I've got video nobody has ever seen of RC at Washougal 2004 going through the rhythm section after Horsepower Hill. They ran it this way one year and it was before they put in Crandall's Cliff. The section had 5 jumps and everyone else was going double, double and then rolling the single out of it because of the sharp right hand corner afterwards but RC was tripling into it then doubling it and completely casing the fifth jump which caused the bike to completely rebound and he'd land in the outside of the berm with the throttle pinned. The ground was shaking every time and you could hear the suspension completely bottom out like a whip cracking.
Pretty simple actually....Chase complained about the bike and blamed the bike every weekend for how many seasons straight when he was on Honda? Then moves to KTM and does literally the exact same thing complaining about the bike. Jett does not do that- this is only the 2nd time he's mentioned the bike not being great. This year after 1 race (which I'm sure he'll be better this weekend) and last year which he quickly figured out and almost won the outdoor title. Remember, after his Hangtown crash he was 20 points down and clawed his way back into the points lead by Southwick before pulling out of the series. That might be one reason Chase doesn't get the credit, just look at how he slipped and fell into his titles...
The Lawrence brothers have been raving about how awesome the new 2025 Honda's were during the latter half of LAST YEARS season , they both were dominating on that exact model last year .They both have had way way more time on those bikes than any other rider . Those two were the ONLY riders who rode the new 2025 last year everybody else was on their 2024 models. There is nothing wrong with those bikes the difference is the competition upped their games.
..........and now you are saying that OUTDOOR NATIONAL MOTOCROSS is the exact same thing as INDOOR SUPERCROSS??? Shiver my timber, matey, the world is spinning backwards!
The reason for the 11th and 12th results is NOT the bike it's the brothers riding them. They were busy in the off-season getting tattoo's, playing golf, chasing hussies, buying supercars, getting highlights and perms in hairdos instead of testing and training.
@@djjazzyjeff1232absolutely not the kid just thinks he's that great and he's not nothing better than watching them Lawrence sisters get smoked Saturday 😂😂
Didn’t the Lawrence’s have a hand in developing this 2025 bike? HRC was adding material to the previous generation frame in 2024 which I thought was what prompted the redesign to the OEM IN 2025. You would think they would be more prepared when they helped develop the bike they knew they would be racing this year.
So many excuses for the brothers. Didnt they ride this bike last year cuz it was SO much better than the perfect season 24? No talk about bike issues until they loose!!!
all riders seem to do this lol but they’re also the ones riding it. I think poor starts was the main anomaly, for Jett to get 2 bad starts seems very odd.
@ Guess again pal, see below for the reason: In vehicles with a full cradle frame running under the engine, the engine typically does not act as a stressed member of the chassis. A full cradle frame is designed to enclose and support the engine, rather than the engine supporting the frame.
"too much power" Name something Tomac has never said :) Also, Tomac said he likes it more stinkbug, which would potentially mean that adding mm to shock and subframe would help his bike setup
If Jett didn’t get hung up on the start he’s on the podium. Him and Eli will come out swinging next week. Chase is on his game and then some. I can not wait for the next race!!
What Ricky and Ryan are missing, is that when you experience a perfect season championship bike set up - you will always be chasing that level of performance - that perfect feeling - even if the current platform just won’t ever get there. The rider has to forget about the past. It will never have just the right amount of pop or hold up that it had that one year again. You just have to move on. But how can you possibly move on as a rider when you’ve had perfection - some won’t be able to - and they will twist the current platform backwards on itself to try to feel like the old bike.
RC and villo aren't missing anything. They have an understanding on bike design and ergonomic that the general population can't even comprehend. Both multi time champions. You have not even the slightest idea of what your talking about
@DamienCrim100 they don't because they said last year Chase needs to stop making excuses, but now they are making excuses for jett 😂😂😂😂 the reality is jetts having a hard time when the good riders are not injured and arnt sitting out 😂😂😂😂
@@jammer212 bite your tongue when talking about Jett. Love or hate the boys the real deal and will most likely blow all your fav riders out by the end of the series
Donut boy is way to uptight. Needs to not gaf like MC did and just have fun. Hes the fastest guy out there. But like chase he’s getting into is own head!
Hypothetically speaking here, is there the possibility that we're asking too much of what a motorcycle can do on a supercross track? Is a 450 just too powerful to set up for a supercross track? Rickie's 250 2 strok had way less power than the 450's of today and was likely a bit more forgiving when it got out of shape.
I love the breakdowns by the pros. Especially stewwy and his podcast. Keep up the great content. Mann i miss the RC vs Stewart days, what a time to be alive.
Poor start didn’t help jett track was dreadful, narrow ,tight weight of expectations,having to force passes let’s be honest first meeting aways goes against a favourite,thought Kenny was fantastic
Here is the problem boys… if he is not comfy on the bike, he won’t be able to push. And even if he can push.. it’ll take a couple weeks to dial it in and feel good to REALLY push it
I've got video nobody has ever seen of RC at Washougal 2004 going through the rhythm section after Horsepower Hill. They ran it this way one year and it was before they put in Crandall's Cliff. The section had 5 jumps and everyone else was going double, double and then rolling the single out of it because of the sharp right hand corner afterwards but RC was tripling into it then doubling it and completely casing the fifth jump which caused the bike to completely rebound and he'd land in the outside of the berm with the throttle pinned. The ground was shaking every time and you could hear the suspension completely bottom out like a whip cracking.
Why is it when it’s chase and the bike is bad it’s Chase’s fault but when the bike is bad for jet, it’s the bikes fault
Yes Chase never gets the credit he deserves even when he won Outdoors
Pretty simple actually....Chase complained about the bike and blamed the bike every weekend for how many seasons straight when he was on Honda? Then moves to KTM and does literally the exact same thing complaining about the bike. Jett does not do that- this is only the 2nd time he's mentioned the bike not being great. This year after 1 race (which I'm sure he'll be better this weekend) and last year which he quickly figured out and almost won the outdoor title. Remember, after his Hangtown crash he was 20 points down and clawed his way back into the points lead by Southwick before pulling out of the series. That might be one reason Chase doesn't get the credit, just look at how he slipped and fell into his titles...
Chase blamed the bike every race last season
@@thebordenasylum7726 jets not gonna suck you bro
Simple, chase has complained about his bike for years with bad results, where jett has won plenty of races with a bad setup.
Go ask jeremy McGrath why they changed his honda in 96-97 that he just won 4 championships with
The Lawrence brothers have been raving about how awesome the new 2025 Honda's were during the latter half of LAST YEARS season , they both were dominating on that exact model last year .They both have had way way more time on those bikes than any other rider . Those two were the ONLY riders who rode the new 2025 last year everybody else was on their 2024 models. There is nothing wrong with those bikes the difference is the competition upped their games.
😂
@@herbcanter2114 you are 100% correct
..........and now you are saying that OUTDOOR NATIONAL MOTOCROSS is the exact same thing as INDOOR SUPERCROSS??? Shiver my timber, matey, the world is spinning backwards!
@@vmcmark7578 outdoor conditions are way more tuf than indoor so what you on about did you see how Eli reeled those guys in 😉
I believe the two commenters know way more about dirt bikes than everyone commenting combined. No offense.
The reason for the 11th and 12th results is NOT the bike it's the brothers riding them. They were busy in the off-season getting tattoo's, playing golf, chasing hussies, buying supercars, getting highlights and perms in hairdos instead of testing and training.
Nah it’s cuz he didn’t get the start. Simple as that. He got Anderson’d
@@djjazzyjeff1232that's why he crashed out in the whoops???😂😂😂😂
100% correct!
100% right
@@djjazzyjeff1232absolutely not the kid just thinks he's that great and he's not nothing better than watching them Lawrence sisters get smoked Saturday 😂😂
If the Honda is that bad how was Jett the 2nd fastest qualifier ,
Because he’s arguably the fastest rider right now and qualifying is way different then a race
He also could have made a change or 2 between the qualifying and the race
Why do factories insist on ‘fixing’ things that weren’t broken.
Aint that somethin'?
If you don’t try to be proactive your product will be stagnant and then all then sudden it’s been 8 years and you’re the only one with a kickstart
@@SoloAscent Yet Kenny still beat these brand new Hondas..
@@djjazzyjeff1232 and how many Suzukis do you see at your local races?
@@djjazzyjeff1232 Didn't win though.
Qualifying looked great for the Honda boys.
didn’t the lawrence’s have a heavy input on this new frame?
Didn’t the Lawrence’s have a hand in developing this 2025 bike? HRC was adding material to the previous generation frame in 2024 which I thought was what prompted the redesign to the OEM IN 2025. You would think they would be more prepared when they helped develop the bike they knew they would be racing this year.
Honda chased MC Away when they switched in 97' to the twin spar aluminum... this is what factories do.
Why don't they have the bugs worked out by the time they get to Anaheim?? Are you saying this was the very first time jett rode the bike?BS
They had the most time by far to do so .
So many excuses for the brothers. Didnt they ride this bike last year cuz it was SO much better than the perfect season 24? No talk about bike issues until they loose!!!
Exactly I remember the same conversations
all riders seem to do this lol but they’re also the ones riding it. I think poor starts was the main anomaly, for Jett to get 2 bad starts seems very odd.
Hunter rode it near the end of the outdoor season.
Joe is on a 2025 yes, it’s a 250 but it’s still the 2025 Honda. He looked spectacular on it huh? Wonder why
REALLY??? We all know that 450's & 250's place the same load into the chassis right, DUH!
Engines are a stressed member of the chassis way more metal in the 450 power unit
@ Guess again pal, see below for the reason:
In vehicles with a full cradle frame running under the engine, the engine typically does not act as a stressed member of the chassis. A full cradle frame is designed to enclose and support the engine, rather than the engine supporting the frame.
He can be looking for an out! He could be thinking Ducati like everyone else is.
Roczen got second on a suzuki based on a 2016 design bike? So there's that.
Jett will be on the podium. Hunter will be on the podium. Pay attention all you Lawrence haters.
Mabye wait for the 27 nismo model with the 6spd trans and paddle shifters and no spode mode setting on that 25 chassis. As a consumer.
"too much power" Name something Tomac has never said :) Also, Tomac said he likes it more stinkbug, which would potentially mean that adding mm to shock and subframe would help his bike setup
If Jett didn’t get hung up on the start he’s on the podium. Him and Eli will come out swinging next week. Chase is on his game and then some. I can not wait for the next race!!
What Ricky and Ryan are missing, is that when you experience a perfect season championship bike set up - you will always be chasing that level of performance - that perfect feeling - even if the current platform just won’t ever get there. The rider has to forget about the past. It will never have just the right amount of pop or hold up that it had that one year again. You just have to move on. But how can you possibly move on as a rider when you’ve had perfection - some won’t be able to - and they will twist the current platform backwards on itself to try to feel like the old bike.
also consider the factors of injured riders along with multiple other possible things that actually is the reason for winning😂😂😂😂
RC and villo aren't missing anything. They have an understanding on bike design and ergonomic that the general population can't even comprehend. Both multi time champions. You have not even the slightest idea of what your talking about
@DamienCrim100 they don't because they said last year Chase needs to stop making excuses, but now they are making excuses for jett 😂😂😂😂 the reality is jetts having a hard time when the good riders are not injured and arnt sitting out 😂😂😂😂
I agree, RC and RV have the experience and inside knowledge to make these statements and its awsome that they're sharing their insights with us 👏 👏
@@jammer212 bite your tongue when talking about Jett. Love or hate the boys the real deal and will most likely blow all your fav riders out by the end of the series
Donut boy is way to uptight. Needs to not gaf like MC did and just have fun. Hes the fastest guy out there. But like chase he’s getting into is own head!
he was happy go lucky and it made him loose in his riding idk what changed recently
Honda is shopping for KTM frames while KTM is rummaging through the Honda Garbage looking for used Chains and Tires.
Hypothetically speaking here, is there the possibility that we're asking too much of what a motorcycle can do on a supercross track? Is a 450 just too powerful to set up for a supercross track? Rickie's 250 2 strok had way less power than the 450's of today and was likely a bit more forgiving when it got out of shape.
No winning the bike win and it's the rider. I remember good riders winning on anything
The Aussie boys be on that white powder during the off season and not on them bikes.
The track was just how Brian wanted it to be fast narrow big jumps as young deegs is the saviour of USA 🇺🇸! 😂
My boyfriend said that Anderson purposely took him out bc he hates Jett
When Jett crashes out next weekend I wounder how they will spin that ......
Love these two. Wisdom.
Looked like bad starts can’t get buried in supercross it doesn’t matter who you are ! Plus talk about overreaction it’s round one lol
I love the breakdowns by the pros. Especially stewwy and his podcast. Keep up the great content. Mann i miss the RC vs Stewart days, what a time to be alive.
Poor start didn’t help jett track was dreadful, narrow ,tight weight of expectations,having to force passes let’s be honest first meeting aways goes against a favourite,thought Kenny was fantastic
These two are so good at breaking things down and explaining things they see that most of us can’t see.
Who cares every bran has problems why you why you think that because it's jet that he's special screw him can't ride
Well I just bought a 450rw and I can confirm, is worse.. The 2022 was much better…
You bought a consumer model, you aint even on the same planet. lol
@@buckydoedowner9040and it’s still worse.
@@buckydoedowner9040 I think they have to use the same base geometry though, and then spend an unlimited budget to try and fix what was never broken.
Suzuki…..
Here is the problem boys… if he is not comfy on the bike, he won’t be able to push. And even if he can push.. it’ll take a couple weeks to dial it in and feel good to REALLY push it
Firstt!!!