CI "Neck Beard 3" Surfboard Review Ep 124
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In this episode I review the "Neck Beard 3" by CI Surfboards.
Board Dims: Stock 5'5" x 18 7/8 x 2 1/4 (25.1L)
My Height 5'9" (175.26cm) and weight 165 lb (74.84 kg)
Love that you are considering front/back foot no one ever mentions this about boards and it would completely change the way a board feels to an individual
Absolutely agree
Excellent review as always Noel. Your surfing is a pleasure to watch. You really hammer out the subtle nuances when comparing shortboards in a way that's easy to understand!
Hi Noel thanks for this review.
If you had a seaside in your quiver would the NB2 be too much overlap in your quiver ? NB3 sounds maybe more likely to fill the lack of performance from the seaside in bigger waves?
Another great review - lots a great points of differences. Opt’d for the JS monsta 2020 today at Rincon. Stoked on the new NB3 - I added 1.5 liters too.
Awesome review - have been loving mine. Definitely feels extra smooth rail to rail. Got the H4 tri fin setup, have been really enjoying the speed from that.
Thanks for the review mate, this review twisted my arm. Was looking at the nb3 this past weekend, looked and felt awesome. Stay safe and keep carving
Hey Noel
Great review. I was wondering how you compare the NB3 to the JS Bullseye. And also how does it compare to one of your other favorites the Dom2?
Mahalo!
Hey Noel. I was wondering how the nb3 relates to the og flyer and how it relates to the rocket ride squash tail.
Keep up the good work.
The NB3 carries more glide compared to the OG so it paddles better and offers more down the line speed for me. The NB3 is also shorter in length for stock DIMS so it goes better in smaller waves as it fits in tighter transitions better. Overall I like the NB3 better as a Daily Driver compared to the OG for So Cal waves. The RW Squash Tail carries more speed down the line compared to the NB3 and it seems to be faster from turn to turn due to it's wider tail block. However the NB3 offers more hold, and control in 4-6' surf. The NB3 also offers more Drive on rail compared to the RW Squash Tail and OG Flyer.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I always thought your surfing looked the best in the Flyer review.
My last four purchases of MINI, FEVER, Rocket Wide and Happy, happened because I have watched your clips. And today, I've decided to go for another purchase of this NB 3. Your clips are the best. Your surfing, your words and your passion. Thanks for doing this Noel. I'll be watching you from the opposite shore
Yewww!! Cheers for the kind words! Stoked your finding some epic sleds
Last time I voted for Rocket wide, this time NB 3 over RW squash. Looking amazingly smooth, and the flow is just unbelievable!
Hi Noel, I just bought a Dumpster Diver and I'm super stoked with it! I would love your review of the Dumpster Diver or at least know if you think it is similar to the Neckbeard2. Congratulations for the videos🤙
I never tried the DD but it has more rocker compared to the NB2
Hi Noel. Thanks for the review. I've been riding a 5'7 (almost 28.7 liters) RW's as a daily driver for years and loved them. I recently bought a 5'8 NB 3 (29.2 liters) and I honestly been struggling to make the board go immediately ( I feel the RW would just go from the get go, and this one doesn't do that for me). I had some moments in more punchy waves where the board felt good (specially turning it), but not what I had with my RW's in terms of standing up and going. I'm definitely a heavy front footed surfer so maybe it's a question of shifting my weight back more. I just ordered some quads to see I that help the cause. Any advice would be welcome. Cheers!
Try the Quads first… hopefully you got Neutral or Pivot side fins to go with Pivot Quad rears?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I ride Medium futures and I just got the QD2 4'' 80/20 quad rears (I was thinking speed generating rears) to go with either AM1's or Jordy Medium's which are pretty balanced fins which are my usual thruster set up. I hope my reasoning is right! ha! Really looking forward to give it another go. Thanks again Noel!
@@tomasjacobi4699 Both of those side fins have a lot of rake… good carving fins and lots of drive. Not much pivot as a Quad though. Give them a go… you will have the speed and drive
@@surfnshowreviews7777 if you have a set of future quads that you love I'll give them a try. Thanks for all the answers!
@@tomasjacobi4699 Check out my 5 fins set. They are ridiculous… silky smooth with excellent drive, pivot, and release.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/all/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
I been waiting for the NB3 review, thank you Noel!
Hi Noel ! Great review, loved it ! This year being almost finished, what would be your go-to surfboard as a one board quiver 3-6 feet waves (beach break) ? For someone going down the line and working of basic maneuvers (beginner-intermediate) ? I was expecting the NB3 with this eggy outline, with a forgiving front foot placement, good paddling ... but maybe it's a bit too high performance oriented !
Keep up the good work !
Dominator 2..
Great review and comparison. Question - a lot of the time you talk about surfers being front/neutral/back footed while surfing, and in this video describe the NB2 tail sliding on cutbacks for front footed, but not back footed surfers. Footed-ness isn’t really discussed in the context of carver exercises or learning to surf, almost as if it’s just how someone naturally surfs. Is it something that can be manipulated and trained? Could a front footed surfer just hit their cutback back footed to prevent sliding out etc. ?
Many goofy footers are front footed, becouse their dominant leg is on the front of the board. So it's not entirelly optional, but it can be trained.
Watch his surfing tutorials. He goes over this on a carver. You can feel it on a surfskate. They way you have your weight on either foot. Feel the board on you heel and toe of you back foot. If your front footed on a carver you will slide out on hard turns because they are so short. If you push with your back foot you will hold and accelerate through turns on a carver.
So happy to see this review.
Thanks Noel!
Hi Noel, sick review. My HPSB (a DHD) just buckled on me so in the market for a new board for good conditions. I mainly surf our local cobble reefs here in South OC. For reference, I'm upper-end intermediate level. Also open to getting a daily driver or '1-board quiver' that performs well in mid to larger waves (4-8') and clean conditions. I already have a small-mid wave board I like. What do you recommend for an HPSB or high performing daily driver for the conditions I'm looking for? I'm considering Neckbeard 3, Hayden Shapes Holy Hypto, Pyzel Phantom, Pyzalien, Chilli Black Vulture, JS Happy Everyday, and JS Xero Gravity. Open to other suggestions too. Thanks so much.
I like the Holy Hypto
Hello Noel, great review once more. Had a NB1 for 6 Years, just had a chance to dial in a NB3 custom. This went along the lines with your review putting it more in a daily driver range. I always loved the idea to repurpose the agility of the NB1 in slightly bigger waves. The NB3 seems to be able to do that. Am 6'0 and 170.
I stretched out the length a bit, to a 5'10, keeping the rest stock, my old NB1 is a 5'8. To enter more steep Indonesian type waves. Also went for the EPS + Spine Tech.
What is your take on this board with Spine Tech vs lighter stringer version. Any prefernce?
Do you think stretching the board for more accessibility in slightly bigger waves is sensible?
2:19 always makes me laugh.
Hey Noel, how would you compare this to the Phantom or the Flat Earth (as the twin plus trailer setup you mentioned). Mahalo 🤙🏽
Hello Noel, thank you for everything. I was wondering, and other people in the commentary section as well, how would you compare the NB3 to the Dominator 2. Where and for what conditions would you prefer one, or the other. Maybe slip in the sharpeye inferno there too? Thanks a lot!
Maybe go to our website and look at the star rating on those 3 sleds to see what each board does best.
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What do you think of having a seaside, nb3 and a ci twin pin as a 3 board quiver? Also have a lane splitter in the mix
Epic Quiver
Thanks for all the awesome reviews, keep'em coming! I have a NB3 and love it, how does it compare to the Lost Baby Buggy? I'm looking for something the next level up in performance, between a HPSB (like Happy Everyday, Uber Driver, etc.), but similar feel to the NB3. Any ideas?
Mini Ghost Round Tail
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Ok, cool. I'll try to track down a Mini Ghost. Stoked on your videos!
Care to share what boards are currently in your permanent quiver or is that too long of a list?
Very good review as usual 👏👏👏
Hi Noel
Love the show
Little bit of an old thread here but if you get a chance I was wondering what you prefer for half decent 3-6 foot waves
Nb3 or phantom
And why?
Thanks
The are similar boards for sure. The Phantom has its wide point forward from center so its likes to carve and paddles better compared to NB3. However the NB3 surfs the pocket a little more vertical
Thanks Noel
Hope El Ninos been good to you
Recently, I got an old Tomo Nano and thought "that's gotta be similar to the NB2" Love board comparison reviews man! Cheers
Hi Noel,
How would the NB3 and your Fever fit in a quiver? (I know you liked a shorter, wider Fever). Or is there too much overlap?
Maybe to much overlap
What do you prefer. The neck bears two or three or rocket wide for 1-3ft surf.
Thanks
Hey Noel! Sounds like the NB3 is geared more to handle to larger punchier surf. I'm curious if you felt the Spinetek construction was strong enough to handle such conditions? I talked to a guy who recently snapped his RW Spinetek in average surf, so I wanted to get your overall feeling on how robust the tech is before dropping $$$.
I would go PU for punchy surf.
to cover chopy onshore conditions vs clean.. i feel that neckbeard with that single all way thru loves clean faces..but i've seen alot of feedback that that isn't good and skips out when its windy or textured/bumpy.. all the vids here on this rev def looked like nice clean waves.. what would be your goto board that youv reviewed in NB2 style (wider tail) that works in choppiness junk?
Choppy conditions the Inferno 72, Wilko F13,
Intresting.. why?
Great review. I have the NB2 and, as front footer, I do have issue with the board when it is 4+ foot with high period. From 1 to 1 foot the board is TOP. (unless the wave is really mushy). Now my question, with exactly the same dimensions the NB3 has a bit less volume so, to keep the my volume of 29.4 L I will either need to request a thicker board (2 3/8 to 2 7/16 or a longer one (from 5.9 to 5.10). Since the rail is medium, do you think a thicker board can be more tricky to turn ? THanks
don’t worry about exact amount of liters as much. your bodyweight fluctuates up to 6 pounds per day.
@@TheTestkind it is true but, at 47, I am always afraid to reduce board volume ;)
If your looking to use the NB3 in bigger better waves… like 3-6’ surf then go up 1” in length and don’t mess with the thickness much.
Time to bring on the Surfboard War II - NB3 v.s. RW squash
Hey Noel if u had to choose between the NB2 or the NB3 for everyday conditions which one would it be? Would you ever do a review on the album twinsman!
Hi Noel! First, thanks for all your work in doing honest, high quality reviews 👍
I'm a 43 year old intermediate/advanced surfer who surf French beachbreaks. I currently surf 2 boards : a fishbeard PU (I love it) and a quiver killer carbon wrap by lost (I surf it for many years). I'm looking now for a new user friendly shortboard for 3 - 5' (up to 6') beachbreak surf. I want to work on my turns, push harder and have fun. I found 2 boards at a good price in my liter range : a neckbeard 3 spine tech and a white noiz future flex (durability is a criteria for me). Which one would have your preference for that program?
NB3 for sure
Thanks Wiggoly Salas. NB2 looks better under your feet, NB3 looks like a NB2 step up like you were getting at. Would go good in the barrel for sure, you would take it to indo/hawaii etc. A key take out for me is anyone surfing front footed that cant adjust to the short board they are on should stick to twinnys/mid lengths/50L+ shortboards haha!!
Hey Noel, as a thruster you’d use a pivot fin in large? What would the benefit of a large fin be over the medium?
A large pivot fin offers more drive due to the wider base and because a pivot template is so upright it will still be loose. A medium Pivot fin feels really loose but it’s hard to generate speed down the line when there is nothing to push off of. I rode a medium pivot fin 1 time and hated it… my board felt super loose with no drive.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thankyou.
Hi Noel… what do you think about Glass Flex Fins in small or weak waves?
I prefer Fiberglass or Carbon fins for true turns. I’ve found that speed generating fins or NEO Glass fins flex out at the peak of turn when the waves are 2-3’+. In 1-2’ mushy surf they go good. Honeycomb fins will often flex out too in waves 3-4’.+ surf.
Howzit Noel
How would you compare the NB3 to the MonstaBox 2020 by JS Surfboards?
I'm really interested to hear your response. Thanks!
The NB3 Carrie’s way more speed and easier to shred in 2-6’ surf. The MB 2020 goes better in punchy beach break type waves. It has a bit of rocker in it… surfs more like a HPSB that you need to work for your own speed. The NB3 has more glide and get up n go speed.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 That's really helpful, THANKS!
Which board's rails do you think would be more full with both of them coming in at 31.3L?
(NB3 is 5'9'' & MB 2020 is 5'10'' Easy Rider dims)
Look forward to hearing from you!
@@leilanikaiawelacuesta7771NB3 on stock board. Not sure about easy rider dims. Go to a shop and hold then both in your hands
@@surfnshowreviews7777
You’re a legend !!!
No shops carry either brand on my island, which is why I ask. I have to order a $900+ board w/o even being able to hold or see it in person.
I really appreciate your input.
THANK YOU!
Great info as always, big thanks!!
Hi Noel, I finally got my NB3. I think the board is faster than the NB2,and, for me, rails are a bit lower, which is good. Is it fantastic on my backside; however, on my frontside, I found it difficult to get the rail in the water, do you have any idea why ? (same volume but 5.10 instead of 5.9)
Not sure… are you using a Raked fin like the AM’s?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 The FCS II Kolohe Andino. Indeed I may change the fins to AM just to check iit. Interesting looking to your review now, I notice that you flow for the lefts is also much smother and faster :)
I have the same issue? I use the the AM's?
@@allenwilliams8962 I also have the AMs but I prefer the board with the Kolohe...I do think it is more easy to make fast turns
@@josesnowsneves5132 For some reason I could not get the NB3 to go good frontside for some reason? Felt a little stiff and bulky...compared to my other CI's? I have a Happy everyday on order.
Hey would the nb2 be good for me?
I don't know if you remember me let me know.
Thanks so much
Sorry not sure I remember you. However the NB3 is epic as a Daily Driver and will suit most intermediate - expert surfers to progress your surfing.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 no worries I'm Gil kalbfeld you where helping find a board for small wave HPSB that could also work in not great surf.
I'm 5'3 100lb.
Want a 5'3 with a little more the 24L
You suggested the sub driver 2.0, but it was too long for me.
I like the NB2 Because of the speed you where talking about and I also feel like at pleasure point Santa Cruz, the waves are usually dose not have a long face, so that super top to bottom could be good.
I am looking for a daily driver, but that's pretty much the same thing as a step down where I live and if I moved to Florida.
Thanks
Gil
G'day Noel,
Can you tell us about your 2+1 prototype?
How will it differ from the classic MR's?
I need a 2+1 but I'm holding out to see what your set will look like.
On a personal note, thank you for the unprecedented 'apples to apples' comparisons never seen
in the history of surfing.
My pleasure…
My Prototype Fins are now in production and we will start pre selling them soon.
They have a wider base compared to some of the more popular Twin + Trailers like the MR’s, T1’s, Akila Aipa’s etc…. With that being said… a little more drive, hold, and control.They will go good in most Grovelers, Daily Driver boards in small waves due to more fin base.
I have also been riding them in certain Twin Fin boards without using a trailer and they go insane.
They are considerably smaller compared to my HP Twins but a little more surface area compared to most of the Twin + Trailers on the market.
Well, that’s exactly what I’m after.
A shorter twin with a wider base.
I was considering Christenson twin + trailer and an Evil Twin but it sounds like yours will be a better fit.
Pretty stoked for this one!
Hey mate thanks for the good work, what s your favorite between the NB3 and the Pyzalien 2?
Both boards are sick!! The NB3 is a bit faster in 3-6’ surf and the P2 offers more performance in the pocket with a better wave range of 3-8’ surf.
thoughts on js bullseye or nb3?
Bullseye seems to have a bit more rocker so the NB3 has more glide and speed down the line. The NB3 is smoother rail to rail so it has better flow too. The Bullseye might handle a little more surf but it’s close
@@surfnshowreviews7777 sweet thanks for the reply
I even surf my NB2 with MR - twin+1 fins. Felt like ever since i've started to do more rail to rail surfing and not relying on the fins and for the first time i could reach that feel of a decent release or slip. Not sure why, but somewhat i find it working great. Would you have any opinions on that?
If there surf get bigger than head high then i normally take my normal hpsb out with a thruster. And buying MF (rake) fins is next thing on my list to try it out with NB2 and see.
At the local shop i've been advised to either go with the HS Hypto Kryto 6"2 38.4LT or the CI Neck Beard 38.2LT....I'm jumping from my 6"6 pyzel gremlin 44LT into a more performance focus board aiming to keep progressing my surf. I usually surf average beach breaks with waves from 2-6FT and being an 85KG and 1,87m tall its allways hard for me to pick a board that is shorter ( aiming for 6"2 ), playful and still with volumes around 37LT (since I only surf for 1 and half years). Which board would you advise? The HS Hypto Kryto, the CI Neck Beard or any other board?
Hypto
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the feedback :)
Great review as always. That tail looks wide but apparently not sliding out.
The NB2 still in the quiver... Is the Rocket Wide still in the quiver?
RW Squash is still in my quiver. It’s epic
Hi！ Noel
I'm a surfer practicing ups and downs 172 pounds 176 cm. Which is better for stock size?
Volume suggestion is 32-34L
Noel Thank you!
I always enjoy watching your videos.
Have a nice weekend ~
would you recommend the Neck Beard 3, Blak Box 3 or the Rocket wide Squash for an intermediate surfer?
and which one would you say is the most user friendly?
@@ethantrewartha RW ST Carrie’s the most speed out of the 3 and it’s the most user friendly.
Noel, why don't you use front foot traction?
I’m not a fan of front foot traction.
Nb4 swallow tail
Nb5 double bump tail
Nb6 assymetric tail
Nb7 pintail
Nb8 no tail
Nb9 aw I give in, marketing at its best, 80% of surfers can’t tell if they’re missing a fin never mind the tail shape. 🤷🏻♂️🤙🏼
Dude. Totally. Wasn’t what was special about this board the block tail? First it was a super squared squash, then they went with the extreme block tail… now it’s a round tail?
Then they’ll start changing the nose…
@@thestow35 and suckers will buy it 🙄
@@biff022 all about the 💰
hey! neckbeard 3 or mini ghost round ?
Both are sick… I like the MG Round better
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thx:)
Is your NB2 asymmetrical? The tail does not look straight
Will you do reviews on DHD pro series boards?
The folks at DHD do not send in boards for review anymore. Sorry
@@surfnshowreviews7777 oh thanks so much for getting back to me! Have you done any reviews on the CI fever?
@@darlachenin1996 Yes… go to my website and you will see all the reviews I have done by Board Brands.
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Suuuuuuuppppper awesome!!!!!!
would you do a review on the black beauty by cisurfboards 🖤
That’s an older model… I would need to surf a proper wave for that sled… like JBay, Ocean Beach, Blacks,…. Etc.
Looking forward to the new JS Xero model review 🤙
The folks at JS have not been sending boards in for review.
NB2 forever!
Noel, your videos are amazing! Please a vid on the album twinsman that josh kerr rides in his latest edot 👌
How does this compare to the uber driver?
Both boards are epic in the same wave range. The NB3 might offer a bit more down the line speed to it have less overall rocker but it still shreds overhead surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks for the reply! Been riding an uber driver as a daily driver in HB and having a hard time giving it up. It has the perfect mix of forgiveness and performance for me. But the NB3 might make me give it a go.
DHD phoenix one day ?
I ordered two Phoenix boards to review last December. Looks like they are not coming. Sorry
Blacks board. Baja Mal
Maybe 3-6’ Blacks and Baha Malibu.
Awesome review - have been loving mine. Definitely feels extra smooth rail to rail. Got the H4 tri fin setup, have been really enjoying the speed from that.