He left out the best part of the ending (on purpose possibly to go visit the website), but to everyone who said the ending was anti-climatic, basically here's what happened. The naval officer comes and sees the kids and their savagery. He is ashamed of what they've done and sees them as beasts themselves, but then awkwardly looks back at his own war ship. It's a great ending/allegory.
On a slightly less depressive note; a real life lord of a the flies situation actually happened once, a group of boys (age 13-16 admittedly older than the ones in the book who is like 6-12) got stuck on a deserted island. And it actually went pretty well. They used to sing together in the evening to keep their spirits up, they made a vegetable garden and caught the wild hens there, and when one of the broke their leg, they tied it up and looked after him. When they were saved the leg was perfectly healed
Happens all the time: the schoolyard bully who persecutes while others stand aside and look or laugh; the politicians who lie to make war and send soldiers who murder civilians following orders they say; police officers who shoot to kill the unarmed accused but can’t seem to take down the mass shooter; frat boys who get drunk and gang rape the girl they have drugged; mobs who maraud and lynch any passing scapegoat; mobs Aka juries who convict the innocent on scant evidence and crucify was hem but let the perpetrator walk on a technicality; political parties that organize to enact genocide against their opponents;...I could continue this toward infinity, right?
@@Will-gq6gn Lmfao indeed, I was forced to read it for school and found it kinda boring... Until I reached chapter 5, then things just started to get weird and everything went downwards, I like horror stories but holy shit this was awkward xD
@@jongoldey3842 Lol, idiot. I have NEVER met an intelligent Trump supporter. Not even once. Plenty of sociopaths though... surprising absolutely noone.
Still in your angsty teenage atheist stage. Someday you will be a rational atheist and cringe at statements like that. The reason a leader of the choir becomes the leader of the savages is because narcissism and inflated self worth, coupled with a desire for authority can make anyone dangerous.
I don't understand why everyone love Piggy more than Simon. I mean Piggy was close to being good but Simon was above and beyond being a good, I mean he literally represented a christ-like figure and the only one who knew the truth about the Beast.
***** Some versions of a sociopath aren't horrible. They just don't go along with the definition of society. Simon was above society. So yes, he was a sociopath, but it wasn't a horrible thing.
Simon was my favourite character! This book parallels the bible and simon is literally represented as jesus because of his beliefs that no one agrees with and that he died trying to tell the others and save them. I love the story line of this book, but I never really got into the way it was written so I wasn't interested as much as I should have been.
Lizzy Lorrayne I'm sure people like me who favor Piggy realize that Simon was less likely out of the two to lose his sense of purity and good intent, but... people can have a favorite character... that they acknowledge isn't the most selfless out of all of them
My favorite line of the book, said by Jack: "We’ve got to have rules and obey them. After all, we’re not savages. We’re English, and the English are best at everything."
*As he then turns into a savage who kills his friends* Yep, totally, mate. In all honesty though, he probably would've been the last to live. He was good at hunting and keeping himself alive, in any case.
@@EmiPlayzMC idk, i'm pretty sure the only times he managed to kill pigs were with help, also the island was filled with fruits and fish also exists, so seriously hunting pigs was just an obssesion, not a priority.
@@ultimateme3049 exactly, jack was obsessed with hunting because he could somehow impose is power over another creature, watching its blood flow and feeling almighty. He liked this sense of brutality
@@lucreziapellanda9288 I also think he liked it because it was an escape from the trauma he was suffering. Jack was obviously struggling with his mental health, so although he is an unlikeable git, I can sympathise for him because that kid has obviously been through shit
He misses the end! The most important part! Essentially, a Naval officer found the island and the boys. He was astonished by their savagery and the death of Piggy and Simon. Ralph has a realization/grieving moment over Piggy and Simon, and Ralph realizes that he and the others will never be the same again. The naval officer is embarrassed with their screams and crying. He is still in shock of the fact they murdered two kids. I think that when he looks back at his ship he realizes that not only have the boys unleashed war and savagery, but the grown ups have also unleashed some form of savagery that is justified to resolve issues. I think that this book can have many lessons on anyone, even if they do believe the ending was "anti-climactic".
I also laugh at how they always say, "what will the grown ups think." Sadly, on a much larger scale, the grown ups resort to such violence and savagery.
jesus christ I HATED Jack and I honestly didn't expect any deaths in this book so I was so shocked when I read that Simon was dead and then Piggy's head was split open
Patricio Garcia *immature I understand how it can get confusing, some words with the prefix “in-“ make words mean the opposite of their original meaning, like “inhuman” and “infamous”
@@fine-n-dandy mybe he just tought that because of the lack of adults they nedeed to become adults and think like them in order to survive in a civilized way
Nikunj Majithia The author has been dead for over 21 years. He wrote the book in 1949 at the age of 38. It was published in 1954 and has since sold over 150 million copies. How is the author an old fart?
Nikunj Majithia Is that really a well known saying or did you just make it up? However, it wasn't just that it sold over 150 million copies but it has been on top book lists as judged by panels of experts, publishers and journalists. It also won Golding a Nobel Prize for literature. What measure of a books literary merits do you propose? You didn't answer my question. How is the author an "old fart" when he wrote the book at age 38?
Boltz | James Moore I didnt make it up i heard it from somewhere search it up and im insulting him because i saw an picture of his old self on the book
Roger threw a rock at Piggy which DIDN'T miss. "The rock struck Piggy a glancing blow from chin to knee; the conch exploded into a thousand white fragments and ceased to exist. Piggy, saying nothing, with no time for even a grunt, traveled through the air sideways from the rock, turning over as he went […]. Piggy fell forty feet and landed on his back across the square red rock in the sea. His head opened and stuff came out and turned red. Piggy's arms and legs twitched a bit, like a pig's after it has been killed. " Piggy's intelligence was smeared all over a rock and the rule of law destroyed. Roger is a dick.
@@joed2431 Roger is just a kid.... It's just that if he had some adult to keep him on track, to deal with his mental illness nothing like that would have happened... You can't blame the kid.
sixteen numbeRthree They just put it in a furnace, and it comes out when it's fully cooked! Haven't you ever played Minecraft? Speaking of which, how is is physically possible that it can feed more than 3 people without Looting...
The whole story is hard to believe. They crash land on a deserted island wake up fine but the plane and the pilot get sucked in the water? How they get out?
Roger sharpened a stick at both ends. Anyone needs a fact to show Roger's blatant sadism, link it to a clear intent to behead Ralph. Jesus, that's so chilling.
Wow imagine the story kept going and the naval officer arrived way later and like half the boys' heads are lined up on the beach. Lol "u mind telling me just what in the fuck happened here?"
I always wondered what’d happen, especially in Roger and Jack’s case, if the naval officer arrived later on. Like, give it a month or so. One can assume all the remaining boys would be murdered by either Jack or Roger until only those two were left. But throughout it all, would Roger be planning Jack’s demise? Only because he can very well chew Jack out? Or will Jack have Roger on a leash until the day of their rescue because of Roger’s loyalty to superior statuses?
@@thatonesomali3217 Ralph would have died and Roger would eventually take the role as chief. If Jack disagreed with it, then he would probably kill him. I'm not sure if anyone would try to challenge Roger, but I'm sure that a lot of people would die, and they wouldn't have many resources because of burning the whole forest down. Speaking of which, they would've burned the whole forest down, so they wouldn't have nay resources to start the fire, and even if they did, they would probably only do it if they wanted to cook something, meaning that they would never get rescued and would die killing each other or from a lack of resources, so I guess it's good that they got rescued right then and there.
As someone who has needed glasses since early childhood (5 years old), I can say that not having glasses would only impair my vision and not completely take it away. I'd still be able to see and make out faces, the slight fuzziness would just get annoying at some point but will be bearable.
@ you're trash and so is your fandom I guess it all depends on your prescription. Mine prescription is worse so I wouldn't be able to do anything in his shoes
ironic how jack actually gets them rescued by setting the whole island on fire and getting the officer to come and investigate. Edit after 3 years: damn thanks for the likes LOL
Except that if they hadn't have gotten rescued right away, they would've all either died of the smoke and fire themselves or starved (burned the whole island and all of its flora and fauna).
One problem with this. At the end of the book, it only said that Ralph started weeping followed by the little kids. The rest of the older kids didn't weep at all and I think it's because unlike Ralph and the younger boys, they've lost all innocence and they do not care about the tragedies that they have endured.
"... the other little boys began to shake and sob too..." What you say seems right. But "little boys" here might refer to all of them since there are adults in the environment. Just a different interpretation, might be wrong tho.
I'm glad I'm not the only one hurt by Piggy's death. Everyone treated him so poorly I was beginning to feel I was the only one who even wanted to learn his real name. :c
Remember when he said that Simon's death was an "accident" and that Simon had it coming?? Welp, he got a taste of his own medicine. Either way it's just a fictional story so yeah.
William Golding based this book as a retelling of The Coral Island. In this book there are three characters on an island, named Ralph, Jack and Peter. Therefore, we can only assume that Piggy’s real name is Peter!
darr3nx Ralph was mostly chosen because he was beautiful not biggest, while Jack was ugly that's why people didn't like him. Jack is constantly described as being the tallest in the book, while Ralph isn't once described as being tall. Maybe just more muscly, but not tall. Jack is the tall one. Although Jack becomes muscly too later (jack's "sinewy body" - William Golding). Probably that's another reason Jack eventually wins.
***** Ralph is more muscly, but beautiful and average in height. Jack is described as being ugly, but tallest out of all the boys. Simon is actually described as being the shortest one.
I’m genuinely curious on how this would turn out when they meet their parents again. How mulberry boy’s parents and Simon’s parents and Piggy’s aunty would have to be told that they were all killed on the island. And what if they found out Jack was the reason for Simon’s and Piggy’s deaths, along with the wildfire. That would probably be traumatizing for Jack’s parents to hear.
Not only that, but all the boys had a part in Simon's death (with Jack initiating their state of paranoia and craziness) and Roger was the one who killed Piggy. At the very least Jack and Roger are going to get some serious talks and maybe even charges, and all the boys are going to have a terrible memory of the night of Simon's death.
@@strangerkitties9996 The story establishes they were being evacuated when their plane went down and the bombs went off so it’s very likely the UK’s been destroyed
Considering that they were English boys ----- you know about the James Bulger murder? When they found out his killers were children, they just let them off the hook with new identities.
The book needed to end with Ralph versus everyone. So the destiny of the characters was to come on Jack's side, or die..... And obviously, we prefer Simon and Piggy because they die and don't betray Ralph.
@@elio22bbl It'd be pretty funny if ralph found some real guns or wepons of some sort which landed on the island during the air battle, and used it to kill all the other boys.
I knew Piggy was going to die since chapter one, because my sister told me it was a book about "kids killing themselfs". Piggy was too weak, it was sure his death then. But didn't expected Simon's. I feel really sad. He's the only one aware of the truth of the beast.
Throwing rocks would be understandable if a kid were eight years old, as kids around that age generally have no idea that people are not cartoony NPCs. However, Roger was about 10-12, like Jack and Ralph. He must have been aware that throwing a massive boulder at Piggy would, at the very least, maim him. After Piggy dies rather gruesomely at his hands, he shows absolutely no remorse, instead proceeding to torture Sam and Eric. Later on, the kid helps Jack and the other boys hunt down Ralph with the clear intention of killing him, and would have even mounted Ralph’s severed head on a stick if they had caught him. Even if Roger’s not a sociopath in the strictly medical sense of the word, he’s clearly a violent, malicious, and unstable demon-seed with a noticeable empathy deficit.
This reminds me a little bit of the Stanford prison experiment.when you put a group in a certain environment, their psychological mind states automatically start altering and changing.
@@howardbaxter2514 The prison guards knew that they were in an experiment, and so they felt conditioned to treat the prisoners awfully. It doesn't show shit about human nature if they were effected by outside forces
@@anyonespigcrapsilop707 Possibly. I had trouble understanding much of Lord of the Flies, when I read it back in high school, because of all the metaphors and wording choices. I watched the original movie, of course. But, I somehow missed the fact that Ralph was involved in killing Simon there too; since his involvement in the act wasn’t emphasized much in the movie.
@TamptheChamp2 this dude was NOT a writer, and I believe this was his only book - definitely the only one that got any notice. I don't think he actually did that great a job at explaining what was going on in the story or at answering questions raised during the book. So much of it was just very vague and general 'this happened, then this happened'. I never felt you actually got to know any of the characters that well - they didn't feel like real people to me. The pacing is horrible too, and he saved almost ALL the action and interesting parts for the very end of the book. I always felt like it was one of those books you are 'supposed ' to like because you're told it's fantastic, and not because it actually is.
Piggy as well, and Sam n Eric. Although Ralph and Piggy both mention they were on the outside of the circle and never actually hurt Simon, but they were still in the circle and cheered for his death.
I loved this book. I think most people who "hate it" are from one of three camps: 1. People who hate reading. 2. People who hate being forced to read something for school assignments. 3. People who can't accept the message that, at the end of the day, all human beings are not above savagery no matter how civilized they believe they are or can be.
This is a good summary but it lacks essential details and explanations in certain parts. For example he didn't say why the boys killed Simon (because they thought he was the beast)
@@vigopepperpopper5353 no they thought it was the beast. the part I think you are thinking of is a segment where Jack and the hunters are doing the game where they chant and pretend to attack someone who pretens to be a pig. But in this perticular case, the person is stung and doesn't really think its that fun. Don't remember who was 'the pig', maybe it was Simon (foreshadowing?)
The part that impressed me most was the part where flies swarmed around Simons head that basically foresaw his death, as the 'lord of the flies' was also covered with flies after it died. It made me understand the whole meaning of the book suddenly.
They would just go back to being the boys they were before..the point being that a civilised law abiding society is only skin deep and that given the right circumstances humans can quickly turn to savagery.
im honestly obsessed with lord of the flies now. all the interesting twist that you only realize after youve read the book twice. im totally gonna get an A on my essay
When Roger killed Piggy, I wanted to go in to the book and beat the crap out of Jack and Roger, I mean fucking really, this is why you should never have a favorite character in a book.
i cant decide whether to like the comment because i feel the same way, or to dislike because of the cursing because i dont curse... help me please......
As my religion taught me, cursing isn't a sin, as long as it's not direct. If you're upset or stub your toe, screaming profanity as being human, but if you swear at someone, that's a bad act.
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Take book with grain of salt, since it is a work of fiction with an author who pushed his biased anti- capitalism views. In actually an incident did really happen close to the premise of the book but in real life none of the violence took place. Once again a book pushing a biased view.
Yeah! That would be really cool because the story line of the book is actually really good, including all the symbolism, but a lot of people don't like how he somewhat over explains details and the story could drag on at certain points... So yeah, a graphic novel would be amazing!
I love your summarization I just wish you talked more on Jack in the beginning. He respected Ralph and his ideas but at the same time he wanted to hunt and do what he thought was right. He even regretted and was apologetic over the fire going out
I literally had no idea the story was so deep psychologically. I read it as a young teen, and only got a small level of the deepness of this literature. Thank you for sharing this
yeah, it was written during the cold war paranoia( after Hiroshima) , so Golding set it a few years into the future when he thought it would already break out, at least that's my understanding.
You left out the ending. The officer expresses his disappointment at seeing British boys exhibiting such feral, warlike behaviour before turning to stare awkwardly at his own warship. We are all lords of the flies.
Lord of the Flies is one of only two books I’ve read where I had the experience of losing my ego and felt as if I had been transported to the scene. This was the scene when Jack was hunting Ralph. This was 50 years ago.
Is it weird that when I first heard of "Lord of the Flies" my first thought was Lord of the Rings but the characters are actual flies *bug!Gandalf:* (caught by the tongue of the Bal-Frog) "FLY YOU FOOLS!"
@@wtfyoutube4873 but it is what he said in the movie, which is more relevant in popular media nowadays. people are more likely to understand the reference from the movie then they are to understand a reference from the book. I can't believe I have to explain this to you
Every time my older son, when he was a kid, would go outside to play, it was like lord of the flies within 15 minutes. I’d have to bring him inside every time. He had to be supervised every minute until he was 14. I love him with all my heart; but he was exhausting. He’s doing great now. He’s got a good job, new car and nice apt. Got it all by himself. He’s saved a lot of money too. I wasn’t sure he’d be able to do all that when he was a kid.
Thank you for not giving upon him. He could have turned out very differently if it wasn't for your patience, guidance, love, and discipline. I grew up next to a kid who was a terrible bully and all-around-jerk. By High School he had outgrown most of that. 40 years later he still feels terrible about it LOL. I've realized some kids are just maniacs and require tons of support and supervision. Without that they probably become criminals.
About Simon's Death: I believe the ritualistic dance combined with their newfound power over life and death induced a hysteric bloodthirsty in the boys, in the end, all was unleashed into poor Simon who just arrived bringing unwelcome reason. The contrast was so much at that moment his life meant little more than being fuel for their rising Psychosis.
When I first read the book, I was like, okay, but then I read the notes, watched this, and watched a bit of the summary and then I was like, "HOLY FUCK MAN."
This book is very fascinating and deeply moving. It is very symbolic, and it made me ponder things very thoroughly. Things like: "Why do people like being rebellious?" and "How can rebellion cause that much of a trouble". And in pondering those thoughts, I have found my answer. The flesh loves to be rebellious. It's very easily tempted toward the things that are evil in this world. We love to sin.... As long as we live, there will be sin or evil in this world. And as long as there is sin and evil in this world, also will there be fear. As long as we keep our hearts at least somewhat pure, we will be able to stay sane. But if we let evil corrupt us, change us, then we will be defenseless against fear, and in that, we take very drastic measures to try to prove to ourselves that we're not afraid. If you've read this and you choose to listen to me, all I have to say is this. Don't let fear corrupt you, ladies and gentlemen. Hope for the best. In the end, it could be the determining factor of whether or not you make it.
Gabriel Edwards Roger is way worse than Jack he is way more savage and uncaring because he just ducking used the lever to push the rock off the mountain to kill piggy
Love these comments but I’m not seeing enough Roger hate. I literally had to play Roger in a mock trial and it was impossible- there’s no way to defend him, a literal sociopath who killed for the fun of it
All throughout the book when ever they bring up the conch I would always think about spongebob and the magic conch shell, than I put the 2 together. By following the conch spongebob and Patrick got the things that they needed. Squidward refused to listen to the conch and goes crazy oof
Simon : Mystic Piggy : Intellectual Ralph : Political hope for the boys Jack : Wielder of phsical power Mountain : Dignity of the man Counch shell : Authority Rock : Brute force 2021/6/30 18:35 Pm
Instead of watching the movie because of an assessment I decided to watch this and its kinda interesting and deep, I think its more detailed in the book
lol, everyone here in the comments is posting about how much they hated it. It's a gritty, well written story. If you don't have the patience to read this book, you are seriously missing out
Happytea The book is brilliant. I was assigned this for school and immediately thought I would hate it. I hate reading but I became invested in this book and I cried at the end. The original movie was pretty good, the remake was okay, but the actual book is truly great. You should read it or listen to the audio read aloud by William Golding himself, it really helps you to understand it
Yeah it sad that some of them were just little kids who were scared because they were on island and that jack took there fear to gain control over them so that they would take his side
I loved reading this in highschool. Allegories are awesome. It was a part of an English class unit called The Dark Side of Humanity. Macbeth was included in the reading too.
+Ronan Fox After Roger killed Piggy, all the boys, including Jack, became wary of him as they know he is capable of murdering anybody. Do you think that Roger became more powerful than Jack towards the end of the book?
These SparkNotes videos are great. They give us some very helpful recaps of classic literature. I found SparkNotes and their videos to be useful when doing book reports or assignments for English class.
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Imagine how awkward the boat ride back was, like just jack talking to Ralph “Hey uh, sorry for killing Simon and piggy. And trying to kill you too.”
Check the amount of likes
Bruh and like they go to the same school and shit after and everything just gets more awkward
@@naninani2795 Hi! I'm Ralph and my life is kinda crazy-
I think Ralph would mysteriously fall overboard at night.
You forget about the war
He left out the best part of the ending (on purpose possibly to go visit the website), but to everyone who said the ending was anti-climatic, basically here's what happened. The naval officer comes and sees the kids and their savagery. He is ashamed of what they've done and sees them as beasts themselves, but then awkwardly looks back at his own war ship. It's a great ending/allegory.
@The Ocean You're a dickhead for asking him that, lol. XD
Vachella oh cool
Gay
@@thek3317 Oh ok thats what I thought
"kinda" it is racist
On a slightly less depressive note; a real life lord of a the flies situation actually happened once, a group of boys (age 13-16 admittedly older than the ones in the book who is like 6-12) got stuck on a deserted island. And it actually went pretty well. They used to sing together in the evening to keep their spirits up, they made a vegetable garden and caught the wild hens there, and when one of the broke their leg, they tied it up and looked after him. When they were saved the leg was perfectly healed
Awe... I love the real-life shipwrecked boys’ story!
Hitting puberty is a big advantage in my opinion.
Happens all the time: the schoolyard bully who persecutes while others stand aside and look or laugh; the politicians who lie to make war and send soldiers who murder civilians following orders they say; police officers who shoot to kill the unarmed accused but can’t seem to take down the mass shooter; frat boys who get drunk and gang rape the girl they have drugged; mobs who maraud and lynch any passing scapegoat; mobs Aka juries who convict the innocent on scant evidence and crucify was hem but let the perpetrator walk on a technicality; political parties that organize to enact genocide against their opponents;...I could continue this toward infinity, right?
Not sure you’re being truthful ( no citations) but that too is possible. Free will. Choice.
@@Will-gq6gn Lmfao indeed, I was forced to read it for school and found it kinda boring... Until I reached chapter 5, then things just started to get weird and everything went downwards, I like horror stories but holy shit this was awkward xD
The really scary part is that Jack knew there wasn’t any beast, he wanted to use fear to control the other boys. Lunatic
wait does it say that in the book or did you infer that lol i want to say it in class to my teacher hehe
simra sayeed
Yes
he and Ralph had agreed that there wasnt any beast, but jack used everyones fear to gain control
Kind of like our modern day democrats
@@zoezzzarko1117 just like coronavirus
@@jongoldey3842 Lol, idiot. I have NEVER met an intelligent Trump supporter. Not even once. Plenty of sociopaths though... surprising absolutely noone.
R.I.P. Simon, the only one on the island who was truly moral.
***** No, Simon is moral. Piggy is science/reason, reason and science can both be bad.
***** Yeah, but Odood19 said moral.
Odood19 But reason is the foundation of morality; if you by Immanuel Kant who states that a rational being with a good will is a moral person.
CosmoShidan The key to your statement is someone with good will. Plenty of those who are "evil" are capable of reason and logic.
And Piggy too :D
The conversation with Simon and the Lord of the Flies was an extremely deep talk
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the real "lord of the flies" is actually Jack though
Voopi Doopi I like that! As well, another word for the devil is “The Lord of the Flies”
I like the way they foreshadow Piggy so hard
I am still so confused by that. I guess that is the key of the book but I didn't get it
I just realized the episode of spongebob with the magic conch was alluding to this.
+Noah Strehle Yeah so did I xD
Magic conch shell?....YOU MEAN LIKE THIS?!
+Maria TheGallant ALL HAIL THE MAGIC CONCH SHELL!
HAHAHAHAHAH OMFG you made my day XDDDD
+Noah Strehle The Simpsons borrowed from this story also.
My childhood is now more interesting.
Piggy = science
Ralph = democracy
Simon= spirituality
Jack= an embodiment of the factors that make societies fall apart
Jack: Emotions and Shadow of human psyche (maybe)
@@CasperFiles1969 more like the beast servant
I see it as Ralph is an example of democracy and jake is an example of authoritarian government
John Doe yah, he would tho I think he represents the primal nature of humans to survive
Jack = Hitler according to my English teacher
I find it ironic that Jack was the leader of a Church Choir. You'd think he'd be the one clinging to morality and civilization.
He's a ginger tho
it's to further emphasise how evil can come from anyone and unlikely places
I believe not
I didn't know it was a church choir. I thought they were a regular school choir.
Still in your angsty teenage atheist stage. Someday you will be a rational atheist and cringe at statements like that. The reason a leader of the choir becomes the leader of the savages is because narcissism and inflated self worth, coupled with a desire for authority can make anyone dangerous.
I read this book in school, and I was so sad when Simon died. He was my favorite, and the most sane.
Breadstick-11 [Brooke] i agree that he was the best... but the most sane? He heard a pig head talk lol
(I’m kidding I know the symbolism)
Thought piggy was the most sane and civil of them all
You're really had to spoil it I was gonna wacth the movie but thanks
Brooklyn the Bat Productions I didn’t really understand how he died..
@@BIG_BOYY1108 This video is a plot summary of the entire story and Simon's death happens midway through, your comment is so dumb I can't even
I don't understand why everyone love Piggy more than Simon. I mean Piggy was close to being good but Simon was above and beyond being a good, I mean he literally represented a christ-like figure and the only one who knew the truth about the Beast.
***** Some versions of a sociopath aren't horrible. They just don't go along with the definition of society. Simon was above society. So yes, he was a sociopath, but it wasn't a horrible thing.
Simon was my favourite character! This book parallels the bible and simon is literally represented as jesus because of his beliefs that no one agrees with and that he died trying to tell the others and save them. I love the story line of this book, but I never really got into the way it was written so I wasn't interested as much as I should have been.
MOMOtheMONKEY16 Omg same but I didn't want to bring religion into this
Lizzy Lorrayne I'm sure people like me who favor Piggy realize that Simon was less likely out of the two to lose his sense of purity and good intent, but... people can have a favorite character... that they acknowledge isn't the most selfless out of all of them
I like both but to me Piggy seems to have a certain innocence that makes me feel really bad for him.
My favorite line of the book, said by Jack: "We’ve got to have rules and obey them. After all, we’re not savages. We’re English, and the English are best at everything."
*As he then turns into a savage who kills his friends*
Yep, totally, mate.
In all honesty though, he probably would've been the last to live. He was good at hunting and keeping himself alive, in any case.
@@EmiPlayzMC idk, i'm pretty sure the only times he managed to kill pigs were with help, also the island was filled with fruits and fish also exists, so seriously hunting pigs was just an obssesion, not a priority.
@@ultimateme3049 exactly, jack was obsessed with hunting because he could somehow impose is power over another creature, watching its blood flow and feeling almighty. He liked this sense of brutality
Irony, eh?
@@lucreziapellanda9288 I also think he liked it because it was an escape from the trauma he was suffering. Jack was obviously struggling with his mental health, so although he is an unlikeable git, I can sympathise for him because that kid has obviously been through shit
simon deserved BETTER
kota poor kid
Piggy too though
Yeah piggy too
Yes yes he did
SHUT UP, I DON'T WANNA HEAR HIS NAME AGAIN :'(
He misses the end! The most important part! Essentially, a Naval officer found the island and the boys. He was astonished by their savagery and the death of Piggy and Simon. Ralph has a realization/grieving moment over Piggy and Simon, and Ralph realizes that he and the others will never be the same again. The naval officer is embarrassed with their screams and crying. He is still in shock of the fact they murdered two kids. I think that when he looks back at his ship he realizes that not only have the boys unleashed war and savagery, but the grown ups have also unleashed some form of savagery that is justified to resolve issues. I think that this book can have many lessons on anyone, even if they do believe the ending was "anti-climactic".
I also laugh at how they always say, "what will the grown ups think." Sadly, on a much larger scale, the grown ups resort to such violence and savagery.
Ralph didn’t die....
You said “savagery and the death of piggy and ralph” You need to reread your comment and fix your mistakes
@@Bluemantopvids thank u
@@Bluemantopvids 🤓
jesus christ I HATED Jack and I honestly didn't expect any deaths in this book so I was so shocked when I read that Simon was dead and then Piggy's head was split open
Also . The boy with the mulberry scar died in a fire
@@elokagwam3938 dang 😭 and none of the actual trolls died what the heck
Wait didn't piggy Get blind
@@ItzzAshh_ nah i think he just lost his glasses or smth? and then he died
@@rainaoh2564 oh right I watched the flim like 3 years ago sry
“Piggy accuses the boys of acting like kids”
Hmmm yes the floor here is made out of floor
Maybe it should say "for being inmature"???
Patricio Garcia *immature
I understand how it can get confusing, some words with the prefix “in-“ make words mean the opposite of their original meaning, like “inhuman” and “infamous”
@@patriciogarcia5669 thing is, that's taken straight out of the book. Piggy claimed the group was acting like "a crowd of kids".
@@fine-n-dandy mybe he just tought that because of the lack of adults they nedeed to become adults and think like them in order to survive in a civilized way
@@patriciogarcia5669 that's a neat way to look at it, i like it :D
I waited for Jack to die.
But he never did.
I cry.
Its because the author is a old fart.
Nikunj Majithia The author has been dead for over 21 years. He wrote the book in 1949 at the age of 38. It was published in 1954 and has since sold over 150 million copies. How is the author an old fart?
droceretik havent you heard the saying "all because a public likes someone or soemthing doesnt automaticallly make it/him/her/ good
Nikunj Majithia Is that really a well known saying or did you just make it up? However, it wasn't just that it sold over 150 million copies but it has been on top book lists as judged by panels of experts, publishers and journalists. It also won Golding a Nobel Prize for literature. What measure of a books literary merits do you propose? You didn't answer my question. How is the author an "old fart" when he wrote the book at age 38?
Boltz | James Moore I didnt make it up i heard it from somewhere search it up and im insulting him because i saw an picture of his old self on the book
Roger threw a rock at Piggy which DIDN'T miss.
"The rock struck Piggy a glancing blow from chin to knee; the conch exploded into a thousand white fragments and ceased to exist. Piggy, saying nothing, with no time for even a grunt, traveled through the air sideways from the rock, turning over as he went […]. Piggy fell forty feet and landed on his back across the square red rock in the sea. His head opened and stuff came out and turned red. Piggy's arms and legs twitched a bit, like a pig's after it has been killed. "
Piggy's intelligence was smeared all over a rock and the rule of law destroyed. Roger is a dick.
Rogers an animal in my opinion. Destructive, emotionless, an incapable of any form of reason
@@joed2431 I don't think that's fair to animals
@@tarananantasagar2999 your right. Maybe a murderous, emotionless, bastard fits his profile.
@@joed2431 Roger is just a kid.... It's just that if he had some adult to keep him on track, to deal with his mental illness nothing like that would have happened... You can't blame the kid.
So what your saying is that piggy dies twice
Piggy's death was brutal but then also Simon's :(
JungkBun you must do whatever it takes to surviver
skeleton king noooo them deaths were for no reason not survival lol
JungkBun simon’s was ridiculous as fuck wth
@@skeletonking4119 there deaths had nothing to do with survival
Simons was more brutal since he was killed by all the people he trusted and Piggy was killed by one evil soul.
I honestly hate calling him piggy because he said several times he didn't like it. I wish we learned his real name
his real name is actually peter
This book is based on a book called coral island I think. The man characters in it are called jack Ralph and Peterson so his name was probs peter
Same
rachel cheong wait how do you know?
Royal Pain read my comment ^-^
I always found it hard to believe they cook the pig right.
sixteen numbeRthree They just put it in a furnace, and it comes out when it's fully cooked! Haven't you ever played Minecraft? Speaking of which, how is is physically possible that it can feed more than 3 people without Looting...
@Michael Flynn Then it's true that 'The lord of the flies is in all of them'
The whole story is hard to believe. They crash land on a deserted island wake up fine but the plane and the pilot get sucked in the water? How they get out?
@Michael Flynn radiation from what?
Michael Flynn and where is the radiation coming from
Roger sharpened a stick at both ends.
Anyone needs a fact to show Roger's blatant sadism, link it to a clear intent to behead Ralph. Jesus, that's so chilling.
Wow imagine the story kept going and the naval officer arrived way later and like half the boys' heads are lined up on the beach.
Lol "u mind telling me just what in the fuck happened here?"
that means
I always wondered what’d happen, especially in Roger and Jack’s case, if the naval officer arrived later on. Like, give it a month or so. One can assume all the remaining boys would be murdered by either Jack or Roger until only those two were left. But throughout it all, would Roger be planning Jack’s demise? Only because he can very well chew Jack out? Or will Jack have Roger on a leash until the day of their rescue because of Roger’s loyalty to superior statuses?
If I showed up to a burning island and there was a human’s head on a stick I’d just fucking leave
@@thatonesomali3217 Ralph would have died and Roger would eventually take the role as chief. If Jack disagreed with it, then he would probably kill him. I'm not sure if anyone would try to challenge Roger, but I'm sure that a lot of people would die, and they wouldn't have many resources because of burning the whole forest down. Speaking of which, they would've burned the whole forest down, so they wouldn't have nay resources to start the fire, and even if they did, they would probably only do it if they wanted to cook something, meaning that they would never get rescued and would die killing each other or from a lack of resources, so I guess it's good that they got rescued right then and there.
Imagine being on that island in that situation and someone breaks your glasses so you CAN'T SEE. That would be so discouraging and depressing
As someone who has needed glasses since early childhood (5 years old), I can say that not having glasses would only impair my vision and not completely take it away. I'd still be able to see and make out faces, the slight fuzziness would just get annoying at some point but will be bearable.
@ you're trash and so is your fandom I guess it all depends on your prescription. Mine prescription is worse so I wouldn't be able to do anything in his shoes
Thought the same😂
@@cataisla258 oh yeah? Well I’m blinder than all of you, the blindest 🥇
@@redclanwool1590 fool, I'm so blind it took me 11 months to read this!
Ralph: We all can help
Jack: *feels humiliated*
ironic how jack actually gets them rescued by setting the whole island on fire and getting the officer to come and investigate.
Edit after 3 years: damn thanks for the likes LOL
That is so twisted
Except that if they hadn't have gotten rescued right away, they would've all either died of the smoke and fire themselves or starved (burned the whole island and all of its flora and fauna).
That's the point
Especially when it was his job to make a signal fire.
YOU FUCKING SPOILED THR BOOK FOR ME GOOD FUXKIN JOB
We never did learn Piggy's actual name...
true
+Jayla Hollie they didn't want him to "hog" the attention
+Ian Lai Would of never of got that if you didn't put those quotation marks there.
+Chris Johnson Would "have".
i see what you did there...
One problem with this. At the end of the book, it only said that Ralph started weeping followed by the little kids. The rest of the older kids didn't weep at all and I think it's because unlike Ralph and the younger boys, they've lost all innocence and they do not care about the tragedies that they have endured.
"... the other little boys began to shake and sob too..."
What you say seems right. But "little boys" here might refer to all of them since there are adults in the environment. Just a different interpretation, might be wrong tho.
MaDNiaC Let's resurrect Golding and ask him.
Kristin Greenfield What makes him/her so sure?
Kristin Greenfield In that case, his input isn't really valid. And tell him I said that.
Kristin Greenfield This guy sounds horrible...
I’m screenshotting these intellectual comments to have something to say when my teacher calls on me in class
S T O N K S
@@jean-alexandre5594 Still using Stonks in 2020? What is wrong with you
@@CC-bigig OK boomer
@@jean-alexandre5594 Wow now you've used the stonks AND ok boomer meme wrong.
@@josephpanno6816 OK boomer
I'm glad I'm not the only one hurt by Piggy's death. Everyone treated him so poorly I was beginning to feel I was the only one who even wanted to learn his real name. :c
Remember when he said that Simon's death was an "accident" and that Simon had it coming?? Welp, he got a taste of his own medicine. Either way it's just a fictional story so yeah.
I was wondering his name too.
William Golding based this book as a retelling of The Coral Island. In this book there are three characters on an island, named Ralph, Jack and Peter. Therefore, we can only assume that Piggy’s real name is Peter!
But Saint Peter’s birth name was Simon.. and considering Simon is seen as the ultimately good Jesus-like character..
Maybe. Or maybe Simon could represent Peterkin from coral island
They should have used the magic conch for who gets the food or not.
can I have something to eat?
No
Battlefield Medic can I get something to eat?
no
May I get some thing to eat
also ralph is not described as the oldest and biggest boy in the book, jack is.
Are you sure?..
I remember the description of his character involved his dominance stature compared to the other boys. In the movies, Ralph is smaller than Jack.
darr3nx Ralph was mostly chosen because he was beautiful not biggest, while Jack was ugly that's why people didn't like him.
Jack is constantly described as being the tallest in the book, while Ralph isn't once described as being tall. Maybe just more muscly, but not tall. Jack is the tall one. Although Jack becomes muscly too later (jack's "sinewy body" - William Golding). Probably that's another reason Jack eventually wins.
***** Ralph is more muscly, but beautiful and average in height. Jack is described as being ugly, but tallest out of all the boys. Simon is actually described as being the shortest one.
Ralph was the oldest till the choir group came out from the jungle that included jack
I’m genuinely curious on how this would turn out when they meet their parents again. How mulberry boy’s parents and Simon’s parents and Piggy’s aunty would have to be told that they were all killed on the island. And what if they found out Jack was the reason for Simon’s and Piggy’s deaths, along with the wildfire. That would probably be traumatizing for Jack’s parents to hear.
Not only that, but all the boys had a part in Simon's death (with Jack initiating their state of paranoia and craziness) and Roger was the one who killed Piggy. At the very least Jack and Roger are going to get some serious talks and maybe even charges, and all the boys are going to have a terrible memory of the night of Simon's death.
That's assuming they're still alive since Piggy points out "they're all dead" when he brings up the atomic war at the beginning of the book.
@@Dayman90
Wasn’t that referring to the other passengers on the plane?
@@strangerkitties9996 The story establishes they were being evacuated when their plane went down and the bombs went off so it’s very likely the UK’s been destroyed
Considering that they were English boys ----- you know about the James Bulger murder? When they found out his killers were children, they just let them off the hook with new identities.
So the entire book, my favorite character was Simon...he dies, then it became Piggy...he died as well.....WHY
The book needed to end with Ralph versus everyone. So the destiny of the characters was to come on Jack's side, or die..... And obviously, we prefer Simon and Piggy because they die and don't betray Ralph.
Simon and Piggy were the two rational characters. They were killed because rational thought ceased on this island.
@@elio22bbl It'd be pretty funny if ralph found some real guns or wepons of some sort which landed on the island during the air battle, and used it to kill all the other boys.
@@snarpking XD
@@Z95HeadHunter Ralph was the only ounce of rationality left, and if it had gone on for any longer then he would've died too.
My two favorite characters, Simon and Piggy, get killed so gruesomely. WTF :(
***** Which is what they would've done to Ralph.
I know the feel, bro
Dx I wanted piggy and Simon to live. And then they die.
-cries an eternal ocean-
I knew Piggy was going to die since chapter one, because my sister told me it was a book about "kids killing themselfs". Piggy was too weak, it was sure his death then. But didn't expected Simon's. I feel really sad. He's the only one aware of the truth of the beast.
ikr!
"Fear can't hurt you any more than a dream"
Simon, lord of the flies.
That's actually Jack
@@meiredmond1017 Whoops, nice catch!
Roger *Throws Rocks*
English teachers: S O C I O P A T H
Throwing rocks would be understandable if a kid were eight years old, as kids around that age generally have no idea that people are not cartoony NPCs. However, Roger was about 10-12, like Jack and Ralph. He must have been aware that throwing a massive boulder at Piggy would, at the very least, maim him. After Piggy dies rather gruesomely at his hands, he shows absolutely no remorse, instead proceeding to torture Sam and Eric. Later on, the kid helps Jack and the other boys hunt down Ralph with the clear intention of killing him, and would have even mounted Ralph’s severed head on a stick if they had caught him. Even if Roger’s not a sociopath in the strictly medical sense of the word, he’s clearly a violent, malicious, and unstable demon-seed with a noticeable empathy deficit.
I swear, I just want to beat the fuck out of all these fucking kids
Honesty I'm studying it Wright now and this is so true
@@Cj-xt6tv Except Simon
Roger *Throws Boulder*
English teachers: I fucking told you so!
I just realized that the hunters always kill a pig and then piggy gets killed by the hunters
piggy gets hunted by the hunters that hunted the pig
Thank god i wasn't the only one who noticed this foreshadowing
@@jeremysheehan6051 hey fellow purple J! I whole heartedly agree
This reminds me a little bit of the Stanford prison experiment.when you put a group in a certain environment, their psychological mind states automatically start altering and changing.
That's a shitty example mate
The Stanford Prison Experiment was a hoax made to make the professor behind it look good to his peers.
Ka Y0 How can the train of thought that my mind takes when I watch a video be ‘a shitty example’, mate.
@@PsychopathUltimate while it wasn't a proper experiment, it was eye opening at how savage humans can become when given power.
@@howardbaxter2514 The prison guards knew that they were in an experiment, and so they felt conditioned to treat the prisoners awfully. It doesn't show shit about human nature if they were effected by outside forces
piggy was the only person who knew wtf they were doing like I'm so fucking mad
Hope Roach and simon innocent simon
Hope Roach except he was lazy asf
I’m embarrassed to admit it, but I never realized Ralph took part in killing Simon.
Just a thought, maybe you were like Ralph in that moment, you read it, but something kept you from the realization
@@anyonespigcrapsilop707 Possibly. I had trouble understanding much of Lord of the Flies, when I read it back in high school, because of all the metaphors and wording choices. I watched the original movie, of course. But, I somehow missed the fact that Ralph was involved in killing Simon there too; since his involvement in the act wasn’t emphasized much in the movie.
@TamptheChamp2 this dude was NOT a writer, and I believe this was his only book - definitely the only one that got any notice.
I don't think he actually did that great a job at explaining what was going on in the story or at answering questions raised during the book. So much of it was just very vague and general 'this happened, then this happened'. I never felt you actually got to know any of the characters that well - they didn't feel like real people to me. The pacing is horrible too, and he saved almost ALL the action and interesting parts for the very end of the book.
I always felt like it was one of those books you are 'supposed ' to like because you're told it's fantastic, and not because it actually is.
@@loud6037 very interesting pov
Piggy as well, and Sam n Eric. Although Ralph and Piggy both mention they were on the outside of the circle and never actually hurt Simon, but they were still in the circle and cheered for his death.
How to read a book in 10 minutes
The Smash Buds Podcast no in 9 minutes and 59 seconds
@@oldbaby2304 yes he didnt get that sweet extra ad revenue😂
fax
@@duhuenson5495 Is getting money for your work a bad thing?
ok did it work cause i have school in a week and have 2 books i haven’t read
I loved this book. I think most people who "hate it" are from one of three camps:
1. People who hate reading.
2. People who hate being forced to read something for school assignments.
3. People who can't accept the message that, at the end of the day, all human beings are not above savagery no matter how civilized they believe they are or can be.
Truth
***** Then share your reasons with us. You may add something to the debate. You never know.
NUMBER 2
or just people who dont like to read such "old style" writing
What William said.
This is a good summary but it lacks essential details and explanations in certain parts. For example he didn't say why the boys killed Simon (because they thought he was the beast)
It started as a game and they got carried away.
@@vigopepperpopper5353 no they thought it was the beast. the part I think you are thinking of is a segment where Jack and the hunters are doing the game where they chant and pretend to attack someone who pretens to be a pig. But in this perticular case, the person is stung and doesn't really think its that fun. Don't remember who was 'the pig', maybe it was Simon (foreshadowing?)
@@deg1studios The first time it was Maurice. The second time was Robert
@@mufffin4582 gotcha! both were minor characters if I'm not mistaken
@@deg1studios herd mentality plus we are all savages given the right circumstances
The part that impressed me most was the part where flies swarmed around Simons head that basically foresaw his death, as the 'lord of the flies' was also covered with flies after it died. It made me understand the whole meaning of the book suddenly.
That's smart I'm bookmarking this
I always wondered what happened to the boys after they got off the island and how and if they we're able to reajust to life in civilization
They all probably had PTSD
Therapy, lots and lots of therapy and in a worst case scenario, some people never really come back.
They became CEO’s.
Actually they dont need to readjust, its just another island, a much bigger island. Atleast thats the point.
They would just go back to being the boys they were before..the point being that a civilised law abiding society is only skin deep and that given the right circumstances humans can quickly turn to savagery.
im honestly obsessed with lord of the flies now. all the interesting twist that you only realize after youve read the book twice. im totally gonna get an A on my essay
did you get an A on your essay?
Did you get an A
what twist do you mean
Same. I read it twice and I realized more symbolism
try watching the wilds on amazon prime its the female version of this and you get a whole new perspective to it
When Roger killed Piggy, I wanted to go in to the book and beat the crap out of Jack and Roger, I mean fucking really, this is why you should never have a favorite character in a book.
i cant decide whether to like the comment because i feel the same way, or to dislike because of the cursing because i dont curse... help me please......
As my religion taught me, cursing isn't a sin, as long as it's not direct. If you're upset or stub your toe, screaming profanity as being human, but if you swear at someone, that's a bad act.
am I the only one who actually read the novel and am here for a content review before a comprehension quiz?
I have an exam in 2 days on this book and I forgot everything so I'm watching this video to refresh my mind. This video really helped
@@SamWood64 omg its 2 days l8r, hope you did well on ur examm :))
I'm here bc I didn't read a the book and have an essay tomorrow 💀💀😂
ChinesMan saul yoooo sameee hahahaga
I read 3/4 :/
These images form a better movie than both the 1963 and 1990 ones
the commenter says still looking for the gallery for a source I need- and I can't source the vid RIP me
Deberian sacar una version en estos tiempos 2019 o mas adelante en hd o algo a si seria algo mejor remasterisar la pelicula
Simon's the one who says "maybe it's just us" not piggy...
More than 1800 students in Jazan University in Saudi Arabia benefit from your website and videoes and they are greatful to your great explanation. Thank you.
youtube is haram, fck off achmed
I think we can all agree that Simon and piggy were the most likable characters in the whole book 😔✋
Take book with grain of salt, since it is a work of fiction with an author who pushed his biased anti- capitalism views. In actually an incident did really happen close to the premise of the book but in real life none of the violence took place. Once again a book pushing a biased view.
@@kerryhannah1320 wheter its biased or not its still a great book
@@amonguscurrent320 rubbish for the mind
@@kerryhannah1320 Thats your opinion but ok
@@kerryhannah1320 well all biased narratives aside I still think it’s an entertaining and well-written book
I love the drawings in this video. I wish there was an entire Lord of the Flies graphic novel in this style.
Yeah! That would be really cool because the story line of the book is actually really good, including all the symbolism, but a lot of people don't like how he somewhat over explains details and the story could drag on at certain points... So yeah, a graphic novel would be amazing!
Whoops, didn't hit that 10 minute mark
He still had ads
In 2010 it wasn't necessary.
I love your summarization I just wish you talked more on Jack in the beginning. He respected Ralph and his ideas but at the same time he wanted to hunt and do what he thought was right. He even regretted and was apologetic over the fire going out
Exactly. Insanity eventually overtook his rationality, and insanity will ALWAYS defeat rationality.
@@chocolatebubbles6426 well said
I literally had no idea the story was so deep psychologically. I read it as a young teen, and only got a small level of the deepness of this literature. Thank you for sharing this
When I read this book I never knew that there was a war going on. Just makes the book that more interesting!
yeah, it was written during the cold war paranoia( after Hiroshima) , so Golding set it a few years into the future when he thought it would already break out, at least that's my understanding.
It represents no escape from the horrors of man
You must not have been reading properly, then. The guy in the video mentions a bomb being dropped on England at the beginning of the book.
You left out the ending. The officer expresses his disappointment at seeing British boys exhibiting such feral, warlike behaviour before turning to stare awkwardly at his own warship.
We are all lords of the flies.
What the fuck did i do, kill some guy in cod?
My friends: Lord of the flies is a beautiful book!
Me: *Reads book*
Me: Jesus christ.
literally
It’s is beautiful, it’s a beautiful story with beautiful metaphors
It’s just very dark and gory
Some of the most beautiful stories are the tragic ones
I liked it !
Lord of the Flies is one of only two books I’ve read where I had the experience of losing my ego and felt as if I had been transported to the scene. This was the scene when Jack was hunting Ralph. This was 50 years ago.
What was the other book?
definetly, my heart was racing during that scene
8 PAGE ESSAY DUE TOMORROW AND ITS MY ENGLISH FINAL
Eddie Is Satan 8 page? Jesus
Derp Derpson ya boy got a B on it
+Eddie Is Satan damn 8 pages? i would pass tf out
+Eddie Is Satan same! :0
With just this video you will fail
All hail the magic conch!
JADEBLADE HAWKBOSS conk*
Loooooloooooloooooolooooolooooo
"Nothing"
*Lodlelodleodledoelodlelodlelodlelodlelodle*
Loolooloolooloolooloolooloolooloolooloo
Is it weird that when I first heard of "Lord of the Flies" my first thought was Lord of the Rings but the characters are actual flies
*bug!Gandalf:* (caught by the tongue of the Bal-Frog) "FLY YOU FOOLS!"
Piggy Oink Oink that’s not what he said in the book but okay
@@wtfyoutube4873 but it is what he said in the movie, which is more relevant in popular media nowadays. people are more likely to understand the reference from the movie then they are to understand a reference from the book. I can't believe I have to explain this to you
That is amazing
This is painfully unfunny
LOL nice one
nobody:
*conk*
Roger (to piggy) : *bonk*
the biguns, with their english accents and all, realizing the kid with the scar is dead: *fock*
We need conk
Every time my older son, when he was a kid, would go outside to play, it was like lord of the flies within 15 minutes. I’d have to bring him inside every time. He had to be supervised every minute until he was 14. I love him with all my heart; but he was exhausting. He’s doing great now. He’s got a good job, new car and nice apt. Got it all by himself. He’s saved a lot of money too. I wasn’t sure he’d be able to do all that when he was a kid.
I can relate to this
Thank you for not giving upon him. He could have turned out very differently if it wasn't for your patience, guidance, love, and discipline. I grew up next to a kid who was a terrible bully and all-around-jerk. By High School he had outgrown most of that. 40 years later he still feels terrible about it LOL. I've realized some kids are just maniacs and require tons of support and supervision. Without that they probably become criminals.
Forget the nice cars and apartments; is he a good person now that he's grown up?
@@Books-and-coffee0 Yes. He is a good person. I'm very proud of the man he has become.
This is one of the greatest books I've read. I wish it was 200 pages longer though. RIP Piggy and Simon.
About Simon's Death:
I believe the ritualistic dance combined with their newfound power over life and death induced a hysteric bloodthirsty in the boys, in the end, all was unleashed into poor Simon who just arrived bringing unwelcome reason. The contrast was so much at that moment his life meant little more than being fuel for their rising Psychosis.
Most people don't know just how brilliant this book is.... it has a complex metaphorical story inside a child-like simple story
Well that's fucking depressing
When I first read the book, I was like, okay, but then I read the notes, watched this, and watched a bit of the summary and then I was like, "HOLY FUCK MAN."
the best books often are depressing as hell...Frankenstein, Animal Farm, and Brave New World are other great examples
'They all pick Ralph, he's beautiful and seems like a natural leader' hahahahahhahahaha
Ellie Hilton reminds me of griffith
Saucy_Bones NO
@@SACKINATOR19 holy shit it happened again. Not the rape, a refrence I get
This book is very fascinating and deeply moving. It is very symbolic, and it made me ponder things very thoroughly. Things like: "Why do people like being rebellious?" and "How can rebellion cause that much of a trouble". And in pondering those thoughts, I have found my answer.
The flesh loves to be rebellious. It's very easily tempted toward the things that are evil in this world. We love to sin....
As long as we live, there will be sin or evil in this world. And as long as there is sin and evil in this world, also will there be fear. As long as we keep our hearts at least somewhat pure, we will be able to stay sane. But if we let evil corrupt us, change us, then we will be defenseless against fear, and in that, we take very drastic measures to try to prove to ourselves that we're not afraid.
If you've read this and you choose to listen to me, all I have to say is this. Don't let fear corrupt you, ladies and gentlemen. Hope for the best. In the end, it could be the determining factor of whether or not you make it.
4:41 breaks the glass
4:44 it gets fixed
God I hate Jack sooo much
I kinda had to like him. I did a project on this book and Jack was my character. He's kinda me in a way so I've kinda had Jack been forced onto me.
Gabriel Edwards Roger is way worse than Jack he is way more savage and uncaring because he just ducking used the lever to push the rock off the mountain to kill piggy
davian lopez yeah Roger really is a "terror"
Ogere Sherk he killed piggy and broke the conch
Roger is actually the main antagonist
The only CONK in the story was when the rock fell on Piggys head. :P
Thor Gram lol
Lmao
😂
LOL
Lol
Conch not konk
Both are correct. Probably just regional dialect /vernacular
Hetzer The book is british and in the UK it is pronounced Conch
+SamBaker BF4 I live in England, and I am well aware. I am simply pointing out that it is clearly this guys accent.
+Alisdair Reid I used to call it konk a lot
+SamBaker BF4 If that already bothers you I highly recommend you don't turn on subtitles lol
Love these comments but I’m not seeing enough Roger hate. I literally had to play Roger in a mock trial and it was impossible- there’s no way to defend him, a literal sociopath who killed for the fun of it
I loved Roger, he was great in a love to hate way, he was even more vile than Jack
8:45 this is why one does not use TH-cam auto-generated captions (for those who didn't have it on, be thankful)
+xwasp aha just enabled it lol
"holding the cock"
So obviously I watched it with captions...if I was a cat I'd be dead I'm so curious...and lol TH-cam captions are the WORST.
lol
i get it
im watching this now and the caption changed to "Conch"
;~;
All throughout the book when ever they bring up the conch I would always think about spongebob and the magic conch shell, than I put the 2 together. By following the conch spongebob and Patrick got the things that they needed. Squidward refused to listen to the conch and goes crazy oof
kinda feel bad for piggy
and Simon
I don't
Simon : Mystic
Piggy : Intellectual
Ralph : Political hope for the boys
Jack : Wielder of phsical power
Mountain : Dignity of the man
Counch shell : Authority
Rock : Brute force
2021/6/30
18:35 Pm
Roger: Needs a psych evaluation
Hello
Lord of the flies is one of the only books that terrified me and I don’t normally get scared of books.
i feel sorry for piggy
Rahman koff I feel sorry for Simon he literally got clawed and stabbed to death
davian lopez i read the book and didn't they kill him by ripping his flesh (by bitting)
Yea and they used spears too
I don't
same man😔
You'all liked Piggy the most? I kinda liked Simon better.
Same!!!!
Cheesy Chelsea PIggy kinda made me cringe a little, with his un timly remarks
Simon is literally the best person in the novel. He was the like guardian angel of everyone.
Devoe Pack true that! Piggy just sucked up to ralph for protection
DR. PalSon P.H.D I couldn't stand Piggy.
Instead of watching the movie because of an assessment I decided to watch this and its kinda interesting and deep, I think its more detailed in the book
lol, everyone here in the comments is posting about how much they hated it. It's a gritty, well written story. If you don't have the patience to read this book, you are seriously missing out
O yea you were right i dod have paitence to read it after piggy passed away jack the bitch got shot.
I saw the movie and im thinking to never go near the book
Movies are usually worse than books ( if you do read that is )
Happytea The book is brilliant. I was assigned this for school and immediately thought I would hate it. I hate reading but I became invested in this book and I cried at the end. The original movie was pretty good, the remake was okay, but the actual book is truly great. You should read it or listen to the audio read aloud by William Golding himself, it really helps you to understand it
Okay I will look into it thanks
MY MOM CAME IN MY ROOM BECAUSE I WHEEZED OF HOW HE SAID "CONCH" ON ACCOUNT OF MY ASS-MAR LMFAO KONK IM GONE
I love this but it just gets horrifying to me everytime i remember that the boys were only around 6-12
Yeah it sad that some of them were just little kids who were scared because they were on island and that jack took there fear to gain control over them so that they would take his side
I miss these videos from Sparknotes. I basically grew up with them and it was how I "read" books.
This book had me tripping the fuck out
I'm pretty sure it's pronounced 'conch' not 'conk'.
omg yes,that really bothered me.
Ace Trainer Cat haha, I know. My teacher pronounced it as conch so i was really confused when he said 'conck'
haha, I'm just glad someone else noticed I thought it was just me and i was freaking out XP
Ace Trainer Cat haha, no you're not alone
***** What?
I loved reading this in highschool. Allegories are awesome. It was a part of an English class unit called The Dark Side of Humanity. Macbeth was included in the reading too.
Simon came at the worst time, when the Lord of the Flies had its grip on the boys...
Lord of the Flies is one of my favorite books. It was just such a creative, and interesting story.
@Will Harison UC Irvine don't make it a race thing
@kih racist
Same
When you lose the book and forced to read/watch summaries.
And this is how you study for an english exam lol
Edit: omg I was not expecting to get 2.1 k likes from this comment 😆
Alyssa Alcantara Amen
Yes it is 😂
+Robby Uriarte
Me too, I got a test on it tomorrow
+Alyssa Alcantara An essay and exam for me;)
+Alyssa Alcantara i have a literature exam on it in a few days haha
Only watching this because I haven’t paid attention in class for the past few months. Actually an interesting book!
900,000 of these views are mine with the way I have been preparing for an English exam..
Howd you do lol
Wait, Ralph took part in Simon's death?!!!
***** good god, now I see those characters in a whole new light!
Black Skull They thought Simon was the beast. They thought they were killing the beast, but Roger took interest in killing 'the beast'
+Ronan Fox After Roger killed Piggy, all the boys, including Jack, became wary of him as they know he is capable of murdering anybody. Do you think that Roger became more powerful than Jack towards the end of the book?
Kind of. He was on the outside of the circle.
I was surprise to in 1990 movie Piggy and Ralph didn't join in the killing but Ralph felt guilty he should stop it.
Here I was thinking it was gonna be a fun story about boys being boys
Me 2
And you got one, though not fun but a story of boys being boys.
These SparkNotes videos are great. They give us some very helpful recaps of classic literature. I found SparkNotes and their videos to be useful when doing book reports or assignments for English class.