1:44:42 Ticket: I double dog dare you to turn that damn computer off and use your damn brain Marz: How can he be on the show without a computer? 🤣🤣💀💀💀Hilarious.
ticket might be the most Bron obsessed person I've ever seen, chill was talking bout MJ as an owner and bro genuinely thought he was trying to big up lebron 😭
Y’all gotta understand how these LeBron fans are. Ticket isn’t wrong. They always have an underlying agenda. Ticket said it best when he mentioned guys that threaten Lebron (Kobe, Durant etc) they get real emotional
@@Ko8eanC24zy no way u are serious ticket be literally slurping Jordans meat chill was just talking about his horrible ownership and started riding Jordan’s meat
This the reason they don't need ticket on the Panel. Keep his sorry tail on vs world. Because all he does is kill the vibe every every episode he's on. I barely watch the episodes he's in. Or fast forward to when he leaves.
@@DesignzRUs the disrespect gotta stop bruh. Steph is literally bigger than a lot of PGs in the 90s but somehow he would get bullied but they didn’t 💀 be the same guys saying 6’8 260 Bron wouldn’t survive in the 90s. The 90s propaganda gotta stop. It was more physical but it wasn’t no damn prison ball. Everybody was not the damn bad boy pistons
If you side by side watch prime Ray Allen and prime Steph Curry and what you take out of it is “Ya those two are the same caliber of player” you should be banned from talking basketball. And what is that point fluent? People argue that Allen Iverson is a top 20 player of all time, that doesn’t make it any less of an stupid argument.
@@raejuan8177 One minute: "Steph is definitely the better shooter, but you'd be having a conversation about who is the better player, and it might lean toward Ray Allen because he could do more with the ball. " Next minute: " Now I didn't say he was on par with Steph Curry either, I said someone is going to have that discussion on if he is a better all around player" Biggest walk back I've ever seen in my life😭
Like Marz said the oldheads don't belive Ray Allen is better than Steph Curry they're just talking cause they can't handle a current player being better than the past
The rules from different eras has made Curry look better. The rules when Allen came in were more defensive oriented, so less points were scored. Allen came into the league where defenses started to get better. Allen played in the best defensive era. Curry didnt. If Curry did, we would be speaking about him differently. In the 90's, the defenses were more preferenced around the rim but more three-point shooting was emphasized...more so than the previous eras. However, they still didn't shoot threes in large volumes. In today's era, defenses are spreaded out because offenses are more spreaded out. It is difficult to defend in today's era but you have more zone now, which can help with spread offenses. In the 90's, you couldn't play zone as illegal defense existed. Some teams disguised their zone defense but made sure as much as possible that it wasn't noticeable by officials. Go actually watch basketball from older eras, you'll see what I speak of. I think young Ray Allen as well as prime Ray Allen will really thrive in today's era. He'll shoot even more because there's more space to do so. In addition, he was a slasher, so he'll definitely get to the rim more and to the free throw line more. Allen was slash to the rim on 90's defenses primarily that packed the paint. What make you think it wouldn't be easier in today's era. Lol. In conclusion, Ray Allen would look way more explosive in today's era as the rules would greatly tailor to his game.
My thing is ticket and other old heads will say it’s easier to play offense in this era because of spacing, but then will also turn around and say it’s easier to play defense in this era. So basketball is just an all around easier sport now? Like that can’t work, for offense to get easier defense has to get harder
@@taquaywhite4503 What?! It is easier to play offense in this era. However, defense had a lot more heart then, which allow defenses to be better, and of course you had certain rules to cater to that like you do in today's game.
@@j-us-t_be-in-g it’ll be ok if lebron and kd was compared to old players because they’d make some noise but curry giannis jokic embiid wouldn’t even be role players back then
Ticket is the ultimate stats guy. Marz was going off with what he sees Jokic do on the court, how he plays the game, and Ticket immediately starts rattling off point and rebounds and assists. Panel has to roast him on using stats so much, like they try to do Marz and LOW.
@DMPdaGamer Their dynamic is the best because A. Low is loud and aggressive enough to get with him B. Calls him out and pulls out facts C. Ticket respects Low the most outside of like chill and fluent D. They have become friends and joke around
Lebron lives rent free in tickets head, that’s how you know he’s clearly the goat in his eyes. He can’t go 10 minutes without returning to lebron. Chill was talking about MJ as an owner and GM and ticket immediately thinks he’s slandering Jordan to praise lebron.
Literally he’s so quick too get on his knees for Jordan to down lebron and 6 finals losses is his insult well is it an insult cause getting too the finals every year is no easy task
@@snippetsonly1453 he argues it is easy when you can just go to whatever team you want and you put all the good players on your team. But he also said he thought the bulls would beat the heat in 2011
@@taquaywhite4503 what ticket has for lebron is not hate is more than that he literally bring up lebron for no reason you can tell marz and chill are tired of hearing lebron specifically when the debate isn’t about him. He’s trying to turn this channel into a LeBron thing smh.
@@mjmason3600 it’s cause in his heart he knows lebron is better😂 the only talking point he has is 6 finals losses and Jordan’s “mindset” which idk how you can quantify mindset when deciding who’s better
@@taquaywhite4503 I doubt he thinks LeBron is better we know his criteria and it would be impossible for LeBron to be the top of it unless he wins several championships in his twilight years, he's just a massive basketball fan so is very opinionated. This happens in every sport.
They hyping up Ray Allen but I bet none of them have him in their top 5 shooting guards ever. Stop disrespecting respecting all time greats to get bad takes off
Does ticket not realize almost 99% of players lose more than they win? Example: Kobe player 20 years and won 5 times, the other 15 years he loss. Or do we only count losses in the finals? This isn’t a Kobe diss just the reality. Unless you were on Bill Russell Celtics, you loss more than you won.
@@j_the_don5160 it does matter . Plus y’all ain’t really watching anyway. If Poole can average 20 in this era a suped up Klay Thompson would definitely give Curry a run
Should ticket really be still in the panel. He has like 3 conversation topics and run around it every week. Its always stopping the motion of the conversation. Lol.
He has some horrible takes and obviously has an agenda when it comes to certain players but he's extremely entertaining and this show wouldn't be nearly as good without him. Watching ticket get Chill and Marz fired up is hilarious
@@anonymouspersox6626 He's entertaining for sure but it would be so much better if he didn't talk about Lebron every episode. It is getting less entertaining by the week.
Rent free, that’s how you know he’s tickets goat fr lmao. He has to make every topic about why lebron isn’t better than Jordan because deep down he knows he is
@@tashrif46 he talks more about lebron than everyone up there combined, he tries his hardest to slander lebrons career. Lebron lives rent free in his head
It’s funny that when it’s time to defend Jordan, the Lakers’ coaching was the reason for their young stars not developing quickly, but before today, Ticket swore that Lebron was the reason 😂😂😂
1:41:49 OHHHHHHHHHHH! WAAAAAT 😂💀!? Ainn no way Fluent just said we'd be discussing if Ray was a better PLAYER than Steph! Ainn no way boy. We would not be having that discussion. Steph would clear
Ticket, the guy who knows for a fact that lebron himself made every trade in his 20 year career on 3 different franchises, is asking fluent & chill if they were in the meetings with MJ. Laughable 12:59
I find it funny how Ticket is calling Chill a hate for saying Jordan is a terrible owner, but somehow Ticket's ridiculous campaign against Lebron pushing the PED BS isn't hating make it make sense.
Tatum is averaging 30,8,5 and is a better defender than Curry yet we not having the conversation that he is better than Curry… so Fluent can you stop with that narrative
Just say you agree with their opinion 😂 it's all smoke and mirrors if he can't get his team over the line. He'll be a James Harden calibre player otherwise. All time STATS with no rings to show for it.
@@JT-km6th exactly like it’s a reason they keep sayin “I have to wait to the playoffs…” they know he fits in that category as a player Lmfaoo all them stats and not winning nothing
It's pretty clear none of these folks actually pay attention while watching Jokic. There is a play in the finals where KCP was trying to make an inbounds pass. Jokic and Gordon are at the 3-point line. Jokic runs to the free throw line and both Butler and Bam run at him to stop the pass. Jokic immediately points upwards cause seeing Jokic move, Gordon moves to the dunker's spot. KCP makes a long pass for the alley-oop. He never touched the ball in this sequence. There are maybe 2 other people in NBA right now who can match his BB IQ and decision-making.
@@DesignzRUs Kobe have stopped him b4 Lmfaoo do you watch full games or highlights the point he was Makin curry wouldn’t be able to do what he doin now in this era back then which is a fact cause the rules let you play more defense. Even that play you talkin bout it was still great defense being played he ain’t making that kinda shot all game and don’t want that shot all game
Its so evident NO ONE on the panel with the exception of marz & low actually consistently watch nuggets games. When saying james wiseman is a worse defender is shocking. It shouldn’t be. The lack of actual watching basketball by people who speak about basketball its a little jarring
That Ray and Curry comparison is crazy. The fact that Ticket said Steph wasn't doing that vs Kobe when one of Stephs most popular clips is Kobe being physical with him and Steph still launching it over him. Not to mention Kobe acknowledged it. And this whole Ray would average 30 when players like KD/Lebron have averaged the same ppg despite the pace increasing?
damn bro im suprised low didnt blow up whenever they talked to him about watching the games, shi seemed so patronizing i woulda been hella annoyed lmao
Chris Webber would have f***** the league up in the Nuggets' system today because their system operates around a passing big in Jokic, which would also work for Webber.
NBA MVP based on 3 things in this order 1. Narrative. 2. Stats 3. Team Record. Embiid Jokic Giannis all have a cases but in this current Era narrative is the biggest factor in MVP voting.
@Tickettv be jock strapping Michael Jordan and Kobe , they perfect in his eyes .. and he always thinking about lebron he kept bringing up lebron to start stuff with chill bron live rent free in ticket head
2:26:26 that is factually correct. The New York Knicks and their media was parading that they were going to beat Chicago in the 1993 Eastern Conference Finals. They were 3-1 against the Bulls in the regular season games in 1992/93.
I don’t get it, offense now is easier than offense was in the 90s and 2000s but defense is also easier today than in previous eras. So the argument is basketball is just easier now than the 90s?
Saying a coach wouldn't let Curry play how play is stupid. Curry came in the nba in 09!. He was a mid range God and changed the game year by year. He would do the exact thing in any era
This is what will never make sense to me about ticket, he tries so hard to discredit every player today because the league is soft and scoring is so easy but then he praises giannis for dominating a weak league. How can you discredit today but praise the scoring of a player
@Taquay White I said the same thing in a previous panel and ticket fanboys told me that because Giannis won a chip in this era it somehow makes it a hard era only for him BUT not for Curry
Dub and fluent are right I’ve seen a quiet 23 points in a conference championship that keep a team in the game with the star pg missing most his shots but cashing in at the line you could feel his impact
I Disagree With Dub , I Don’t Ever Think I Seen A Player Look Transcendent In Person And I Seen Multiple NBA Games This Year . I Went To 2 Nets Games For Example And KD Didn’t Look Transcendent And They Played The Bucks Giannis Looked Regular And They Played Boston And No One Was OD Impressive
The hate this man ticket has in his heart for lebron is INSANE! Hate isny healthy, it can make ya sick. If anybody on their knees it's ticket for MJ and Kobe. This man flipped like 3 different topics into LeBron slander.
Bob is too emotional. Can’t get involved in any conversation or debate without having to get personal . This is just fun, a simple debate about basketball no need to take serious or start throwing personal jabs. The moment you do that you have already lost the debate. Try to stay calm like the others. Ticket and elder are the same
The dude they talk about being up stuff that was already been said Dude if lebron is on peds so is the rest of the league that’s means the old nba to lol
I remember Low said Mike would struggle with Jrue but Jimmy Buckets and Kawhi who have about the same game as MJ been giving Jrue Easy work All SEASON.
bro i don’t watch the panel without ticket, dude is nun put entertainment, i spilled my damn food listening to him😂, but his inability to say anything bad about mike is just awful, him being an owner and basketball player r 2 different things entirely, the way he tried to switch that around on chill was crazy, i legit haven’t heard ticket say one bad thing about mike
1:44:42 Ticket: I double dog dare you to turn that damn computer off and use your damn brain
Marz: How can he be on the show without a computer?
🤣🤣💀💀💀Hilarious.
Crazy how the old heads disrespect players of this era but the moment we disrespect they era they get emotional 😭
especially when their eras role players were steve kerr and our eras role players are Kyrie
@@caairon no one's calling kyrie a role player😭
@@caaironwhere is kyrie considered a role player
@@caairon say that shit louder
@@RandyTheFittest next to james harden and kevin durant
That ticket listing of best passers of all-time and Marz & Low reactions when he started reaching to chris Webber, Westbrook and Arvydas 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Nah Chris Webber is crazy LMAO
ticket might be the most Bron obsessed person I've ever seen, chill was talking bout MJ as an owner and bro genuinely thought he was trying to big up lebron 😭
Y’all gotta understand how these LeBron fans are. Ticket isn’t wrong. They always have an underlying agenda. Ticket said it best when he mentioned guys that threaten Lebron (Kobe, Durant etc) they get real emotional
@@Ko8eanC24zy no way u are serious ticket be literally slurping Jordans meat chill was just talking about his horrible ownership and started riding Jordan’s meat
@@Ko8eanC24zy ticket literally has 100 episodes on his yt on why lebron isn’t the goat if that isn’t hating a meat slurping idk what is
@@Ko8eanC24zy "an underlying agenda" dude are u srs
This the reason they don't need ticket on the Panel. Keep his sorry tail on vs world. Because all he does is kill the vibe every every episode he's on. I barely watch the episodes he's in. Or fast forward to when he leaves.
So how the hell they allowed Reggie Miller to play like he played , but Curry couldn't 😂😂😂😂😂
I’m saying 💀 Mark Price was giving mfs buckets but Steph getting clamped all game?!?!? Stop the cap
@@darrellwilliams9168 🤣 talking about theu giving him a hard foul. Dude will get up and shoot the damn free throw like everyone else
@@DesignzRUs the disrespect gotta stop bruh. Steph is literally bigger than a lot of PGs in the 90s but somehow he would get bullied but they didn’t 💀 be the same guys saying 6’8 260 Bron wouldn’t survive in the 90s. The 90s propaganda gotta stop. It was more physical but it wasn’t no damn prison ball. Everybody was not the damn bad boy pistons
because Reggie is a DAWG!!! the disrespect to Curry is insane
@@darrellwilliams9168 bro spud Webb and muggsy bogues were like 5’7 and 5’4 and they were eating in the 90s lmfao these old heads are delusional
Idk if its been said before but Chill’s memory is crazy. I was blown away when he remembered the number of 30 point games Hill had v Pippen
Right? I hope my memory is half as good when I'm that age.
That’s because chill actually knows basketball. Can’t say the same for others on the panel.
I don’t understand how he remembers so much stuff, like I can’t tell you the finals mvp and winner the past 20 years. Let alone all of them
@@taquaywhite4503 Timmy
@@taquaywhite4503 Didn't he do that for a Fluent and Chill segment? When he got it by the year and said the right names, I was flabbergasted bruh
If you side by side watch prime Ray Allen and prime Steph Curry and what you take out of it is “Ya those two are the same caliber of player” you should be banned from talking basketball. And what is that point fluent? People argue that Allen Iverson is a top 20 player of all time, that doesn’t make it any less of an stupid argument.
Honestly I hate it when he does that "because a group of people will say this"😭😭😭
fluent is just a master back pedaler 😭 when he gets any push back he just says thats what the people will probably think like who gaf
@@raejuan8177
One minute: "Steph is definitely the better shooter, but you'd be having a conversation about who is the better player, and it might lean toward Ray Allen because he could do more with the ball. "
Next minute: " Now I didn't say he was on par with Steph Curry either, I said someone is going to have that discussion on if he is a better all around player" Biggest walk back I've ever seen in my life😭
@@raejuan8177Fr 😂😂
Another day of me cooking u guys better appreciate me
😂😂😂 tell em Marz
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@@Flat_top_king12 l ratio + u got a flat top. get your shit together
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Like Marz said the oldheads don't belive Ray Allen is better than Steph Curry they're just talking cause they can't handle a current player being better than the past
I swear, it’s like in their mind it’s impossible for any current player to be better than one of their greats.
Bucka Ray was a complete offensive player he'd go crazy in this era....Steph still GOAT shooter
@@Bancos87 no one is denying and no one was debating that they were comparing him to curry not him to other players this era
I agree but you gotta understand fron point of view when we get older we not gonna say anyone better then curry at shooting
The rules from different eras has made Curry look better. The rules when Allen came in were more defensive oriented, so less points were scored. Allen came into the league where defenses started to get better. Allen played in the best defensive era. Curry didnt. If Curry did, we would be speaking about him differently. In the 90's, the defenses were more preferenced around the rim but more three-point shooting was emphasized...more so than the previous eras. However, they still didn't shoot threes in large volumes. In today's era, defenses are spreaded out because offenses are more spreaded out. It is difficult to defend in today's era but you have more zone now, which can help with spread offenses. In the 90's, you couldn't play zone as illegal defense existed. Some teams disguised their zone defense but made sure as much as possible that it wasn't noticeable by officials. Go actually watch basketball from older eras, you'll see what I speak of. I think young Ray Allen as well as prime Ray Allen will really thrive in today's era. He'll shoot even more because there's more space to do so. In addition, he was a slasher, so he'll definitely get to the rim more and to the free throw line more. Allen was slash to the rim on 90's defenses primarily that packed the paint. What make you think it wouldn't be easier in today's era. Lol. In conclusion, Ray Allen would look way more explosive in today's era as the rules would greatly tailor to his game.
Ray Allen and Steph conversation is old head syndrome and nostalgia reaching peak heights
the reach they’ll go too to not give this gen credit is insane
My thing is ticket and other old heads will say it’s easier to play offense in this era because of spacing, but then will also turn around and say it’s easier to play defense in this era. So basketball is just an all around easier sport now? Like that can’t work, for offense to get easier defense has to get harder
@@taquaywhite4503 What?! It is easier to play offense in this era. However, defense had a lot more heart then, which allow defenses to be better, and of course you had certain rules to cater to that like you do in today's game.
@@j-us-t_be-in-g it’ll be ok if lebron and kd was compared to old players because they’d make some noise but curry giannis jokic embiid wouldn’t even be role players back then
@@j-us-t_be-in-g is it easer to play defense today, yes or no? If you say yes then you’re arguing that basketball is easier now than before
Ticket is the ultimate stats guy. Marz was going off with what he sees Jokic do on the court, how he plays the game, and Ticket immediately starts rattling off point and rebounds and assists. Panel has to roast him on using stats so much, like they try to do Marz and LOW.
its crazy fr
They need to stop bringing ticket on entirely he kills the vibe every episode he's on
Keep his sorry butt on vs world and keep it rolling
Also we need the Low and ticket show. They're chemistry and dynamic is the best on the show by far. Entertainment value would be 🔥
Omg no Low Knows is fine need to stop bringing ticket on the Panel he can stay on tickets vs the world. He just kills the vibe every episode he is on
@DMPdaGamer Their dynamic is the best because
A. Low is loud and aggressive enough to get with him
B. Calls him out and pulls out facts
C. Ticket respects Low the most outside of like chill and fluent
D. They have become friends and joke around
@@dmpdagamer and Ticket is mad entertaining and loud and funny
@@theprophet9656 to you. To me he nor for The Panel
@@dmpdagamer what shows u like?
That steph & ray take was crazy
Ticket keep Lebron in his mouth more than Savannah
Ong he riding Jordan’s meat soo hard he doing it w no hands
Ticket a menace for that last sentence 😂😂😂
Which one??
😂😂😂😂😂
@@brisko713 the hayley one
Who Haley ?
Playmaker Hailey, host on the Fluent & Chill show on the channel. She’s hot
when chilltown hit you with the “I AINT DONE YET” OG ain’t playing
Lebron lives rent free in tickets head, that’s how you know he’s clearly the goat in his eyes. He can’t go 10 minutes without returning to lebron. Chill was talking about MJ as an owner and GM and ticket immediately thinks he’s slandering Jordan to praise lebron.
Literally he’s so quick too get on his knees for Jordan to down lebron and 6 finals losses is his insult well is it an insult cause getting too the finals every year is no easy task
@@snippetsonly1453 he argues it is easy when you can just go to whatever team you want and you put all the good players on your team. But he also said he thought the bulls would beat the heat in 2011
@@taquaywhite4503 what ticket has for lebron is not hate is more than that he literally bring up lebron for no reason you can tell marz and chill are tired of hearing lebron specifically when the debate isn’t about him. He’s trying to turn this channel into a LeBron thing smh.
@@mjmason3600 it’s cause in his heart he knows lebron is better😂 the only talking point he has is 6 finals losses and Jordan’s “mindset” which idk how you can quantify mindset when deciding who’s better
@@taquaywhite4503 I doubt he thinks LeBron is better we know his criteria and it would be impossible for LeBron to be the top of it unless he wins several championships in his twilight years, he's just a massive basketball fan so is very opinionated. This happens in every sport.
Whenever someone says "they don't play defense today" just stop taking that person's opinions seriously.
They hyping up Ray Allen but I bet none of them have him in their top 5 shooting guards ever. Stop disrespecting respecting all time greats to get bad takes off
Saying ray Allen would have been as good as curry in todays era is crazy.
Does ticket not realize almost 99% of players lose more than they win? Example: Kobe player 20 years and won 5 times, the other 15 years he loss. Or do we only count losses in the finals? This isn’t a Kobe diss just the reality. Unless you were on Bill Russell Celtics, you loss more than you won.
patrick mccaw
Bro. Counting Finals Losses… is not a knock on a record. Losing first round or not making playoffs might but losing in the finals that’s ridiculous
That ray allen shit made me cry laugh. I was dead ass on the floor at work rolling because that shit was hilarious. I lost a little respect for fluent
i want to believe he was just trolling, he's way too smart to say shit like that
How old are you?
@@_lamar5059 does that matter? If he say he 20 he can still go and watch Ray Allen play. I stg it ain’t hard for us to do 😂
@@j_the_don5160 facts. Im 23 and have watched a lot of ray allen
@@j_the_don5160 it does matter . Plus y’all ain’t really watching anyway. If Poole can average 20 in this era a suped up Klay Thompson would definitely give Curry a run
Should ticket really be still in the panel. He has like 3 conversation topics and run around it every week. Its always stopping the motion of the conversation. Lol.
ong we ain’t even get to finish the jokic vs embid offensively convo cuz of him
He should not be on the Panel. He doesn’t have the ball knowledge or debate skills to be on it.
@@j.hartman120 ye i see wha u sayin but whether we like it or not sadly he adds shock value n he is funny so 🤷🏾♂️
He has some horrible takes and obviously has an agenda when it comes to certain players but he's extremely entertaining and this show wouldn't be nearly as good without him. Watching ticket get Chill and Marz fired up is hilarious
@@anonymouspersox6626 He's entertaining for sure but it would be so much better if he didn't talk about Lebron every episode. It is getting less entertaining by the week.
13:49 Ticket why you bringing LeBron in a Michael Jordan ownership topic😂😂
Cause LeBron stays on tickets mind
Rent free, that’s how you know he’s tickets goat fr lmao. He has to make every topic about why lebron isn’t better than Jordan because deep down he knows he is
@@taquaywhite4503 ehh I wouldn't go that far.
@@tashrif46 he talks more about lebron than everyone up there combined, he tries his hardest to slander lebrons career. Lebron lives rent free in his head
@@taquaywhite4503 that I agree with. But I dont think he considers LeBron his closet GOAT
It’s funny that when it’s time to defend Jordan, the Lakers’ coaching was the reason for their young stars not developing quickly, but before today, Ticket swore that Lebron was the reason 😂😂😂
11:10 Tickets black durag is hilarious 😂
I love y’all guys but wtf the 80-2000 bias is crazyyyyyy Webber over jokic is insane
1:41:49 OHHHHHHHHHHH! WAAAAAT 😂💀!? Ainn no way Fluent just said we'd be discussing if Ray was a better PLAYER than Steph! Ainn no way boy. We would not be having that discussion. Steph would clear
Ticket, the guy who knows for a fact that lebron himself made every trade in his 20 year career on 3 different franchises, is asking fluent & chill if they were in the meetings with MJ. Laughable 12:59
“Lebron has 200 trades on his watch”
The way OG was having a crisis over Fluent and Dub complimenting eachother 😭
Ticket is like a functional beetlejuice
And a MJ meat rider
You can’t use that argument against Steph because HE’S the one who changed the era of basketball. For anyone else, I’ll listen to the argument
I find it funny how Ticket is calling Chill a hate for saying Jordan is a terrible owner, but somehow Ticket's ridiculous campaign against Lebron pushing the PED BS isn't hating make it make sense.
Exactly. He shouldn't be on the Panel he kills the vibe every episode he's on.
Tatum is averaging 30,8,5 and is a better defender than Curry yet we not having the conversation that he is better than Curry… so Fluent can you stop with that narrative
You can tell LOW and Marz are the only ones that either watch Jokic, or actually pay attention when watching Jokic
Bru we all watching him Bru stop sayin this dumbass shìt lmfaoo we all ARE WATCHING he just ain’t what they say he is
@@aquartermil to you,its all opinions
Just say you agree with their opinion 😂 it's all smoke and mirrors if he can't get his team over the line. He'll be a James Harden calibre player otherwise. All time STATS with no rings to show for it.
@@JT-km6th you sound just like Ticket 🤦♂️
@@JT-km6th exactly like it’s a reason they keep sayin “I have to wait to the playoffs…” they know he fits in that category as a player Lmfaoo all them stats and not winning nothing
It's pretty clear none of these folks actually pay attention while watching Jokic. There is a play in the finals where KCP was trying to make an inbounds pass. Jokic and Gordon are at the 3-point line. Jokic runs to the free throw line and both Butler and Bam run at him to stop the pass. Jokic immediately points upwards cause seeing Jokic move, Gordon moves to the dunker's spot. KCP makes a long pass for the alley-oop. He never touched the ball in this sequence. There are maybe 2 other people in NBA right now who can match his BB IQ and decision-making.
For someone who hates hypotheticals, fluent was talkin crazy with these ray allen curry takes.
1:44:38 ticket was definitely that kid back in the day talking about " I double dog dare ya" 🤣
Ticket was for sure that one bad ass kid your parents warned you about 😂
36:12 that impression of Chltwn is hilarious😂😂😂
1:46:02 you a damn lie. Kobe called Curry a killer! Kobe was all over Curry and he pushed him off and bust a three in his grill from 30 feet 😂
One play is crazy…
@@aquartermil well go watch full games
@@DesignzRUs I watch full games Lmfaoo you go watch you da one who named only one game not me
@@aquartermil I gave one moment based off what ticket said. Kobe couldnt stop that man so thats cap. Kobe had major respect and love for Curry
@@DesignzRUs Kobe have stopped him b4 Lmfaoo do you watch full games or highlights the point he was Makin curry wouldn’t be able to do what he doin now in this era back then which is a fact cause the rules let you play more defense. Even that play you talkin bout it was still great defense being played he ain’t making that kinda shot all game and don’t want that shot all game
Ticket say he not praising Jokic but the way he was describing how the MVP is given is exactly how Jokic won his MVPs
I mean we did see Brad Beal average 30 for 2 seasons straight and nobody considered him a Top 5 Player so that Ray Allen Take goes out the way
Ray Allen is better than Beal lmaoo. He would average almost 30 with the sonics and lead his team to at least Round 2
18:47 nobody telling me they knew Giannis was gonna be this in 2013 Chill is capping 🧢🧢🧢
I did lol he was a crazy prospect u must not was jus paying attention to upcoming players
You probably wasn’t watching family nigga was kd height with a Westbrook type of play style
fax bro no one expected some random 15th pick to be a 2 time mvp
@@raejuan8177 go look at what scouts said about him
Some people did see potential in him tho
Its so evident NO ONE on the panel with the exception of marz & low actually consistently watch nuggets games. When saying james wiseman is a worse defender is shocking. It shouldn’t be. The lack of actual watching basketball by people who speak about basketball its a little jarring
Fluent does not have an NDA 🤣🤣. Bet he never talks about this “report” in a few weeks. Ticket is obsessed with Bronz
Can’t wait for These playoffs man so many legacies are on the line.
Imo Jokic and Embiid have the most at stake. I had KD in the mix but i make exceptions for injury. Throw CP3 in there too
@@daeshawnkemp879 throw AD, Kawhi / pg13, harden, kyrie, And possibly Luka in there as well.
1:35:15 I am glad Fluent said that. Great players would be great in any era.
Ticket Talk More About Lebron Then Skip Bayless😂😂😂😂😂
What did LeBron do to make ticket so emotional 😂
Threaten MJ legacy
That Ray and Curry comparison is crazy. The fact that Ticket said Steph wasn't doing that vs Kobe when one of Stephs most popular clips is Kobe being physical with him and Steph still launching it over him. Not to mention Kobe acknowledged it.
And this whole Ray would average 30 when players like KD/Lebron have averaged the same ppg despite the pace increasing?
Mars gets a spurt of energy when low gets on
i get a spurt of energy when the topic is actually basketball
damn bro im suprised low didnt blow up whenever they talked to him about watching the games, shi seemed so patronizing i woulda been hella annoyed lmao
Chris Webber would have f***** the league up in the Nuggets' system today because their system operates around a passing big in Jokic, which would also work for Webber.
2:18:20 Giannis is FAAAAARRR more popular than Embiid ticket lol
How can they laugh at Russell Westbrook when he averaged a triple double for 3 straight seasons
MARZ>>>>>
damn right
ticket obsessed with lebron it’s lowkey getting old now
NBA MVP based on 3 things in this order 1. Narrative. 2. Stats 3. Team Record. Embiid Jokic Giannis all have a cases but in this current Era narrative is the biggest factor in MVP voting.
Ray allen being better than curry is the worst take ive heard
@Tickettv be jock strapping Michael Jordan and Kobe , they perfect in his eyes .. and he always thinking about lebron he kept bringing up lebron to start stuff with chill bron live rent free in ticket head
ending was top 5😹
2:26:26 that is factually correct. The New York Knicks and their media was parading that they were going to beat Chicago in the 1993 Eastern Conference Finals. They were 3-1 against the Bulls in the regular season games in 1992/93.
I don’t get it, offense now is easier than offense was in the 90s and 2000s but defense is also easier today than in previous eras. So the argument is basketball is just easier now than the 90s?
Yeah
But you could say defender now could be better in the 90 also
And you can also say players today are smarter I mean look at harden In 2019 and what he did lol
It's just old head bias. Those two points cannot function together, but they just want to discredit new players.
@@BlkStar99 it just doesn’t make sense how 2 opposing thinks can both get easier, that means they’d be the same comparatively to the prior era
Saying a coach wouldn't let Curry play how play is stupid. Curry came in the nba in 09!. He was a mid range God and changed the game year by year. He would do the exact thing in any era
They talked like steph came to the league 2015😄
Curry & Jokic on a team would be 🔥
Nah fluent and ticket were on real clown behavior.
This is what will never make sense to me about ticket, he tries so hard to discredit every player today because the league is soft and scoring is so easy but then he praises giannis for dominating a weak league. How can you discredit today but praise the scoring of a player
@Taquay White hes just biased and doesnt care about logic or reason
@Taquay White I said the same thing in a previous panel and ticket fanboys told me that because Giannis won a chip in this era it somehow makes it a hard era only for him BUT not for Curry
@@theprophet9656 yeah and that shit makes no sense. How is the era only tough for 1 person to win but when anyone else wins it’s soft and easy?
1:22:25 by the way, this was a Dominique Wilkins after the Achilles tear in 1993 and even though the Bulls sweeped them, Dominique was torching Pippen
Dub and fluent are right I’ve seen a quiet 23 points in a conference championship that keep a team in the game with the star pg missing most his shots but cashing in at the line you could feel his impact
3’s don’t make defense easier , a defender still has to guard & close out , back the throwing it in the post only one guy was then playing defense.
Ticket love LBJ low key nobody be talking about him he bring him up no matter what subject they talking about😂😂😂.
Jokic disrespect is too much bro I need to come on the show one day
He’s a name brand Sabonis
AD was hurt a lot in 2016, you couldn’t argue him Top 5 that season.
No way he was top 5 then
@@sulwhale3171 how many games did AD play?
Ray Allen better at basketball than steph IS CRAZYYY
so ticket on FLUENT & CHILL confirmed this thursday
3:23:29 Dub laughing at the Marz vs Ticket duel 3000😂😂😂😂😂
We ain’t giving no respect to Karl Malone Fluent 😂
Don’t do the panel every day once a week is good it builds up anticipation that good for the viewers
I watched Chris Webber all the time and he couldn't pass nearly as good as jokic in his best days!!!
Lmaoooo This Guy Said J Will And Chris Webber ,Gary Payton Russell Westbrook Are getter passes Than Jokic wow
Again. Non hornets fans judging mj w no idea of the roles that were played
I Disagree With Dub , I Don’t Ever Think I Seen A Player Look Transcendent In Person And I Seen Multiple NBA Games This Year . I Went To 2 Nets Games For Example And KD Didn’t Look Transcendent And They Played The Bucks Giannis Looked Regular And They Played Boston And No One Was OD Impressive
The hate this man ticket has in his heart for lebron is INSANE! Hate isny healthy, it can make ya sick. If anybody on their knees it's ticket for MJ and Kobe. This man flipped like 3 different topics into LeBron slander.
Lol dude laterally bring up LeBron for no reason he kills the whole conversation
Ticket because we know someone isn't going to the finals means they can't win MVP?!?!? Fried brain cells
The start of the end 😭
36:50 lmao 😭😭😭 and I fuck with chilltown heavy
Bob is too emotional. Can’t get involved in any conversation or debate without having to get personal . This is just fun, a simple debate about basketball no need to take serious or start throwing personal jabs. The moment you do that you have already lost the debate. Try to stay calm like the others. Ticket and elder are the same
💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Of course ticket brings up lebron and peds. Get off his nuts yo lol
The dude they talk about being up stuff that was already been said
Dude if lebron is on peds so is the rest of the league that’s means the old nba to lol
The ray Allen take got me screaming 😭😭😭😭😭
Ticket why are you still talking about Lebron losing at his age when Jordan at the same age missed the playoffs and barely averaged 20
“THIS A OLD DUDE CAPPIN FOR YOUNG CATS! YOU SAD BOY!” 😭😭😭😭😭 36:50
Why bro riding for Wiseman like that lol. If I were Jokic I wouldn’t play defense either, he’s an extremely smart player!
I think Ray Allen would’ve been better than Klay Thompson, but not better than Curry
I remember Low said Mike would struggle with Jrue but Jimmy Buckets and Kawhi who have about the same game as MJ been giving Jrue Easy work All SEASON.
I know Ticket be standing up in his room the with vain popin out his neck the way he be screaming
23:43 some of the modern players need that.
bro i don’t watch the panel without ticket, dude is nun put entertainment, i spilled my damn food listening to him😂, but his inability to say anything bad about mike is just awful, him being an owner and basketball player r 2 different things entirely, the way he tried to switch that around on chill was crazy, i legit haven’t heard ticket say one bad thing about mike
Exactly we aren’t saying him being a owner affects his legacy or anything
2:38:56 LOW loves when he hears people hang themselves with their own words
I’d listen to Gilbert before fluent any day of the week
I’m sorry who is joker taking off the dribble who?