I went to the South Carolina Georgia game in 2012. (A lot of my family is from Carolina, so I've always liked them.) And it was unbelievable how energetic the stadium was.
@@glasswhisperer I know dude, Florida is a pillar in the SEC. I think I heard somewhere that Georgia caught wind of Kirby Smart taking the SC job and offered him an awesome deal. He's a UG grad so that helped.
"Enough to give you hope, but to let you down when it mattered the most." Accurate synopsis of Carolina football. - Dead on the money with this statement. Go Gamecocks.
South Carolina has one hell of a recruiting tool in Shane Beamer. As a Sooners fan I'm excited for them and him and hope to see them in a NY6 Bowl game someday.
@Phil Ill We'll see I personally think he'll do well but I also just want Shane Beamer to succeed because he's known as one of the genuine good guys in the sport.
@Phil Ill People said the same thing about Dabo. The thing is, I'd rather take a risk on a guy with actual potential compared to the other options there were.
I feel like you described it perfectly, this program can win it just needs the right coach. In my opinion Shane Beamer is the perfect guy for the job. He loves the program and the fans.
To be fair, Clemson has been unreal the last 5-6 years. Clemson has been a mediocre program for the vast majority of their history. But they’re unbelievable now. Dabo’s Tigers remind me of Bobby Bowden’s Seminole teams from the 1990’s.
@King David Smith III I even called the first missed field goal. I said "Don't worry, we can still miss this field goal" not ten seconds before we missed it. FML.
When Texas A&M blew you guys out at home in 2014, I knew something was seriously wrong with your team. At the time though, I thought you guys were merely having a single down reloading year. Then 2015 happened and everything started blowing apart.
Maybe, but the Mercedes was worn out and never felt the same about South Carolina. Meanwhile, the Clemson fans watched in horror as the Gamecocks were hiring big name coaches like Lou Holtz and Steve Spurrier. At the same time Clemson was hiring washed up coaches sons like Tommy Bowden, and finally some clown nobody ever heard of named Dabo Swinney. I and half the fans were nearly in revolt after they failed to fire him after going 6-7 in his 2nd full year. I wanted everybody at Clemson fired and thought Clemson might never again beat the Gamecocks. Little did I know, Dabo was to become our best coach ever. Clemson had showed me and other fans were idiots. The Gamecocks were hiring past legends that never brought their past glory with them. Clemson was hiring coaches we, nor anyone else ever heard of except Dabo. Eventually his belief, made us fans believe too.
@@sarge1231 Worn out? I don’t recall mentioning Lou Houltz lol... But you see thats the problem with Clemson fans y’all don’t have a humble bone in your bodies. 10 years ago you were where we are. Yet now you’re preaching from your high horse as if y’all are immune to the dark and down times... You know those teams that had double digit wins four straight years and beat y’all five straight years... Those were helmed by a worn out legend? No those were run by a legend who had enough of the infighting with the boosters and trustees over his staff and recruiting. The ACC is a cakewalk try playing a primarily SEC schedule every year and let’s see how you do. Oh and you better hope Venables and Elliott never leave him or you’re gonna have one overpaid, in over his head cheerleader on your hands
As someone who was a freshman in 2010 and was at the Alabama game, watching the highlights from those years gives me chills and tons of excitement. I'm very optimistic about coach Beamer, I think the press conference showed how excited he is to try and bring that culture back to Columbia.
@@michaelschaefer1904 So did Dabo....coaches with National Championship trophies often just look to wind down their career. Dabo felt he had something to prove. Dabo has a lot in common with Beamer. Probably the best coaching hire ever for the Gamecocks, as long as they give him enough time to get his recruits in and starting. Often, programs expect instant results these days. Carolina needs a full rebuild though, not just a quarterback or running back. I hope the fans of the Gamecocks have some patience. Year 4 is when big improvements should show...maybe even year 3. I actually want them to be competitive with Clemson. I still want Clemson to win close games against a ranked Gamecock team. Given time, Beamer is the kind of coach that can get them there. It will take time.
Me too. It still blows my mind that USC would disrespect Spurrier like that. Like you don’t ignore or go behind the back of the Carolina that beat #1 Alabama and scored great recruits like Jadeveon, you listen to him and follow his lead. Crazy how they would do that for muschamp and not Spurrier.
@@bellzo5 we didn’t do that with Spurrier we did that with Muschamp Bc he sucks and Ray Tanner was a dummy for hiring a guy that was fired or quit 3 or 4 other SEC schools. He was never good news no matter how hard the media tried to make us think differently.
@@bellzo5 also I just what to say that I would do anything to have spurrier back and watch him throw his visor again. At least he would tell us straight when he’s not happy with the outcome and performance of a game. Muschamp would just say “we’ll go watch film and make corrections” and literally see that never happen. Of course you don’t have that to experience that Bc ur a tiger fan who has a loyal coaching staff. Ray Tanner is incapable of finding that for USC and it is a shame. Hope Beamer can really do something good but I do have any high hopes. Hope y’all have a great season though, that loss to Ohio st was tough to watch but y’all still had a good season!
We got our guy. Culture is what's been lacking over the last 4 years. I saw it back when I was an undergrad between 2010-2014, and we can bring it back. Time for us to have a Renaissance, buy-in, and let's get back to having fun.
As a fan and a student who was at USC during the transition from Spurrier to Muchamp I think you hit a lot of good points. One thing I will mention that you didn’t really touch on was the muschamp contract extension. He received the dumbest contract extension after having one 9 win season. After his results at Florida and shaky first year many people thought the contract extension was offered too early. It was the opinion of a lot of people that Will was a placeholder. It was no secret we had our hearts set on Kirby Smart and it didn’t play out for us. So Will was sort of a back up. And the contract extension locked us in on a coach that ended up costing the team a ton of money and the end result was 7 wins, 4 wins, 2 wins and a 13+ million buy out
Ugh, the early 2010s was a great time to be a Gamecocks fan. It seriously felt like we were so close to finally snagging a championship. Then Spurrier abandoned us (and honestly, I can't blame him for doing it), which lead to the tragic era of Muschamp. As an optimist, I can only hope that Beamer can reignite the fire back into this team.
Don’t you realize he had stopped recruiting in 2011, so when he saw the team collapsing in 2014 and 2015, he knew it was his fault so he left to avoid the humiliation of it all.
@@volusiasorange that’s why i said it’s about matchups. Georgia have a bama a run for its money. But bama would destroy many other teams simply because of personnel matchups
Was not aware that Spurrier was being forced to fire/replace assistants, which was a reason why he left. Another thing that hurt USC is that they probably would've hired Smart had UGA not fired Richt. As a UGA fan, it was documented that the power players wanted smart, and when it came out smart was being interviewed for the USC job, UGA fired Richt. The rest is history.
Not trying to troll you here, but 2011-2013 were the anomaly for Carolina football, not the norm. They haven't really fallen far at all. They've just come back to what they normally have been over the course of 130 years for the most part. Obv going 2-8 this year is worse than normal, but the Muschamp years overall are basically what Carolina has always been other than the one Spurrier run.
Great video man. I’d love to hear some more details regarding the board of trustees and Spurrier, obviously in interviews that is not the reason he gave - nor that he would say that on camera. I was in school there those years and man was it a blast. I clearly didn’t choose SC cause of a football program but what I got was way more than I expected and will always appreciate it.
You really have to do the downfall of Stanford Football. They were one of the best programs in college football from 2010-2016. However, they've really fallen off since Christian McCaffrey left. Basically you really need to do them
Cole you did a fantastic job with this video. I was at Carolina and in the marching band for the 2008-2011 seasons and while it sucks to see us fall from grace you really summed up the last 10 years pretty damn well. good on ya man.
Great stuff! You should do a downfall of Arkansas football covering how they fell apart after the Bobby Petrino situation up until now. Pretty amazing how we went from being ranked BCS #3 in 2011 to 4-8 the next year and things only got worse after that. Luckily we seem to be improving under Sam Pittman so it would be interesting to see your take on it!
VT alum here, don’t ever consider Fuente lol (he’s also on the hot seat)....hoping Shane turns things around for you guys. If not no hard feelings. It is his first job. It’ll take a few years for sure, but his father Frank was known for creating something out of nothing with 2-3 star recruits.
@TheRapper10000 can you name for me a coach that has succeeded under Snyder? Spurrier actually was a genius to get out of there as soon as he did every other coach's career was ruined after going to the Washington.
I can tell you games we lost we should have won and we’d be a top 10 program right now. ‘84 Navy, 2011 Arkansas 2012 Florida 2013 Tennessee. We were the best team in SEC East and had we made the SEC title game four years in a row we’d be a top 5 program
During the Garcia, Gilmore, Ingram, Swearinger, Jeffrey, Lattimore and Shaw years, you couldn't pay any Clemson fans to discuss Carolina Gamecock Football.
Since 2014 they bring us up almost any chance. As a child and teen in the 80 and 90s they were more like pre-2015. It's why I give then the hard time they deserve. They're mostly fairweather fans.
When mentioning the divide between the fan base and the spurrier and Muschamp players u were spot on bro. Muschamp players cared more about themselves then winning and that showed itself when Muschamp was fired. You will never be a successful program when u have guys who care about personal achievements rather than the success of the program itself. Awesome video bro. Definitely subscribing ‼️
That golden era by the Gamecocks in the early 2010s is the exception, and not the norm for Gamecock football. South Carolina high school football during that time was probably at it’s peak and the Gamecocks landed the state’s Mr. Football 3 times in a row who were also top national recruits in Gilmore, Lattimore, and Clowney. Teams like Byrnes, Dorman, South Pointe, Berkeley were some of the country’s best teams. Gamecocks benefited from a very talented pool of players from the state at that time. Also, Spurrier lack in recruiting late in his tenure is a reason for the downfall. He stop actively recruiting high school underclassmen and SC Mr. Football Shaq Roland left the program while he was there.
I went there from 2009-2011. It was such a great time. The entire city gets wasted. We used to go DT Columbia as 15 year olds drinking upfront of cops. Giant party. The Space Odyssey opening to the games is insane! Before sandstorm.... Also, beating Bama......Holy God people were breaking windows, guns were firing off, and people running crazy all around.
Gamecocks looked like an actual football team this past Saturday, in the opening week where teams struggling like Clemson. Just please keep that same energy all season
i like how you casually mentioned Lincoln Riley was a candidate for the job. I think he would've really given USC a great chance at competing with Clemson, bama, Florida, and everyone else in the SEC.
Great video! You did an excellent job of explaining the Fanbase in the entire university. One correction though, Williams Braves stadium is actually not in the heart of Columbia, it’s south of downtown. Other than that, A+ performance by you.
If there was ever a fan base that deserves a good season it’s South Carolina and this is coming from a Bama fan. Those people are incredibly loyal. By the way, that 2010 Alabama team that lost to USC is still one of the big mysteries of Alabama football. That team was stacked with talent and I still don’t know how they lost 3 games.
Have to say this was both fair and accurate on exactly how it went down. Hopefully Shane will turn it around now. I do think he's the right hire at the right time. And he knows how to recruit. The only thing you really didn't hit on is at 3:38 talking about Alshon, Marcus, Stephon Gilmore. They were all recruited to SC by Beamer.
@@volusiasorange ahh yes always except 10 years ago when you didn't. You're another trailer park trash Clemson fan that is an embarrassment to the state.
@@davidfence6939 it's 71-42, love. When you can't argue about football, you start telling a random person on the Internet that they're "trailer trash" or whatever because you read about 12 words that they typed. LOL... sheesh. You need therapy. Also, your school's team is hot bright trash. I'm not even bragging about Clemson owning them. It'd be an embarrassment if we didn't.
@@volusiasorange It's always funny to me that a 63% win percentage is considered "owned" by Clemson fans. I mean I get it, football is all you have, but 63% is "owning"? Yikes.
TheRapper10000 he’s not the best but he is very solid. State has had multiple 9 win season recently (this year counts for me). 2 years ago was rough but State is ranked almost every year
Good thing is, I don't think there will be a division between Spurrier and Muschamp era guys anymore cuz Connor Shaw was hired on as QBs coach and Beamer was the one who recruited him, Jadaveon Clowney, Lattimore, Gilmore, etc.
Been a gamecock my whole life. Remember the Brad Scott era, remember the Lou Holtz era, the glorious Steve Spurrier era and the awful Will Muschamp era. If anyone that we interviewed can resurrect this program, it's Shane Beamer. Let's get it coach! #forevertothee
I am a USC (yes we were USC before California was a state) grad but I was a fan long before I went to college there. I was raised in Cola and went to my first game against Wake Forest in the late 60's. Joe Morrison was the most well known coach we ever had before Holtz and then Spurrier. We have a great fanbase and they love their football. Hiring a new coach is always kind of a crapshoot. Who in the world woulda guessed Dabo was a good choice to replace Bowden. Not me. A WR coach who had never been a head coach before. His first few years were nothing special, but they stuck with him, I assume because he was building a solid culture from the inside out and building his recruiting. Beamer is known to be an excellent recruiter. His dad built a fantastic culture at Va Tech, so he has seen that kind of program built from within. I think he is worth the chance and it doesn't hurt that he just came from Oklahoma where they know a little something about winning culture. I am behind Shane Beamer 100% give him a chance to put together a staff and see if that winning culture can be built.
As a third generation South Carolina fan this is so accurate and very in-depth. You really captured the thoughts and feelings of diehard Gamecock fans and our desire to have a program that at the end of the day should produce results and win games. Also we need to be able to beat Clemson and cant believe I'm saying this, but also beat Costal Carolina. Keep up the good content!
If they want to win, I'd almost hire him as the AD, I don't know how they're doing in other sports, but that might be the move. *edit, by him, I mean spurrier in case it was vague
As a Gamecock fan I'm cautiously optimistic about him. I was a student at Carolina during the Spurrier era and it was glorious beating that team from the upstate five years in a row. Hopefully I can be a proud fan again and not constantly saying "at least we have baseball.."
Cole - this has been a really rough year. I’m pausing at 30 seconds in to tell you how much it means to me for you to beam happiness into my very soul by making this. Eternal Thanks. Go Tigers! 😊
When I read your title I was first annoyed. But when I watched your TH-cam Video I couldn't disagree with your Perspective. I also learned some things. I have been a loyal fan for decades. You were respectful and informative. Only thing I disagree with is the Million Dollar Statue is a Gamecock and not a chicken. A Gamecock is Male Rooster that Has Been Trained to Mame or Kill its Male Rooster Opponent. Gamecock fighting was a ruthless horrible sport where competitors and fans took bets on which Gamecock would win. The reason I mention this is because of the Symbolisim that Gamecocks would many times fight to his death. Meaning Gamecocks never Give up or Quit. They endure to the end. The Symbolism of this is What many and Most Gamecock Fans are Proud of. Thank you for your research and your video.
My family has been a contributor to Gamecock Club for generations. I graduated from U of SC in 1987. The fans have stayed loyal to the program. We have A+ facilities. Spurrier built a platform that had never existed. It was a tough spot for Will Muschamp, but it was incredulous to have ever given him contracts as we did. May that never happen again. I am excited and very supportive of the selection of Shane Beamer. I hope we do t have another "Downfall" of the program. We need to look at the positive turn with Beamer. Appreciate your work on video...but it is time for a new culture of unity going forward. #ForevertoThee
The top 5 moments of the Muschamp years has to be: 1.) USC fans throwing bottles on the field. 2.) USC season ticket holders openly claim they suck. 3.) Losing to UK and Tennessee year after year. 4.) Beating UGA (fluke) and thinking they're hot stuff going into the Alabama game. 5.) Having boomers throw beer at myself and my U18 brother (future USC law student). Bonus: Drunk frat guy hanging out of a minivan telling me to fuck off as im walking back to my car. :) Never change USC, never change.
Hey Cole I remember reading that same story about how the decisions makers at USC didn’t like some of the defensive coaches and how they acted that u referenced. I can’t seem to find it on the internet. Do you have the link?
Great video representation of what the beef of the two big recent eras of HBC at USC. We as the fans can only hope Beamer does actually bring us back Home. Forever to Thee!!! Go Cocks!!!
Listen I’m a gamecocks fan, but I didn’t even know we had a chance at Lincoln Riley, grant it in 15 but damn, Thank you for finally making this video, trust me it was needed
Lincoln withdrew if I remember correctly because Stoops shared with him that he would be retiring soon and that he wanted Riley to be his replacement which happened only a year later.
Have been a fan since 1975... From Carlen and Morrison to to Brad Scott and then Lou Holtz and finally Spurrior and Muschamp... Each had winning years... Morrison had two if the best in 1984 & 1987... But sadly with the exception of Morrison who died, the rest left in shambles.
Spurrier didn't seem to interested in keeping his staff together (many of them got out) and wasn't too interested in replacing them with excellent recruiters. It's not a coincidence that the recruiting fell off once a lot of those coaches left. It's also not a coincidence that when those recruiters were on staff that the program enjoyed an excellent run under Spurrier relative to his 35-28 start. Look at how the program faltered when he lost his good coaches. Bad hired coaches to replace them.
The downfall started with Spurrier, don't overlook that. He lost the team and stopped recruiting. Columbia is not a destination job. If Beamer turns it, and Fuentes fails, guess where the Shane Train steams off to......
I am a big South Carolina fan. I am young enough to only remember them being decent or really bad like this year. I first actually paying attention in 2015. (When i was 6).
Very interesting comments. In the Holtz era, overlooking the excesses of 22 Derek Watson led to his downfall and loss of the team. For Spurrier, his comments about only coaching a couple of more years killed his recruiting. The arrogance of a coaching staff member alienated the HS coaches. He, also, lost the team. Muschamp was a mistake from the beginning. Tanner learned and acted more quickly this time when things became obvious. Shane Beamer is an excellent candidate who can unite the players, fans, and donors. I look for very good things in a couple of years and hope we are paying him a ton of money to keep him here in about three years. Go Gamecocks!
You have one thing really wrong the BOT didn’t make Steve Spurrier retire because he wanted to retire after the 7-6 season but his family talk him into coming back for one more year. Things got bad the last 2 years here because our recruiting tanked.
Look back, it baffles me that South Carolina didn’t get a chance to play at a New Years six bowl during those 3 great years. Nowadays teams that lose 2- 3 games or more seem to make it to those big bowls smh
@@showtale8325 True they have pretty much always been a losing program. But again so have so many other SEC teams, KY, Vandy, Miss state, And Ark are not much better in the past 50 years.
Injuries. It just seems like Carolina has always had a ton of injuries every year. So three games in to any season over the past decade, we start hearing, “Gamecocks have been disseminated by injuries.” I think that has played a big part in the downturn. Also hoping that the new “high scoring offenses” paradigm in college football doesn’t totally take away the defensive emphasis of the SEC. Carolina had some great defenses those years you’re talking about. Loved watching them play.
I knew this day would come, that you would talk about the Gamecocks. As a South Carolina native, you'll hear a lot about Clemson vs Alabama. Rivary week isn't even rivary week, it's just watching a tiger walking into a chicken coop which is exactly what it is.
Before Spurrier came, Carolina was 2-18-2 against Tennessee and 3-19-3 against Florida; Carolina's most recent wins against them were in 1992 and 1939, respectively. Spurrier beat both of them in his first season.
I used to watch them a lot during the Steve Spurrier era with a friend that is a die hard Carolina fan and I tell my friend to this day they should have never lost Spurrier
It was more than him. We lost a lot of people. Losing our strength and conditioning coach was the biggest hitter. Also, I’m pretty sure the only games we lost was when Marcus was hurt
Spurrier quit recruiting in 2011. The collapse that began in 2014 and 2015 was well in the making before he ever officially quit and he knew that. He only quit when he did, because he didn’t want to face the humiliation of having the fan base realize he’d let the program die on his watch.
I went to the South Carolina Georgia game in 2012. (A lot of my family is from Carolina, so I've always liked them.) And it was unbelievable how energetic the stadium was.
That was such a fun night. Only louder time was the 2010 Alabama game.
@@davidfence6939 I dont know, that Ace Sanders punt return was absolute mayhem!
Did you to the 2012 game vs Florida ?
Because they have hella heart there. You should have went during the ‘14 season. Dawg it was 🔥!!!
@@davidfence6939 the ole miss game when we knocked em off when they were #4 when sandstorm was born
Fun fact: South Carolina is the last SEC east team to defeat Alabama
I was there and I was awesome!
lol
@@volusiasorange I expect nothing less from a Clemson fan. That’s okay though, Bama keeps rolling all over y’all.
@@donnajernigan5821 Really? 44-16
@@volusiasorange Alabama has beat y’all 14 out of 19 times but good for y’all.
We hired Muschamp, that’s what happened
I never understood why they thought someone that couldn't win at Florida was going to work at sc.
😂💯
@@glasswhisperer I know dude, Florida is a pillar in the SEC. I think I heard somewhere that Georgia caught wind of Kirby Smart taking the SC job and offered him an awesome deal. He's a UG grad so that helped.
That doesn't explain your shocking collapse in Spurrier's last two seasons though. What on earth happened?
@@thunderbird1921 slurrier stopped giving a fuck and just collected the checks
"Enough to give you hope, but to let you down when it mattered the most."
Accurate synopsis of Carolina football. - Dead on the money with this statement.
Go Gamecocks.
South Carolina has one hell of a recruiting tool in Shane Beamer. As a Sooners fan I'm excited for them and him and hope to see them in a NY6 Bowl game someday.
@Phil Ill We'll see I personally think he'll do well but I also just want Shane Beamer to succeed because he's known as one of the genuine good guys in the sport.
@Phil Ill People said the same thing about Dabo. The thing is, I'd rather take a risk on a guy with actual potential compared to the other options there were.
Shane Beamer is not your answer. Hokie here
@@tkkcali your opinion isn't the answer.
@@davidfence6939 neither is your opinion on my opinion
I feel like you described it perfectly, this program can win it just needs the right coach. In my opinion Shane Beamer is the perfect guy for the job. He loves the program and the fans.
Lies again? Soccer Club
I feel for the Gamecocks, they've been reduced to a doormat in their own conference and a glorified bye week for Clemson.
Clemson said: "Watch this"
To be fair, Clemson has been unreal the last 5-6 years. Clemson has been a mediocre program for the vast majority of their history. But they’re unbelievable now. Dabo’s Tigers remind me of Bobby Bowden’s Seminole teams from the 1990’s.
thats vandy lmao
@@danielmoore411 mediocre ? Clemson has been above average for most of their history
@King David Smith III I even called the first missed field goal. I said "Don't worry, we can still miss this field goal" not ten seconds before we missed it. FML.
"They got cocky"
Shows a picture of the mascot, *cocky*
6:56“The trustees got cocky”
Man this one hurts. Long story short we replaced Steve Spurrier with Will Muschamp. We went from a Mercedes to a Kia
When Texas A&M blew you guys out at home in 2014, I knew something was seriously wrong with your team. At the time though, I thought you guys were merely having a single down reloading year. Then 2015 happened and everything started blowing apart.
@@thunderbird1921 Honestly I felt Spurrier just coasted those last years thanks to extremely talented recruiting classes.
You went to a Fiat
Maybe, but the Mercedes was worn out and never felt the same about South Carolina. Meanwhile, the Clemson fans watched in horror as the Gamecocks were hiring big name coaches like Lou Holtz and Steve Spurrier. At the same time Clemson was hiring washed up coaches sons like Tommy Bowden, and finally some clown nobody ever heard of named Dabo Swinney. I and half the fans were nearly in revolt after they failed to fire him after going 6-7 in his 2nd full year. I wanted everybody at Clemson fired and thought Clemson might never again beat the Gamecocks. Little did I know, Dabo was to become our best coach ever. Clemson had showed me and other fans were idiots. The Gamecocks were hiring past legends that never brought their past glory with them. Clemson was hiring coaches we, nor anyone else ever heard of except Dabo. Eventually his belief, made us fans believe too.
@@sarge1231 Worn out? I don’t recall mentioning Lou Houltz lol... But you see thats the problem with Clemson fans y’all don’t have a humble bone in your bodies. 10 years ago you were where we are. Yet now you’re preaching from your high horse as if y’all are immune to the dark and down times... You know those teams that had double digit wins four straight years and beat y’all five straight years... Those were helmed by a worn out legend? No those were run by a legend who had enough of the infighting with the boosters and trustees over his staff and recruiting. The ACC is a cakewalk try playing a primarily SEC schedule every year and let’s see how you do. Oh and you better hope Venables and Elliott never leave him or you’re gonna have one overpaid, in over his head cheerleader on your hands
As someone who was a freshman in 2010 and was at the Alabama game, watching the highlights from those years gives me chills and tons of excitement. I'm very optimistic about coach Beamer, I think the press conference showed how excited he is to try and bring that culture back to Columbia.
Beamer was with Spurrier for 4 years. He reminds me a bit of Bob Stoops with fewer impressive job titles.
@@michaelschaefer1904 So did Dabo....coaches with National Championship trophies often just look to wind down their career. Dabo felt he had something to prove. Dabo has a lot in common with Beamer. Probably the best coaching hire ever for the Gamecocks, as long as they give him enough time to get his recruits in and starting. Often, programs expect instant results these days. Carolina needs a full rebuild though, not just a quarterback or running back. I hope the fans of the Gamecocks have some patience. Year 4 is when big improvements should show...maybe even year 3. I actually want them to be competitive with Clemson. I still want Clemson to win close games against a ranked Gamecock team. Given time, Beamer is the kind of coach that can get them there. It will take time.
I miss the Steve Spurrier days. SCAR was fun to watch when he was there.
Me too. It still blows my mind that USC would disrespect Spurrier like that. Like you don’t ignore or go behind the back of the Carolina that beat #1 Alabama and scored great recruits like Jadeveon, you listen to him and follow his lead. Crazy how they would do that for muschamp and not Spurrier.
Yea it was fun watching him throw his visor and criticize the team even tho the city prays them for losing
Go 🐅
@@bellzo5 we didn’t do that with Spurrier we did that with Muschamp Bc he sucks and Ray Tanner was a dummy for hiring a guy that was fired or quit 3 or 4 other SEC schools. He was never good news no matter how hard the media tried to make us think differently.
@@bellzo5 also I just what to say that I would do anything to have spurrier back and watch him throw his visor again. At least he would tell us straight when he’s not happy with the outcome and performance of a game. Muschamp would just say “we’ll go watch film and make corrections” and literally see that never happen. Of course you don’t have that to experience that Bc ur a tiger fan who has a loyal coaching staff. Ray Tanner is incapable of finding that for USC and it is a shame. Hope Beamer can really do something good but I do have any high hopes. Hope y’all have a great season though, that loss to Ohio st was tough to watch but y’all still had a good season!
@@savannahking9619 he say the thing ever coach say he was doing that y'all team just suck
We got our guy. Culture is what's been lacking over the last 4 years. I saw it back when I was an undergrad between 2010-2014, and we can bring it back. Time for us to have a Renaissance, buy-in, and let's get back to having fun.
Losing is actually a culture, maybe not the one you want buts it’s a culture none the less
As a fan and a student who was at USC during the transition from Spurrier to Muchamp I think you hit a lot of good points. One thing I will mention that you didn’t really touch on was the muschamp contract extension. He received the dumbest contract extension after having one 9 win season. After his results at Florida and shaky first year many people thought the contract extension was offered too early. It was the opinion of a lot of people that Will was a placeholder. It was no secret we had our hearts set on Kirby Smart and it didn’t play out for us. So Will was sort of a back up. And the contract extension locked us in on a coach that ended up costing the team a ton of money and the end result was 7 wins, 4 wins, 2 wins and a 13+ million buy out
Ugh, the early 2010s was a great time to be a Gamecocks fan. It seriously felt like we were so close to finally snagging a championship. Then Spurrier abandoned us (and honestly, I can't blame him for doing it), which lead to the tragic era of Muschamp. As an optimist, I can only hope that Beamer can reignite the fire back into this team.
Don’t you realize he had stopped recruiting in 2011, so when he saw the team collapsing in 2014 and 2015, he knew it was his fault so he left to avoid the humiliation of it all.
If lattimore stayed healthy we could’ve made it fr
Very accurate. Also glad you spoke of how we were robbed in NY6 Bowls and 2012 we had the team to win a national championship.
lol no you didn't
@@volusiasorange destroyed Georgia. Georgia almost best Alabama. It’s about matchups.
@@YardratZ Also lost to Florida by 33
@@volusiasorange that’s why i said it’s about matchups. Georgia have a bama a run for its money. But bama would destroy many other teams simply because of personnel matchups
@@YardratZ Not really. It's mostly about talent and coaching. And national title-caliber teams don't get beat by 33
Was not aware that Spurrier was being forced to fire/replace assistants, which was a reason why he left. Another thing that hurt USC is that they probably would've hired Smart had UGA not fired Richt. As a UGA fan, it was documented that the power players wanted smart, and when it came out smart was being interviewed for the USC job, UGA fired Richt. The rest is history.
My dad played for SC from 76-79
Sad to see how far they’ve fallen
Not trying to troll you here, but 2011-2013 were the anomaly for Carolina football, not the norm. They haven't really fallen far at all. They've just come back to what they normally have been over the course of 130 years for the most part. Obv going 2-8 this year is worse than normal, but the Muschamp years overall are basically what Carolina has always been other than the one Spurrier run.
Sakerlina sucked back then too, minus 79.....
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Yea they sucked then too
Yeah they sucked then too
The Rise of Chandler Tingle
Nah... at this point it should be The Consistency of Chandler Tingle 😂
Good stuff bro!
I’m subscribed to you
@@haydenhorton6298 How does this not have more like? Might be the most underrated comment of all time
Ptet
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Great video man. I’d love to hear some more details regarding the board of trustees and Spurrier, obviously in interviews that is not the reason he gave - nor that he would say that on camera. I was in school there those years and man was it a blast. I clearly didn’t choose SC cause of a football program but what I got was way more than I expected and will always appreciate it.
You really have to do the downfall of Stanford Football. They were one of the best programs in college football from 2010-2016. However, they've really fallen off since Christian McCaffrey left. Basically you really need to do them
As a gamecocks fan this is so accurate and nostalgic made me happy remembering those years hopefully we do better this year
USC fan here. You nailed it. The main issues under the Muschamp administration were lack of player development and toxic culture
Cole you did a fantastic job with this video. I was at Carolina and in the marching band for the 2008-2011 seasons and while it sucks to see us fall from grace you really summed up the last 10 years pretty damn well. good on ya man.
Still feel bad for Marcus Lattimore
Had so much potential man
Great stuff! You should do a downfall of Arkansas football covering how they fell apart after the Bobby Petrino situation up until now. Pretty amazing how we went from being ranked BCS #3 in 2011 to 4-8 the next year and things only got worse after that. Luckily we seem to be improving under Sam Pittman so it would be interesting to see your take on it!
from a south carolina fan perspective this video hit every note, great video that really explains it all
My mom and aunt are gamecocks, been a lot of bad years. Thank god they got rid of will muschamp. Things will hopefully get better for South Carolina.
VT alum here, don’t ever consider Fuente lol (he’s also on the hot seat)....hoping Shane turns things around for you guys. If not no hard feelings. It is his first job. It’ll take a few years for sure, but his father Frank was known for creating something out of nothing with 2-3 star recruits.
The something out of nothing is so true. I always admired senior Beamer and VT for that.
Damn it was nice seeing the Glory days for a moment even though brief
They're coming back. 2023 could be a huge breakout season.
Spurrier left Florida after the 2001-2002 season not in 1996. He won the National Championship with Florida in the 1996-1997 season.
@TheRapper10000 So was Gibbs with their owner.
@TheRapper10000 can you name for me a coach that has succeeded under Snyder? Spurrier actually was a genius to get out of there as soon as he did every other coach's career was ruined after going to the Washington.
I can tell you games we lost we should have won and we’d be a top 10 program right now. ‘84 Navy, 2011 Arkansas 2012 Florida 2013 Tennessee. We were the best team in SEC East and had we made the SEC title game four years in a row we’d be a top 5 program
During the Garcia, Gilmore, Ingram, Swearinger, Jeffrey, Lattimore and Shaw years, you couldn't pay any Clemson fans to discuss Carolina Gamecock Football.
Since 2014 they bring us up almost any chance. As a child and teen in the 80 and 90s they were more like pre-2015. It's why I give then the hard time they deserve. They're mostly fairweather fans.
When mentioning the divide between the fan base and the spurrier and Muschamp players u were spot on bro. Muschamp players cared more about themselves then winning and that showed itself when Muschamp was fired. You will never be a successful program when u have guys who care about personal achievements rather than the success of the program itself. Awesome video bro. Definitely subscribing ‼️
That golden era by the Gamecocks in the early 2010s is the exception, and not the norm for Gamecock football. South Carolina high school football during that time was probably at it’s peak and the Gamecocks landed the state’s Mr. Football 3 times in a row who were also top national recruits in Gilmore, Lattimore, and Clowney. Teams like Byrnes, Dorman, South Pointe, Berkeley were some of the country’s best teams. Gamecocks benefited from a very talented pool of players from the state at that time.
Also, Spurrier lack in recruiting late in his tenure is a reason for the downfall. He stop actively recruiting high school underclassmen and SC Mr. Football Shaq Roland left the program while he was there.
being a south carolina fan is more painful than scooter ankle
I went there from 2009-2011. It was such a great time. The entire city gets wasted. We used to go DT Columbia as 15 year olds drinking upfront of cops. Giant party.
The Space Odyssey opening to the games is insane! Before sandstorm....
Also, beating Bama......Holy God people were breaking windows, guns were firing off, and people running crazy all around.
Kirby Smart was in the bag then Georgia fired their coach to keep him from coming to Carolina. I believe Beamer will bring it back
Smart was never going to SC. Used that job as leverage. He was UGA’s #1 choice from the get go.
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Also when every body was amped up in the stadium you could feel the upper tower seating swaying. It was so wild and crazy feeling.
Gamecocks looked like an actual football team this past Saturday, in the opening week where teams struggling like Clemson. Just please keep that same energy all season
“The team still has Gunner Stockton committed”. Yeaaaaa about that
Think we actually got a higher rated QB committed now and the dude is 6'5" lol
Aint seen a big QB like that in a hot minute good to see what goes on
i like how you casually mentioned Lincoln Riley was a candidate for the job. I think he would've really given USC a great chance at competing with Clemson, bama, Florida, and everyone else in the SEC.
Great video! You did an excellent job of explaining the Fanbase in the entire university. One correction though, Williams Braves stadium is actually not in the heart of Columbia, it’s south of downtown. Other than that, A+ performance by you.
Ebb and flow, as a lifelong carolina fan they can come back to being competitive
If there was ever a fan base that deserves a good season it’s South Carolina and this is coming from a Bama fan. Those people are incredibly loyal. By the way, that 2010 Alabama team that lost to USC is still one of the big mysteries of Alabama football. That team was stacked with talent and I still don’t know how they lost 3 games.
Fantastic video man. As a Carolina fan you hit the nail on the head.
Have to say this was both fair and accurate on exactly how it went down. Hopefully Shane will turn it around now. I do think he's the right hire at the right time. And he knows how to recruit. The only thing you really didn't hit on is at 3:38 talking about Alshon, Marcus, Stephon Gilmore. They were all recruited to SC by Beamer.
As a life long Clemson fan I would love to see the Battle for the Palmetto State turn back into what it used to be.
We've always owned them. It's right where it should be
@@volusiasorange ahh yes always except 10 years ago when you didn't. You're another trailer park trash Clemson fan that is an embarrassment to the state.
@@davidfence6939 it's 71-42, love. When you can't argue about football, you start telling a random person on the Internet that they're "trailer trash" or whatever because you read about 12 words that they typed. LOL... sheesh. You need therapy. Also, your school's team is hot bright trash. I'm not even bragging about Clemson owning them. It'd be an embarrassment if we didn't.
@@volusiasorange It's always funny to me that a 63% win percentage is considered "owned" by Clemson fans. I mean I get it, football is all you have, but 63% is "owning"? Yikes.
@@USCxGAMECOCKS1801 U of SC would have to win 29 years in a row to catch up. I'd say it is
Bro you are the most underrated youtuber on TH-cam. Great content
TheRapper10000 he’s not the best but he is very solid. State has had multiple 9 win season recently (this year counts for me). 2 years ago was rough but State is ranked almost every year
Good thing is, I don't think there will be a division between Spurrier and Muschamp era guys anymore cuz Connor Shaw was hired on as QBs coach and Beamer was the one who recruited him, Jadaveon Clowney, Lattimore, Gilmore, etc.
Been a gamecock my whole life. Remember the Brad Scott era, remember the Lou Holtz era, the glorious Steve Spurrier era and the awful Will Muschamp era. If anyone that we interviewed can resurrect this program, it's Shane Beamer. Let's get it coach! #forevertothee
i’m a usc fan and this video was 100 accurate
I am a USC (yes we were USC before California was a state) grad but I was a fan long before I went to college there. I was raised in Cola and went to my first game against Wake Forest in the late 60's.
Joe Morrison was the most well known coach we ever had before Holtz and then Spurrier. We have a great fanbase and they love their football. Hiring a new coach is always kind of a crapshoot. Who in the world woulda guessed Dabo was a good choice to replace Bowden. Not me. A WR coach who had never been a head coach before. His first few years were nothing special, but they stuck with him, I assume because he was building a solid culture from the inside out and building his recruiting. Beamer is known to be an excellent recruiter. His dad built a fantastic culture at Va Tech, so he has seen that kind of program built from within. I think he is worth the chance and it doesn't hurt that he just came from Oklahoma where they know a little something about winning culture. I am behind Shane Beamer 100% give him a chance to put together a staff and see if that winning culture can be built.
when you talked about Mark Dantonio my first reaction was, “Wait, Mike D’antoni coaches basketball, wtf?”
As a third generation South Carolina fan this is so accurate and very in-depth. You really captured the thoughts and feelings of diehard Gamecock fans and our desire to have a program that at the end of the day should produce results and win games. Also we need to be able to beat Clemson and cant believe I'm saying this, but also beat Costal Carolina. Keep up the good content!
If they want to win, I'd almost hire him as the AD, I don't know how they're doing in other sports, but that might be the move. *edit, by him, I mean spurrier in case it was vague
That bronze gamecock was such a waste of money. They could hired a service to get rid of all the mold in Bates with how much it cost
All goes back to spurrier jr recruiting, and his dad quitting mid season
Beamer is going to build something we'll be back to winning soon enough.
They will at least be competitive again
I hope, hokie alum here so new SC fan.
As a Gamecock fan I'm cautiously optimistic about him. I was a student at Carolina during the Spurrier era and it was glorious beating that team from the upstate five years in a row. Hopefully I can be a proud fan again and not constantly saying "at least we have baseball.."
98erics I feel like we should move Ray Tanner back to baseball and find a new AD
@@snapkrr Thats a good idea
Cole - this has been a really rough year. I’m pausing at 30 seconds in to tell you how much it means to me for you to beam happiness into my very soul by making this. Eternal Thanks.
Go Tigers! 😊
What tigers?
When I read your title I was first annoyed. But when I watched your TH-cam Video I couldn't disagree with your Perspective.
I also learned some things. I have been a loyal fan for decades. You were respectful and informative.
Only thing I disagree with is the Million Dollar Statue is a Gamecock and not a chicken.
A Gamecock is Male Rooster that Has Been Trained to Mame or Kill its Male Rooster Opponent.
Gamecock fighting was a ruthless horrible sport where competitors and fans took bets on which Gamecock would win.
The reason I mention this is because of the Symbolisim that Gamecocks would many times fight to his death.
Meaning Gamecocks never Give up or Quit. They endure to the end.
The Symbolism of this is What many and Most Gamecock Fans are Proud of.
Thank you for your research and your video.
Seeing the video of Beamer coming back home, even still, becomes a tear jerker.
Us gator fans warned Scar about muschamp
My family has been a contributor to Gamecock Club for generations. I graduated from U of SC in 1987. The fans have stayed loyal to the program. We have A+ facilities. Spurrier built a platform that had never existed. It was a tough spot for Will Muschamp, but it was incredulous to have ever given him contracts as we did. May that never happen again. I am excited and very supportive of the selection of Shane Beamer. I hope we do t have another "Downfall" of the program. We need to look at the positive turn with Beamer. Appreciate your work on video...but it is time for a new culture of unity going forward. #ForevertoThee
The top 5 moments of the Muschamp years has to be:
1.) USC fans throwing bottles on the field.
2.) USC season ticket holders openly claim they suck.
3.) Losing to UK and Tennessee year after year.
4.) Beating UGA (fluke) and thinking they're hot stuff going into the Alabama game.
5.) Having boomers throw beer at myself and my U18 brother (future USC law student).
Bonus: Drunk frat guy hanging out of a minivan telling me to fuck off as im walking back to my car. :)
Never change USC, never change.
Hey Cole I remember reading that same story about how the decisions makers at USC didn’t like some of the defensive coaches and how they acted that u referenced. I can’t seem to find it on the internet. Do you have the link?
The amount of passion Steve spurier showed on the side line was unreal. He took football so seriously and it showed with everything he did.
Beamer will need time to get the program back up to being competitive and the entire fan base will need to be patient, but i feel he's a good fit
Agree.
Hopefully we can get back to these days
Great video representation of what the beef of the two big recent eras of HBC at USC. We as the fans can only hope Beamer does actually bring us back Home. Forever to Thee!!! Go Cocks!!!
Listen I’m a gamecocks fan, but I didn’t even know we had a chance at Lincoln Riley, grant it in 15 but damn, Thank you for finally making this video, trust me it was needed
Lincoln withdrew if I remember correctly because Stoops shared with him that he would be retiring soon and that he wanted Riley to be his replacement which happened only a year later.
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Great stuff i thought I was the only one who felt the disconnect with the players
Have been a fan since 1975... From Carlen and Morrison to to Brad Scott and then Lou Holtz and finally Spurrior and Muschamp... Each had winning years... Morrison had two if the best in 1984 & 1987... But sadly with the exception of Morrison who died, the rest left in shambles.
Great, informative video!
We might lose the game but we win the tailgate #GoCocks
Heard dat
No lies here
Spurrier didn't seem to interested in keeping his staff together (many of them got out) and wasn't too interested in replacing them with excellent recruiters. It's not a coincidence that the recruiting fell off once a lot of those coaches left. It's also not a coincidence that when those recruiters were on staff that the program enjoyed an excellent run under Spurrier relative to his 35-28 start.
Look at how the program faltered when he lost his good coaches. Bad hired coaches to replace them.
Get ready to make the come up of South Carolina
This is an amazing video. Thanks for the content 🤘🏿🤘🏿
Been a Gamecock my whole life, thank you. Awesome job.
The downfall started with Spurrier, don't overlook that. He lost the team and stopped recruiting. Columbia is not a destination job. If Beamer turns it, and Fuentes fails, guess where the Shane Train steams off to......
Wow! Really well done. Realistic and true, but still hopeful. Terrific balance.
I am a big South Carolina fan. I am young enough to only remember them being decent or really bad like this year. I first actually paying attention in 2015. (When i was 6).
This could almost be a documentary about the Chicken Curse during the Spurrier era.
Glad someone else gets it. We are cursed. Bad Voodoo.... :D
The Chicken Curse is the entire history of USC football. Being that Spurrier couldn’t even defeat it is proof of its existence!
@@edgardeese yup
Very interesting comments. In the Holtz era, overlooking the excesses of 22 Derek Watson led to his downfall and loss of the team. For Spurrier, his comments about only coaching a couple of more years killed his recruiting. The arrogance of a coaching staff member alienated the HS coaches. He, also, lost the team. Muschamp was a mistake from the beginning. Tanner learned and acted more quickly this time when things became obvious. Shane Beamer is an excellent candidate who can unite the players, fans, and donors. I look for very good things in a couple of years and hope we are paying him a ton of money to keep him here in about three years. Go Gamecocks!
Spot on. Several HS coaches have commented on the same arrogance. Course you can not ignore those three great years. Was fun while it lasted.
You have one thing really wrong the BOT didn’t make Steve Spurrier retire because he wanted to retire after the 7-6 season but his family talk him into coming back for one more year. Things got bad the last 2 years here because our recruiting tanked.
Look back, it baffles me that South Carolina didn’t get a chance to play at a New Years six bowl during those 3 great years. Nowadays teams that lose 2- 3 games or more seem to make it to those big bowls smh
Losing for 120 years has it's price
@@showtale8325 True they have pretty much always been a losing program. But again so have so many other SEC teams, KY, Vandy, Miss state, And Ark are not much better in the past 50 years.
2:26 Spurrier left after 2001 season not 1996.
I wish they had college football playoff when we were good
Hell we would have been screwed over.
why? no 2 loss team has made the playoff yet
Injuries. It just seems like Carolina has always had a ton of injuries every year. So three games in to any season over the past decade, we start hearing, “Gamecocks have been disseminated by injuries.” I think that has played a big part in the downturn.
Also hoping that the new “high scoring offenses” paradigm in college football doesn’t totally take away the defensive emphasis of the SEC. Carolina had some great defenses those years you’re talking about. Loved watching them play.
I'm a South Carolina and this is pretty accurate
The day we lost Coach Spurrier was the day we sadly fell off & suffered tremendously
i’m a gamecocks fan and all i know now is pain 😔
I knew this day would come, that you would talk about the Gamecocks. As a South Carolina native, you'll hear a lot about Clemson vs Alabama. Rivary week isn't even rivary week, it's just watching a tiger walking into a chicken coop which is exactly what it is.
At this point, it is a shame that the Clemson rivalry is not even close anymore.
Before Spurrier came, Carolina was 2-18-2 against Tennessee and 3-19-3 against Florida; Carolina's most recent wins against them were in 1992 and 1939, respectively. Spurrier beat both of them in his first season.
The thing that sucks the most is how everything went downhill in such a short amount of time.
Now we hope that happens to Clemson, like LSU this season
I used to watch them a lot during the Steve Spurrier era with a friend that is a die hard Carolina fan and I tell my friend to this day they should have never lost Spurrier
It was more than him. We lost a lot of people. Losing our strength and conditioning coach was the biggest hitter. Also, I’m pretty sure the only games we lost was when Marcus was hurt
Spurrier quit recruiting in 2011. The collapse that began in 2014 and 2015 was well in the making before he ever officially quit and he knew that. He only quit when he did, because he didn’t want to face the humiliation of having the fan base realize he’d let the program die on his watch.
Great video! Well done!