Persona 4 Golden - Trash or Treasure? | Truth Is Elusive
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- Before Persona 5 hit the stores, this was the be all and end all for the series. It wasn't going to get any better than this (well with Persona 4 Golden anyway, nobody seems to talk about the PS2 original these days). But does Persona 4 still hold up even after the release of the fifth main game, or could there possibly be a couple of things that it did better than Persona 5? Hang on, let me just find my Vita so we can find out. I'm sure it's around here somewhere...
Persona 4 was released for the PS2 in 2008, but everybody mainly discusses the Vita port, Persona 4 Golden. Persona 4 Golden contains extra features and goodies that Persona didn't have. Persona 4 Golden still remains as one of the most popular games in the series, and Persona 4 Golden even got a PC port after this Persona Golden video came out. In my Persona 4 Golden review, I explain why Persona 4 Golden is still an incredibly fun time, and how Persona 4 Golden can also be a good starting, as well as Persona 5.
Steam: "I have arrive."
P4G is now on Steam. So the barrier to entry is much lower now.
I bought it on steam for 10 Bucks last week. When i have finished Dragon Quest VIII, i'll play the heck out of it.
Who's here because p4g is coming to steam?
p4g is the best game ever made. not just persona. I cry at the thought of playing it.
So play P5R and P3P or FES, and u will cry Persona ending a River lol.
@@Pduarte79 P5Rs ending dungeon is one of the best in the series, but the ending itself is kinda..........mediocre
@@Pduarte79 Played all of them.
P3/P3P's and FES' ending feels really forced and doesn't have the emotion of the other games. The characters overall are pretty uninteresting and one noted.
While P5's ending sucked, Royal's was one of the best, the antagonist in one of my favorites of any video game and the characters who didn't get a good conclusion in the original did in this.
P4G is also my favorite game of all time and i have a lot of biased towards it, but it's amazing cast, one of the best written villains ever, great setting, great gameplay, incredibly explored themes, etc. make it much more heartbreaking at the ending.
Why is it so good? I dont get it
@@Mounthuapleb5890 Try it for yourself, be open minded about it, dont think of it as an anime game where you have to go out with people and shit, just take it easy and go through the game properly, if you still dont get why people like it, this genre might not be for you, but thats completely ok
I would respect this review, but you don’t understand the greatness of best girl Naoto.
I think you mean best girl Kanji Tatsumi
Agreed
@@muhdhakiim8791 also join best vhad out of all protag CHAD YUUUU
I honestly like all of the main cast and i have a hard time choosing best girl
@@himasekiwari155 the bro that everyone loves
I’m still playing 3, but I’ll play 4 eventually. Also, teddies is sweet.
3 was really good too. Highly under rated
@@puts1421 yeah i just recently beat both 3 fes and 4 for the first time and was surprised to enjoy them almost as much as 5. everyone complains about the teammate ai in fes but i found it easy to get them to do what i want most of the time by switching tactics. a lot of comments i see make me think people don't even realize you can switch tactics or just don't understand how it works.
Teddie is not sweet. He tried stealing my damn waifus.
@@just-rize he's pretty creepy, especially his voice.
@@Jack_80 yeah, I don't mind his existence, but just... it's a bit of a pain dealing with him.
I’d have to make the argument that Ai’s (not necessarily Yumi’s) social link was the most engaging and interactive of them all. As much as I love the Persona series, it has a bit of an issue with the believability that all of these characters just agree with you and like you no matter what you say to them. I strongly believe that Persona 4 is the “slice-of-life” of the persona series and that’s why these “flavor of the week” type characters work. Yea you aren’t getting much technical benefits from engaging in their social links, but I feel like the point of engaging in them is because you’re genuinely interested in them as a character. When I first got the reversal for Ai, I freaked out, because up to that point there were little to no consequences to just answering whatever the hell you want, but now there were actual consequences to my life simulator (look at that!) It was honestly intriguing as hell and made me want to max her out that much more! (Even making me do a whole new game just to go the “real” lovers Route 😅). As for her shitty personality... To each their own? 🤷🏾♂️😂 ...Also, YUKIKO?!?!?
I liked Yumi's too actually. She wanted to be in High School plays to be someone else, to escape from life a bit. And I can totally get her being confused on how to act when her dad being the hospital. It also tore out my heart when she confessed and turned her back so that she wouldn't have to see herself get rejected by Yu. I unfortunately already decided to romance Naoto. (Which actually didn't happen because I said the wrong things...)
Yukiko and ai love them and may have there flaws butt isnt the game p4 is about acceptinv them 😂👌 great way to use the theme👏👏
Fun fact, Persona 4 Dancing came out in the US on my birthday.
Adds nothing to the conversation, it’s just something I think is funny and like to share
Wait, persona number........... 4?!?!? Shit mista thats bad luck
Weebruh
It’s only a bad luck number in Japan, our equivalent is 13 here in the US
TheSapphireDarkrai907 he made a JoJo reference
Yosuke is definitely better than Ryuji lol Yosuke had tons of character developments throughout the entire game while Ryuji just stayed the same at the end also Yosuke is more matured than Ryuji
I seriously love when he tell yu that ge is like stuck and like they punch each other to make it equal (since yu punched him 2 times)
And then there's me who love both a whole lot
What are you talking about. Yosuke and the entire cast of p4 stayed the same for the entire story.
@@jorjorbanks8876 Perhaps their core elements remain the same, but their links are all about learning more about themselves and showing how they're just beginning their journeys to discover themselves. Change takes a long time, and Persona 4 does a great job of showing this.
Shinigami Miroku
This is probably while the Investigation Team is probably a lot more memorable and likable than the PT and SEES but that’s highly subjective...but personally what you said is why I love IT so much compare to PT and SEES although they are alright and I do like PT more than SEES but hey I can’t be too judgmental since I had only play P4G through Steam...so yeah
Also if you want to experience P4G than buy that shit on Steam yeah it’s ok motherfucking PC guys!!
The game is on pc now...
Imagine spending money on a vita just for it to come out the following year
Yes. But the Vita Version is still worth it. You can take it where ever you want. If you are travelling, there is nothing more "cozy" then playing some good games to beat dead time. Or on Vacation, in Hotelrooms etc.... Very cozy 😁
But you can alaso play persona 1 to 3 on ps vita using aldrenaline
Honestly Ai was one of my favorite social links in Persona 4, she developed a lot in her social link, she went from: "Let's break all the rules, you slave" to "I wish I could be more like you". If you still don't agree, her social link was better than Nozomi's Social link in Persona 3.
She's also the most unique in terms of "paths" through the link. Like, if you look at some of the 'unfocused' links in 5, compared to Ebihara's potential to reverse, permanently break, and change based on whether you date her early or just befriend her and let her open up, there's a fair amount to it mechanically that they could've done in 5 (and have half-finished, based on datamines), but didn't actually implement.
@@astralm8072 Well I think Ai is in top tier Persona waifus just for improving and becoming a good person at the end of her social link. Also what do you think is the best Shin Megami Tensei game that isn't Persona 4(Honestly I prefer 4 over 5) the only game that isn't Persona related that I've played is Shin Megami Tensei IV and I think it's the best RPG on the 3DS, and honestly one of my favorite RPGs
Let's be honest, All social links were better than Nozomi's.
@@jorjorbanks8876 Well said man
@@jorjorbanks8876 Can they just Revamp Persona 3 social link and replace Nozomi with Shinjiro. Honestly one of the big mistake they made in Persona 3 is not having a full party member social link
Personally for me I prefer Persona 4 over Persona 5 :/
Same
i just started playing 4 and i'm getting into it but not quite as much as i got into 5. i'm suspecting the younger detective. if i'm right i think it's a little too obvious because at about 12-15 hours in he's pretty much the only one there is to suspect. kinda hope i'm wrong and the game manages to surprise me still but i have a strong feeling he's the killer. i can picture his facial expression going all crazy like akechi's did in 5 when he revealed himself.
Jack M I won’t spoil anything for you since it’s a really good game but pay attention to dialogue and the way certain characters act. You might be able to figure it out
@@drowzee6076 i beat it now and the ending felt unfished to me, then i looked it up and found out i missed the good ending. so i reloaded my last save and got the good ending. i knew it was adachi, that's who i meant when i said younger detective. i wasn't expecting so many different endings, in p5 all the endings are pretty much identical.
Same uwu ( i love the damn persona games also care for P1 and 2 but P4 have a very very soft spot in my heart uwu)
I like these videos they give me insight on which Persona games I should try.
17:31 Fuck I always keep Naoto on my team so I never knew her follow-up is literally a drive-by lmao
This guy looks like a Walmart joker everytime I see him in the cosplay I can't help but laugh
Persona 4 Golden is actually my favourite Persona game. I love Persona 5 Royal, but Persona 4 gives me a lot of nostalgia and I love revisiting it at every chance I get. I hope it can get a console port soon.
P4G’s an excellent choice regardless. :)
your channel is extremely underrated hopefully u can hit 2.2k soon
HTG // HaydenTheGamer Thank you much! I’m sure it will, and I’ll always appreciate any help I can get. :)
@@TrashorTreasure :D
Hi. Man from the future here. You got that Switch release announced as of today.
Just found this channel when searching for Persona 4 lol, subbed btw
It has Yosuke so an obvious 10/10 from me tbh
This is such a good and well put together video
Thank you very much! That means a lot!
It was enough for me to buy a vita last year haha, I absolutely love it! I played 5 first, then I picked it up on ps2. I put 10 hours in then decided I needed the better version. I'd get the playstation tv if it wasnt so spendy
Is it as good in the ps2 Version?
How much was the Vita? I've heard so many different price ranges
@@TitusKingdom ive seen some for 80 used
Then the PC port happened.
Yeah of course I bought a vita before this came out hahaha. But now I have it on PC and on Vita! The vita and pc port is a better version of the game with added content and more fleshed out features. Its also easier to get new personas after battles. Late response but persona is a fucking god in the gaming world
I remember back when this first came out people were over hyping the dungeons. "omg such a huge improvement over Persona 3!"
But, like, it's just a hallway with stairs. Persona 5 does ot better
@daviddare100 exactly... Comparing dungen of 2 game with 10 years gap is kinda not fair... Not to mention how much technology leap console has.if p5 dungeon come out as same as the previous game, i bet many people will rage.
Persona 3 dungeon's were much better than persona 4
Persona 5 is cool has tons of extra mechanics, it focuses mainly on battle and their cognitive mechanic I rank it a 9/10 its delicious
Persona 4 is just special. It has its flaws like most games but it focuses mainly on character/ story development unlike p5's battle focused mechanics.
P4 keeps you intrigued and guessing who the villain is and how to solve the mystery, as well as its theme is just a little more normal like then p5.
While both wonder into a strange world it's how p4 did it that made it's better IMO than p5.
I played p5 all the way through and though the characters where great and because it's a newer game it has more stuff...its got nothing on p4 and never will lol.
Nah but on the real remake p4 on switch and goodbye p5.
I kept playing p5 and it was just missing something that thing that keeps your nose in the game and makes you feel for the characters as if they where real people. ..
Maybe they overdid p5 to TRY and make it better than p4 I don't know. But p4 IMO is a 15/10
Ps: yosuke is way better than ryuji, you where probably playing the game with a lean that p5 was better than p4 and not just playing p4 without the comparison factor.
But p5 is good
I was told that persona 4 sucked so I played anyway to see why, next thing I know it's my favorite persona game, I love the story, the characters, how some scenes I can relate to, I just love this game
No you're wrong, Persona 4 Story isn't SAD or EDGY, So it SUCKS, Fuck You
-Edgy SMT and Persona 3 Fan
@@magatsuizanagi5305 sounds about right
@@magatsuizanagi5305 I literally see this shit everywhere.
Some personal thoughts. I’m playing the Royal right now, already beat the original 5. I think it’s unfair to judge persona 4 by persona 5 standards. That’d be like saying Kingdom Hearts is a bad game because Kingdom Hearts 2 was amazing. I get that all of us played 5 before we played 4, but in my honest opinion, persona 5 was a little full of itself. Sure, I loved some of the characters, the dungeon crawling wasn’t just the best in the series, but some of the best in all turn based jrpgs. The music was pretty great, anything that Lyn is part of is absolute fire, and some of the other songs are pretty great, too. It does have some misses. It took me 125 hours to beat vanilla persona 5 and after 40 hours, I’m only on Kaneshiro’s palace in Royal. The game loves exposition dumps to a fault. You could trim so much dialogue and have a better game here. And I think that’s the big thing that separates 4 from 5. 4 felt like a tighter game. It rolled in at 70-80 hours for me, I never got bored or felt burnt out. I started it and played it until I beat it. Compare this to Persona 5, I started playing it at the beginning of 2018, burnt out around Madarame’s Palace, picked it up when Joker was announced for smash, dropped it after Shido’s Palace, and finally finished the last of the game after I finished persona 4 and said “damn, maybe I was too hard on 5” in summer of 2019. 5 just felt too self important. Like why was Pankechi’s portion of the story so long? I swear, it had 3 save points in it. As in the exposition was so long, they thought it might take 3 sit downs to get through it. If a movie runs two hours, that’s one thing. You don’t watch a movie because you want to feel like a part of the story. Video games are different. If you take the control away from me for 2 hours, I just get frustrated and quit, hence why I stopped at Shido’s palace. And for all the love I give to Persona 5, to the point that I would go and play the director’s cut, the game is terribly paced. I swear, the main reason I love persona 4 more than persona 5 is because it took me 50-60 less hours to beat it, while maintaining the charm. Of course both games are masterpieces when held up against the abomination against nature that Persona 3 is. The ending was the only good part of that game, I do not care if you hate me for saying it, I did not have any fun in Tartarus, not even for a minute. If Mass Destruction wasn’t the battle theme, I probably would’ve used an evoker on myself. There’s my 2 cents on the modern persona trilogy. Playing fuck, marry, kill: fuck 5, marry 4, kill 3
I want persona 4 golden remake cause damn its stuck on a dead console T^T like its a good game its the freakin spark, atlus milked the shiz out of it! In my opinion it deserves a remake (persona 4 golden and dancing all night and the persona 4 & golden anime is way much better than the 5 and we know it)
@@himasekiwari155 Yeah, too bad it'll NEVER GET A STEAM RELEASE I'M STILL RIDING THIS HYPE TRAIN CHOO CHOO
@RageGetBest all games are good.
@@himasekiwari155 pssst go on steam and search persona 4
@RageGetBest LOL ok
Wait what you can start at the beginning of the floor if you die on persona 4 gold well hot damn base persona 4 sends you to the main menu if you die
so, pc p4g huh.
fastest $30 I’ve ever spent
I have Persona 4 for my ps2 and I would still recommend it even without the new content and gameplay mechanics. Also it’s easier to find a ps2 compared to a ps vita.
Persona 4 (golden or not) and dancing all night deserves a remake
Persona 4 characters, storylines, backgrounds, music, etc everything superior to persona 5. Persona 5 is great but not as legendary as persona 4.
Persona 4 Characters and Story are better than Persona 5,but the Soundtrack of Persona 4 is really annoying.
For me it was the opposite.
Persona 4 original (and ofc p4 golden) and dancing all night deserve a remake in my opinion
In ur opinion.
Desciclopediano Perdido
What do you mean...HAVE YOU HEARD THE REINCARNATED VERSIONS!! As well as the remixes from Dancing all night?!!
Would Love Persona 3 FES and Persona 4 Golden on Switch
Not happening,the mainline persona games are sony exclusive
TvT rip my boi P4 golden such a great game ot deserve to live in a living console not the dead one T^T
@@himasekiwari155 forget everything i said,it seems that p4g is coming to pc,and if it can come to pc then it can come to the switch too
For anyone wanting to play p4g without a psvita it is on steam now
if you think the characters are weak then you weren't paying attention. If you started with P5 then I can understand why you'd feel like that since the P5 characters are weak, but not the P4 cast. Did you pay any attention to Ai's social link? The ending when she learns to see herself reflected in other people? Its such a great moment. Ryuji is so much worse than Yosuke are you joking? Ryuji is just a lesser Kanji (electric/physical persona, dyed blond hair, aggressive personality, uses blunt weapon, kinda stupid) except that Kanji is actually likable and endearing. Yes the P5 links give abilities or effects more than just exp boosts but they are so boring and bland. I actually care about the P4 links.
Also the life simulator down time stuff is what's important, having a balance. Something P5 didn't do to its detriment. Why is P5 all Phantom Thieves all the time?? It really weakened the overall experience.
Also also P4 the characters already have a dynamic before the game even starts. Yosuke, Chie, and Yukiko are in the same class, Chie and Yukiko are best friends. So what if Chie and Yosuke bicker? So do normal people
Erm...when did I say the Investigation Team was weak? In fact, my exact words were "I do love the main cast". I don't find them to have as strong of a connection as The Phantom Thieves, but that doesn't mean I dislike them. I mentioned how Kanji was a great character no matter what scene he was in, Yukiko's a sweetheart, and I grew to enjoy Naoto. Also, Persona 5 had the Hawaii and beach scenes for downtime, as well as arguably the culture festival. Granted, those were some of the only ones, which is what I pointed out in the video, but saying there's none whatsoever seems a bit overkill. I've also played through the whole of Ai's social link, but I'm sorry, I still think she's a manipulative person, even after she was no longer as cold.
I haven't been inattentive to the game at all. I still really enjoy the story and some of the characters. I just found Persona 5's to be a little bit better. That's all.
P4 links with your team members are shit too, they evolve their personas just because you ranked 10 their social link. In 3 it awakens through personal resolution which is far better than shitty social link evolutions.
@@demon5928 the links with your team aren't bad though. In fact they're good. However, I will concede that it does leave their growth as a Schrodinger type of development dependant on whether you ranked them up or not
Yes the p3 evolutions being tied directly to the plot are nice and all but the plot is so poorly paced with huge stretches of nothing happening that it does kind of dull the whole experience. Also the p3 social links are all awful. Kenji being a particular standout example of this for me. I haven't experienced the p3p female side to see if that changes my take on it overall
How u feel about Persona 5, I feel about this game. Persona 4 Golden is my game of the decade. I love this game to pieces and will always come back to play it 9:15 and funny enough I just got finished with a complete social link playthrough of it and can actually say I almost platinumed the game because I love it that much, it's not perfect but it's definitely one of my favorite video games of all time.
Dang son. Well done! I’m still around 60% or so of the trophies done. For the one where you complete all social links, do you have to do them all in one playthrough, or can they be carried across over multiple playthroughs?
@@TrashorTreasure everything can be carried over except the character levels (thank god) cuz that made completing the compendium a lot easier and unfortunately the max social links won't carry over but I think the reward u get from Margaret to show u completed them carries over. Honestly some of the social links I don't mind doing again, but then there r those like the fox where I'm glad it's over....
Yeah, I definitely know the social link levels themselves don’t carry over, just wondered if the rewards counted at all.
@@TrashorTreasure Heh it would definitely make maxing them out easier if the social link levels were carried over. Cuz as much as I loved the social links of the main cast, there was one that was tedious and admittedly like u said some of the side characters social links are pretty boring and I 100% agree about how u feel about Ai Ebihara.....she's my most hated social link in this game and gah it was painful in playthroughs when I seen her and did my best to max out the social links only to miss the other max social links by 1 or 2 days....then I'd be thinking damn it....now I have to see this jerk next playthrough.....
Good lord, Ai was indeed a handful. I didn’t buy her little change of heart a great deal either. Seemed phoney. Same goes for Yumi, though in some cases, I thought she could be worse than Ai with how over dramatic she can be.
I admit that Teddie did grate on me over time but I was so surprised that Sam Reigal also voices Ky Kiske in Guilty Gear Xrd Sign... I really hope he returns as Ky in Guilty Gear Strive in June 😁 🤞
Just bought Persona 4 vanilla. Didn't have a PC or laptop. Golden was taking too long for a PS4 port.
After playing Persona 3 I think I'll enjoy Persona 4
Honestly the better version in my opinion
Hey, in defense of Yosuke he is more of realistic character like and gender equality person, he is more of a kazuma kind of person you know
The Sun Arcana is for sure my favorite for the characters. I will never forgive you for dissing Yumi!... I will still enjoy the video though.
Edit: Never mind, now you're dissing my boy Yosuke! Now I'm forced to... Enjoy this video slightly less! Ha, take that!
Boi yosuke is actually a good character and like sometimes in both 3 and 4 like the girls are mean in a way (but not mean to the point of hate) also they develop as the story progress so me sad of how he dont care bout boi yosuke
@@himasekiwari155 He's good but I have to admit that I was annoyed when he starts dissing on kanji and naoto.
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Yeah I love Yosuke to bits but I have to agree with you there like Naoto he was just teasing her for shits and giggles but the comments he made towards Kanji makes him look Homophobic...but hey who am I to judge
Now Persona 4 golden is on steam.
*Happy noises*
Yeah I wondered how they were friends when everyone were being assholes to each other's
More believable then makoto spiting orders despite putting the team in peril, ryuji never changing, ann just sits still and tries to look pretty (despite being a damn child), yusuke and haru literally not being people, futaba acting out of character for a shut in, and goro akEdgy being a literal backstaber
My favorite is Persona 3
P3 mainly disappointed me as the story was so short and could've been executed better.
Treasure. Next question
Brilliant review mate, subed!
Thanks a lot, man! Greatly appreciated!
I'll admit Persona 5 has the better dungeons then Persona 4 because they are actual dungeons with puzzles, and stuff. Also you are aware that the sun social link you can either go to a band club to get someone else. I know this comment is a year late, but I just wanted to tell you
Don't do Persona 3 PS2 do Persona 3 FES PS2 / PS3
Deandre Day Yeah, I was mainly referring to FES. Have already done a few hours of The Answer. Shall see how far I go with it. :)
P3P is pretty good
Seriously Yumi? Please she wasn't that bad.
This is a bit late, but I think that subtle hints that P4G might be coming to switch (I'm not saying it will, just a prediction)
It is now, a good reason to own or buy a Vita just for this game. Did that, and have no regrets 😍😎
Chies voice in Persona 4 ps2 is better than Persona 4 Goldens voice
1000% agreed
1000% disagree
IMO, the Vita's library is comparable I'm size and quality with the 3DS', it just has less pure exclusives but makes up the difference in the number of games that could only be played portably on the Vita, and by having far less shovelware after PlayStation Mobile got shut down (mostly because it just wasn't popular enough to be profitable for a lot of shovelware developers).
Atlus: we don't know about switch but have Golden on Steam
19:18 and people dare to say Persona is just a Playstation exlcusive
i got this on psp vita, it ended up digital sales 3.99£ suppose to be coming to steam i just heard
I might be the only person in the Persona fandom who finds P4 to be the weakest of the modern games. Hell, even in the entire scope of the series, I think it's tied with P2 at second weakest.
PriceyYeti40 I agree although I haven’t played 2 so I have no idea if it’s good or bad
@@tylerjames805 Story and characters are great, but the gameplay has not aged well at all and the story can ge convoluted towards the end.
PriceyYeti40 Persona 4s characters are done well but for me Persona 5s characters just hit much harder. Persona 5 the main characters are outcasts, Rebels against a society that have done all of them wrong. Persona 4 the main characters feel more like the anime version of Scooby Doo. Also the story’s tone is done better in P5 it builds the tension slowly as you reach the next target. In P4 all the characters are just doing QuIRkY ThInGS until the plot comes bursting back in through the wall
Na, I definitely agree will never understand the praise for persona 4
@@tylerjames805 I also seriously don't like the fact that at the end, all you are doing in P4 is just blaming random people even though the culprit was easy to figure out.
When you think that Twins and Reaper are Harder than Margareth😂😂. Well at least original Margareth.
I never said the twins and the Reaper were harder than Margaret. I say in the video I’ve never fought Margaret before and didn’t even talk about the difficulties between those bosses.
@@TrashorTreasure Oh, my bad I Just misunderstood. Just a warning Margreth is much Harder.
2:07 Atlus: did ya say Steam? Here we go. 20 bucks for a good JRPG
I only have p4 for the ps2 cus I dont have a vita or PC but it's still my favorite game of all time
part of me was expecting a cut from himdaisys comic doin the pshsha
It came out on steam but I feel like it should go on switch as well
Am I the only one who thinks Persona 5 is overrated as hell and that Persona 4 is overhated as hell? I loved Persona 4 way more than P5 or P3 and it’s still the game people talk the most shit about.
There's a vocal minority out there that like to loudly complain that Persona (starting with P3) became less about the serious, grim stories of the SMT universe and more about being a dating sim. While P3 certainly shifted to that "social sim by day, dungeon crawler by night" hybrid gameplay, it still had a very dark tone and a story about dealing with death.
But when P4 came out, the game's bright and vibrant colors, more jovial cast, and less "dark" story themes pushed those people over the edge. And the anti-Persona 4 complaints haven't stopped since. Even though P4 still deals with a lot of dark themes, it's overall appearance and light-hearted side content gives it a very different presentation, especially if you're familiar with the SMT games.
IMO the original PS2 release is the definitive version of the game. Unlike P5R, the additions in Golden are much more of a miss than a hit, in particular the problem you had with the game having too many trips and events is waaay less severe in the original release.
This next point is personal opinion, obviously, but I just feel that Marie as a character doesn't really add anything to the plot other than acting as a haphazard justification to the final dungeon's existance. That last bit, I reiterate, is just my opinion and not something I perceive as being objectively truth, of course.
Other than that, I love the original release to death, it's definitely one of the finest JRPG's of all time.
so, i bought cheap ps2 version and then pirated vita version... in what level of hell i will spend eternity?
The *hell*
It was desperate of a switch release, that's why theirs a steam version.
Masterpiece
I like your videos well enough, but if someone needs to slow down, it's not P4. Can barely keep up with you rattling off all this stuff.
I like persona 5 for the graphics and gameplay
But I like persona 4 for both it's gameplay and story
The lesson for today is, graphics can't make the game better.
I would agree with you friend but sometime it can take away from the experience when a PS4 game looks like ass (I'm talking about newer games not older gen ones)
You can't go backwards dude 😂🤣. Imagine playing persona 4 first and waiting for 5. Then getting to play it... OMG
Popular opinion!!
Youske is better character and more developed than Ryuji. Youske is the True best friend in his SL events in difference to Ryuji that doesn't give that feeling. Also P5 is overated.
Also all P5 waifu options are way better to me than all romance females in Persona 5.
P5 is overrated? That's a good joke.
for me P3 > P4 > P5
Wait persona 5 is your least favorite game?
This list is odd af.
Crack destroyer sure p5 has the best gameplay but it has overall than the other games weaker characters which i think most people value more than gameplay
For me p4>p5>p3
P2>P3>P5>P4>P1
Don't fuck with us Persona 1&2 Fans, we don't exist.
@@bricktastic-acular1298 but persona started with P3
Yosuke is a much better character than Ryuji i mute my sound everytime he talks in p5 royal to much cursing to loud it was hard to playthrough his voice over acting
rise best girl
I bought a vita for this game....
I just find the idea of facing your shadow and accept it as part of who you are mor apealing than the I rebel against the twisted adults from p5.
Also the grup in p4 fells closer. I can defenetly see them hanging out years after and having a good time eaven if yu isnt there. I cant say the same about p5s phantom thieves, it fells as the one thing that keeps them together is joker take I dont see them hanging out without joker.
Persona 5's characters are much more mature so I can see why but they are 100% friends to me they just have bigger real life goals and aspiration than most characters in 4
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction much more mature? I don't see that at all.
Both groups are teenagers and they can be pretty childish It's to be expected.
I like the phantom thieves, and their story it's on a bigger scale.
but I like Inaba and I like the investigation team a bit more, they feel closer more relatable. It's a matter of taste really, I prefer p4 characters and story.
@@Ballard258 Eh, they are both equal quality to me, I guess I just like Persona fives darker japanese themes
The switch NEEDS persona 1P to 4G think about it
Persona representation in smash
New fans interested
Said new fans and vets can play on the go
We all know people are more likely to by the switch for these games rather than the PSP or Vita (love the consoles but outdated)
More options for people if they don’t have or want a PS4
It’s a JRPG you would be able to play ANYWHERE!!! AN ATLUS ONE AT THAT
Agreeeeee 👏👏👏👏
Persona 4 on the ps2 was better in my opinion (sorry golden users). Maybe its also cause Chie's VA does so much better in the ps2 and I'm not a big fan of all the changes they made.
I think Chie sounds too old in the original version tbh. I think the new voice fits Chie's bubbly attitude.
I honestly like both Chie V.As but yeah the only good thing P4G introduced was proper widescreen
Yeah I definitely like og p4 Chie's va
I hated the grinding in 4.
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Omg this game looks amazing i got a ps Vita and already ordered it on eBay to play
Might buy a vita for just this game!
Vanilla P4 is better than Golden.
Fight me all you want, but you know I'm right.
Agree with ya (but i like both tbh so its a win win and its still p4 and will always have a place in my kokoro)
Why do you think that? Golden is basically p4 but with improvements.
@@jorjorbanks8876 I think it's due to how the new cutscenes in Golden can conflict with the intended tone of the game.
Either that, or it's probably the inclusion of Marie.
@@dooblebooble true, but the pros outweigh the cons. And as much as you may dislike Marie, you have yo admit that she makes the story better. She adds build up to the final boss, and helps with the other sagiri's.
Ryuji is just a more annoying yoska
i just cant watch/play it just cause im not used to seeing such different (for me kinda bad) graphics ._.
So you cant play a game cause of graphics? Graphics arent everything ya know
@@mizzix didnt mean it like that, but im just used to the design of p5. i can play and watch other old games, fe. games like earthbound, og pokemon games etc.
i just feel strange looking at the graphics of p4
@@abcdefabcdef7604 oh ok,i thought you was one of those persons that cant play old games because of graphics,sorry
For my money, Persona 4 is better than anything released on PS4 or Xbox One, including Persona 5.
P4 and P3 are worlds better than P5
I agree with most points except Yosuke being inferior with Ryuji.
Yosuke >>>>>>>>> Ryuji
Did you remember to take into account the little fact that Ryuji-
Ryuiji (grabs mic): "IS ACTUALLY A MEMBER OF THE PHANTOM THIEVES!?"
Yeah, yosuke is one of my favorite persona characters in general
@@xtra3678 Yosuke >>> any other girls in persona 4
@@OjinSZ WHY CAN'T WE ROMANCE MEN ATLUS PLEASE
@@xtra3678 my rank 1. Yosuke
2. Kanji
3. Teddie
DA BOYZZZZZ
"there's an entirely new world within every television" you might want to add within Inaba, since you know Persona 5 exists in the same universe as Persona 4 and I'm not seeing Ren Amamiya getting his hand sucked into his own phone every time he uses it, using a touchscreen in inaba must be impossible for persona users.
I know this comment is two years old, but that's not how the Midnight Channel works. Firstly, it has to be a TV you're sucked into, it can't just be any device with a screen. Second, the only people who can enter the Midnight Channel in the first place are those given the power by Final Boss Lady. Anyone else can only get in if they're brought there by one of aforementioned people blessed by Final Boss Lady.
@@PlayerZeroStart that doesn't explain how the Persona 3 team can go into the TV world in Persona 4 Arena. (th-cam.com/video/ZR4VV9a-iw4/w-d-xo.html a cutscene from Persona 4 Arena to add to my point)
@@WednesdayMan Because the Persona 4 Arena writers are incompetent
@@PlayerZeroStart I probably should bring up that a persona is required to enter the TV world or to allow others to follow in, non-persona users (outside of those blessed by final boss lady) cannot enter the tv world until they get their persona. as shown in Persona 4 that before Yosuke gets his persona when going into the TV world the second time, Yu Narukami has to touch the TV screen first before Yosuke can go into the TV world.
after Yosuke gets his persona he tries to stick his head into the TV and he actually was able to put his head into the TV the same way.
As much as a I love Persona 4, I don't think I can ever go back to that game again. I tried playing it in New Game+ but I got bored real quick. In terms of gameplay, Persona 5 just beats Persona 4 in every aspect. The biggest downside of P4 is its dungeon. Sure, it was better than that god-awful Tartarus from P3 but after about 3 or 4 dungeons, it was more or less the same randomly-generated dungeon bullshit. Changing up the theme wasn't enough to alleviate the boredom that I experienced while I went through P4's dungeon. P5 spoiled me with its beautifully designed main story dungeons that were unique from one another and like I said, I can never go back to P4 and even P3 because of it. Speaking of boring dungeons, P5's Memento's was also boring but then Royal came along..
i agree that the biggest downside of p4/g was its dungeons but the amount of actual time it takes to beat p5/r's dungeons is WAY WAY too long.
@@Cobra-zt4pl I'd rather play through a 4 hour long dungeon that's consistently fun than play through an hour long dungeon that's boring all throughout.
Aside from Okumura's Palace, I had so much fun with P5's palace that I didn't even notice they were THAT long.
@@Cobra-zt4pl Unless you're in new game plus, you can finish the Palaces really easily.
Persona 4 Arena was the first game in the series I played which let to me loving 5. If I had the money, I'd go backwards and play 4.
If you don't like Yumi's Social Link, I suggest joining the Music Club instead of the Drama Club where you'll form a Social Link of the Sun arcana and I think you'll find her better than Yumi, who is Ayane.
Wish I had a Vita or the PlayStation TV so I could play Golden. But I still have a PS3 and so I’m playing through the original PS2 version of Persona 4. I started it a few months back but moved toward other games. Now back to it and loving it.
Vita dead... Persona 4 golden and original and dancing deserves remake in my opinion
And now this, portable and persona 5 Royal are coming to the switch. With Royal coming this year.
Honestly I played Royal before playing Golden and soon as I finished Golden I went back to Royal and I actually preferred Golden. Golden just called to me more than Royal. Still think both are great tho.
Its just that feeling man. Persona 4 makes you feel like you're actually there, and that you really are friends. Made me taste a genuineness that I had thought I lost in my highschool years, love, friendship, family, sadness, I felt human. I don't cry very often, but I cried at the Persona 4 ending. No more new adventures, no more nothing. Its also why I experienced a sort of culture shock when moving on to Persona 3, SEES feels more like acquaintances until the whole Shinji dies thing where they begin to awaken their second tier personas.
I'm not dissing Persona 5 royal, it is very much an improvement over the original game and I fucking love Maruki's plotline and the new ending. Hell they even had you hanging out and being like friends, it very much tickled the Persona 4 experience.
@@moonum4567 Persona 5 cast feels more like acquaintances than Persona 3. Why does the game try to make it seem like they are a tight knit crew but you barely know shit about your team, lmfao.
@@demon5928 They added in more moments of you hanging out with the others like playing darts. Persona 3 honestly feels like you are distant acquaintances, like yeah you get a no consequence harem shindig running but then you can't bro it up with the bros too often. Junpei and Akihiko are cool dudes, I want to hang with them more too.
You are the only person I've ever heard say 4's cast was worse than 5's; I dont dislike the 5 cast and I adore ryuji in particular, but in 5 I feel like some characters were bland, like Ann and Haru who were just boring and lacked any personality. Morg was better than teddie, like 90 percent of the time, but when he had his little breakdown-- he was like a little spoiled kid who didn't get what he wanted. Regardless, my point is, in p4 I never felt bored by a character and never did I ever actively dislike any characters in 4 as I did morg. p3s characters were alright, but the story of 3 was by far my favorite-- I cried like a fuckin baby.
in the year 2020 i am playing the original P4 version on PS2. None of that fancy "Golden" stuff.
why?
This game is the reason i fall in love with jrpg genre..7 years ago
9:15 ha i did all social link in one playthrough :D
Unless you a guide, I'm assuming that the first Persona that you fused was Satan.
Treasure, that is what you are~ :)
It's so weird so see someone review persona in backward order with so much conviction that this is the right way and constantly compared old game to new one like old is actually new and reverse.
And then one year after this, P4G came out in Steam and sold half a million in its first month.
Yosuke is just not a simp. Nothing wrong with that. Also Chie is the best girl, Naoto is close second.