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2015 Subaru Forester 2.5i Limited
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ADF 1.75" / 1 6/8" lift spacers in front
ADF 1.875" / 1 7/8" lift spacers in rear
ADF 2" Rear Multi-link spacers
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Subaru with X-Mode in deep powder snow!
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use WINTER tires, not 'All-Terrain' tires.
Winter tires use a softer rubber that grabs the snow 50% more.
Ko2's arent bad in the snow though. They are snow rated.
U think he don't already know?
I run 100 percent studdless in the winter . 100 times better than my all terrain summer tires
During a snow camping trip in January, I got stuck in deep snow and damaged something in the transmission assembly. It was either the CVT or the center differential. The symptoms were a loss of traction during WOT (wide open throttle). After trying to fix the problem, thinking it was probably a dirty wheel sensor, I finally took it into a Subaru dealership. I was really shocked when they told me my CVT was only putting down 80% power and needed to be replaced.
I won’t know the exact reason, but I figured I melted the center diff leading to it binding up, thus letting me lose traction left to right upon heavy acceleration. Laying into the gas while trying to escape snow was probably the cause of that. I was doing similar things as in the later half of your video.
I urge anyone to avoid laying into their gas pedal. Even older subaru’s are vulnerable. Take powerofyourbrains for example. He also melted a center diff in an older Subaru.
I’m over 70 years old and I don’t have any reason to be concerned about snow, however thanks for the entertainment, 😊
That's what I'm talking about,some real snow. Your best video yet! Any vechicle that bottoms out on the undercarriage will get stuck,no fault of your Subaru.
Thanks! Yep, you nailed it. Thanks for watching!
@@HighjakSecondary yes and you're absolutely right to point out that not all snow is the same. It's one thing to drive through 15 inches of powder on a flat road but driving through multiple layers of snow, some of which has frozen and thawed, is a completely different story; the weight of the lower layers here makes it much more difficult.
Took my 100% stock Forester Sport out in 6 inches of snow a few weeks ago. It didn’t bat an in the slightest🔥🤙🏻👊🏻😎
Man, I wish we got that much snow here in Kentucky. Good video man, good music to.
That's exactly how i got my goofy behind stuck in the mountain snow for two freaking nights.....So stupid i was....That was a hard lesson that was learned extremely hard Man..
This kind of car just save my family life in Texas! Thank you ...Thank you.. Thank you...!! SUBARU...a 2003 MODEL
Like I have said we have ICE/SLEET/Frozen Rain here, not much snow. When I had my Dodge PU 2wd, I kept mud grips on it because we had horses and it was my daily driver and chore vehicle.
In the winter I kept 2 used tired mounted on wheels with HD cross bar chains mounted on them. I could use my small floor jack, speed wrench/ratchet and change out the back tires under 30 minutes start to finish. I made some pocket money pulling people out of ditches, up driveways/hills on the roads, flat ground. With the HD rear bumper and Class IV receiver hitch, any scratches I got, I just used spray paint to repair. I had waivers for the people to sign. They hooked up to their vehicle, unless it was a lady in distress. I guess the arthritis now is from slipping, busting my butt when I was younger. I busted it a bunch of times.
Subarus are beasts with the right tires! Awesome ride!
I had a 1984 VW turbo diesel Quantum with 5 speed and 4 wheel studded snow tires, had not problem with anything. Never got stuck.
Iowa! Nice...moved to Iowa City over a year ago from Texas and tomorrow I get my tires and ADF lift all done.
Airing down will help immensely and deeper snow for the maybe half inch of ground clearance you lose you will gain a ton of flotation and traction
I'll give this a shot next time.
@@HighjakSecondary on my forester I will drop down to as low as 12 psi in very deep snow, it may scare some to go that low and I wouldn't suggest going that low but even dropping down to 20 will help out amazingly
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Subaru, forever!!!
Keep these videos coming. I live in Jamaica and we definitely don't get snow lol ....but what we do get is flooded roads. Love Subaru going to get the newer one with X mode ( already owned 3 already one wrx and 2 Forestors). Love the mods on yours you don't see any of them nodded like this out here.
Thanks for watching!
HENRY ought to be 4 wheelin with DAD. Playing in the SNOW.
FINALLY- someone on here that knows the difference between WET and POWDERED snow... I've had so many on here-- IT"S SNOW either way- yes- true- but WET SNOW IS NOT "just" snow-- it's a PAIN IN THE ASS waiting to happen.. Powder is almost NOT like snow- as it doesn't STICK and cause the issues wet snow (and ice- which it quickly becomes)..will do.
The final countdown
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Airing down helps my sti alot in deep snow..the lsd diffs dont hurt either. Very cool fozzy man!
how deep are we talking about? I've plowed through wet snowbanks up to the top grill and still didn't struggle.
Well......my car can DEFINITELY do that😅😅😅 (22 Forester Wilderness). I love your build man!
Thats awesome! Cant wait to get skid plates on my RAV4 to try the same thing.
U need a tank to cross this kind of snow, good performance from a AWD crossover
Looked to me like it did real well! I’m planning on getting one of these this year, so nice to see how it does in some deep snow.
Nice job dude. Never get tired of seeing one the finest all wheel dive cars in the world do it's thing. Long lve the mighty Subaru
love these Subaru Forester videos, thanks for bringing us these videos
Holy cow man, you are making awesome videos! I cant believe you live in my state, we are getting tons of snow here. I would love to come see you in action sometime or go out get stuck.
At least u got the flexibility of the rubber as the KO2 are winter/cold weather rated all weathers vs standard all seasons truck tires. :) that stuff, u need studded winters tho.
I need this car in N wisconsin. We got 58-60" last month ALONE! I have a 2wd 5 speed ranger. It sits 5-6 months of the year & i walk
Joey put a set of chains on the Ranger and you would drive circles around that Subie. I'm a Northern Minnesota logger and this is what we do, play in the snow.
@@ticker511 I think studs & chains are illegal here...
Ranger lol. No thanks
The only snow I saw in the last two winters was half of that you got on your rear window...
So my outback is still waiting for such fun...
Greetz from Germany! ✌️
Love snow, one reason why I moved to the mountains of Idaho. The new Subaru Forester really impresses me. But I'll keep my big GMC for those super nasty drives.
That looks like a regular January Tuesday in Québec: can't wait to try that in my new 2020 Outback XT. X-Mode wasn't available on the 2011 Impreza 2.5 I traded in, but I have a feeling I'm gonna enjoy it A LOT!!! (if the COVID let me outta the house ;-)
Any car that can go in over a foot of snow is great in my book.
Great video! I live for days like this with my forester. Got 4 Nokian snow tires and I thinking about nokian studded snows when my current set wear through. Maybe not enough snow to justify those here in westchester ny. Keep up the fun times
Wow, y'all average 22" a year? That's crazy. I'm in the Appalachian mountains around WV/VA and right where I'm at we average 56" overall. Ohio River Valley...I guess some people just hear the word north and automatically assume more snow 💁
Guys, I live in Scandinavia so Nokian winter tyres rule out here - they are beyond awesome. Just remember, non studded winter tyres are designed more for snow than ice. They are designed to ’clog up’ with snow inbetween the treads - nothing sticks to snow better than snow itself. Whereas the studded winter tyres, are designed to cut through the snow and grip on ice with the stud tips. They of course work on snow, but non studded Nokian snow tyres will out perform studded, when head to head in snow only. You just need to choose the right tyre for your conditions. Hope this helps.
@@tornado34 it absolutely does. At the end of the day I wound up getting the non studded for all of my cars. Just getting ready to make the swap.
Thumbs for the donuts and shovel pick up. Noice
One can find the limit of any vehicle if given the opportunity. It's up to the driver to have some smarts. Even when using my jeep cherokee in the snow on fire roads in the sierras, it had its limits. I knew its limits and my limits. My subarus toughest test was during a storm traveling the road along the Russian river. Couldn't see the road from all the rain and mud. The subi never seemed to loose traction or skip a beat. That's all I ever want out of it. 2001 outback and still going strong.
Still going strong?
@@simd510 absolutely !
@@georgecurtis6463 nice! I'm thinking about getting the 2024 outback as a long term car. I hope it lasts
Now THAT depth of snow makes me paranoid because I just have a stock 2022 Forester Premium with no spacers, no skid plates, and no snow tires and I was just reading that Subaru discourages Forester owners from using snow chains UNLESS they are a specific "S" type or something? And, I've been in some cars when we're sliding on ice on a road in the mountains at high elevation, moving toward the edge of that road -- it's got to be the scariest place in the world you'd ever want to be.
get winter tires, not all terrain or mud tires, they suck in the snow. I live in the Canadian Rockies and use nokian hakkapeliitta 8 studded tires on my gen5 4Runner and 3rd gen Forester. like night and day
I don't think my Cooper All Season could cut the mustard/snow.
Make a video how you hooked up the spare to the back of your car....looks kool
There is a video on the Wilco Hitchgate Solo already on the channel page. :)
MT tires work amazing in snow.
Michelin Cross Climate work great in snow also.
I was hoping for some snow here in the U.K to test out our recently purchased Forester 2.0 diesel manual model but it’s been 20 degrees Celsius plus, crazy weather for February! Oh well there’s always next year. Love the videos.
Thanks for watching! A diesel manual sounds awesome!
Nice video! So maybe I missed it but when were you using X-mode? When you were semi stuck in deepest part did you try X-mode with low gear? Thanks.
Fresh powder is one thing.....wait till it turns to slush!!
Get a takeda air intake and a nameless exhaust. Better fuel economy and power if you don’t mind the extra sound drone
Your problem is you make the same mistake all rookies do.... You're trying to advance while your wheels are turned. What you have to do is advance and reverse in short STRAIGHT cycles until you create a straight runway. THEN and only then once you have good speed and momentum can you concider turning your wheels. I wouldn't have needed a shovel. ;)
yeah backing up in that depth of snow you definitely want the wheels straight or expect to go nowhere fast
snowing like hell outside. testing my 2020 forester sport blew through snow banks taller then my license plate. last winter had a 2013 4 door Camry Le very bad in snow
Haha same here. Finally snowed in NYC and tested x mode on my 18’ black edition forester
How much snow has to be on the ground before the plows come through.? I drove my forester in the snow last year ..only in a few inches and it drove like there was nothing on the pavement ..it was amazing. Such a difference from my Scion tC. I was afraid of the snow for the last 13 years. Now I’m not
That snow's deeper than it looks, A fellas got to have a good set a meats.....looks like central Washington or The midwest.
Iowa
@@HighjakSecondary Thanks to you folks we eat good in this country !
Put tracks on the Subaru, problem solved LOL.
William Todd I’ve always wanted to do this.
Beautiful snow covered area. That looks like so much fun! I had always heard that Subaru's are good for snow, now I know. Have been looking at a 2009 Subaru Tribeca, super nice car!
Ok, so I am a little embarrassed to call what we had in Tucson the other day snow now. :) Fun stuff Brother! Glad to see you are gaining more and more subscribers.
Rick Hutton Haha! I love that vid of yours though! Still great fun.
Down here in Tucson as well. Was super excited to see snow, but so sad to see it melt before I even left work.
Awesome video
Crazy, crazy, crazy... 👍
Wow, that's such a great idea. PLOW SNOW WITH YOUR CAR!!! I'm gonna try that one of these years. XD
I love this video. Great job bro. If you want to have more fun, Traction Control OFF. 😜
VDC was off the entire time :D
I respectfully disagree. - My friend has all terrain's and I have snow, we both have pickup trucks. - I'm telling ya dude try them.
I've been through several sets of snow tires.
awesome video
Greetings! I recently moved to Anchorage, Alaska, and am in the early planning phase of getting my 05 Forester lifted with the ADF 2" lift kit. I will have dedicated snow tires I will be running in the winter, but I am noticing that for my summer outdoor outings, I am on quite a few service roads with little to no road maintenance. Wanted to get your input on all terrain tires that would get me a bit more off-road capability without making the vehicle too much louder or rougher riding. The forester is my daily driver so will be spending most of its time on-road with an outdoor/camping outing twice or so a month during the summers. I see that you have the BFG KO2s. I've heard mixed reviews on its ride and road noise, and wanted to get your honest take on it. I am also considering Firestone Destination A/T, Yokohama Geolander A/T G015, General Grabber ATII, as well as the Toyo Open Country ATII as potential alternatives if any of them give me better everyday road manners and quieter ride with a bit of sacrifice on sheer off-roading prowess. Thank you for your time in advance! Cheers
i have a 2003 tacoma with KO2’s, and a crosstrek with blizzaks. the blizzaks seem to do a little better in snow & ice, but the KO2’s are pretty damn good in the snow. the KO2’s are surprisingly smooth & quiet on paved roads, and are phenomenal tires. i highly recommend them overall. that being said, the blizzaks are better in pure ice & snow performance. good luck & happy driving!
Grabber at2s do much better that ko2s
If this normal or is this heavy snow? Living in the tropics, I cant imagine how challenging it is just to get around in snow. I drive an old Tribeca but it wont see action like this for sure.
8:01 Why would you turn off VDC? Isn't it designed to solve the issues of open differentials with wheels slipping in both front and rear axles?
No, it's not. What you're referring to is a separate electronic system ironically called "LSD". By pressing the VDC button you're disabling the portion of VDC that will limit the throttle applied by the driver. When in slippery conditions wheel spin is desired.
Maybe some traction mats could've gotten you out quicker with less shoveling?
It’s bad ass
Love the music- is that "The Vinyl Cow Town" by Evropa? 😁
This one is from Aries Beats. Link in the video description.
Why dont you test deep snow or other features to truly see if they help☺️ Just interested to see how helpful they are
Nice video !!! 😃👍
Thats like... snow chain snow. No AT's or dedicated snow tire is going to make it through that. Need to chain up and go slow.
Have you had any of the weird wobble/vibrations at a certain speed/RPM like some others have experienced after their lift? Or did you use the CVT spacer from the get-go?
cvt transmissions are terrible. i wish they would have kept a regular auto
I agree. The CVT robs the engine on hp torque and mpg.
We have an Outback, (my wife’s commuter car and our road car) and we Love it, except for the CVT.
My car is a 11 Rav 4WD Limited with a 269hp 3.5 V6 with a 5spd geared automatic transmission.
Our Outback has the 2.4 turbo , 260 hp with the CVT.
Our Rav gets better mpg, (26mpg at 75mph with the cruise set on 75mph on the freeway.
Our Outback gets only 23mpg with the cruise set at 75mph.
I’ve raced my wife in her XT and my Rav flat out blows her doors off.
My naturally aspirated V6 will outlast any turbo on the market.
Yes the Outback has more room and is more comfortable and I must admit that the Outback is far superior over my Rav in snowy driving conditions.
I’m ashamed that with all the technology going into automobiles, they’re still getting shitty gas mileage.
If Subaru Actually LOVED planet earth like they tout about then why can’t they make a car that actually gets better fuel economy?
Furthermore why in the hell does Subaru refuse to manufacture a non plug in hybrid in the Outback or the Forester?
Subaru LIES about the mpg and LIES about doing what’s best for earth.
Since Subaru and Toyota are in bed together, why does Subaru Refuse to be kind to the planet and manufacture a hybrid?
The 02 Forester gets the same mpg than it does in 22. Twenty years later and they still can’t seem to get it right.
@@sdud1801 a CVT robs the engine on hp torque and mpg
And when they fail, they can’t be rebuilt so there goes $8K for a new one and $1K to install it
😊😊
How do you like those tires. I’m looking to get some good tires for my RAV4. I drive 45 minutes away for work and when I come home there’s now plow truck. You are your own plow truck? Need an answer ASAP lol
I ended up getting the Falken Wildpeak A/T tires. They aren't quite as beefy as these, but still have amazing all year round performance.
What model rav 4 do you have and how does it do in the snow? I'm deciding between a subaru vs rav 4.
How do you know you dont have the best subaru, x mode lol. I think they only put it on the cvt models from about 15 plus, prob to make up for the crap tranny. I'd rather have an older solid 2010 like I do. Heated seats n power everythiing, (i personally love that subaru puts shocks on the hoods, its great to work on and they are good shocks, 12 years old technically 13 made in 9/09 and they still hold the hood up perfectly). My buddy had a chevy suv and the shocks for the rear hatch thing were always needing to be replaced.
Point is, I love subaru.
FYI find yourself an older one that needs a timing belt replaced grab yourself a water pump and a couple other cheap parts while ur in there and you will have another easy 100k miles left.
But how hard is that 4 cylinder working to ploughing through that snow,show rpms.6 bolts instead of eight on valve covers blown gaskets what’s all that about ? Am I misinformed?
Beeman Seawa Even floored we weren’t going much over 4K RPM.
Do you have a lift kit installed as well? If so, what did you go with? It looks great! I've read about some rub issues with those K02s.
Yeah, 2" roughly all around. I did a video specifically on the lift and it's on my TH-cam channel. Give that look.
Did Subaru ever fail at AWD test?
Any other car would need a pull.
Whatch my How to drive in the snow with a 2012 Subaru Outback 3.6r. when ever you are bogged you drive in low gear. You allowing wheel spin by putting it in drive.
Johnny Franco There is no low gear. It’s a CVT. X-Mode however, which is already on for all of this as mentioned in the video, is already adjusting the CVT to apply a lower ratio. Even so, I want wheelspin. This is deep snow that you’re not going to get through without it.
Hey HJS, are those Subaru's really as good as people say they are ??? Please let me know as I want a forester or crosstrek myself. UK fan
Yeah my car can definitely do that and its only two horsepower.
My own two legs
How does having tires like that effect your MPG?
I really wish Subaru would start making these with a locking differential option. It would take subies to another level
can you make a video of the spare tire? position the camera at the back then go for a drive... and see if the tire mount bounces?
I might be able to do this. It does bounce ever so slightly, more so now than it did when I first installed it though. I believe you can buy the rubber washer/bushing from Wilco to replace the existing one and that should snug things up again.
How did you get the 1 6/8 on the front from ADF? Did you have to get the 1" lift plus two sets of their 3/8" spacers for the front? And if so, how come you went with that over just doing their option of 1.5" in the front with the 1 7/8 in the rear?
8:13 was that a rock hitting your frame when d/s front wheel started to spin?
No, there are no rocks out there.
Everything has its limitation.
Awd vs 4x4,that pretty much sums it up,
Wrangler locked in 4hi wouldn't even sweat in that small amount of snow
I’m wanting to buy a new Forster and would like to know what lift and rim and tire setup you have because I’m going from an Srt8 Jeep to a more mpg friendly Forester and would like to mod it like this. I can’t go without modding anything lol.
Hey Chuck, You're STUCK!
HA!
What happened to the general artic tires you had on? Think it would worked in this stuff?
Paul E That was a different car. My old 2010. Definitely not. They were smaller and not 3PMSF rated.
real snow tires would make this so much easier
No they wouldn't. I've owned both. Yeah, dedicated snow/winter tires work better on the road, but in this deep stuff they aren't going to do any better compared to the 3PMSF rated BFG KO2s. The KO2s have bigger and deeper lugs which work great offroad and in the deep snow.
@@HighjakSecondary there's objective testing that would disagree with you but you do you.
@@nemo5335 Cool. Provide your source... I'll wait...
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My Subaru is a 2014 Subaru Forester, 2.5 I, premium, with no X mode.
Can X mode be installed even though my car did not come with it?
after the cvt failure, are you still considering getting rid of the forester?
did you mount a full size spare to your tailgate, or is that a kit you can buy aftermarket for the Subaru!
It's on a Hitchgate Solo - there's a video discussing this on my channel page.
CVT cripples it.
bt4b4 I don’t love the CVT, but the CVT is not the issue here.
You sure ? It cuts power, and not let the tires spin. Watch your front tire in this video.
@@bt4b4 it's not the CVT, even the manual subie will cut power in deep snow . honestly on the newer foresters the cVT in x mode will work better in deep snow
I have a very hard time getting my crosstrek stuck in snow the AWD and xmode works get
Are you related to the Donner party?
I hope not, but I will eat almost anything if I'm hungry enough.
X Mode is pretty much hype, But when you increase your tire diameter you are affecting the traction control as it is programmed around a 27.5 tire.
Spoken like someone who has never used it. You're out of your element, Donny.
The factory tire size is 27.6" of we're going to get this picky. The system operates more off of the difference in ratio from wheel to wheel per my understanding. Thus I submit that any change with larger tires is none at all or negligible at the very worst.
Why don't you close your door when you get out. Never been in snow is there a reason?
Personal preference/habit. I'm typically getting right back in anyway and I dislike closing the doors with all the windows up with the only set of keys still in the ignition. Wearing gloves and bulky warm clothes is clunky and I've accidentally hammered the lock button before and closed the door.