Harbeth Speakers vs Beyonce
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- Here's the original #harbeth speakers doc we made including the #beyonce reference: • Harbeth Loudspeakers F...
...and that video with the religious and political polls: • I've Pissed People Off - เพลง
I wish I could be as calm and rational about the idiotic comments on my videos. Your channel is one of the most interesting channels on all of TH-cam. Keep going Christian! By the way, I love Beyoncé!
Rick Beato thanks Rick, means a lot.
Rick Beato I think you show incredible restraint Rick. We enjoy a good Rant.
@@TheCrowHillCo A Rick Beato comment is a HUGE ENDORSEMENT. Love you both. BTW, this Georgia boy who grew up on JBL's GREATLY DESIRES a pair of Harbeths.
You gotta give it to him. That thumbs up at "hit like" was the perfect photo bomb. (Great video, agree on all points.)
I mixed Beyonce' live here in Bermuda about 8 years ago... she was a consummate professional, sounded great and took the whole crew out for dinner afterwards ... and the concert?.... sounded simply AMAAZING ;)
nice! did ya then go back in time and help out the boys sing " Dont let me down " ? twat
Opie stanborough with a comment like that,you are undoubtedly the twat...twat.
I wasn't able to get to the polls in time for this one and am so happy to hear the results. You are giving us all a tremendous gift with your candid and insightful meditations, your courage to be "wrong" and to consider, and that includes all the non-industry, non-music aspects (aka being a human being). I think its your sharing of those make the other stuff resonates so deeply.
OMG this the most entertaining yet spot on video as I’ve seen on TH-cam. I enjoyed your Harbeth video greatly but this is the icing on the cake.
Broke my sternum 4 weeks ago. Somewhat incapacitated.
Read 11 novels, watched a lot of Netflix etc. By far the most enjoyable experience I’ve had in that time has been binge-ing on nearly 18 months-worth of your channel.
Christian Henson Music would definitely receive the John Reith seal of approval: I have been informed, educated and most importantly, entertained!
Many many thanks for being an inspiration and for helping me to stay sane. (Or at least as sane as someone with a life-long love of Korg keyboards ever can be…)
Terry Wogan once said that, and I’m paraphrasing here, “It’s bad enough that people are so easily offended these days, but what’s worse is there are a bunch of people out there waiting to get offended on behalf of others.”
Oh man I love your grumpy videos..! The angry and impulsive part is always good fun, but I also really find fascinating how you analyse and categorise stuff afterwards. It's like trying to create order and meaning in the chaos of life and I find it very inspiring and I always learn a lot from this. I should probably start doing it myself as well, I believe it would be a way of being more aware of my own thoughts, by giving them structure instead of leaving them in a shapeless subconscious mess. By the way, I'm really curious now and I'll have to listen to Lemonade :)
I’ve watched this a few times now, love the content and style. Why can’t I double like a TH-cam video?? Wish I had three pairs of Harbeths too!
Thanks for video! I think I may reference this to all the snobs that surround me as well. As education on music has gotten better over the years it seems many people have turned some rudimentary knowledge into a podium to preach what is "good music" and "bad music" to those around them. Sad to see an amazing exploration of sound turned into a debate
I absolutely love your humor! I thought I was here for a critique, but instead I got a great start of the day, and some good info! Thanks! Cheers, cherio, or whatever you say there!
I love this video! I love your humor and many subtleties, next to the -not so- subtleties! :D I absolutely love it!
This is immediately one of my favourite TH-cam videos. Man, I wish could speak like you . In tone and in content. Keep it up please!
You rock. Love the vlog. Thanks Christian.
Awesome video! Dealt with so many music snobs over the years especially studying music without coming from a jazz/classical background this was great!
Just brilliant - just discovered this and spent most of the video cracking up. D
Rick Beato recommended this channel- love it! Thanks.
The amount of content, work and production quality with this amount suns and view? Sub'd.
Cheers Christian for another great one! I really appreciate it!
One of the biggest things that I realised when I was studying my bachelor of music just recently was that a formal education in music means nothing, if you do not appreciate the music that you are being introduced to. Everyone hears Beethoven's music and Mozart, and of course Debussy's 'Claire du Lune' because of it featuring in films if not for any other reason, but definitely one of the things that I had to address myself (and still am) is that I too am a music snob. And one of the first introductions to my realizations of this is upon hearing Schoenberg's 'Pierrot Lunaire' and immediately thinking "WTF!"
Likening it to going out for dinner, I find myself to going to the same places and ordering the same thing off the menus, not because I would consider myself unadventurous or boring, but because I know what food I like; the same can probably be said for tastes in music. Even though I grew up in a musical family, jazz was never played / listened to, so I never gained an appreciation for it up until completing my classical education in piano and realising how bloody rigid you become when you play and how much you hate playing scales for your exams (which are kind of important for jazz playing so I hear? asking for a friend)
Having an aversion to jazz and pop songs / pieces and much of 20th century works throughout college really came out of not actively listening to them, and only for having to study jazz and 20th century works in detail as part of my course, I'd say that I'd still be in the loop of ignorantly hating on them. The first few times I listened Leroy Jenkins feat. Muhal Richard Abrams - 'The Weird World' or Ligeti's 'Poeme Symphonique for 100 Metronomes' or John Cage's '4 minutes and 33 seconds' I thought "that's not music" or even Ornette Coleman and free jazz. Because it was not something I was used to, I immediately hated on it without listening to it, until I actually listened to it and opened up to it and its ideas. Do I fully understand those works and others? Fucked if I know! Am I trying to appreciate the genius in them? Of course!...because if we can't appreciate someone else's work how are we going to expect anyone to listen to our own and give a damn.
And I think an important thing to note is that appreciating something isn't necessarily liking it, but is giving it the chance that it deserves on the merit that it evolved from someone's own creative process, and whats more vulnerable than that?
I'm open to opinions on this though.
Christian - This is not related to the video but i figured you may hopefully see this question on a recent video. This may be a question for a later vlog or maybe i missed the video where you explained. How did you start up with spitfire? Starting a sample/virtual instrument company must take a large amount of monetary investment up front. Your profession as a composer must have helped in that way and a few others i imagine? I would love to start my own company similar to Spitfire and many others. Of course, I would start small and promote sample packs but the end goal would be to have my own virtual instrument company. I can imagine when starting out the costs of hiring musicians, buying/renting the right equipment, and even just renting a proper studio must be quite taxing. Any insight would be much appreciated.
All the best,
Joe
A full strength rant. Way to embrace the support, and I just have to say, “You go girl.”
And “amen.”
Funniest comment of the year definitely.
@@TheCrowHillCo If his wife's boyfriend likes to listen to Beyonce on the Harbeths it must be good !
Wish I could like this twice. Also wish I could buy you a coffee (or a tea) for this.
Fabulous video, the troll description made me legitimately laugh out loud. I agree with every single point. I'm gonna give that album a listen, but I can't imagine I'll enjoy listening to it much. I can find appreciation and respect for every style of music, but that's not one I necessarily love to listen to on my own time. I'll really listen for everything you've pointed out though. Thank you for this video Christian!
I didn't initially plan on viewing this due to:
a) not owning Harbeth speakers
b) not being in-the-know about Beyonce's music
Glad I did, though. This might be my favorite video of yours, Christian. Thank you for providing an uncensored take on the absurdity of musical snobbery, and where it might lead us in all other facets of life/society. You're doing some damn fine work, and your videos always leave me with a hearty chuckle or some inspiring thoughts. Usually both.
Spot on as always! A joy to watch, thanks Christian, please please always speak your mind!
Well done Christian! Incredible, willful ignorance is something we all deal with on this platform (and increasingly in society) and you articulated this so well. Love your channel!
I’m laughing so hard at this! 😂 Cheers Christian!
This is excellent! Thanks for posting.
Great film, but can you also put a warning at the beginning of your film that you might choke on your toast, like I did when you tripped down the steps 😂
The confusion and bewilderment of the people behind you when making these videos is what I currently live for.
Nice to see another Edinburgh Harbeth lover. I adore my SHL5+ and have given some thought to moving up to 40's.
You sir are my new hero. Thank you for this lol
I fucking love the attitude in this video Christian. Excellent, excellent watch.
Haven't heard Lemonade yet, so now I'm going to in the name of musical enlightenment. :)
It makes sense to test your speakers with something thats well produced and well mixed as a reliable baseline. Lemonade is a great album.
Is that Jazzzzz in the background Christian?.....@6:09
Great video!
Music is music, regardless of what it is. And great to see you're not continuously touching your moustache!
Christian you are great! I love that smart and clever mind of yours and the way you expose facts. Your way of course but it's intrigueing. I cannot hide i'm a little envious for tha fact you have 3 pairs of Harbeth speakers. It means you could afford to buy them and you deserve the best. In Italy those speakers are quite difficult to find and they are so expensive I must still just look at them and wait with lots of hope...One day I will but my Harbeth speakers and I am looking forward to unpack them and listen in exstasy...I love jazz and used to play jazz in my early years but anyway I don't really distinguish music in categories. Music is music if well done and that's it...Beyonce is good music and that's it! Keep on rolling...
I'm loving your channel...great music is great music...
FM Radio arrived in Oz in the late sixties. As a student of classical music at the time, I also loved blues, rock and some jazz. Many of the old music snobs decried wasting FM channels on rock music because the music was low fidelity and did not need FM! It amused me a few years later that when CDs arrived, much of the classical repertoire was re-mastered to take advantage of the full dynamic range which vinyl was incapable of delivering.
Loved the rant.
Spirit of Eden’s sooo good - this was a fun rant to watch!
Have you listened to Partition on your Harbeths? I'd like to know whether they'll survive.
It does work perfectly well on Monitor 40.
Music is like a buffet. As long as there are enough choices on the table, it doesn't matter whether you like something or not. Just choose whatever you want to eat and don't worry about the other stuff on the table. Someone else will eat it. Although I can't really afford to purchase a pair of Harbeths (I would LOVE to though!), I'm glad that there are people who have the means to buy 3 pairs (!!!!) and appreciate them. Congrats! Thanks for posting this.
Thanks, brought me a lot of joy
I remember here in the states at my first Rocky Mountain Audio Fest I went into Jospeh Audio's room. Of course they were playing the Diana Krall variety, and then boom I popped in my Leona Lewis and Brian Culbertson the guys running the room were offering to buy my CD's and was asking could they use them for the day...all of a sudden people were no longer leaving the room. It wasn't just about the bad ass Jospeh Audio Pearls and the thousands of dollars of Audio Research equipment driving them it was about the great diverse music playing...😉
Albums come and go out of my life but Spirit Of Eden will never ever leave me. How I love that album.
Great video Christian, thought provoking about prejudices and preconceptions. Just listen to the music and appreciate it and not be a cloth-eared nincompoop (to quote Mike Oldfield).
Lmfao Christian - one of your best videos yet - haha! Keep on keeping it real dude!
My awesome wife was really nervous about playing me the music she liked for a long time. Being a composer, she expected me to be a music snob, which I’m totally guilty of especially when I was a bit younger. But as someone who wants to communicate through music, knowing what music speaks to different people and trying to understand how it does that is so important. On a more human note, blanket snobbery is a great way to alienate people - and that’s not something I really want to do.
In my 20s I worked on We Will Rock You, the queen musical. I personally don’t really like Queen’s music (ahem, understatement) BUT listening to it every night for weeks at a time, I had to clock into the details to stop myself going mad - which was incredibly valuable!
Three things...
1) I liked your video about Harbeth. I watched it before buying my first pair. Now I have a pair and love them. None of your questions about crossovers etc needed justifying in my opinion. It was a great interview.
2) "Gotta fly Qantas" is bloody hilarious 😂
3) I've just bought Lemonade
Thank you.
Spirit of Eden is one of my favourite records. It's so good on so many levels. We did however lose our copy of Lemonade when we sold our old Honda ccord (the A fell off) to a very nice elderly lady. I like to think she found the cd and plays it regularly. Cheers Christian.
Thanks for visiting us locals in NYC, by the way.
I loved this one so much. Just accept that you like different kinds of music, even if it's popular.
'Gothic Club' made me chuckle..
Brilliant as ever
I have found these vlogs a little late in the game so I’m a bit behind. I started from the beginning so I’m getting there. I had to comment on this one as it rang so many bells. I remember like it was yesterday when my piano tutor refused outright to let me have a break from my grades when I was eleven (1984) and I asked him if I could learn to play an Abba track that my Mum really liked. I was constantly practicing for my grade 2 practical at the time so still very much a novice. He said under no circumstances would he be teaching me anything of the sort, and that If I wanted to take this seriously I would have to continue with real music, the classical piano. It was this that made me give up the piano that same year. Luckily I started again 5 years later but I went it alone this time. I missed the poles but you do you Christian and Just ignore the crap.
One more thing, I listen to Kylie in the car and sing really loudly with the window down, it’s incredibly liberating.
I appreciate what you say in your videos. I especially appreciate this one! Thank you for pointing out the stupidity of the intelligent. We all have to choose to keep the learning switch on. Keep jammin the DFAM!
Love, love, love your music moron analysis. I think you’ve done an excellent job of describing those music audiophile type cretins. Good job. By the way, if you haven’t already, listen to Beyonce’s sister Solange. She has a track - Cranes in the sky which is absolutely superb from the album Seat at the table. 5 stars.
A man vlogging in NYC streets, I see you like to live dangerously! I can barely chew gum while walking the NYC streets.
The - Architect it was fucking terrifying.
:), that can be applied to whole of New York City!
Spendor should watch this video and put metal grills on the tweeters in their Classic line speakers.
Best 10 mins of my day
Christian, loved your video.
Funny as F__k!
Lemonade while not the sort of music I would choose to listen to - I feel it is a brilliant production with really well crafted songs
Ugh... so good. This snob and troll attitude is rampant in the studio gear world too. Everyone says "if is sounds good it is good," but then turn around to snob it up over new tech, cheap tech, and whatever else isn't the exact thing they're sure is the best thing that was and shall ever be invented, usually devolving into personal attacks and name calling.
This was as good as any sermon in most gothic hell-fearing buildings.
"Special club in a gothic kind of building"--bwaaaahahahaha!!!!! Hopefully, one day, we can compare notes. (One of my "greatest hits" is having been LITERALLY given up for Lent. Which, I guess, is supposed to be a compliment?)
The hardest question I get as a musician/producer/engineer/general idiot/mini-narcissist is “what kind of music do you like”.
It usually gets answers with “I like music that doesn’t suck”. Because that’s the only way I can clarify my feelings. From Yanni to Slayer, if it was performed well, produced in an interesting manner, recorded well, and “doesn’t suck”... I’m game for a listen.
Well done as always Christian. I actually enjoy listening to your rants.
John Adams defined it as "something that stimulates all of your cognitive resources".
My least favorite term is "guilty pleasures" in reference to music. Saying you feel guilty for liking something is admitting you are not man (or woman) enough to own your own taste. Why would anyone in his right mind want to like LESS music? To be seen as superior? It boggles me.
Spot on! Spot on!
I got home, put my ipod on the desk (i was listening to Arvo Part, different album but the artist shown at 0:45)
So that was even funnier to me when you slid quickly to Beyoncé. And i totally agree about pretty much everything in this so this comment is just a hello. Hi.
Good day, cheers.
Lovely video
Hang on a minute, the 40.2s' are 11k a pair and you've got... 3 PAIRS!!!??? What in the name of Brett Kavanaugh....
sonicindustries I didn’t pay THAT for them!!! I only have two pairs and a pair of HL5 pluses... these in my humble opinion are the best all rounders and trouble even the biggest rooms in your house.
Lol - fair enough. Speaker Holy Grail aren't they? Wonder if Harbeth would take my Regas' in part ex.(hm.. no)
Here here. My pet hate is the term guilty pleasure when it comes to music; on that basis should I feel guilty when one of my favourite artists does a track I don't like? You like what you like
Fantastic.
A piece de resistance, Christian, against all the people who leave snarky, uninformed comments at just about every site you can think of. I do like it when you start drawing diagrams, the spectrum from 'bless' to 'we're all fucked' made me laugh out loud. Great to hear some forthright talking about the scourge of the putdown culture so prevalent online. Love it when you connect what you do with wider issues of living in this chaotic world - if music doesn't touch on that then it is not worth much anyway. (And Lemonade does in that in spades)
Musical snobbery breeds small mindedness, which in turn stifles creativity. A hard lesson to learn in some cases. Thanks for the video Christian!
What wisdom!
@christianhensonmusic I am an audiophile myself and never liked Beyoncé but after your video I gave it a go. Lemonade is a masterpiece of diversity between genres. Great album
Ha! BEST LINE TOTALLY GOT ME: “...something, ‘gotta fly Qantas’ about his reaction to Beyoncé.”
10/10
You're a bloody legend, mate.
Ranting + cogent argument + self-awareness + swearings + Bey = HappySuperFun
Christian, you're an incredibly talented composer and teacher. You're way more open minded than somehow your appearance suggests and, best of all, you're a bit of a scientist, too... which is why I watch your channel. If you say Beyonce is brilliant, I believe you. I learned long ago not to judge music as great or crap - as some of the simplest melodies and arrangements make the most beautiful music. I wouldn't listen to Beyonce because her music doesn't inspire me or move me. Being a melancholy bastard, I tend to gravitate more toward artists like Ben Howard, who are completely, undeniably fucking awesome. All that being said -dropping a C bomb here and there is fine but I nearly tuned our after you uttered the unbearable phrase 'reached out' ...
Love it. Well said sir ;-)
Perfect!!!!!
I got here for a Harbeth review. However, I enjoyed this video, and now I’ll watch the factory visit one!
I spilt my tea at the C-bomb. Very funny.
I really started to hope, perhaps unrealistically that Beyonce was actually going to turn up in this video, while you were in New York; maybe somehow with Hans Zimmer, to throw some sass on those haters. haha. That would have been amazing! Good video though Christian, and while I do disagree with the idea of you going more political and religous (topically) in these vids, defo risking some sales at Spitfire long term from that kind of direction; theres no way given how big Spitfire is now that you haven't considered that..Which in of itself deserves some respect. Make sure you're always creative in whichever way you feel is right for you, regardless of us lot. Never silence that inner creative voice... Even if it just wants to say c**t, haha. It's almost like you could have been in The Sex Pistols! Anyway this one made me chuckle a fair bit, keep going.
I think he can be pretty safe in assuming that most money spitfire makes in sales comes from an audience that even if they dislike his personal political view, would not hesitate to buy his software because of it, since the company isn't sponsoring any political party or candidate.
listen to crazy frog on the harbeth's will blow your mind
I agree 100%. All music has it's merits and I've lost count of the times that I've said to people who don't like a particular genre of music that they are basically calling the million or more people idiots...
I think there is a gulf between not liking a type of music and calling those who do idiots. You are basically negating anyone the right to express a dislike.
The initial reasoning for making this video is so absurd. People are fucking idiots, but you were able to turn it into something interesting and took us on a journey with this video. Thanks Christian.
Hey Christian, if you haven't already, grab a copy of Sia's "1000 forms of fear". Another amazing album from a female artist. Sonically very impressive.
Thieving thugs can make it a round trip and a half. For the community of this channel, I have started my first music picture project for a film on a free composer basis and I wouldn't have achieved what I have so far without learning tips and tricks from this coming from a session musician background, and an entry level videographer but an ace fast offline and online editor.
"There's only two kinds of music - the good stuff, and the other stuff; and who's interested in the other stuff(?)" - Duke Ellington
On finding out that I was listening to jazz my secondary school music teacher took half-an-hour of their time to tell me how it was inferior because 'they were just making it all up as they went along'. Somehow, it seems, making it all up beforehand was better music. But didn't those people making it up beforehand just make it up as they went along too - just, at a different time?
Brilliant...
Some jazz is interesting, some is good, but a lot is awful and most don't have time to wait around and listen to meandering nonsense that rarely pays off.
Most people like a melody and a good beat and a syncopated bridge which ties everything together quite nicely. It's that syncopated bridge where your jazz lies.
Most people don't hate jazz, it's that they enjoy jazz elements in limited amounts to compliment the music they do like.
3.44... Brilliant! 😂
Thank you Christian, thanks to you, I will go to bed tonight less stupid, even if I admit that I will not extend the experience. I also admit that I never listened to an entire album of Beyoncé - not even a single piece of her music - and that I wanted to try. As we say at home: "It's done!" (« Ca, c’est fait ! ») and I must admit that I appreciated some pieces, and that f.....g big sound !
For the rest of your comments, totally agree. And another expression from us (I quote a French singer, Brassens): "When we're stupid, we're stupid." (« Quand on est con, on est con! »)I hope we can find a good translation: this is a good illustration of your remarks about snobs, retrograde and short minded people.
Continue to teach me things, make me laugh (keep on grumble) and share other points of view than mine, and in addition, it helps me to progress in English!
I must have watched this video more than ten times now. I am a bit of a fan of Beyonce's, but I am a huge fan of your categorisation of TH-cam trolls. It is really incredible what people will write in the comments sections. But then again - if that opportunity to vent will keep them from beating up their wives, I suppose we should let them.
Jonathon Pie 😂
I'm amazed that someone will buy a £20,000 pound pair of speakers without listening to them on the grounds that the tweeters are hard for children to damage. I assume what we see at the beginning is not his listening setup!
Bravo 👏👏👏 Eloquent!
You're Musically Deep Christian. I see why I like Spitfire. #RESPECT
I too had a snobbish professor who inversely shaped the course of my music education when he told me John Williams is a hack and that "every note of Howard Shore's Lord of the Rings was stolen." Proof that the snobbery and criticism surrounding film music is often more than criticism of "modern" scores, but a negative view of the entire medium in general.
Contempt prior to investigation! Today has been a great day. The nightmare of the past four years is over. They played Beyoncé tonight when Kamala walked out to deliver her speech. Happy to hear you have daughters. Lemonade is crazy good btw.