even though she had a taunt.
And about your question at the start, no, his dice mechanic is so annoying that the best way to deal with him is to just break/freeze so you have to engage with it the least as possible, otherwise you're just at mercy from RNG and that's not good design for a boss IMO.
That's some dedications with Yanqing! I agree his FUA should be guarantee with a shield/not losing HP or something like that. Aventurine boss has freeze resist so that's another layer of RNG. Yes, too much RNG on this boss especially in phase 2, he just keep gambling non-stop. Freezing him indeed one of the best strategy
Dude i have seen your video play misha against Aven boss in very previous MoC, and That's really Outstanding Let me help you inform about Misha Frozen Chance(because you asking the same in that very previous MoC too). So Misha has 20% Base chance in Ult. On Trace 3 he has 80%, then it makes her Ult has 100% Base Chance, but it's still possible Aven can resist it. The one that makes Misha's Frozen powerful is, his Trace 2 has 60% Effect Hit Rate which is quite high, and that 60% works independently for every Misha ultimate hit. So it's like you got 10 stack Ult, so his Ultimate hit 10 times and you just need 1 hit to make Aven Frozen. There's no way Aven can escape 10-hit Frozen Inflict with that chance.
Thanks for the info! Let me try to calculate the freeze chance. It's 11 hits with E1, I also added 10% EHR from Pela. Formula = base chance * (1+EHR) * (1-Effect resist) * 0.5 (CC resist) For the first hit: 1 * 1.7 * 0.6 * 0.5 = 51% For the 2nd to 11th hit: 0.2 * 1.7 * 0.6 * 0.5 = 10% - all 10 hits non-freeze = (1-10%) ^10 = 35% Freeze chance = 51% + 49% x (1 - 35%) = 83%
I felt that on the DDD comment. Hoyo might be intentionally holding it for a banner they feel won't perform as well? I'm stuck with S2 DDD since forever thanks to rng 😢
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For that question in the beginning, id say yes hes a good boss gameplay wise, just that he has way higher stats that he probably should, hp is fine cuz well ipc and preservation stuff but, cc and energy drain would justify an atk decrease at least i think. The losing gamble I'd say should only be high dmg no imprison or medium dmg imprison, then again, it is incredibly powerful if you win so i guess its fine(?)
Aventurine boss is a complicated topic imo Its desing and moveset it's good Until we get to the dice, the dice is a shitty rng mechanic that can ruin a run easily
I think Misha (E6) being strong is reasonably fair, he is literally someone important 😅 But seriously now I think Aventurine boss is a pain, I used the firefly premium team to pass it (HMC E6, Firefly E1S1, Ruan mei E0S1, Gallagher E6), certainly my gallagher E6 with 240 Break Effect helped to leave Aventurine broken sometimes but in the end I passed with only 1 cycle left (I almost didn't make it!)
A clear is a clear! Congrats! Team investment matters a lot in term of cycle count. And the second half has fire resistance which make your team does less damage. I agree, Aventurine is always a pain
Amazing, Misha performs better than my Jingliu here and I'd say in general for ST combat. Do you think Sushang would perform similarly here or not really?
i think 4 stars with full eidolons should be better honestly, you barely made it while having amazing stats on them and full eidolons, I wish 4 stars would be better honestly. It makes no sense that on one side 4 stars should be options for free to play yet you have barely reccources so building them is mostly a waste of reccources sadly since they can only clear endgame with E6 und perfect gear
Yes, I did ask myself the same question. The biggest diff between 4 star and 5 star character are the Harmony characters (and their eidolons). There are not really a huge diff between a 4 star and 5 star damage dealer, maybe except Acheron. A lot of 0 cycle clears you found on YT are without sustain, they would automatically drop to 2-3 cycles with sustain, which is slightly better than a 4-5 cycles with 4 stars only. Outside of YT, people are probably just cleared with 9 or 10 cycles even with many 5 stars, due to investment they put on their character (relics, LC, eidolons, etc) Sometimes I want the game to make stronger 4 stars but on the other hand, it won't be any challenge if we have a 4 star Robin for example, but yes, it would be great for the players
"Maybe I can use Sparkle in Phase 2" then I see Aventurine lol, guess maybe I can use Ruan Mei instead 🤔 but then she won't be able to break as fast as Hanya lol
5 star Harmony doesn't have much attack ability, so they usually have a hard time when facing Aventurine. I recommend to have at least 147 spd on them or bring a strong sustain
I would say lvl 8, need 3 skills usage from teammate to get 5 energy. 5 energy from using ult, 30 from skill, 60 from Tingyun, total of 100. Or lvl 10, need 5 skills usage to get 10 energy
Personally i think it would be a nice change if during the dice phase, a portion of the damage you deal to the dice will also be dealt to aventurine so it makes things less annoying, the intervals between when he'll enter the dice phase in phase 2 is also really short First half was literal CC pain, i had to try 4 different teams just to overcome the CC problem 😭 I managed to clear first half with a ratio robin team and second half with a firefly team. First half went okay because robin is just OP but second half was really annoying and I had to watch Ruan Mei get slammed continuously during the dice phase. Aventurine's rng mechanics is really annoying not to mention his crazy damage on top of that
yes, Aventurine punishes Harmony characters real hard. While being a single target boss and force you to bring AoE characters at the same time. Phase 2 is a nightmare for sure if your team can't win gamble. Congrats on your clear! 😉
Theres also relic issues, look at his relic and compare to yours especially the wind set. Endgame is more like 20% skill 80% stats, the game hardly need skills. So you need to look at what stats you lack
@@omega6826 You did not just say that in a video of 4 stars only where the 121 crit dmg misha kills the tankiest boss in the game. It's 70% strategy and knowledge, 30% investment (not even stats directly like other games)
Maybe I will try Dan Heng again. How to avoid/delay gamble strategy:
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Lol i loved the finish with misha's ult 13:51 it felt like he was looking at the turn order in his pocket watch/compass and panicked at the amount of cycles left 😂
very accurate!
I appreciate you posting the builds and clears that you referenced. Lets other people know about great HSR players.
I love seeing the 4* Doing the EndGames, and it's good to see Misha this time.
Misha's Freeze is really good, if you have all the Traces Activated, you have a 100% Chance to Apply it and gain 60% Effect Hit, and even more so since it's 10 Hits, it's almost certain that you'll freeze.
Glad you liked it! Right, Misha's freeze is very consistent during my retries
I like that Aventurine has his own mechanics, probably true to his gambling nature. But it’s a purely single target boss, with mechanics that requires AoE to not get screwed by rng.
(In story it at least) works perfectly
Or if the original version got into apocalyptic shadow if it didn't have time restraints
Save up attacking ults or spend buffing ultsbefore the gamble phase goes off, then use the ults to almost guarantee the win
I still am amazed by how devs made Misha's kit. Like, imagine yeeting enemies with a mop, lmao. And his burst of luggage collapsing at them is just so goofy
The Luggage Lord
King of 4 stars is back with another banger! Keep cooking 🔥🔥🔥
Hace tiempo no veía a Misha, me alegro de volver a verlo, me encantan tus videos 💜💜 good job
¡Gracias! Misha es perfecta para la pelea del jefe.
Getting E6 HTB is actually so hard, clearing out Penacony like I'm a dusting maid
True, e4 is a great stopping point, e6 is a little more consistent
It took me 13+ hours 💀💀
HTB?
@@Haiiset yes unfortunately
@@Haiiset Harmony Trailblazer , or some people called it Harmony MC ( HMC)
I just spent around 2 hours and 68 attempts trying to 3* this with a Yanqing hypercarry team for the 2nd stage and I'm pretty sure 80% of the resets were due to RNG, be it Yanqing not doing his extra attack when he needed to, March 7 not freezing on his ult or Aventurine not targeting M7 for the dice phase even though she had a taunt.
And about your question at the start, no, his dice mechanic is so annoying that the best way to deal with him is to just break/freeze so you have to engage with it the least as possible, otherwise you're just at mercy from RNG and that's not good design for a boss IMO.
That's some dedications with Yanqing! I agree his FUA should be guarantee with a shield/not losing HP or something like that. Aventurine boss has freeze resist so that's another layer of RNG.
Yes, too much RNG on this boss especially in phase 2, he just keep gambling non-stop. Freezing him indeed one of the best strategy
Dude i have seen your video play misha against Aven boss in very previous MoC, and That's really Outstanding
Let me help you inform about Misha Frozen Chance(because you asking the same in that very previous MoC too).
So Misha has 20% Base chance in Ult. On Trace 3 he has 80%, then it makes her Ult has 100% Base Chance, but it's still possible Aven can resist it. The one that makes Misha's Frozen powerful is, his Trace 2 has 60% Effect Hit Rate which is quite high, and that 60% works independently for every Misha ultimate hit.
So it's like you got 10 stack Ult, so his Ultimate hit 10 times and you just need 1 hit to make Aven Frozen. There's no way Aven can escape 10-hit Frozen Inflict with that chance.
Thanks for the info! Let me try to calculate the freeze chance. It's 11 hits with E1, I also added 10% EHR from Pela.
Formula = base chance * (1+EHR) * (1-Effect resist) * 0.5 (CC resist)
For the first hit: 1 * 1.7 * 0.6 * 0.5 = 51%
For the 2nd to 11th hit: 0.2 * 1.7 * 0.6 * 0.5 = 10%
- all 10 hits non-freeze = (1-10%) ^10 = 35%
Freeze chance = 51% + 49% x (1 - 35%) = 83%
So happy rn seeing someone not forget misha and luka ❤
Awesome! 🙌
I felt that on the DDD comment. Hoyo might be intentionally holding it for a banner they feel won't perform as well? I'm stuck with S2 DDD since forever thanks to rng 😢
I was on the same boat with S2 DDD, I did got 2 more in v2.0. But it was a mistake to make it to S4 instead of leveling up two instead
@@WeiForever I feel the same tbh. I'd rather have two S1 DDDs than one S2 because of just how necessary it is in both sides
very demure, very mindful, very cutesy
nice Wei 🙌👌
Cheers! 🍷🍷
Ahhh the refreshed mind control was so sad on luka 😭Very nice run tho!
@@MikeymaruArt A sad day for Luka indeed, interesting mechanic from enemies
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@@WeiForever meus parabéns
Um dia visite o Brasil!
Finally my master uploaded, time to kick ass floor 12
no way bro did aventurine on the same number of cycles as my jingliu team💀
Jingliu is better in two elites scenario
Always get ideas or inspired by runs like this, thanks ❤
Not Misha casually doing 200k damage
Good job friend! 😁 your second side is so smooth even with no Dance x3 😮.
Thanks Mocchi! That's after many retries. 😂 I was very close for a few attempts but hoyo decided to buff Aventurine boss with more HP
Yout misha ult does more dmg than my acheron 💔
great showcase
good job!!!
First! i love u'r videos
nice 10 spd Vonwacq pieces you got there 😊
For that question in the beginning, id say yes hes a good boss gameplay wise, just that he has way higher stats that he probably should, hp is fine cuz well ipc and preservation stuff but, cc and energy drain would justify an atk decrease at least i think. The losing gamble I'd say should only be high dmg no imprison or medium dmg imprison, then again, it is incredibly powerful if you win so i guess its fine(?)
Great takes, yes, a high risk, high reward mechanic but he hits so hard and gambling non-stop which is stalling and wasted a lot of turns
aventurine boss has massive thighs so yes great design
🤔👍
Awesome. The enemies so tanky
Indeed
Aventurine boss is a complicated topic imo
Its desing and moveset it's good
Until we get to the dice, the dice is a shitty rng mechanic that can ruin a run easily
I agree, character without AoE attack is strugglling in the gamble phase. But they made Aventurine a single target boss, which made it really hard
13:20 I think the key is the Effect RES here?
Exactly!
you need to do more 4 stars run because theyre SO fun to watch lol (i want you to suffer)
🤔👌
666 falling bags from Misha 😂
I think Misha (E6) being strong is reasonably fair, he is literally someone important 😅
But seriously now I think Aventurine boss is a pain, I used the firefly premium team to pass it (HMC E6, Firefly E1S1, Ruan mei E0S1, Gallagher E6), certainly my gallagher E6 with 240 Break Effect helped to leave Aventurine broken sometimes
but in the end I passed with only 1 cycle left
(I almost didn't make it!)
A clear is a clear! Congrats! Team investment matters a lot in term of cycle count. And the second half has fire resistance which make your team does less damage. I agree, Aventurine is always a pain
@@WeiForever thanks! and
fire resistance? I didn't know that haha,
but apparently my firefly was reaching her normal potential
Amazing, Misha performs better than my Jingliu here and I'd say in general for ST combat.
Do you think Sushang would perform similarly here or not really?
Sushang should be great here with Ruan Mei/Robin. Maybe a good idea to team up with Luka for a fast break.
Let me gues? Mocchi homework 😅
That's right, don't tell the teacher 😉
Well,time to build my E6 Misha and E(?) Luka as break
Yes, they are great if you don't have Jingliu or Boothill
@@WeiForever i guess so,i never did 36* since they added 11,12 floors
I just can't get a character i like for these elements(
Anyway,good luck :3
Hello, whats best replacement for Lynx and Hanya in second team? Can preservation March 7 replace her?
Yes, March 7th is better here with the counter attack. For Hanya, you can use Ruan Mei/Tingyun/Robin. Make sure to build them tanky
@@WeiForever Thank you so much for your response! I'll try it later :D
Nice run! ❤ How do u increase a character's chance of gambling?
That's skill from Lynx, but it only works on destruction/preservation character. Taunt works as well like Boothill/Yunli/Fire MC
@@WeiForever thankss!
i think 4 stars with full eidolons should be better honestly, you barely made it while having amazing stats on them and full eidolons, I wish 4 stars would be better honestly. It makes no sense that on one side 4 stars should be options for free to play yet you have barely reccources so building them is mostly a waste of reccources sadly since they can only clear endgame with E6 und perfect gear
Yes, I did ask myself the same question. The biggest diff between 4 star and 5 star character are the Harmony characters (and their eidolons). There are not really a huge diff between a 4 star and 5 star damage dealer, maybe except Acheron. A lot of 0 cycle clears you found on YT are without sustain, they would automatically drop to 2-3 cycles with sustain, which is slightly better than a 4-5 cycles with 4 stars only. Outside of YT, people are probably just cleared with 9 or 10 cycles even with many 5 stars, due to investment they put on their character (relics, LC, eidolons, etc)
Sometimes I want the game to make stronger 4 stars but on the other hand, it won't be any challenge if we have a 4 star Robin for example, but yes, it would be great for the players
Luka in that party makes me uncomfortable.
sorry 😅
haiyaa all 3 weejios have Galla+HMC on 1st half smoge
YES, f2p friendly team, no fire weak sadly
@@WeiForever even Ruri used these 2 smoge
"Maybe I can use Sparkle in Phase 2" then I see Aventurine lol, guess maybe I can use Ruan Mei instead 🤔 but then she won't be able to break as fast as Hanya lol
oh and btw my Ruan Mei is only around 105~ Speed so 💀
If you can't bring someone good at rolling the dice, just bring someone good at keeping you alive for failing on purpose
5 star Harmony doesn't have much attack ability, so they usually have a hard time when facing Aventurine. I recommend to have at least 147 spd on them or bring a strong sustain
How important is it to raise Misha's talent to the maximum level? I'm worried I won't get the ultimate when I need it.
I would say lvl 8, need 3 skills usage from teammate to get 5 energy. 5 energy from using ult, 30 from skill, 60 from Tingyun, total of 100. Or lvl 10, need 5 skills usage to get 10 energy
Personally i think it would be a nice change if during the dice phase, a portion of the damage you deal to the dice will also be dealt to aventurine so it makes things less annoying, the intervals between when he'll enter the dice phase in phase 2 is also really short
First half was literal CC pain, i had to try 4 different teams just to overcome the CC problem 😭
I managed to clear first half with a ratio robin team and second half with a firefly team. First half went okay because robin is just OP but second half was really annoying and I had to watch Ruan Mei get slammed continuously during the dice phase. Aventurine's rng mechanics is really annoying not to mention his crazy damage on top of that
yes, Aventurine punishes Harmony characters real hard. While being a single target boss and force you to bring AoE characters at the same time. Phase 2 is a nightmare for sure if your team can't win gamble.
Congrats on your clear! 😉
F2p three star moc? Omg I couldn't even survive and 3 star it ;-;
Surviving is an issue here, you can use Guard set to improve this. I did this with my run in version 2.1
Bro telling me I have skill issue
is misha break good on this MoC?
@@brianvenezuela9302 superbreak? It can work but hypercarry should be better with having him e2+
Title: “4* only”
Meanwhile Stelle on the team:
🤓: erm actually trailblazer is a 5 star
You got me Klee
okay so just genuinely have a skill issue
The first step is acceptance, good work. Welcome to star rail, you're now already ahead of the people who swear there's powercreep in the game
Theres also relic issues, look at his relic and compare to yours especially the wind set. Endgame is more like 20% skill 80% stats, the game hardly need skills. So you need to look at what stats you lack
@@omega6826 You did not just say that in a video of 4 stars only where the 121 crit dmg misha kills the tankiest boss in the game. It's 70% strategy and knowledge, 30% investment (not even stats directly like other games)
@@omega6826The stats requirement in this game is never so high as people think it is.
I think my comments r shadowbanned
no, you are not