Right now I am imagining zoro start crying while saying : "You really reminds me of my friend" and tashigi become confuse, her anger all gone and in the end she forgive him. 😢
@G0L_D_Fshthats a lot of characters that returned really out of nowhere in one piece. At least tashigi got hinted she would play a big role for one of the main characters considering the stabilished connection, but she actually ended up heavily sidelined because theres just too many.
As much as I want Kuina to be alive, I really think she's gone. Tashigi just so happens to be a lot like her. I find it to be very painfully realistic, because sometimes we lose people, and for a long time we wonder what they could've been like if they stayed around. What would they look like, what would they have sounded like? And sometimes we meet someone who reminds us of the person we lost, and it messes with our minds. It makes us angry and sad and brings back the grief tenfold when we thought we grew past it. Why it feels like it's not fair that we stayed, but they left.
I love your point of view! I've never thought about it, but now I think this would be a good ending... Zoro finding out what really happened to Kuina, why she REALLY died. So we could also learn more about his backstory. I would love to see Zoro emotional once again. Tashigi isn't Kuina, but she hears her story as well and remembers this scene. I think she and Zoro would become friends after all and she could help him to deal with his grief. And I am so sorry, for your loss, mates! I wish you strength, your love ones will always be with you!
Zoro is going to die, meet Kuina, tell her that he became the best, and when she invites him into heaven, he walks the wrong way and ends up back in the world of the living.
I'd love if he does die, come back and fail to mention the "field of flowers" that a few of the other Straw Hats mentioned when they nearly died, simply because he got lost and never found it.
I see a lot of people debate on whether Tashigi is actually Kuina or whatever, but personally I like that she's her own person. People die, often times in ways or at times where it's a terrible tragedy, and unfortunately as much as we may hate it, they stay dead. I feel like that aspect is pretty crucial imo.
I tend to believe Tashigi is a reincarnation of Kuina and that’s why Zoro recognizes so much of his friend in her not just because of the resemblance but the parallel similarities in both of them. The one difference I can tell is that Tashigi seems a lot nicer then Kuina.
I've always been a bit disappointed they didn't do more with smoker and Tashigi they had a lot of potential and they were fairly recurring for a while bit now they seem massively beneath the strawhats same with koby and Helempo honestly.
If Zoro fought Tashigi without hesitation, he must've thought that there was no way that his friend was still alive until she started speaking like Kuina. Her fighting skills didn't change that much if she really is still alive and Zoro improved alot to the point he couldn't remember Kuina's swordfighting skills from their days of childhood. I doubt that he'd recognize her swordsman skills with that thick head he's carrying on his shoulders.
Bro oda is planning this out, if tashigi really is just some random marine girl who is coincidentally a swordsman like kuina, why is she crossing paths with zoro specifically.
I mean is possible, but her similar appereance might have importance in the future for strong emotional moments. When you think about it, Tashigi is the only person that has been capable to pull Zoros past back to reality. What if they have one final clash or Tashigi witness Zoro doing a feat of great swordsmanship and Tashigi says something like "hate to admit it, you are the greatest swordsman in the world" and in that moment Zoro can have an internal emotional moment of how Kuina would think of him and maybe give him a come back line like "Dont say it if you havent try yet".
I've read somewhere abt kuina's theory that the meaning of falling the stairs in japanese means suicide.. for anime show this is sensitive for viewers.
@@tetrahedronal2829she was told by her father that women couldn’t be master swordsmen. If she did commit suicide, then it’s possible she made that promise to zoro to allow herself to dream for a bit. (she viewed zoro as still a kid, so he would be naive to how the world worked. )
Imagine the real story behind Kuina's death was that she fell down the stairs, got amnesia and was kidnapped or sold to the marines by someone like the dojo dude who was her father? Its unlikely, I know but not impossible if they actually wanted to preserve her for another time.
@@bryanandujar3683 so she was a failed test clone? That's even more fucked...and here I thought Vegapunk might actually be a good guy but this bish in the World Government playin' god...or at least playing with the natural order under a real god.
Oda sure loves fucking with Zoro: - Bad sense of directions - Narcoleptic - A literal lookalike of his dead childhood rival/love interest probably - Took away his eye & refuses to tell us why or how
I'm calling it as I always have, this is Kuina, and she never died... or maybe she did but through Dr. Vegapunk or some devil fruit she ate herself and doesn't know or... someone else ate and used on her to revive her but at the cost of her memory... because she is way to similar and says way to Familiar things to be someone else completely.
There was a chapter where the revolutionary army went to Shimotsuki village around the time that Kuina "died" They were shown to be on their ship at shimotsuki treating someone injured. So my personal theory is that Kuina either A lost her memory, because she really did fall down some damn stairs. Or B she has had her memory altered. Either way, Kuina is now a Revolutionary double agent who has infiltrated the Marines. She is a sleeper cell and has no memory of any past life aside from that of Tashigi. Tashigi in japanese means "the common snipe" In western culture and literature there is a pervasive joke referred to as a "snipe hunt" In this joke you trick someone into searching for a creature or object which does not exist. In many cases a Snipe. While there is a european bird called a Snipe they are not related. Long story short. Oda sent us on a 25 year snipe hunt. Tashigi is in fact Kuina whether she knows it or not.
I think tashigi is kuina and acting as a noob in ,swordfight, she have a fruit which can change her genetics and she is mihawk, she helps zoro progress while being tashigi and checks the progress while being mihawk😅😅
After seeing a manga spoiler, I now have reason to believe Zoro’s childhood friend and Tashigi are both the result of some scientific experiment or may have simply been long lost twins.
I have been shipping it hardcore for years. It was my first One Piece ship and is truly the only one that really matters. If it never really becomes canon, I will be heartbroken. We all know destiny is a huge theme in One Piece and it definitely feels like they are destined to be together.
nahhh that's Kuina, she fell off the stairs and beat her head and gone amnesia like Goku, no way that's just another character they're literally the same
I think tashigi is the only one in one piece who knows about kuina? Even luffy doesn't know about it, does he?? I mean, why do I feel like this is only first and last time zoro talked about kuina with others.
* My theory about Kuina* Kuina was kidnapped to the world government and Dr. Vegapunk did something to her and made her forget her past and made her live with a different name and work for the Navy. And the reason maybe because they feared she could be a huge problem in the future facing her so they made her their ally.
ONE OF THE GREATEST PLOT THREADS ODA MADE FOR ZORO TO BE ABSOLUTELY WASTED AND DROPPED. THINK OF THE POTENTIAL, THE DRAMA, THE CHARACTER GROWTH! But now we will never know.....
was punk hazard arc the last time they met? Loguetown, Alabasta, Punk Hazard, are these the only times they interact with each other? Or did I miss sth? I really want to see them interact again 😭 they look so good together
When we first met her I thought Tashigi would be a worthy rival for Zoro to disprove Kuina’s “women can’t be good at swordplay” bs but man I couldn’t have been more wrong.
when zoro tells to tashigi that she sounds exactly like kuina, i really felt he was about to cry, for a millisecond.
He was about to😢 especially after he said “the way you look like my dead friend”
@@dannyyoroi1955 i felt that bro
Wait, that would hit different if zoro was crying after hearing that line instead of upset about it 😳
Right now I am imagining zoro start crying while saying : "You really reminds me of my friend" and tashigi become confuse, her anger all gone and in the end she forgive him. 😢
he laughed inside cuz Kuina died bc of the damn stair..
Tashigi: Isnt she the Copycat?
Kuina: *literally dead*
*Died from Down D. Stairs💀*
down d stairs 💀
@@Jacob-ldk man wtf 😂😂
@@Jacob-ldk NOOOO
@@Jacob-ldk gravity assisted stairs
The way he was so ready to jump in and protect that random stranger. Zoro is a class act.
as long as you of the same race...
@@typicallystupidperson1273 minority hunter zoro strikes again
Good pirate
@@typicallystupidperson1273 typically stupid comment
@@typicallystupidperson1273 ..........I don't recall Zoro ever acting racist.
Down D Stairs really did a number on Zoro
Nah thats dirty
Naww 😔
Lol
Bro you did Kuina dirty.
💀
Zoro: I doubt I'll see her again
Tashigi: *proceeds to show up all over again*
And again in Alabasta.
And again in Punk Hazard.
And when is the "again" going to happen again? Are you reading the manga? I really want to see them argue again I mean interact 😂☹️
egghead? i dont read manga but they prob there@@ineedtofindmyjams4883
@G0L_D_Fshthats a lot of characters that returned really out of nowhere in one piece. At least tashigi got hinted she would play a big role for one of the main characters considering the stabilished connection, but she actually ended up heavily sidelined because theres just too many.
@G0L_D_Fsh this joke is too repeated and i dont even get it, didnt she die from sickness? They retconned that?
As much as I want Kuina to be alive, I really think she's gone. Tashigi just so happens to be a lot like her.
I find it to be very painfully realistic, because sometimes we lose people, and for a long time we wonder what they could've been like if they stayed around. What would they look like, what would they have sounded like? And sometimes we meet someone who reminds us of the person we lost, and it messes with our minds. It makes us angry and sad and brings back the grief tenfold when we thought we grew past it. Why it feels like it's not fair that we stayed, but they left.
You described survivor's guilt perfectly. I've felt it too.
I love your point of view! I've never thought about it, but now I think this would be a good ending... Zoro finding out what really happened to Kuina, why she REALLY died. So we could also learn more about his backstory. I would love to see Zoro emotional once again.
Tashigi isn't Kuina, but she hears her story as well and remembers this scene. I think she and Zoro would become friends after all and she could help him to deal with his grief.
And I am so sorry, for your loss, mates! I wish you strength, your love ones will always be with you!
Well Tashigi is around 2 years older than Zoro same as Kuina,so im not so sure about Tashigi not being kuina.
You are wrong indeed and your comment will soon don't age well. Tashigi is Kuina but she lost her memories
@@ElafMKOfficial. damn
Zoro is going to die, meet Kuina, tell her that he became the best, and when she invites him into heaven, he walks the wrong way and ends up back in the world of the living.
Stop spoiling oda's brain like that
Tbf he already got lost after dying once, at this stage I just think it's par for the course >.>
I'd love if he does die, come back and fail to mention the "field of flowers" that a few of the other Straw Hats mentioned when they nearly died, simply because he got lost and never found it.
Um, did u really read or watch one piece?
@@baobhansith5377 "Um, did u really read or watch one piece? "
🤓☝
I see a lot of people debate on whether Tashigi is actually Kuina or whatever, but personally I like that she's her own person. People die, often times in ways or at times where it's a terrible tragedy, and unfortunately as much as we may hate it, they stay dead. I feel like that aspect is pretty crucial imo.
I tend to believe Tashigi is a reincarnation of Kuina and that’s why Zoro recognizes so much of his friend in her not just because of the resemblance but the parallel similarities in both of them. The one difference I can tell is that Tashigi seems a lot nicer then Kuina.
The thing is that nobody fucking dies in one piece
@@kmaleon930donut d. Ace
@@kmaleon930 Except for in flashbacks, plenty of ppl die in them and pretty brutally at that
Yeah like Sabo, his death was so tragic and to think Luffy lost his 2 brothers…
0:42 this scene .
Sheesh. Zoro got a flash back
Sheeeeeeeeeeesh
@@mobizenwhaaaat7519 go back to the proud family reboot
Huh?
all this to be reminded that he has no money and owes a woman at 300% interest... what a nightmare
After becoming the strongest swordsman, I hope zoro gets 2 tell kuina somehow.
Down. D stairs
@@deviousindividual3820 💀💀
how would zoro speak to kuina is he gonna talk to the stairs 💀
☠️
@@deviousindividual3820 still felt they half assed her death.
Tashigi: ISN'T SHE THE COPYCAT!?!
Kuina in heaven rn: Bitch-
0:21 zoro was really impressed ❤
I've always been a bit disappointed they didn't do more with smoker and Tashigi they had a lot of potential and they were fairly recurring for a while bit now they seem massively beneath the strawhats same with koby and Helempo honestly.
smoker is gone
dude weak af
@@aimanimran3010 dude seriously needs a buff update
@AJ-lq3jz nah as someone who got into OP in wano, pre TS is just better.
Well , after the latest chapter smoker is back 😎
たしぎを斬らないところはやっぱりゾロの優しいところだ😊
斬らないっていうより斬れないが正しいかも
くいなと重なってしまって
@@ピカットチャン
ごめんなさい！くいなを思い出したから斬れなかったとも言えますね！
If Zoro fought Tashigi without hesitation, he must've thought that there was no way that his friend was still alive until she started speaking like Kuina. Her fighting skills didn't change that much if she really is still alive and Zoro improved alot to the point he couldn't remember Kuina's swordfighting skills from their days of childhood. I doubt that he'd recognize her swordsman skills with that thick head he's carrying on his shoulders.
Bro oda is planning this out, if tashigi really is just some random marine girl who is coincidentally a swordsman like kuina, why is she crossing paths with zoro specifically.
To troll
I mean is possible, but her similar appereance might have importance in the future for strong emotional moments. When you think about it, Tashigi is the only person that has been capable to pull Zoros past back to reality. What if they have one final clash or Tashigi witness Zoro doing a feat of great swordsmanship and Tashigi says something like "hate to admit it, you are the greatest swordsman in the world" and in that moment Zoro can have an internal emotional moment of how Kuina would think of him and maybe give him a come back line like "Dont say it if you havent try yet".
@@cristinasandoval8541 That's quite possible
You're telling me that Oda makes 2 characters interact when they share something in common? You're a friggin genius bro
I honestly thought he already forgot about Tashigi
these freaking stairs have caused too much drama... yet again thats how powerful and influencial a yonko is
imagine what their island would be like
@@auroralaluna A stair
I've read somewhere abt kuina's theory that the meaning of falling the stairs in japanese means suicide.. for anime show this is sensitive for viewers.
@@phoenixdown018zoro literally promised to one day one of them being the strongest swordsman, why would she commit suicide
@@tetrahedronal2829she was told by her father that women couldn’t be master swordsmen. If she did commit suicide, then it’s possible she made that promise to zoro to allow herself to dream for a bit. (she viewed zoro as still a kid, so he would be naive to how the world worked. )
Imagine the real story behind Kuina's death was that she fell down the stairs, got amnesia and was kidnapped or sold to the marines by someone like the dojo dude who was her father? Its unlikely, I know but not impossible if they actually wanted to preserve her for another time.
Accrding to the recent chapter, she was killed by Dr. Vegapunk.
@@bryanandujar3683 so she was a failed test clone? That's even more fucked...and here I thought Vegapunk might actually be a good guy but this bish in the World Government playin' god...or at least playing with the natural order under a real god.
@@bryanandujar3683 What
@@bryanandujar3683 damn
I thought falling down the stairs was a euphemism for killing yourself
なんだかんだ言うて仲の良い二人笑笑
They say Kuina fell down some stairs, but something tells me that something else happened to her, and the sensei lied about it.
Yeah the teacher didn’t shed a single tear when his daughter died
falling down the stairs is a way to saying that she committed suicide, to avoid "disgrace" in japan
@@chongustin7341 But why would she kill herself
@@attilamert6973 probably because of what she’s talking about at 1:21
@@attilamert6973 she said girls can never be swordsman and as strong as swordsman
"Are you not taking me seriously because I'm a woman?"
Zoro, remembering his backstory: *FUCKING TRIGGERED*
Zoro turned back and was about to leave as if he actually knows the direction he's heading towards. Lmao.
I miss these animations.😭😭
Im with you
Same
It's this style
I mean the character designer it's from somehome
@@djmarsone5209 this style is really great. what's somehome?
This woman has no idea how much her face triggers Zoro.
The sky cried for Zoro
Oda sure loves fucking with Zoro:
- Bad sense of directions
- Narcoleptic
- A literal lookalike of his dead childhood rival/love interest probably
- Took away his eye & refuses to tell us why or how
Its a shame tashigi is not a major character
😔💜
Yeah she’s actually one of the more interesting women in one piece. I actually like her more than nami XD
@@7arb-f-15 yes especially when she changed her body with smoker
@@Drzee-ow9bd 💀
Zoro was 100% crying in that rain. We just couldn't tell
Zoro is my favorite straw hat hands down.
I'm calling it as I always have, this is Kuina, and she never died... or maybe she did but through Dr. Vegapunk or some devil fruit she ate herself and doesn't know or... someone else ate and used on her to revive her but at the cost of her memory... because she is way to similar and says way to Familiar things to be someone else completely.
"I doubt I'll ever see her again."
(proceeds to do nothing but see her again)
There was a chapter where the revolutionary army went to Shimotsuki village around the time that Kuina "died" They were shown to be on their ship at shimotsuki treating someone injured. So my personal theory is that Kuina either A lost her memory, because she really did fall down some damn stairs. Or B she has had her memory altered. Either way, Kuina is now a Revolutionary double agent who has infiltrated the Marines. She is a sleeper cell and has no memory of any past life aside from that of Tashigi. Tashigi in japanese means "the common snipe" In western culture and literature there is a pervasive joke referred to as a "snipe hunt" In this joke you trick someone into searching for a creature or object which does not exist. In many cases a Snipe. While there is a european bird called a Snipe they are not related.
Long story short. Oda sent us on a 25 year snipe hunt. Tashigi is in fact Kuina whether she knows it or not.
But Oda already confirmed that it’s not her.
And in the early episode, we did see the corpse of kuina.. soooo..yeah.. your point dont add up..
Yeah towel over face. Totally dead. being guarded by three dudes who we have never seen before.
يمكن
The person that the revolutionary was treating was Sabo, not Kuina.
Oda tried to cook smtg with her but forgot the recipe halfway
I wonder how their Zoro and Tashigi's convo will go now that Zoro has Enma.
"Cause sometimes i look in her eyes.."
"And that's where I find..."
A glimpse of us.
💜
oh shit...the song perfectly fits the scene
Holy shot Joji ❤
海軍と口喧嘩するほど仲が良いタシギとゾロ
Zoro sees kuina*. Knowing Oda, there is not way in hell this is a coincidence
I don't think Kuina is still alive, but I believe Tashigi is related to her to some extent, that would explain why the two are so similar.
I think tashigi is kuina and acting as a noob in ,swordfight, she have a fruit which can change her genetics and she is mihawk, she helps zoro progress while being tashigi and checks the progress while being mihawk😅😅
Zoro's most vulnerable point....
0:22 no words needed for the expression zoro is giving
Tashigi talking abouy Kuina being the copycat
Kuina: "man i'm dead 💀"
Tashigi - Let me show you how she fell. 😂
I guess both tashigi and kuina also share similar clumsy side.. like how tashigi just randomly slipped and fell off, but luckyly not on the stairs
Tashigi: "Glasses...I can't see without my glasses"
Franky: "Glasses...I can't be seen without my glasses"
Yo imagine if tashigi was kuinas sister
When Zoro had a personality. I miss old One Piece...
fr. he’s low key boring now
@@ren4308 most people like Zoros new "badass" version this Zoro was way better for me
He’s literally still the same
@@supermcduper218 bro your watching 2 piece
Zoro went from a charector who actually had emotions to a killer machine
he lost emotion after baratie, what are you guys on
tashigi is kuina she just fell from the stairway to heaven and went back to the world
Seriously, the fact that the question is STILL unanswered is...
Ridiculous.
After seeing a manga spoiler, I now have reason to believe Zoro’s childhood friend and Tashigi are both the result of some scientific experiment or may have simply been long lost twins.
I have been shipping it hardcore for years. It was my first One Piece ship and is truly the only one that really matters. If it never really becomes canon, I will be heartbroken.
We all know destiny is a huge theme in One Piece and it definitely feels like they are destined to be together.
Usopp and Kaya is probably the most likely Will happen
@@anwpecirotan that is if oda remembers about her still
who cares lmao
@@pn7600 more people than there would be to care about your suicide
It’s not likely unless Tashigi is actually Kuina somehow
Tashigi is so clumsy, yet she didn't die falling down the stairs...
Down D. Stairs
Zoro is just trying to protect his memory which might looked like exist because of tashigi, cause she just looked and tell things exactly like kuina.
たしぎさん可愛い
1:12 - Well..😏
_Zoro sees Kuina in Tashigi._
_All I wanna see is Zoro in Tashigi._
Pause
HUUUH???
Nah hold up let em cook
Tashigi is the only women zoro will never cut.
He loves Tashigi, but, their love can never be. For what it's worth, at least he has the respect of her "father" (Smoker)
Cant wait for season 2 one piece live action
I felt that “EEEGGIA!” Sounds so familiar 🥰
Tashigi: Why aren’t you finishing me off?!
Zoro: because your not a minority
She also can't walk straight just like Kuina 💀
That’s so wrong
dawg you murdered her 💀💀💀💀
tf u talking about corpses can't even stand
@@urbainleverrier1 mot anymore at least 💀
I really hope that Tashigi and zoro clash and there both on par in the end otherwise I feel like they wasted Tashigi being basically Kuina
I hope they add this scene in OPLA s2
I don't care what Oda says - Taishigi is going to end up being Kuina in some way. He's trolling us all and we just haven't caught on yet.
nahhh that's Kuina, she fell off the stairs and beat her head and gone amnesia like Goku, no way that's just another character they're literally the same
最終話で一緒になって欲しい二人………☺️
I think tashigi is the only one in one piece who knows about kuina? Even luffy doesn't know about it, does he?? I mean, why do I feel like this is only first and last time zoro talked about kuina with others.
no, you are correct he hides her existence. He doesn't like to talk about at all.
Zoro also talked about it to Mihawk.
@@6fingers_gaming wait what. Is this when they had a duel?
@@gziki3332 year timeskip training
@@urbainleverrier1 nani?
Those stairs were OP as hell.
Tashigi way of speaking is more formal than Kuina, I think that's their only difference lol.
At 0:48 if you listen closely it sounds like discords notification sound lmao
普段冷静なゾロがここまでムキになるのたしぎとサンジくらいだよねｗｗ（特にたしぎはくいなとの共通点が多すぎるし；；）
I really want to know the lore reason as to why Tashigi looks like Kuina. Theres is no way Oda made her that way without a reason!
Down D Stairs if she saws Tashigi 👁👄👁
* My theory about Kuina*
Kuina was kidnapped to the world government and Dr. Vegapunk did something to her and made her forget her past and made her live with a different name and work for the Navy. And the reason maybe because they feared she could be a huge problem in the future facing her so they made her their ally.
Congrats on awakening your theory theory no mi logia or Zoan whatever you want it to be
@@Superboyptime47575 Thnx bro, but I am a Zoan type
No problem I sincerely meant it cuz ur theory makes alot of sense.
@@Superboyptime47575 appreciate it 🙏🙏
くいなとたしぎでは年齢が違う
Everytime they bump into each other 😅
Why is this just the cutest thing
ONE OF THE GREATEST PLOT THREADS ODA MADE FOR ZORO TO BE ABSOLUTELY WASTED AND DROPPED. THINK OF THE POTENTIAL, THE DRAMA, THE CHARACTER GROWTH! But now we will never know.....
Why didn't you finish me off? because I'm a girl?
zoro "no our whole crew just sucks at killing"
海賊や海軍関係無く会うたびにこの2人よく喧嘩するな💧
She is the only person who can scare ZORO
個人的にはメインヒロイン、なんなら主人公にしたくなるタイプの女性キャラやわ
Zoro is in love with her😂
My boy zoro has not seen twins before
0:34 「目が無ぇ...目が無ぇ...」
本当に目が無いの怖いｗ
Tashigi is kuina lol😂
was punk hazard arc the last time they met? Loguetown, Alabasta, Punk Hazard, are these the only times they interact with each other? Or did I miss sth? I really want to see them interact again 😭 they look so good together
Is nobody gonna talk about the end?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
tashigi and kuina is bird name in japanese
Both are known as flightless birds.
Zoro and his wife 😁 I ship
Zoro just can't angry at women
That why zoro didn't simp other girl bc he only love kuina🗿
Zoro slang really like yakuza slang 🤣🤣
He doesnt hesitate to cut others but he has a soft thing for tashigi xD
For a world where supernatural and superhuman exist, stairs are the last thing I expect to take life.
When we first met her I thought Tashigi would be a worthy rival for Zoro to disprove Kuina’s “women can’t be good at swordplay” bs but man I couldn’t have been more wrong.
She is probably her cousin.
Happened with me when i saw someone who looked like my middle school friend who moved in highschool only his eyed though since it was during covid
Tashigi was so ready to be a donut😂
Next thing you know down d stairs kills tashigi
When smoker called tashigi, tashigi almost died to down.D.stair