I think my problem with Heavensward is that that doesn't actually happen. The dragon plot is so dominant that the class conflict feels minor, and for all this place being about Halone worship is emphasized, we never learn anything about Halone or that faith. People hate on Stormblood but it does a much better job at world building, so I hope for a HW format with SB quality world building.
I think Tural is too big and diversified for that, but we can hope to a Shadowbringer feel, with a new place to explore and many new groups and cultures and a feel of being in a new world. Tho I'd like it if they focus on parts of Tural and give us a more focused thing yes.
I want to say they possibly may be treating it as an ARR type of refresh not a reboot of sorts, but more of getting back down to that feel of being smaller again essentially being an adventurer again.
Exactly. It took time to build up to fighting Zodiark and the Endsinger; We need to do that again. If we stay up at the Endwalker level, it'll just feel boring.
I hope to, that it would be more in the direction of ARR. After whe traveled to the end of the universe and have probally beaten most of the ancient power houses, and saved multiple worlds, is it time to go back for a smaller scale story. The world would need time to create new dangerous things. Or, they simply are hided in the other continents. I even hoped, that whe would meet a new group in the next expantion, away of the scions. And, that the new expantion could be a check point for new players, to start allready there, instant of has the need to play tought all earlier storys (that the chara is than a new person, similary to 1.0-2.0, for new player). And, that the scions would maybe only have some guest appearance. The game of thrones setting is ok. And, it has the chance, to set up new strings for the next arc (most expantion from arr to stormblood mostly setted up strings, who than came to a end in shadowbringer and endwalker).
Based on some of the stuff they’ve shown off at fan fest, I feel like it’s going to be a lot more than that. It’ll probably start that way, but it’s likely gonna get pretty out there by the end. Hell, they showed off a new player hub that looks like a city from 1000 years in the future and a giant death robot called Eliminator.
I'm convinced Dawntrail will be like A Realm Reborn 2. It'll have it's own base story, but will primarily be setting us up for the next multi-expansion story arc.
I was treating Dawntrail very much like a nice summer vacation kind of experience--until I saw Solution 9. Solution 9 completely threw me for a loop. I would have never even imagined something like that in the DT I had built up in my mind pre-JP fanfest, and I love it.
Yeah, I loved that they only showed very predictable locations up until that reveal. Really succeeded at demonstrating that there are surprises to be found in DT.
I was feeling Dawtrail was feeling abit like in between expansion until I saw Solution 9. I'm a huge cyberpunk fan and loved FFX world so futuristic twist was amazing and now I'm intrigued and hyped for Dawntrail proper.
Well, it's obvious to anyone that it's not going to be a "beach episode", but it is a new beginning. Things need to ramp up again. We didn't go from ARR and Gaius to suddenly defeating Zodiark and the Endsinger.
I don't care what people say. I LOVE the Island Sanctuary system. My main prefers to sleep there in her off duty time because she loves the solitude, peace & quiet and all her island friends she managed to tame. She considers it a proper routine to give her animals tender loving care and tend to her crops. She's an old war veteran and some peace is a rarity and welcome so I love the Island Sanctuary system, it fits her like a glove.🥰🥰🥰
Dude, I still keep up with my island. I love having an instanced home-away-from-home that's separate from housing. I go there just to listen to music and chill, sometimes.
@@anteprs7908No, it's because it becomes a spreadsheet simulator and most people won't bother touching it. There's a reason they're doing different lifestyle content after the abysmal reception on release. People actually thinking they would get something even close to Animal crossing or that Criterion would be equal or even better than the M+ system from World of warcraft.
I been saying this for ages....trust the devs. yoship was distracted with other projects ofc it will hurt ffxiv. when people started crying "the game is going downhill!!!!" I couldn't stop rolling my eyes. this community never learns do they? the devs always deliver.
To be honest I feel there's so much edgy bitterness from gamers. They forget so much in the way of positives and just want to complain (fueled by recency bias). FF14 isn't perfect, there are no perfect games and there are bits here and there I am disgruntled over. However, it has delivered me more excellent gaming and moments than any other MMO ever. I trust CBU3 because they just have a track record of pleasing me.
Tbh beeing a MMO Player is atm not really funny.. because most of the time is just "Yeah WoW Retail is dead, classic is also dead.. FF14 is dead.. GW2 is dead.. ESO is dead.. everything is shit now!" At some point i think "Maybe MMO is not anymore that kind of games you enjoy?" Some kind of bitterness like People that think they can play the same game until the end of their life and now pissed because it dont feel the same anymore, you cant stop time and everything changes even yourself as a person.
What about someone, who plays for years and had unbound love for the game, just for recent time to take away that love? I have 15k hours, I love FF14 and I hate FF14 atm. This game gave me a lot, and I know it can be better, but it's not, it's going down, and I hate to see it.
I mean they set it up perfectly to follow an end of a era of craziness. Fighting end of the world threats with a new hype each expansion for a decade. Now they finally get a break from it and become adventurers who explore the vastness of not only their world, but the other stars reflections. I am so excited for new things to explore (and EXCAVATE) and the sights we will see without wondering if someone is gonna die. Maybe in 9 years they can tug at that again.
I look forward to Estha--Solution 9 blowing us away. I LOVE futuristic elements in FF! A mix of Terra, Esther and maaaaybe a pre-Allag civilization (the Lightning Calamity proceeded the Allag's Earth Calamity)
I'm so glad you took the time you needed to come back fresh! I've missed your analysis on FFXIV, and it's so nice to hear your ideas and speculations on what's to come.
Not to mention, while we've been giving a pretty good schooling on what the aether is, we haven't explored Dynamis or the Soul much. I expect, given that people have translated some of the signs in Solution 9, we'll be taking a deeper look into soul stuff. my big question is, where did solution 9 come from, and why didn't any of the ascians breath a word about it?
It's very much possible, that we find a splinter of Allag surviving, or maybe some connection to other worlds. At this point, we don't know nearly enough. The story will ever keep growing
My theory is that Solution Nine is a city/ark for people of one of the rejoined shards/survivors of a calamity. If it's from another shard, my overall idea for the next big arc is an inter-Shard War, like Golbez on a wider scale.
@@midnightbloomofeorzea7182 could work. Could even cause some chaos as we, just to throw something out there, help an ascian save a peaceful and prosperous nation they built from attack. After all, the seat of nurturing and healing is still out there. A tour of the remaining shards as we push back the void, and look for a way to make good on our promises. To Zero, Cylva, Unukalhai. Maybe we face again the monsters of mach and the world of darkness we sent back where they belonged, but did not kill.
Its likely Pre-Allagan and a result of the civilizations around during the 2nd Umbral Calamity which was the Calamity of Levin (Lightning). It is said that the 2nd umbral Calamity is when civilizations fell from the heavens and dispersed to all corners of the planet. The technology caused great polution and the civilizations went underground. very very similar to what we see from the picture of Heritage Found and Im guessing that Solution 9 is a simulated city recapturing what the 2nd Civilization was.
I normally skip around through most poeple's videos just to get the info, but I've always enjoyed your vibe in videos (both your FF content and your WoW content) and find myself watching through. You seem like a really down to Earth guy. glad to see you still grinding and succeeding, Quazii! Also, you do a good job of giving nuance and detail without it feeling like you're dragging the video on. Out of curiosity, how much of your videos do you script and how much do you just use bullet points and then free form it?
I have a theory about why it's Solution 9. solution 1-7 were the cataclysms. Solution 8 was the 1st. So Solution 9 is the 9th Ascian attempted way to address the problem, the rejoining. We'll have to wait and see.
I like the idea. Minor nitpick, the 1st would probably be solution 2, with only the void coming before it. Solution 9 would be unfinished, leaving the 7th umbral being the 10th attempt at rejoining.
Overall I liked EW. The 6.0 was amazing content, and really 6.1-6.4 was solid. There are a few things people are missing. Yes, XVI might of caused some of the issues, but let's not forget the content they did add. They gave us a new deep dungeon, like the player base requested. We got new content in the form of Variant/Criterion dungeons. While the Variant/Criterion's didn't fully land, I do not think it was bad content, it just needs some tweaks because the concept is cool imho. We also got two ultimate fights. The thing people seem to forget because it didn't effect them, is the biggest undertaking they did during the patch cycles. One thing they did which I feel will be critical to FFXIV's future success. They went back, and from patch to patch added the Trust system to all the older MSQ dungeons. This will be critical to help players who are new to the game. So yes, this cost us some end game, or stuff like Eureka/Bozja, but for the future of the game was a critical update to old content that was needed, and probably took quite a bit of resources that would of been used for the field op zones.
Btw, xvi had been in development since stormblood, granted it makes sense that only in endwalker did it start causing strain on the dev team since it was the final stretch toward the game going gold
For me there will be no real rebirth/renewal, it's gonna be an extension like any other, without any real new things (the msq gonna be different for sure, but the game will stay the same)
The game is gonna look amazing (graphics update is launching it past other MMOs visual-wise), the jobs that are too busy or not busy enough are getting reworked to better represent what the players want, and it's been presented as a new approach. I think you should try to keep a more optimistic mindset and let them cook
They literally set up conflict with some hidden Neo-Allagans up in the north section of the New World that are comparable and a direct reference to the Zilart in FF11, right? At least what I got from it, everything's a reference to some of the most pivotal early lore from FF11, so if anything it feels like Yoshida's trying to pull 11 players over with Dawntrail with some of the best homages he can pull off in 14 I don't know who would think any expansion arc wouldn't have some heavy plot attached; Shadowbringers literally took people to another world and is revered lol
A boat trip in 14 (complete with Sea Horror lol) from Bastok to Uldah, Windy to Gridania and Sandy to Limsa..connect the cities somehow, someway even if they are just glorified mog houses and I know quite allot of people who would finally let 11 go and move on to 14. If what your saying is true then Yoshi has the right idea.... that familiarity of 11 imbedded into 14 would be epic if only to hear the city music again and see some familiar town npcs... man the sales would be through the roof...
@@kenslizle Dunno if there'll be a direct tie to 11 aside from heavy proxy references to an older society, but it'd be neat if they did pull in some 11 stuff just to make that transition easier for sure
I don't even think of it as a comeback to be honest. I think despite all the doomsayers, Endwalker was still a really good expansion, on par in quality with the expansions that preceded it. They tried a lot of new stuff and while not all of the new stuff was for everyone, a lot of players were still happy with it, and that's what counts imo. The game has a ton of variety and as such content for everyone. You'll never be able to please every single person, but I'd rather see them experiment than just pushing out the exact same types of content every time. I'm still excited for the large scale content though and hope we get more of that going forward.
Thanks Quazii! People should definitely not sleep on Dawntrail. I am 110% confident this is no "filler" expansion by *any* stretch, and I won't be dying on that hill because I'll be dancing in glee instead come Summer. This is going to be a *HUGE* entry in the franchise in many ways beyond the incredible graphical update, to the point where if Dawntrail was releasing the same day as literally any other massive title this year, I'd choose it over all of them in a heartbeat. (even though I am a die-hard Dragon's Dogma fan that has been waiting 12 years😭)
I watch this while doing my daily Island Sanctuary tasks. IS is great and it will make me rich in the future, because no one will care about it in 6.x while I already have 1,7mil crownies and growing.
Remember blue magic also originated from here. So we might get to see more of it or finally be able to have it to dawntrails lvl cap. I would like to see it moŕe outside of just our characters having it.
with all CBU3 has accomplished, i think one of their most remarkable traits isn’t just ‘engaging with and listening to player feedback’, but rather their ability to sift through a metric ton of childish pessimism to find the nuggets of solid feedback given in good faith given the fact that Endwalker AND XVI were exceptional despite the tax, i firmly agree with you on all of your points, because CBU3 clearly has an abundance of ‘secret sauce’
I am so excited!!!! I dont care if DT is gonna be great or what or its just gonna be like other expansions, no changes in the gameplay, same contents etc. This is FFXIV and I will never get tired of playing this game. True avid fans will support this game no matter what like how they supported the game on day 1.
Experiencing the end of the whole journey in endwalker felt truly beautyful and I was like:“yeah no idea how to move on after this.“ so when DT was announcend I thought „well this can only go wrong from here on“ but I think I am quite wrong because I can imagine just being left in shock and totally on the hook by the End of DT probably wishing for 8.0 to come soon. Plus even if I end up not caring about the story, everything else look VeRY pRomISING
As a new Xbox player, I have a long way to go before getting to New Dawn as I'm still working on the beginning storyline. But I'm looking forward to it and I hope the game continues for a good time to come.
Any plot needs stakes, and the problem is there are no clear stakes going into Dawntrail. ARR, HW and SB may be lower stakes than Endwalker, but they still had a war and conflict to move the plot forward. We really have no idea what DT's plot actually is or why we should be invested. This means it's all on DT's MSQ to set up a brand new plot and stakes. And they're teasing some secrets, hopeful it will be good. It just sucks having no idea what's going on with no stakes while we wait.
I'm still trying to figure out how they explain away Thancred's eye since they retconned the blue eye and the prae blue orbs and the whole Seventh Dawn storyline thing.
It's mentioned in npc dialogue from non-cutscenes last I heard, apparently it healed through aether, and he only used the bandana afterwards in stormblood/post-stormblood to look cool for the ladies, according to Y'shtola.
@@pifu7677 yeah I get that. There is a cutscenes where Yshtola ribs him. But it's been altered almost 30 times since it came out that I just don't know anymore 😂
I really appreciate your in-depth look into what is going in. The preference for the attention to detail reminds me of how @ColdFusion delves into topics that they are passionate about.
I feel like the beach episode will be MSQ 91, 92 eventually, and I'm on board with you for the rest. Also, in London Fan Fest we saw a glimpse of a map which seems to mine energy from the planet so I would expect some FF7 inspired mako/ether shenanigans.
Definitely looking forward to dawntrail and mostly on uncovering the secrets behind solution 9! I'm theorizing that one of the ascians created it (there was an ascian symbol on a building in the arcadion picture that was shown), probably in secret from emet selch and team as they haven't mentioned anything about it in the game so far (though i might have missed it). Tbh i don't expect much other than a good story and a good time with my friends. I'm pushing into my 40s and honestly i have irl things i need to worry about so gaming heavily isn't on my priority list like some people who have time to play or are streamers. Even if the content is lacking, i have other games to play too! Either way, looking forward to what's coming!
I think it's definitely a way to market by Yoshi-P to "come back to the good times" but I think it's just a marketing ploy and nothing else. I don't think they'll have THAT big of changes. Gonna be the same patch cycle etc... but gotta love them bringing in fresh eyes.
@@maerto Something they should do continously instead of waiting 10 years. The graphical improvements are minimal at best and we're still stuck with FXAA and no kind of upscaling.
I've played FFXIV for a while, I believe since Heavensward, but stepped away for a while and came back. Endwalker was the first expansion I played at end cap, and I really see nothing wrong with it. Endwalker was a phenomenal expansion, something I didn't think stood a chance compared to Shadowbringers, but was nearly equal and sometime superior in many ways. I have a TON of stuff to do and haven't run out... Not sure what all the fuss was about Endwalker's endgame... Honestly I have no idea how Dawntrail can even come close to the last two expansions.
the only answer to the question of "when is a good time to start FFXIV?" is "as soon as humanly possible" because there's just so much game and it ain't getting any smaller. :')
Im always feeling weird for casting spells in Nier raids, now we get entire modern City. How will it fit into "Fantasy" perspective? It doesnt mean there couldnt be combination of both, many FF titles had it, but it was always compromise(steam punk, fantasy punk). My point is, im curious how they going combine those styles to not make it feel like throwing rocks at the tank.
In ff xiv's case I would prefer if it didn't limit itself to one style. I feel this game could be an exception to that rule, especially when this game has already blended many styles. Especially considering this game has been out 10+ years, it could use some variety. I want to see the world evolve and expand, as imo thats the best part of a Fantasy game, it doesn't have to limit itself.
To be fair, FFXIV has always used a combination of fantasy, steam-punk, modern and futuristic and even alien. You can see this due to Final Fantasy as a series using all of these genres through it's various games which FFXIV draws it's inspiration from.
@@InukipachukiYea, but they stay somewhat true to fantasy style, therefore fantasy punk. Combination of super modern and traditional fantasy always feel like out of place. Burning Garleans with Fire feels...allright...but burning robots not so much.
I’m extremely excited for Dawntrail, I have no expectations for story or anything I’m just interested to see where a new story takes us and what new content we get. I definitely think we got a bit of a XVI tax but also a setting up the next 10 years tax. With the end of the 10 year arc it makes sense that they are thinking what can we do to improve the game for the long run. With them updating early content and making it more solo friendly to maybe streamline it a bit more to graphics updates and a second dye option and other QOL stuff. It’s felt like a long time waiting for Dawntrail but I’m excited for the future of this game.
Even before Solution 9's reveal, I was expecting something to happen in the story that throws everything off... now that we know of Solution 9, and the fact that they were hiding a lot of things when they showed us what it looked like in game... makes me wonder just what that area implies, and what are they hiding...
What if Solution 9 has absolutely no link to the past story line. It could be something completely separate, like a new Star's civilisation discovered via interstellar travel. We have two potentially limitless avenues for new expansions, obviously the Reflections sure but also the universe as it opened up to us via the Ragnarok & Ultima Thule. If they really wanted to break from the past they could completely depart from Eitherys (or branch and do both). Build a space dock on the moon and begin building a fleet of Ragnaroks. Space opera, interstellar war ...
Quazii, I doubt you'll ever see this comment, BUT, I wanted to say THANK YOU for all of your dedication, love and amazing perspective on this game and all you do for multiple game communities! I've been following you for years on WoW. You taught me how to play Demon Hunter tank and really helped me with your tanking and dungeon guides. Your recent very real and heartfelt "behind the scenes" videos both here and WoW have made me think about what these games mean to so many and my guildmates and I have discussed your vids at length. Do you have plans for tanking guides in FFXIV as you do for WoW or will that be spreading yourself too thin? Thank you, Sir!
@@QuaziiFFXIV You are such a true force for good for the gaming community, regardless of game. It's so nice to see you're getting the well deserved recognition of 100k ( I know it was on WoW, but still. ) Thank you for all do.
You know how you fix Island Sanctuary? You let players build their own house and also be able to reposition mammets so you can completely ignore them. The private island don't feel so private when I have a bunch of robots on my property.
Nah. The primary complaint about Island Sanctuary was that it felt like a crappy time gated mobile game. It was never supposed to be a replacement for housing. The problem was that everything revolved around the workshop and there wasn't really anything to do once you'd set it up for the week. You fix island sanctuary by having it use the gathering and crafting systems that already exist within the game. No level requirements, so you can play the content even if you didn't have them levelled yet, and you could even level them up by crafting and gathering in island sanctuary.
It would be cool if they added Free Company instances of Island Sanctuary. It would give FC's that can't get a house a group gathering spot which they can decorate. Personally, I like Island Sanctuary, but agree that the automated nature of it means that the fun doesn't last long. I'm still setting up my workshop most weeks just to get materia though. It's an easy way to get a lot of it.
I am still baffled that they didn't use the existing crafting and gathering system for the island sanctuary, the sanctuary could have been relevant for many expansions into the future if you could level your crafting and gathering there.@@mosley3485
^ actually yeah! Even better ideas I.S. did feel useful in terms of crafting... So further lean into that. Still think I should be able to build a private island home without mammets staring at me though... they give me "The Sharliyan government is spying on me" vibes.
@@DICEBOY22 I wish the points of interest that we built were for people to use instead of mammets, and they had more interactions. Why does the roller coaster not work?!? What a missed opportunity. The playground you build for the Fairy tribal quests is more fun. I really enjoyed the Tataru quests where she brought guests to the island, and I wish we could have NPC guests all the time, and the island was more of a resort that we built. For instance we could have a restaurant where we craft food recipes weekly for the restaurant. Or we could construct a mini water playground on the beach for NPCs to play on. How fun would it be if Alpha and Omega showed up? Or any of the NPCs that we don't see much anymore? They did a lot of work for Island Sanctuary, and I hope they keep adding features to it so it can be long term content.
I dunno man, the only detail Endwalker drew me into was how much talking took place in the pre-credits section, and 80% of it felt like pointless conjecture, as it just repeats a lot of things that were already explained.
Regarding the mystery of Solution 9, by logical inference, most veterans already know its role in the gameplay: It's going to be the endgame hub, like Eulmore or Radz-at-Han. It's where you will eventually go for your tome, raid and scrip materials and gear. This is known because on the FFXIV youtube channel, showcase videos for zones are either titled with "New Area" or "New Town". Tuliyollal and Solution 9 have the "New Town" label. This confirms they are hub areas and it's a given that Tuliyollal is the starting hub due to it being featured so much in the trailer. That leaves the only other option which is for Solution 9 to be the endgame hub. So ultimately it means Solution 9 while looking really exotic and out of place, is likely going to be treated as "just another zone" like Mare Lamentorum. It's not a twist or a surprise because those cases would not even have any showcase videos on TH-cam at all to avoid massive spoilers (eg. Elpis). Of course there is still the question of why is it so high-tech but the FFXIV world already has high-tech and sci fi thanks to magitek and the allagans so it's not even all that much of a stretch that another civilisation could also be high-tech, the writers just have to invent some lore to explain it.
I thought Zidane's fighting style was more what inspired the Rouge/Ninja class? They both use daggers and similar fighting style. Yeah there will definitely not be a huge catalclysmic event in Dawntrail until the last expansion of this new arc.
All the conspiracies about zombie-waves of toxic casuals or Naoki Yoshida being malicious through laziness or evil, they've been tiring. Homie + all of CBU3 was just multitasking, after having slowly written/developed everything in Endwalker over *10 years*. It's been really healthy for the game for such tinfoil hat players to *move on* to other games (and then embarrassingly crawl back after they had left in a fit, before)
I personally liked Endwalker as a person who only jumps on FF14 here and there. I started back during shadowlands and I found the FF4 theme for FF14 amazing and the story great. I think people have gone crazy at this point tbh.
I am so looking forward to Dawntrail! When I first saw Solution 9, I immediately thought of Zanarkand (A city dead for a thousand years) from FFX! I know in my heart that the story will be EPIC! No story from any game or book I have ever read hit me in my soul like Shadowbringers & Endwalker did! The complete story from start to finish was awesome! I am stoked for a new story arc!
Westerners don't understand how Japanese storytelling works and that Final Fantasy XIV's story follows a structure pretty much ubiquitous to their writing (it's so common, it's even used in Japanese adverts) called Kishotenketsu. Basically, it's a four-act story structure where the first two acts (ki and sho) are an introduction to the setting and characters, followed by more of a deep dive into those settings and characters as the plot progresses, but then the real story actually begins in the third act (ten) with a massive shift that completely recontexualises the entire story. Then the final act is a resolution and conclusion in the aftermath of the shift. Every Final Fantasy XIV storyline follows this structure (in A Realm Reborn, the shift happens when Gaius uses the Ultima Weapon on Garuda, Titan and Ifrit; in Heavensward, The Vault is the shift; in Stormblood, the introduction of the Resonant is the big shift in the story; in Shadowbringers, it happens quite late with the post-Innocence fight; and in Endwalker, it's Elpis) so anyone judging Dawntrail's story from first appearances has no understanding of how Japanese storytelling works. It even holds true I think for every Final Fantasy game story. Somewhere around the level 97-mark, expect a massive shift that completely recontextualises the story and reveals what it is truly about. So far all we know is the race to find the "Golden City" (probably Solution 9), something to do with Valigarmanda, and that one of the contestants mustn't win because they want to invade the Three Great Continents now the Garlean Empire has fallen - these will be our first two acts, and whatever will be in Act 3, they probably will not reveal (or if they do, it will be like how they had a Meteion line in the Endwalker Launch Trailer, as well as out-of-context clips of Ultima Thule and The Dead Ends where we don't know what's happening, or how in the Shadowbringers launch trailer they showed clips of Amaurot). We'll probably find the Golden City by Level 95 or 96 at the latest. The Launch trailer is always the thing to wait for, and especially pay attention to anything seemingly small or random that seem inexplicable without context because chances are they're the most important things (and not the big, shocking reveals).
I think a lot of people missed, or maybe forgot, that we didnt have more to the relic system not because of constraints from FF16, but because they wanted more resources going towards Dawntrail. When initially announcing that it was going to be tied to Hildabrand quests and that it would be more laid back and closer to Heavensward relics, he cited the reason as needing more of that devtime towards Dawntrail specifically. Probably also why it was the perfect time to introduce Zero, and the Void story, able to reuse simple types of assets and mobs and laying the foundation of future stories and utilizing that extra dev time towards Dawntrail again. It's the next era in FFXIV's life, and it's definitely going to go crazy.
At this point, it's not too farfetched to think the new expansion is not what it appears to be. Back in Shadowbringer launch, Yoshi P downplayed the expansion to be a comprobable experience to other singleplayer RPG. But in reality, it far exceeded a lot of people's expectations when it came to the storytelling. Some even claiming it's the best they experienced. I've heard that the writers of Sorrow of Werlyt was involved in the new expansion. If true, we have something significant here.
I don't know what people mean by filler? I think it will be the start of a new story arc even if the story only spans another 1 or 2 expansions. I don't think it will be an ARR type of story though as much as maybe a ShB.
I think the first half will be and should be laid back and chill, my guess is the plot will get more serious and start teasing the new storyline in the back half. I hope it will be like this myself, just having some time to have fun with the characters sounds enjoyable but not really necessary for a whole expansion.
I do not think it will be like a beach episode, I just desperately want our characters to finally get a goddamned break. I know we’re not really going to get one, but I can dream.
As much as i wish for many things to be improved like character creation variety, past alliance raid gear being dyeable and A SORT BUTTON FOR FC CHESTS. I fully trust anything this man promises
🤔 intersting I thought after zodiark and hydaelyn and ascians ark it’s done some ppl says dawntrail a prologue the thing they do after ending 😅 Thank you for information and have good days 👍🍻
Actually i can see where this is going when i saw solution 9. Anybody who has played ff9 would know of "Terra". We're going there. Basically, we're going to fight an evil character, we found out how they're actually genome created by someone, we go to the manufacturer, and its solution 9, where we find a lot of zidanes and kujas. We just have no idea who the "Garland" is.
I think Dawntrail and the next expansion will probably have their own plotlines and subtley hint at an overarching new story until there's a big reveal later. I say this because going off what Emet Selch said, we'll be possibly going to Meracydia later and from everything we know about that place I can't see how it'd connect to anything in the Golden Cities.
I think I’ve played FFXIV long enough to predict that Dawn Trail will cause the same issues as the other previous expansions. Mass returns of players who took a break. Many people have their reasons for not currently playing. We all know someone who says.. they’re taking a break. Being burnt out. There’s no content. Nothing for them to do. Playing other games at the moment. I saw the same reasons post-Shadowbringers. Only to see massive waiting queues once Endwalker was released. So, I’m in the opinion that FFXIV is doing just fine at the moment. Hell, there’s still a queue to log in my world everyday.
The one thing I hope for dawntrail is more chances to characterize our Warrior of Light. I want our Warriors of light to be more expressive. The smile or 2 and the silence is cute/cool and all, but we have a strange presence in high action cutscenes. I play as a lalafell so i do understand the work needed to make cutscenes look right. But just a few cutscenes where I feel like i have real input would make me happy That's probably why the fist fight against Zeno's felt so strong. Because we had a much stronger presence in the cutscene.
FF16 is incredible! like a movie. Dawntrail should be a new start for new players, where they dont have to play all the previous expansions, they can start right on dawntrail
We started as an adventurer, and ended up literally traveling worlds, different realms, dying, coming back, killing numerous gods, defeating an immortal race, etc. After the ending to current storyline, it's kinda hard to just immediately live up to that now. So I feel like this is gonna bring us back to the older style. It's just a new adventure. I feel like it'll be more focused and down to earth. Kinda like arr and heavensward. After killing the literal gods of the world and realm, and averting the apocalypse for like the 10th time, what do you do? Gotta start somewhere lol. I'm worried about how character progression is gonna go. With classes now coming in so close to the caps, the sense of progression is just kinda gone. I'm wondering if we might not actually be building up to the next MMO tbh.
Im really hoping Dawntrail does more for the endgame than Endwalker. I missed Eureka like things to do because it really brought the community together. Gave us a reason to show off mounts and work together with the whole community to get a number of things done.
I'm looking forward to DawnTrail being a fun new adventure with new characters, high-enough stakes to keep my interest, and a plot that hopefully isn't as soul-crushing as Shadowbringers and Endwalker's darkest moments were
To be honest, I am perfectly fine with Dawntrail being a beach episode gone horribly wrong XD For real though, having a chill expansion sounds like a breath of fresh air.
Just because the biggest bads we've faced are gone, that doesn't mean we can never face a greater challenge than them. From the very beginning we've been shown that world ending threats can rise from pretty much anywhere. The sky's the limit with Primals. Any one of them can become a world ender if their following grows enough. Creations can far surpass the power and intentions of their creators as with the Endsinger. Our own characters have grown from humble beginnings to facing off against gods. There's no reason others can't do the same and choose to target the WoL.
I personally did not feel this was about to be a 'filler beach episode' and the folks I talk with seem to be in the same boat (pun intended). I really don't know if the majority even felt that it was going to be this. I think the issue is that a lot of folks like to rush through content (gotta be first, have the first new stuff etc mentality) and then complain when there is nothing to do. It's a huge reason I take my time as much as possible. I feel like when I'm in the mood there is ALWAYS something for me to do on my main char still (or alts) and when I'm not in the mood, I play something else.
Idk. I personally loved all of Endwalker and the patches. My favorite expansion so far. That said, I don't think anyone believes Dawntrail will be a "filler" expasnion. It's the start of a new story.
im excited for DT i enjoyed the ascion story line and EW was a good ending for that and what i really liked was that the wasnt any lingering parts to EW once did the final fight thats it with post EW being a short story with some extra characters. the new story we are gonna get that isnt about the world/universe ending so can make enemies more enjoyable and give them more of a unique feel with their own motives and goals.
I viewed this trailer as an emphasis of exploration to exotic lands rather than just a "beach episode." Feels like we're going to get out and see all those places whose names have popped up in conversation, much like Radz-at-Han used to be before Endwalker. And I don't believe the atmosphere is going to be "worldwide vacation" the whole time.
I am really hoping players have access to allocating their own points to stats again and more builds with different pieces of armor being available not just one or two different sets to pick and pull from.
Every trailer has usually been a tease of what will happen during the x0-x5 lvl zones. So I'mma call that things will escalate, i mean really get out of hand fast at around lvl 96-97 msq.
Personally I'm hoping for this to feel like Heavensward: a focused expansion where you get to know one region and its people very intimately.
Shadowbringers too. I feel very special ways about Ishgard and Norvrandt.
I think my problem with Heavensward is that that doesn't actually happen. The dragon plot is so dominant that the class conflict feels minor, and for all this place being about Halone worship is emphasized, we never learn anything about Halone or that faith. People hate on Stormblood but it does a much better job at world building, so I hope for a HW format with SB quality world building.
@@burtwonkCrystarium (gosh I hope that’s what it was actually called) is still my fav city
I think Tural is too big and diversified for that, but we can hope to a Shadowbringer feel, with a new place to explore and many new groups and cultures and a feel of being in a new world. Tho I'd like it if they focus on parts of Tural and give us a more focused thing yes.
They will surely tie it with other expansions, particularly the Solution 9 part.
I want to say they possibly may be treating it as an ARR type of refresh not a reboot of sorts, but more of getting back down to that feel of being smaller again essentially being an adventurer again.
my gf just started ff14 and watching her play ARR I'm kind of envious of the easy going adventurer vibe, I'm definitely up for it to return.
Exactly. It took time to build up to fighting Zodiark and the Endsinger; We need to do that again. If we stay up at the Endwalker level, it'll just feel boring.
I hope to, that it would be more in the direction of ARR.
After whe traveled to the end of the universe and have probally beaten most of the ancient power houses, and saved multiple worlds, is it time to go back for a smaller scale story. The world would need time to create new dangerous things. Or, they simply are hided in the other continents.
I even hoped, that whe would meet a new group in the next expantion, away of the scions. And, that the new expantion could be a check point for new players, to start allready there, instant of has the need to play tought all earlier storys (that the chara is than a new person, similary to 1.0-2.0, for new player). And, that the scions would maybe only have some guest appearance.
The game of thrones setting is ok. And, it has the chance, to set up new strings for the next arc (most expantion from arr to stormblood mostly setted up strings, who than came to a end in shadowbringer and endwalker).
Personally I wish they woulda just made a new mmorpg
Based on some of the stuff they’ve shown off at fan fest, I feel like it’s going to be a lot more than that. It’ll probably start that way, but it’s likely gonna get pretty out there by the end. Hell, they showed off a new player hub that looks like a city from 1000 years in the future and a giant death robot called Eliminator.
I'm convinced Dawntrail will be like A Realm Reborn 2. It'll have it's own base story, but will primarily be setting us up for the next multi-expansion story arc.
Same
I was treating Dawntrail very much like a nice summer vacation kind of experience--until I saw Solution 9. Solution 9 completely threw me for a loop. I would have never even imagined something like that in the DT I had built up in my mind pre-JP fanfest, and I love it.
whats solution 9? edit: ok googled it, its crystarium but even more future, def caught me off guard
Yeah, I loved that they only showed very predictable locations up until that reveal. Really succeeded at demonstrating that there are surprises to be found in DT.
I was feeling Dawtrail was feeling abit like in between expansion until I saw Solution 9. I'm a huge cyberpunk fan and loved FFX world so futuristic twist was amazing and now I'm intrigued and hyped for Dawntrail proper.
Well, it's obvious to anyone that it's not going to be a "beach episode", but it is a new beginning. Things need to ramp up again.
We didn't go from ARR and Gaius to suddenly defeating Zodiark and the Endsinger.
I don't care what people say. I LOVE the Island Sanctuary system. My main prefers to sleep there in her off duty time because she loves the solitude, peace & quiet and all her island friends she managed to tame. She considers it a proper routine to give her animals tender loving care and tend to her crops. She's an old war veteran and some peace is a rarity and welcome so I love the Island Sanctuary system, it fits her like a glove.🥰🥰🥰
Dude, I still keep up with my island. I love having an instanced home-away-from-home that's separate from housing. I go there just to listen to music and chill, sometimes.
@@anteprs7908 amazon shipping > bucket > rope
@@anteprs7908No, it's because it becomes a spreadsheet simulator and most people won't bother touching it. There's a reason they're doing different lifestyle content after the abysmal reception on release. People actually thinking they would get something even close to Animal crossing or that Criterion would be equal or even better than the M+ system from World of warcraft.
Great that you like roleplaying, but some of us would like to have actual content instead of a spreadsheet.
@@GoatOfWar This ngl
I been saying this for ages....trust the devs. yoship was distracted with other projects ofc it will hurt ffxiv. when people started crying "the game is going downhill!!!!" I couldn't stop rolling my eyes. this community never learns do they? the devs always deliver.
To be honest I feel there's so much edgy bitterness from gamers. They forget so much in the way of positives and just want to complain (fueled by recency bias). FF14 isn't perfect, there are no perfect games and there are bits here and there I am disgruntled over. However, it has delivered me more excellent gaming and moments than any other MMO ever. I trust CBU3 because they just have a track record of pleasing me.
Tbh beeing a MMO Player is atm not really funny.. because most of the time is just "Yeah WoW Retail is dead, classic is also dead.. FF14 is dead.. GW2 is dead.. ESO is dead.. everything is shit now!"
At some point i think "Maybe MMO is not anymore that kind of games you enjoy?" Some kind of bitterness like People that think they can play the same game until the end of their life and now pissed because it dont feel the same anymore, you cant stop time and everything changes even yourself as a person.
They need to shake things up a bit. Especially with the predictability of gear/raids
What about someone, who plays for years and had unbound love for the game, just for recent time to take away that love? I have 15k hours, I love FF14 and I hate FF14 atm. This game gave me a lot, and I know it can be better, but it's not, it's going down, and I hate to see it.
@@Arnveldwell speak yourself then, because 14 is incredible right now. It isn't going downhill at all.
@@JimmymatthewbMaybe for new players, for veterans it's dead atm.
I mean they set it up perfectly to follow an end of a era of craziness. Fighting end of the world threats with a new hype each expansion for a decade. Now they finally get a break from it and become adventurers who explore the vastness of not only their world, but the other stars reflections. I am so excited for new things to explore (and EXCAVATE) and the sights we will see without wondering if someone is gonna die. Maybe in 9 years they can tug at that again.
Love your content as always. We'll always be here for you when you get back.
Glorious thumbnail, my friend. Ya gotta grow out that flow now!
I look forward to Estha--Solution 9 blowing us away. I LOVE futuristic elements in FF! A mix of Terra, Esther and maaaaybe a pre-Allag civilization (the Lightning Calamity proceeded the Allag's Earth Calamity)
I'm so glad you took the time you needed to come back fresh! I've missed your analysis on FFXIV, and it's so nice to hear your ideas and speculations on what's to come.
Not to mention, while we've been giving a pretty good schooling on what the aether is, we haven't explored Dynamis or the Soul much. I expect, given that people have translated some of the signs in Solution 9, we'll be taking a deeper look into soul stuff.
my big question is, where did solution 9 come from, and why didn't any of the ascians breath a word about it?
love your content btw (: thanks for stopping by
It's very much possible, that we find a splinter of Allag surviving, or maybe some connection to other worlds. At this point, we don't know nearly enough. The story will ever keep growing
My theory is that Solution Nine is a city/ark for people of one of the rejoined shards/survivors of a calamity. If it's from another shard, my overall idea for the next big arc is an inter-Shard War, like Golbez on a wider scale.
@@midnightbloomofeorzea7182 could work. Could even cause some chaos as we, just to throw something out there, help an ascian save a peaceful and prosperous nation they built from attack. After all, the seat of nurturing and healing is still out there. A tour of the remaining shards as we push back the void, and look for a way to make good on our promises. To Zero, Cylva, Unukalhai. Maybe we face again the monsters of mach and the world of darkness we sent back where they belonged, but did not kill.
Its likely Pre-Allagan and a result of the civilizations around during the 2nd Umbral Calamity which was the Calamity of Levin (Lightning). It is said that the 2nd umbral Calamity is when civilizations fell from the heavens and dispersed to all corners of the planet. The technology caused great polution and the civilizations went underground. very very similar to what we see from the picture of Heritage Found and Im guessing that Solution 9 is a simulated city recapturing what the 2nd Civilization was.
I'm glad you're making these again, thanks for the video!
I normally skip around through most poeple's videos just to get the info, but I've always enjoyed your vibe in videos (both your FF content and your WoW content) and find myself watching through. You seem like a really down to Earth guy. glad to see you still grinding and succeeding, Quazii! Also, you do a good job of giving nuance and detail without it feeling like you're dragging the video on. Out of curiosity, how much of your videos do you script and how much do you just use bullet points and then free form it?
I have a theory about why it's Solution 9.
solution 1-7 were the cataclysms.
Solution 8 was the 1st.
So Solution 9 is the 9th Ascian attempted way to address the problem, the rejoining. We'll have to wait and see.
I like the idea. Minor nitpick, the 1st would probably be solution 2, with only the void coming before it. Solution 9 would be unfinished, leaving the 7th umbral being the 10th attempt at rejoining.
Overall I liked EW. The 6.0 was amazing content, and really 6.1-6.4 was solid. There are a few things people are missing. Yes, XVI might of caused some of the issues, but let's not forget the content they did add. They gave us a new deep dungeon, like the player base requested. We got new content in the form of Variant/Criterion dungeons. While the Variant/Criterion's didn't fully land, I do not think it was bad content, it just needs some tweaks because the concept is cool imho. We also got two ultimate fights.
The thing people seem to forget because it didn't effect them, is the biggest undertaking they did during the patch cycles. One thing they did which I feel will be critical to FFXIV's future success. They went back, and from patch to patch added the Trust system to all the older MSQ dungeons. This will be critical to help players who are new to the game. So yes, this cost us some end game, or stuff like Eureka/Bozja, but for the future of the game was a critical update to old content that was needed, and probably took quite a bit of resources that would of been used for the field op zones.
Btw, xvi had been in development since stormblood, granted it makes sense that only in endwalker did it start causing strain on the dev team since it was the final stretch toward the game going gold
For me there will be no real rebirth/renewal, it's gonna be an extension like any other, without any real new things (the msq gonna be different for sure, but the game will stay the same)
The game is gonna look amazing (graphics update is launching it past other MMOs visual-wise), the jobs that are too busy or not busy enough are getting reworked to better represent what the players want, and it's been presented as a new approach. I think you should try to keep a more optimistic mindset and let them cook
They literally set up conflict with some hidden Neo-Allagans up in the north section of the New World that are comparable and a direct reference to the Zilart in FF11, right? At least what I got from it, everything's a reference to some of the most pivotal early lore from FF11, so if anything it feels like Yoshida's trying to pull 11 players over with Dawntrail with some of the best homages he can pull off in 14
I don't know who would think any expansion arc wouldn't have some heavy plot attached; Shadowbringers literally took people to another world and is revered lol
A boat trip in 14 (complete with Sea Horror lol) from Bastok to Uldah, Windy to Gridania and Sandy to Limsa..connect the cities somehow, someway even if they are just glorified mog houses and I know quite allot of people who would finally let 11 go and move on to 14. If what your saying is true then Yoshi has the right idea.... that familiarity of 11 imbedded into 14 would be epic if only to hear the city music again and see some familiar town npcs... man the sales would be through the roof...
@@kenslizle Dunno if there'll be a direct tie to 11 aside from heavy proxy references to an older society, but it'd be neat if they did pull in some 11 stuff just to make that transition easier for sure
@@RrowdyBeast mine was more of wishful thinking, heres to hoping FF 14 Devs read youtube comments lol
happy your back,
welcome back Quazii
I don't even think of it as a comeback to be honest. I think despite all the doomsayers, Endwalker was still a really good expansion, on par in quality with the expansions that preceded it. They tried a lot of new stuff and while not all of the new stuff was for everyone, a lot of players were still happy with it, and that's what counts imo. The game has a ton of variety and as such content for everyone. You'll never be able to please every single person, but I'd rather see them experiment than just pushing out the exact same types of content every time. I'm still excited for the large scale content though and hope we get more of that going forward.
Thanks Quazii! People should definitely not sleep on Dawntrail. I am 110% confident this is no "filler" expansion by *any* stretch, and I won't be dying on that hill because I'll be dancing in glee instead come Summer. This is going to be a *HUGE* entry in the franchise in many ways beyond the incredible graphical update, to the point where if Dawntrail was releasing the same day as literally any other massive title this year, I'd choose it over all of them in a heartbeat. (even though I am a die-hard Dragon's Dogma fan that has been waiting 12 years😭)
A good point, if solution nine is eulmore, what's Dawntrail's Tempest?
So glad you’re back! Great video
im excited to play with my new friends all being on an equal playfield in terms of understanding the story. It's going to be so much fun
I watch this while doing my daily Island Sanctuary tasks.
IS is great and it will make me rich in the future, because no one will care about it in 6.x while I already have 1,7mil crownies and growing.
What can you even sell from IS thats worth buying tho
Remember blue magic also originated from here. So we might get to see more of it or finally be able to have it to dawntrails lvl cap. I would like to see it moŕe outside of just our characters having it.
It would be nice to know when do spoilers end as well, great content so far, thanks
with all CBU3 has accomplished, i think one of their most remarkable traits isn’t just ‘engaging with and listening to player feedback’, but rather their ability to sift through a metric ton of childish pessimism to find the nuggets of solid feedback given in good faith
given the fact that Endwalker AND XVI were exceptional despite the tax, i firmly agree with you on all of your points, because CBU3 clearly has an abundance of ‘secret sauce’
I am so excited!!!! I dont care if DT is gonna be great or what or its just gonna be like other expansions, no changes in the gameplay, same contents etc. This is FFXIV and I will never get tired of playing this game. True avid fans will support this game no matter what like how they supported the game on day 1.
That music in the back takes me back, what is the name of that track?
Experiencing the end of the whole journey in endwalker felt truly beautyful and I was like:“yeah no idea how to move on after this.“ so when DT was announcend I thought „well this can only go wrong from here on“ but I think I am quite wrong because I can imagine just being left in shock and totally on the hook by the End of DT probably wishing for 8.0 to come soon. Plus even if I end up not caring about the story, everything else look VeRY pRomISING
Gutted at the min, my PC broke and can't jump on😢 What actual special features have been announced for this expansion? Can I set sail and be a pirate?
As a new Xbox player, I have a long way to go before getting to New Dawn as I'm still working on the beginning storyline. But I'm looking forward to it and I hope the game continues for a good time to come.
Any plot needs stakes, and the problem is there are no clear stakes going into Dawntrail. ARR, HW and SB may be lower stakes than Endwalker, but they still had a war and conflict to move the plot forward.
We really have no idea what DT's plot actually is or why we should be invested. This means it's all on DT's MSQ to set up a brand new plot and stakes. And they're teasing some secrets, hopeful it will be good.
It just sucks having no idea what's going on with no stakes while we wait.
I'm still trying to figure out how they explain away Thancred's eye since they retconned the blue eye and the prae blue orbs and the whole Seventh Dawn storyline thing.
It's mentioned in npc dialogue from non-cutscenes last I heard, apparently it healed through aether, and he only used the bandana afterwards in stormblood/post-stormblood to look cool for the ladies, according to Y'shtola.
@@pifu7677 yeah I get that. There is a cutscenes where Yshtola ribs him. But it's been altered almost 30 times since it came out that I just don't know anymore 😂
Has anyone figured out what's reflected in Y'shtola's pantychipmunk's eye yet?
GRIDANIA SERPENT CAPTAIN HERE. "Okami Hatake"
CAN'T WAIT! STILL FINISHING UP ENDWALKER. THAT OST IN THE BACKGROUND.. MAN. GREAT VID BRO.
I really appreciate your in-depth look into what is going in. The preference for the attention to detail reminds me of how @ColdFusion delves into topics that they are passionate about.
I feel like the beach episode will be MSQ 91, 92 eventually, and I'm on board with you for the rest. Also, in London Fan Fest we saw a glimpse of a map which seems to mine energy from the planet so I would expect some FF7 inspired mako/ether shenanigans.
Definitely looking forward to dawntrail and mostly on uncovering the secrets behind solution 9! I'm theorizing that one of the ascians created it (there was an ascian symbol on a building in the arcadion picture that was shown), probably in secret from emet selch and team as they haven't mentioned anything about it in the game so far (though i might have missed it). Tbh i don't expect much other than a good story and a good time with my friends. I'm pushing into my 40s and honestly i have irl things i need to worry about so gaming heavily isn't on my priority list like some people who have time to play or are streamers. Even if the content is lacking, i have other games to play too! Either way, looking forward to what's coming!
Meteor: My friends, we shall all sail west unto the trails of dawn... Where I shall wear a cloak concealing my new job... The weapon master.
I think it's definitely a way to market by Yoshi-P to "come back to the good times" but I think it's just a marketing ploy and nothing else. I don't think they'll have THAT big of changes. Gonna be the same patch cycle etc... but gotta love them bringing in fresh eyes.
I mean if nothing else there will be graphic improvements.
@@maerto Something they should do continously instead of waiting 10 years. The graphical improvements are minimal at best and we're still stuck with FXAA and no kind of upscaling.
I've played FFXIV for a while, I believe since Heavensward, but stepped away for a while and came back. Endwalker was the first expansion I played at end cap, and I really see nothing wrong with it. Endwalker was a phenomenal expansion, something I didn't think stood a chance compared to Shadowbringers, but was nearly equal and sometime superior in many ways. I have a TON of stuff to do and haven't run out... Not sure what all the fuss was about Endwalker's endgame... Honestly I have no idea how Dawntrail can even come close to the last two expansions.
"Slight change of plans, m'lord. We're going to the moon!"
So do you think people compare this expansion to wows new one? Seeing as this is a new saga just like wow coming up with?
Ive not played FFXIV before, would you say this is a good time to start from scratch??
the only answer to the question of "when is a good time to start FFXIV?" is "as soon as humanly possible" because there's just so much game and it ain't getting any smaller. :')
Im always feeling weird for casting spells in Nier raids, now we get entire modern City. How will it fit into "Fantasy" perspective? It doesnt mean there couldnt be combination of both, many FF titles had it, but it was always compromise(steam punk, fantasy punk). My point is, im curious how they going combine those styles to not make it feel like throwing rocks at the tank.
In ff xiv's case I would prefer if it didn't limit itself to one style. I feel this game could be an exception to that rule, especially when this game has already blended many styles. Especially considering this game has been out 10+ years, it could use some variety. I want to see the world evolve and expand, as imo thats the best part of a Fantasy game, it doesn't have to limit itself.
To be fair, FFXIV has always used a combination of fantasy, steam-punk, modern and futuristic and even alien. You can see this due to Final Fantasy as a series using all of these genres through it's various games which FFXIV draws it's inspiration from.
@@InukipachukiYea, but they stay somewhat true to fantasy style, therefore fantasy punk. Combination of super modern and traditional fantasy always feel like out of place.
Burning Garleans with Fire feels...allright...but burning robots not so much.
The Neir raids were virtual anyway, technically you were 'hacking' with your spells, melee, and ranged attacks.
I’m extremely excited for Dawntrail, I have no expectations for story or anything I’m just interested to see where a new story takes us and what new content we get. I definitely think we got a bit of a XVI tax but also a setting up the next 10 years tax. With the end of the 10 year arc it makes sense that they are thinking what can we do to improve the game for the long run. With them updating early content and making it more solo friendly to maybe streamline it a bit more to graphics updates and a second dye option and other QOL stuff. It’s felt like a long time waiting for Dawntrail but I’m excited for the future of this game.
Even before Solution 9's reveal, I was expecting something to happen in the story that throws everything off... now that we know of Solution 9, and the fact that they were hiding a lot of things when they showed us what it looked like in game... makes me wonder just what that area implies, and what are they hiding...
What if Solution 9 has absolutely no link to the past story line. It could be something completely separate, like a new Star's civilisation discovered via interstellar travel. We have two potentially limitless avenues for new expansions, obviously the Reflections sure but also the universe as it opened up to us via the Ragnarok & Ultima Thule. If they really wanted to break from the past they could completely depart from Eitherys (or branch and do both). Build a space dock on the moon and begin building a fleet of Ragnaroks. Space opera, interstellar war ...
I am still enjoying Island Sanctuary. I have 400,000 blue cowies now and 80,000 green ones. The dyes sell for decent gill.
It’s almost a certainty that the city of Gold being referenced is this futuristic fancy city
Quazii, I doubt you'll ever see this comment, BUT, I wanted to say THANK YOU for all of your dedication, love and amazing perspective on this game and all you do for multiple game communities! I've been following you for years on WoW. You taught me how to play Demon Hunter tank and really helped me with your tanking and dungeon guides. Your recent very real and heartfelt "behind the scenes" videos both here and WoW have made me think about what these games mean to so many and my guildmates and I have discussed your vids at length.
Do you have plans for tanking guides in FFXIV as you do for WoW or will that be spreading yourself too thin?
Thank you, Sir!
i do see the comments! every single of of them (: I read them all actually haha
@@QuaziiFFXIV You are such a true force for good for the gaming community, regardless of game. It's so nice to see you're getting the well deserved recognition of 100k ( I know it was on WoW, but still. ) Thank you for all do.
You know how you fix Island Sanctuary?
You let players build their own house and also be able to reposition mammets so you can completely ignore them.
The private island don't feel so private when I have a bunch of robots on my property.
Nah. The primary complaint about Island Sanctuary was that it felt like a crappy time gated mobile game. It was never supposed to be a replacement for housing.
The problem was that everything revolved around the workshop and there wasn't really anything to do once you'd set it up for the week.
You fix island sanctuary by having it use the gathering and crafting systems that already exist within the game. No level requirements, so you can play the content even if you didn't have them levelled yet, and you could even level them up by crafting and gathering in island sanctuary.
It would be cool if they added Free Company instances of Island Sanctuary. It would give FC's that can't get a house a group gathering spot which they can decorate. Personally, I like Island Sanctuary, but agree that the automated nature of it means that the fun doesn't last long. I'm still setting up my workshop most weeks just to get materia though. It's an easy way to get a lot of it.
I am still baffled that they didn't use the existing crafting and gathering system for the island sanctuary, the sanctuary could have been relevant for many expansions into the future if you could level your crafting and gathering there.@@mosley3485
^ actually yeah! Even better ideas I.S. did feel useful in terms of crafting... So further lean into that.
Still think I should be able to build a private island home without mammets staring at me though... they give me "The Sharliyan government is spying on me" vibes.
@@DICEBOY22 I wish the points of interest that we built were for people to use instead of mammets, and they had more interactions. Why does the roller coaster not work?!? What a missed opportunity. The playground you build for the Fairy tribal quests is more fun. I really enjoyed the Tataru quests where she brought guests to the island, and I wish we could have NPC guests all the time, and the island was more of a resort that we built. For instance we could have a restaurant where we craft food recipes weekly for the restaurant. Or we could construct a mini water playground on the beach for NPCs to play on. How fun would it be if Alpha and Omega showed up? Or any of the NPCs that we don't see much anymore? They did a lot of work for Island Sanctuary, and I hope they keep adding features to it so it can be long term content.
For islands, I wish we had a more robust building system. Like a mini survival crafting game like Ark or Conan Exiles.
I kinda hope this whole expansion is like Eureka where it has its own system that affects player power levels.
I dunno man, the only detail Endwalker drew me into was how much talking took place in the pre-credits section, and 80% of it felt like pointless conjecture, as it just repeats a lot of things that were already explained.
Regarding the mystery of Solution 9, by logical inference, most veterans already know its role in the gameplay: It's going to be the endgame hub, like Eulmore or Radz-at-Han. It's where you will eventually go for your tome, raid and scrip materials and gear. This is known because on the FFXIV youtube channel, showcase videos for zones are either titled with "New Area" or "New Town". Tuliyollal and Solution 9 have the "New Town" label. This confirms they are hub areas and it's a given that Tuliyollal is the starting hub due to it being featured so much in the trailer. That leaves the only other option which is for Solution 9 to be the endgame hub.
So ultimately it means Solution 9 while looking really exotic and out of place, is likely going to be treated as "just another zone" like Mare Lamentorum. It's not a twist or a surprise because those cases would not even have any showcase videos on TH-cam at all to avoid massive spoilers (eg. Elpis). Of course there is still the question of why is it so high-tech but the FFXIV world already has high-tech and sci fi thanks to magitek and the allagans so it's not even all that much of a stretch that another civilisation could also be high-tech, the writers just have to invent some lore to explain it.
I thought Zidane's fighting style was more what inspired the Rouge/Ninja class? They both use daggers and similar fighting style. Yeah there will definitely not be a huge catalclysmic event in Dawntrail until the last expansion of this new arc.
All the conspiracies about zombie-waves of toxic casuals or Naoki Yoshida being malicious through laziness or evil, they've been tiring.
Homie + all of CBU3 was just multitasking, after having slowly written/developed everything in Endwalker over *10 years*.
It's been really healthy for the game for such tinfoil hat players to *move on* to other games (and then embarrassingly crawl back after they had left in a fit, before)
I personally liked Endwalker as a person who only jumps on FF14 here and there. I started back during shadowlands and I found the FF4 theme for FF14 amazing and the story great. I think people have gone crazy at this point tbh.
I am so looking forward to Dawntrail! When I first saw Solution 9, I immediately thought of Zanarkand (A city dead for a thousand years) from FFX! I know in my heart that the story will be EPIC! No story from any game or book I have ever read hit me in my soul like Shadowbringers & Endwalker did! The complete story from start to finish was awesome! I am stoked for a new story arc!
Nice to see a positive video about 14 👍 The doom & gloom parroted elsewhere is beyond annoying.
Westerners don't understand how Japanese storytelling works and that Final Fantasy XIV's story follows a structure pretty much ubiquitous to their writing (it's so common, it's even used in Japanese adverts) called Kishotenketsu. Basically, it's a four-act story structure where the first two acts (ki and sho) are an introduction to the setting and characters, followed by more of a deep dive into those settings and characters as the plot progresses, but then the real story actually begins in the third act (ten) with a massive shift that completely recontexualises the entire story. Then the final act is a resolution and conclusion in the aftermath of the shift.
Every Final Fantasy XIV storyline follows this structure (in A Realm Reborn, the shift happens when Gaius uses the Ultima Weapon on Garuda, Titan and Ifrit; in Heavensward, The Vault is the shift; in Stormblood, the introduction of the Resonant is the big shift in the story; in Shadowbringers, it happens quite late with the post-Innocence fight; and in Endwalker, it's Elpis) so anyone judging Dawntrail's story from first appearances has no understanding of how Japanese storytelling works. It even holds true I think for every Final Fantasy game story. Somewhere around the level 97-mark, expect a massive shift that completely recontextualises the story and reveals what it is truly about. So far all we know is the race to find the "Golden City" (probably Solution 9), something to do with Valigarmanda, and that one of the contestants mustn't win because they want to invade the Three Great Continents now the Garlean Empire has fallen - these will be our first two acts, and whatever will be in Act 3, they probably will not reveal (or if they do, it will be like how they had a Meteion line in the Endwalker Launch Trailer, as well as out-of-context clips of Ultima Thule and The Dead Ends where we don't know what's happening, or how in the Shadowbringers launch trailer they showed clips of Amaurot). We'll probably find the Golden City by Level 95 or 96 at the latest. The Launch trailer is always the thing to wait for, and especially pay attention to anything seemingly small or random that seem inexplicable without context because chances are they're the most important things (and not the big, shocking reveals).
the interesting thing is apparently Yoshi p was able to get Hironobu Sakaguchi to come and help write some of upcoming content
I think relaunch isn't quite right. It's the start of a new tale to tell, because Endwalker kind of... wrapped every last scrap
I think a lot of people missed, or maybe forgot, that we didnt have more to the relic system not because of constraints from FF16, but because they wanted more resources going towards Dawntrail. When initially announcing that it was going to be tied to Hildabrand quests and that it would be more laid back and closer to Heavensward relics, he cited the reason as needing more of that devtime towards Dawntrail specifically.
Probably also why it was the perfect time to introduce Zero, and the Void story, able to reuse simple types of assets and mobs and laying the foundation of future stories and utilizing that extra dev time towards Dawntrail again. It's the next era in FFXIV's life, and it's definitely going to go crazy.
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At this point, it's not too farfetched to think the new expansion is not what it appears to be. Back in Shadowbringer launch, Yoshi P downplayed the expansion to be a comprobable experience to other singleplayer RPG. But in reality, it far exceeded a lot of people's expectations when it came to the storytelling. Some even claiming it's the best they experienced. I've heard that the writers of Sorrow of Werlyt was involved in the new expansion. If true, we have something significant here.
I don't know what people mean by filler? I think it will be the start of a new story arc even if the story only spans another 1 or 2 expansions. I don't think it will be an ARR type of story though as much as maybe a ShB.
I think the first half will be and should be laid back and chill, my guess is the plot will get more serious and start teasing the new storyline in the back half. I hope it will be like this myself, just having some time to have fun with the characters sounds enjoyable but not really necessary for a whole expansion.
I think solution 9 might be the "golden city" emet told us about golden probably being a meraphor of some sort
I do not think it will be like a beach episode, I just desperately want our characters to finally get a goddamned break. I know we’re not really going to get one, but I can dream.
As much as i wish for many things to be improved like character creation variety, past alliance raid gear being dyeable and A SORT BUTTON FOR FC CHESTS. I fully trust anything this man promises
🤔 intersting I thought after zodiark and hydaelyn and ascians ark it’s done some ppl says dawntrail a prologue the thing they do after ending 😅
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I cant wait for us to go into dawntrail expecting a nice pallet cleansing sorbet but we end up getting a full course meal.
Actually i can see where this is going when i saw solution 9.
Anybody who has played ff9 would know of "Terra". We're going there. Basically, we're going to fight an evil character, we found out how they're actually genome created by someone, we go to the manufacturer, and its solution 9, where we find a lot of zidanes and kujas.
We just have no idea who the "Garland" is.
I think Dawntrail and the next expansion will probably have their own plotlines and subtley hint at an overarching new story until there's a big reveal later. I say this because going off what Emet Selch said, we'll be possibly going to Meracydia later and from everything we know about that place I can't see how it'd connect to anything in the Golden Cities.
I think I’ve played FFXIV long enough to predict that Dawn Trail will cause the same issues as the other previous expansions. Mass returns of players who took a break. Many people have their reasons for not currently playing. We all know someone who says.. they’re taking a break. Being burnt out. There’s no content. Nothing for them to do. Playing other games at the moment. I saw the same reasons post-Shadowbringers. Only to see massive waiting queues once Endwalker was released. So, I’m in the opinion that FFXIV is doing just fine at the moment. Hell, there’s still a queue to log in my world everyday.
Considering getting into this while the collection is really cheap on sale
The one thing I hope for dawntrail is more chances to characterize our Warrior of Light. I want our Warriors of light to be more expressive. The smile or 2 and the silence is cute/cool and all, but we have a strange presence in high action cutscenes. I play as a lalafell so i do understand the work needed to make cutscenes look right. But just a few cutscenes where I feel like i have real input would make me happy
That's probably why the fist fight against Zeno's felt so strong. Because we had a much stronger presence in the cutscene.
FF16 is incredible! like a movie. Dawntrail should be a new start for new players, where they dont have to play all the previous expansions, they can start right on dawntrail
We started as an adventurer, and ended up literally traveling worlds, different realms, dying, coming back, killing numerous gods, defeating an immortal race, etc.
After the ending to current storyline, it's kinda hard to just immediately live up to that now.
So I feel like this is gonna bring us back to the older style. It's just a new adventure. I feel like it'll be more focused and down to earth. Kinda like arr and heavensward.
After killing the literal gods of the world and realm, and averting the apocalypse for like the 10th time, what do you do?
Gotta start somewhere lol.
I'm worried about how character progression is gonna go. With classes now coming in so close to the caps, the sense of progression is just kinda gone. I'm wondering if we might not actually be building up to the next MMO tbh.
Hopefully, we will get Solution 9 outdoor/indoor furniture 😆
Im really hoping Dawntrail does more for the endgame than Endwalker. I missed Eureka like things to do because it really brought the community together. Gave us a reason to show off mounts and work together with the whole community to get a number of things done.
I'm looking forward to DawnTrail being a fun new adventure with new characters, high-enough stakes to keep my interest, and a plot that hopefully isn't as soul-crushing as Shadowbringers and Endwalker's darkest moments were
To be honest, I am perfectly fine with Dawntrail being a beach episode gone horribly wrong XD
For real though, having a chill expansion sounds like a breath of fresh air.
Just because the biggest bads we've faced are gone, that doesn't mean we can never face a greater challenge than them. From the very beginning we've been shown that world ending threats can rise from pretty much anywhere. The sky's the limit with Primals. Any one of them can become a world ender if their following grows enough. Creations can far surpass the power and intentions of their creators as with the Endsinger. Our own characters have grown from humble beginnings to facing off against gods. There's no reason others can't do the same and choose to target the WoL.
After seeing Solution 9 I honestly don’t know what to think about DT
I personally did not feel this was about to be a 'filler beach episode' and the folks I talk with seem to be in the same boat (pun intended). I really don't know if the majority even felt that it was going to be this. I think the issue is that a lot of folks like to rush through content (gotta be first, have the first new stuff etc mentality) and then complain when there is nothing to do. It's a huge reason I take my time as much as possible. I feel like when I'm in the mood there is ALWAYS something for me to do on my main char still (or alts) and when I'm not in the mood, I play something else.
Yeah Solution 9 seems like it would be another shard or reflection of the source. Either that or it's one of the tech worlds the Omicrons visited.
Dawn Trail would be great if we get more worlds like the 1st & the 13th. Maybe more of a backstory into the adventurer.
Idk. I personally loved all of Endwalker and the patches. My favorite expansion so far.
That said, I don't think anyone believes Dawntrail will be a "filler" expasnion. It's the start of a new story.
im excited for DT i enjoyed the ascion story line and EW was a good ending for that and what i really liked was that the wasnt any lingering parts to EW once did the final fight thats it with post EW being a short story with some extra characters. the new story we are gonna get that isnt about the world/universe ending so can make enemies more enjoyable and give them more of a unique feel with their own motives and goals.
I viewed this trailer as an emphasis of exploration to exotic lands rather than just a "beach episode." Feels like we're going to get out and see all those places whose names have popped up in conversation, much like Radz-at-Han used to be before Endwalker. And I don't believe the atmosphere is going to be "worldwide vacation" the whole time.
I am really hoping players have access to allocating their own points to stats again and more builds with different pieces of armor being available not just one or two different sets to pick and pull from.
No thanks. There were only a couple decent choicea per job, and the SMN SCH split borked anyone that played both.
Every trailer has usually been a tease of what will happen during the x0-x5 lvl zones. So I'mma call that things will escalate, i mean really get out of hand fast at around lvl 96-97 msq.