1. Tux On (0:00) 2. Beaujolais Day (5:13) 3. Story from a Thin Wall (10:00) 4. Shadows on the Barley (16:45) 5. Sunset Hill (18:52) 6. Tic-Tac-Toe (23:10) 7. Voice in the Crowd (26:08) 8. Exile on Princes Street (29:34)
C'est comme trouver une "malle perdue" dans un vieux grenier !. Merci beaucoup, et bravo, d'avoir proposé à l'écoute . Les jeunes générations viendront y prendre une leçon ( ou pas !) . Dicton de "vieux con" . Il n'empêche que le groupe a vraiment régalé son public . Quelles qualités de composition(s) pour ce groupe. Ces morceaux, non présents sur albums officiels ( me semble t'il ) sont pourtant au niveau. Quel plaisir d'écouter cette musique en 2024.
@@yanis-dn1ny Ca me fait bien plaisir de lire ça. Je n'ai jamais douté que le public de Marillion est multiple. Le groupe, ayant réussi au fil des années à renouveler son public. Bravo à lui, et à tous les jeunes qui l'écoute.
I had read about Marillion for the first time after buying the March, 1983 KERRANG magazine featuring Fish and Peter Gabriel side by side wearing stage paint with the caption: Progressive Rock, 1973/1983. Another chapter in British Progressive rock for me had just begun!
I know the music was (eventually) released on the Clutching at Straws deluxe edition, but where did the album title and cover art originally come from?
Beyond the anarchies, Marillion denounced the apparent order and the paradoxes of an insensible world. Spiritual, sensory and rebellious, these poets reveals secret impostures, explores serene enjoyments, a world of rekindled dreams🌺🙂
The sound of what could have been. Takes me back to a beautiful time and place. Then she went away. 30 years later we found each other again. We won't let go this time.
First saw Marillion: thirtieth of April 1981. Next seeing Marillion: twenty-fourth of September 2022 (Aylesbury) then thirtieth of September (Hammersmith Odeon). Marillion and Fish gigs beyond count in the interim. Was front row/centre for their first gig at the Royal Albert Hall (2017); Steve H came forward and handed me his white Rickenbacker for five minutes’ safe-keeping so he could line up within the rest of the band for their final bows. I’ve had many in-person moments with the band (and I’m visible in an old gig photo in Mark Kelly’s autobiography), but the Rickenbacker moment was quite something. Greetings to all, from Hertfordshire.
First saw 'Marillion' before they'd lost the 'Sil' and still had Dougie Irvine and a try-out vocalist called Alan - the village hall out by Dinton; effectively just a band practice. So long ago, so clear.
Marillion were never the same after Fish left the band,it was never the same and that is when I stopped listening to them,this is excellent stuff many thanks.
Yes, of course, marillion would be different without fish . That goes without saying, but to me , i had 2 great artists to listen to when fish left . I adore fish's solo music and I still adore marillions music . @aminmalik4086
80's Marillion don't have a bad song...... I own everything from the band's discography, so most of these tracks I'm already familiar with...... loved "Tux On" for years now
Nothing they ever put out seemed to match that 1st album, it has a feel to the music that comes from a special place. When I saw the Pink Floyd album laying on the Jester's floor and the lyrics to The Beatles song 'Yesterday' laying on his violin case, I knew that 'Script For A Jester's Tear' was going to be Good!
Первый альбом, любовь навсегда, остальное творчество не впечатлило, разве что ,, Анорокнофобия,, два простят меня фанаты группы. В моей коллекции 7 альбомов. Первый жемчужина прогрока,
....🦉.... Bonjour a vous tous ! 👍..a mon avis, Si Tux On ! A été rematerise' e 1999 ? Soit a L'époque de la Séparation, il est impossible que ( LOST FAITH) ait été l'album de Base, de ( CLUTCHING at STRAWS) ! Et Toujours pour moi , ( LOST FAITH) a été le 5eme Album de MARILLION.with FISH.( inédit) ou a ( Sortir+ tard ) ! Je ne Connais pas cet'Album ! 🦆 Mais je le Trouve Super ! BRAVO et MERCI 🏅💐 DEAKY ! 👍
Noch nie gehört! Dabei bin ich soooo viele Jahre Marillionfan with Fish gewesen . Wir hatten das große Glück, Fish während seiner Solokarriere begleiten zu dürften. The Company Germany. Wir waren ein Teil davon. Fish ist ein echt toller Mensch...wenn er auch heute ohne🦷🦷🦷🦷🦷 auftritt. Wir sind zusammen älter und nicht schöner geworden🙋♂️🙋♀️🤟💞😻!
You can recognise here some of the music that ended up on Seasons Ends the first Marillion album after Fish's departure and some of the lyrics that ended up on first Fish's solo album. Each party went away with their own bits... Maybe it's easy to say when you know the history of the split and the 2 distinctive albums that came out of it, but i personally feel that this does not jell properly. The 2 separate albums that both parties released each on their own are probably better albums - at least this is how it sounds to me - than what the result would have been of the 5th Marillion album with Fish. I think after Misplaced childhood and Clutching at straws the benchmark was too high. Something had to change. The rest is history...
These are just demo versions, and are included as such in the deluxe edition of Clutching at Straws. I'm sure the final versions would have been just as good as anything on Vigil or Season's End, had Fish stayed to make a 5th album.
Youe not alone . Just feels that way. The more things change ect .. were not allowed to be men anymore.not allowed to aproach wimen( youre a creep)were at the bottom of the ladder.on the way out . Time to talk/network and come out of the shadows..be what were meant to be.nice to know were not livin la vida solokeep in touch my freind.
How s it goin buddy ? Mamaged too wreck pretty much A bad week. Smashed both me and ma ebike, several roken ribs alsoc5. So slowly tryin t o weld myself back to, also theres a warrant out for me for missin a court date,lots of pain, being hunted by the authorities, for absolute none sense, gear they found wSnt eve. Mine. I think the di ks lpanted it to justify entry to my home ,on the pretect that they are concerned for my health , i had a wee seisure in the close and nosey upstairs, mustve foned y The.m. s umbags .love ya, mi ght be gone for 6 18 months (agzin,) keep in tou h . .. do you have my e mail address?stay possitive n make a connection...c
Thanks for showing this - like the other 40-year Marillion listeners I was surprised and shocked to find this. Is it an album that can be bought as an album, or a bonus disc from a box set, please? It sounds like a blend of Fish-era Marillion and Fish solo material with the same sparse sound in places that I experienced when I listened to Fish solo albums in the early 90's. But there are enough hints of Misplaced and Clutching plus distinctive Rothery and Kelly sounds to make this grow on you!
It's easy to understand while listening to all that, Bob Ezrin (producer, Pink Floyd, Alice Cooper, Peter Gabriel...) in July 1988 wasn't impressed at all. And in hindsight, you can tell that Ezrin would/could not be the producer of the "ghost album" (aka Marillion's fifth album with Fish that would never exist).
@@ColinLeonard-wb3rk. Wow. Never heard that before. And so true! Entering this wretched world a male Super Empath has been nothing short of a nightmarish existence. Life? No. Only existence. And one I’ve long been sooooooo tired of…. One of the few bright spots in said existence has been prog music; with Marillion and Fish near the top of the list. Thanks for your post. Very meaningful to me, in a melancholic way.
Marillion biography Formed in 1979 in Aylesbury, UK (as Silmarillion, after the Tolkien novel) - Still active as of 2019 Pioneers of the second wave of progressive rock The Early Years After some early line-up changes, the first recognisable incarnation of the band was complete by 1982, with FISH (real name Derek William Dick), a charismatic Scottish frontman vocalist, Steve ROTHERY on guitars, Peter Trewavas on bass, Mark Kelly on keyboards, and Mick Pointer on drums. The band built their reputation the old-fashioned way by gigging extensively, but their profile was also raised by some clever manipulation of the music press, especially journals such as Sounds, in which Fish often interviewed his proposition that the band were "prog with attitude", a new force for the post-punk era. This profile landed them a record deal with EMI records, and, in 1982, they released an EP Market Square Heroes, which, it is fair to say, had more than a passing resemblance to the Genesis classic, The Knife. Also appearing was a monster prog track called Grendel. However, it was the release in 1983 of their debut long player, Script For A Jester's Tear, which brought them to the wider attention of the rock world. The album spawned hit singles in Garden Party and He Knows You Know, was critically well received, and reached number 7 in the UK album charts. The band's progress and workload were relentless after this point. They proved themselves to be somewhat merciless in the pursuit of musical and commercial success by ditching Pointer, who was felt to be sub-standard, and replacing him eventually with, after what the band described as their "Spinal Tap" period for drumming, Ian Mosley, formerly of The Steve Hackett Band. Pointer went on to jointly form Arena, a classic neo outfit who still record today, and still tours his Script era version of Marillion. The difference Mosley made, though, both live and in the studio, was palpable. The line-up released three more albums; Fugazi, Misplaced Childhood, and, finally Clutching At Straws. Misplaced Childhood was a massive hit, reaching number 1 in the UK charts in 1985, and responsible for huge hit singles in Kayleigh, Lavender, and Heart of Lothian. By this time, Fish had ditched his trademark face paint, - the music and his sheer personality were a tour de force in themselves, with no need any longer for gimmicks or theatrics. This spell of activity culminated in a huge open-air gig in front of tens of thousands at Milton Keynes Bowl, supported by, amongst others, Jethro Tull, themselves no strangers to large concerts. Clutching At Straws was released in 1987, and was an altogether darker affair, inspired by colossal drink and drug use by Fish, in particular, and discussing the many complex personal issues that brought. The relentless touring continued, and EMI were eager for the band to release a quick follow up. The pressure of this was too much, and in 1988, Fish left the band to embark on a solo career which, it is fair to say, had mixed success. The Hogarth Years For many acts, losing such a charismatic and important frontman and lyricist would spell the death knell. Not, however, for Marillion. In 1989, they announced to the world that Steve HOGARTH, a vocalist formerly with little known The Europeans, would be Fish's replacement. It is a little-known irony that Fish, when appearing on a BBC personality programme discussing his favourite music tracks, had actually played a Europeans single whilst still with Marillion. It is a testament to this inspired choice that the band have recorded and toured constantly, with latterly increasing success again, with the self-same line-up for (at the time of updating this biography) 28 years, an incredible achievement. The debut album released by the line-up was Season's End, released in 1989. Much of the music had been recorded prior to Hogarth's arrival, and it showed. It charted, though, at a respectable number 7 in the UK. The follow up, Holidays in Eden, was, perhaps understandably, criticised by fans and the press alike, as a misplaced attempt to create a commercial rock album driven by the desire to have hits. Whilst it did not bomb, also reaching number 7 in the charts, it certainly did not sell in the numbers of its predecessors, and the band found themselves playing to (admittedly ultra-loyal fans attending) mid-size venues of 3,000 such as Wolverhampton Civic Hall, rather than the larger arenas of the late Fish era. The band fought back, though, releasing in 1994 (three years after Holidays) the seminal concept album, Brave. The lyrics behind the music were inspired by a story Hogarth heard on local radio concerning a young lady who had committed suicide by leaping from Bristol Suspension Bridge. Although obviously dark and brooding almost throughout, the album was a statement of intent by a band determined to plough their own furrow in the music world. In later years, the album has been critically praised, and it also spawned a rather arty film of the same name. EMI, though, dropped the band, and the final album released with the label at the time was Afraid of Sunlight, released in 1995. It only reached number 16 in the UK charts, and sold relatively poorly. It was not much compensation when, upon reviewing the album on release, Q Magazine pronounced boldly that if any other band than Marillion had released this work, it would be a monster hit worldwide. At this time, prog had a bad name again, and the band suffered because of it. Further, more than one member of the band has wondered what would have been had they renamed themselves upon Hogarth's joining. There has been some wonderful recognition of the storytelling and emotional music inherent in the album when the family of Donald Campbell, famously killed in an accident on Coniston Water in a speed record attempt, following the discovery of his body in 2001, asked the band to perform Out of this World, a track from the album inspired by Campbell, at a memorial service. Marillion signed for Castle Records, and went on to record three albums with them, these being This Strange Engine, Radiation, and Marillion.com. The band, though, became increasingly unhappy with the poor marketing strategy, and lack of understanding of the music, by their record company, and they parted ways, with no real prospect of a new deal anywhere else in prospect. Once again, the band found themselves on the cusp of disaster. Disaster was averted, as Marillion set the template for all the crowd funded, internet based, music recording that is so widespread in the second decade of the millennium. Put simply, they asked their fans, still incredibly loyal, to fund the recording of Anoraknophobia before even a note had been recorded. 12,000 fans responded, EMI agreed to distribute it, and survival, on the band's terms, was ensured. This incredibly far sighted decision was not just the beginning of a return to relative commercial success, but also the template for many other more niche acts to follow. Marbles, released in 2004, a very well received album with genuine classic progressive tracks, had its marketing funded by the fans, but also had a double cd not commercially available to those who pre-ordered. Again, it was a tremendous success, and the band even enjoyed a return to the top ten singles charts with You're Gone, even if an appearance on Top of the Pops was denied them. At the time of writing this biography in 2017, the band have released five more albums, all with increasing commercial success, and continuing to use the fanbase as the model for funds and publicity, together with a more sympathetic press tiring of overtly rubbish commercial pop music. In 2016, the album F.E.A.R. (the acronym being f**k Everyone And Run) was released to large critical acclaim, and marked a return to overtly political lyrics and anger not really witnessed since the halcyon days of Fish ranting against war and Thatcherism in equal measure. It caught the zeitgeist of the times extremely well, that of a tired world increasingly bewildered by greed, corruption, poverty, the loss of traditional England, and an inability by the country's (and world's) politicians to deal with such issues effectively. It peaked at number 4 in the UK charts, having been funded by a Pledge Music campaign, and in October 2017 the band achieved a lifetime ambition of playing live at London's Royal Albert Hall. Tickets sold out within three minutes of being on sale. Marillion can be said to epitomise the tradition of progressive rock, playing, at times, incredibly complex music, but with an attitude and ethos wholly grounded alongside their fanatical fanbase. People reading this biography should not be fooled, or put off, by the neo-prog label attributed to them on this site. Marillion are far more than that, and they proclaim it very proudly. Steve Lazenby (Lazland) - 2017
Gab vor ~15 Jahren Remastered Versionen mit je einer Bonus-CD. Das hier gehört zur Clutching at Straws und enthält Arbeitsstände zum 5. Album mit Fish vor der Trennung. Einiges der Texte und Musik findet man dann etwas verändert beiderseits auf den nachfolgenden Alben wieder wie bei einem Blick vom Hügel… 🙂
@@ThirdfishI preferred them working together, but I did enjoy their first albums after the split, "Season's End" & "Vigil in a wilderness of mirrors". After that, I wasn't really enjoying what they put out nearly as much. I think it was a combination of having split, and the drastically changing of times in the early 90s with a focus by the record companies to hate the 80s sound and drastically try to get away from it. I loved the 80s sound personally, and was not a fan of most of the crap rock albums produced in the 90s.
@@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 I couldn't get on with Hogarth on vocals at all, even now I can't. Fish's solo stuff has been hit and miss to be fair but for me has produced better albums. I watch his show every Friday for 4 years and reminded me how good some of that solo stuff was at the time I wasn't into anything after Suits, glad to have been reacquainted after all this time now I am much older. Try them.
Is there any other material from the Fish Marillion other than the first four albums and this great stuff? Would be so pleased to hear about it. Thank you!
Don't forget Marillion B-Sides Themselves, the album which collects all the various non album songs..it is a must-have and stands solidly as another Fish era album.
@@kenwooster5282 Thank you for that. Funnily enough, I came across B-sides a week or so ago and forgot that I had posted my original comment. Yes, B-Sides Themselves is great too. It seems that Fish Marillion just couldn't go wrong! Sadly, I just can't get on much with their later post-Fish material. Anyway, thanks again, Ken. I listened to some of your Dr Woo material, btw, great stuff!
Thanks for uploading this gem, was, and still am, a big fan of clutching at straws, this side has a slight sound of the earlier script for a jesters tear, long live prog rock.
Thank you !!!. Listening to this. Music I feel like we've been friends for a long time, You are totally an awesome Person !!. I'm a drummer, I'm definitely understanding the message .
When I read your comment I could have sworn I heard them play Nina live - I can even remember Fish's intro to the song. Truth of it was I heard Fish play it on 27/7/92 post break-up at the Bristol Bierkellar with a band which included Diz Minnett if I can stretch memory back thirty years. Set List fm to the rescue. Thanks for reminding me. So you're right Marillion haven't played Lady Nina live.
Also, there's elements of these tracks that already sound like a bit of a parody of themselves, which after just four albums isn't good. I think a change of personnel was definitely good for their longevity....
These tracks are available on disc 4 of the Clutching at Straws deluxe edition, and are clearly marked as demos. These tracks, therefore cannot represent what the final versions would have been, had Fish stayed with Marillion for a 5th album.
1. Tux On (0:00)
2. Beaujolais Day (5:13)
3. Story from a Thin Wall (10:00)
4. Shadows on the Barley (16:45)
5. Sunset Hill (18:52)
6. Tic-Tac-Toe (23:10)
7. Voice in the Crowd (26:08)
8. Exile on Princes Street (29:34)
I need this album. ❤👍🎸
love it
Was this a "oficial release"?
Is this what was supposed to be the album following Clutching at straws, but what was never to be, due to the leaving of Fish, late 1988?
Kk
Something wonderful! It's like discovering a new room in a house you've lived in for 30 years. Thanks!
That was deep !
C'est comme trouver une "malle perdue" dans un vieux grenier !. Merci beaucoup, et bravo, d'avoir proposé à l'écoute . Les jeunes générations viendront y prendre une leçon ( ou pas !) . Dicton de "vieux con" . Il n'empêche que le groupe a vraiment régalé son public . Quelles qualités de composition(s) pour ce groupe. Ces morceaux, non présents sur albums officiels ( me semble t'il ) sont pourtant au niveau. Quel plaisir d'écouter cette musique en 2024.
la jeune génération te répond qu'on écoute pas tous que de la merde (on est pas beaucoup)
@@yanis-dn1ny Ca me fait bien plaisir de lire ça. Je n'ai jamais douté que le public de Marillion est multiple. Le groupe, ayant réussi au fil des années à renouveler son public. Bravo à lui, et à tous les jeunes qui l'écoute.
C'est extraordinaire
Que dire de marillion avec fish la perfection rien de plus. Un vrai régal
Steve Rothery's guitar tone is just perfect
Exactly! My favorite guitar solo of all times is on sugar mice.
Love love. Marillion = Fish
Sometimes I listen to Marillion and go back to where I had the time of my life at 35.Thank you for this.
thank you for this post
I had read about Marillion for the first time after buying the March, 1983 KERRANG magazine featuring Fish and Peter Gabriel side by side wearing stage paint with the caption: Progressive Rock, 1973/1983.
Another chapter in British Progressive rock for me had just begun!
Thank you for this. Sometimes it's just nice to hear material I had forgotten, Even better,
songs I've never heard before
Thanks for this...
"The leading light of desteny, burning in the ashes of your memories......"
Marillion give me Always Hope,in goodness,the best group ever Heard!!!
Fish at his prime. Sound is excellent. What more can you ask for. Thanks DEAKY. Never heard this before. GBG NO EDITS.
I know the music was (eventually) released on the Clutching at Straws deluxe edition, but where did the album title and cover art originally come from?
Thank you, this is the first time I'm listening to this album. I've never heard about this album before....Good job!!!
Beyond the anarchies, Marillion denounced the apparent order and the paradoxes of an insensible world. Spiritual, sensory and rebellious, these poets reveals secret impostures, explores serene enjoyments, a world of rekindled dreams🌺🙂
Everyday I listen to FISH. The best Poet of all time. Thank you so much for all the nice Lyrics.
He was/is an amazing Scottish poet but Hogarth kept the band going all these years after Fish left.
@@johnnyenglish9622 🤝
I met Fish in a bar in Columbus Ohio. Of all the "rock stars" I've met, that was the greatest thrill.
'the poor, misguided, directionless familiar of some obscure Scottish poet'
@@johnnyenglish9622 some great albums like Brave, Afraid Of Sunlight, Marbles and FEAR
The sound of what could have been. Takes me back to a beautiful time and place. Then she went away. 30 years later we found each other again. We won't let go this time.
Sadly I can't wait for 30 years for my lost love to return. I'll probably be long dead by then.
Absolutely fantastic, boys. So miss these guys,,, just beautiful music that gives ya bumps and fills you with energy. Magic just magic... 😊❤👌🇬🇧🇬🇧
You miss them? You do realise they are still around and releasing fantastic music?
First saw Marillion: thirtieth of April 1981. Next seeing Marillion: twenty-fourth of September 2022 (Aylesbury) then thirtieth of September (Hammersmith Odeon). Marillion and Fish gigs beyond count in the interim. Was front row/centre for their first gig at the Royal Albert Hall (2017); Steve H came forward and handed me his white Rickenbacker for five minutes’ safe-keeping so he could line up within the rest of the band for their final bows. I’ve had many in-person moments with the band (and I’m visible in an old gig photo in Mark Kelly’s autobiography), but the Rickenbacker moment was quite something. Greetings to all, from Hertfordshire.
First saw 'Marillion' before they'd lost the 'Sil' and still had Dougie Irvine and a try-out vocalist called Alan - the village hall out by Dinton; effectively just a band practice. So long ago, so clear.
Maravillosa experiencia amigo!.
that "singer", whatever his name, the one who joined Marillion when Fish left- it is the worst thing that happened to that great band.
@@donatelo4466 The worst thing was Fish leaving. H didn't join until months after that.
They'll never be a better band than Marillion-ever. This sounds awesome. Nice one 😊
Try Magic Pie The Suffering Joy, that album will rock your socks off.
OMG guitar in family business just makes me want to cry ,so beautiful and emotional .
Wonderfull, good old days. 😊🎸
Marillion were never the same after Fish left the band,it was never the same and that is when I stopped listening to them,this is excellent stuff many thanks.
Indeed, no longer the same Marillion, but I find you harsh because Marillion after fish is still very good!
@@laterredumilieuif you say so.... can't listen to them anymore without Fish
Yes, of course, marillion would be different without fish . That goes without saying, but to me , i had 2 great artists to listen to when fish left . I adore fish's solo music and I still adore marillions music . @aminmalik4086
@@aminmalik4086how would you know if you don't listen to it? They have evolved with every album. Still the best live band.
Just look at it that it's a different band. Ignore the name and just listen to the music with your ears and mind open, it might surprise you.
Muito obrigado por compartilhar essas pérolas do Marillion da fase com o Fish.
Sou de Santos de e vc é de onde?
Marillion come from the heard
80's Marillion don't have a bad song...... I own everything from the band's discography, so most of these tracks I'm already familiar with...... loved "Tux On" for years now
"There's a photo on the mantlepiece when you bought your first guitar Steve Rothery"
Indeed! The B-Sides were amazing. Cinderella Search, Lady Nina, Freaks etc. ❤
grande banda, grande guitarrista talvez um dos menos lembrados
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Этого альбома нет в официальной дискографии, приятно познакомиться с ещё одной жемчужиной, до сих пор для меня первый альбом самый самый любимый
Nothing they ever put out seemed to match that 1st album,
it has a feel to the music that comes from a special place.
When I saw the Pink Floyd album laying on the Jester's floor
and the lyrics to The Beatles song 'Yesterday' laying on his violin case,
I knew that 'Script For A Jester's Tear' was going to be Good!
@@witeskyn7 yeah troo dat,c
Первый альбом, любовь навсегда, остальное творчество не впечатлило, разве что ,, Анорокнофобия,, два простят меня фанаты группы. В моей коллекции 7 альбомов. Первый жемчужина прогрока,
Yeah totally agree, by far the best,
Thanks for this, why is this not the 5th album of the Fish-era?
Didn't even know that this album existed shows how much of a fan I thought I was 😂
Another Marillion's beautiful album, thanks.
....🦉.... Bonjour a vous tous ! 👍..a mon avis, Si Tux On ! A été rematerise' e 1999 ? Soit a L'époque de la Séparation, il est impossible que ( LOST FAITH) ait été l'album de Base, de ( CLUTCHING at STRAWS) ! Et Toujours pour moi , ( LOST FAITH) a été le 5eme Album de MARILLION.with FISH.( inédit) ou a ( Sortir+ tard ) ! Je ne Connais pas cet'Album ! 🦆 Mais je le Trouve Super ! BRAVO et MERCI 🏅💐 DEAKY ! 👍
Wow, 😣 ist das das letzte Album von Marillion mit Fish???
His last album was Clutching at Straws 1987. Prost!
Noch nie gehört! Dabei bin ich soooo viele Jahre Marillionfan with Fish gewesen . Wir hatten das große Glück, Fish während seiner Solokarriere begleiten zu dürften. The Company Germany. Wir waren ein Teil davon. Fish ist ein echt toller Mensch...wenn er auch heute ohne🦷🦷🦷🦷🦷 auftritt. Wir sind zusammen älter und nicht schöner geworden🙋♂️🙋♀️🤟💞😻!
I've been a fan they not that good with out fish but still ace band
You can recognise here some of the music that ended up on Seasons Ends the first Marillion album after Fish's departure and some of the lyrics that ended up on first Fish's solo album. Each party went away with their own bits...
Maybe it's easy to say when you know the history of the split and the 2 distinctive albums that came out of it, but i personally feel that this does not jell properly. The 2 separate albums that both parties released each on their own are probably better albums - at least this is how it sounds to me - than what the result would have been of the 5th Marillion album with Fish. I think after Misplaced childhood and Clutching at straws the benchmark was too high. Something had to change. The rest is history...
These are just demo versions, and are included as such in the deluxe edition of Clutching at Straws. I'm sure the final versions would have been just as good as anything on Vigil or Season's End, had Fish stayed to make a 5th album.
Thanks so much for bringing this here. Excellent stuff.
Aren’t these all just the tracks from the second disc of the 98 remaster?
Glad you for this brilliant upload.
Incredible wonderful
tak ta plyta to prawdziwy marillion,super muza.
Wszystkie z fishem😂
Muito bom!!👏🏼👏🏼
Youe not alone . Just feels that way. The more things change ect .. were not allowed to be men anymore.not allowed to aproach wimen( youre a creep)were at the bottom of the ladder.on the way out . Time to talk/network and come out of the shadows..be what were meant to be.nice to know were not livin la vida solokeep in touch my freind.
How s it goin buddy ? Mamaged too wreck pretty much A bad week. Smashed both me and ma ebike, several roken ribs alsoc5. So slowly tryin t o weld myself back to, also theres a warrant out for me for missin a court date,lots of pain, being hunted by the authorities, for absolute none sense, gear they found wSnt eve. Mine. I think the di ks lpanted it to justify entry to my home ,on the pretect that they are concerned for my health , i had a wee seisure in the close and nosey upstairs, mustve foned y
The.m. s umbags .love ya, mi ght be gone for 6 18 months (agzin,) keep in tou h . .. do you have my e mail address?stay possitive n make a connection...c
Thanks for showing this - like the other 40-year Marillion listeners I was surprised and shocked to find this. Is it an album that can be bought as an album, or a bonus disc from a box set, please? It sounds like a blend of Fish-era Marillion and Fish solo material with the same sparse sound in places that I experienced when I listened to Fish solo albums in the early 90's. But there are enough hints of Misplaced and Clutching plus distinctive Rothery and Kelly sounds to make this grow on you!
All these songs were available on the bonus disc of the 1999 remastered edition as well as CD 4 of 2018 deluxe box.
I see, thank you.
Eu só conhecia o "Tux On" tenho o Maxi single. O resto está FANTÁSTICO! Atenção: quem gosta dos "Marillos" gosta do Fish e do Hogart
So schön wie in Alten Zeiten 😎
It's easy to understand while listening to all that, Bob Ezrin (producer, Pink Floyd, Alice Cooper, Peter Gabriel...) in July 1988 wasn't impressed at all. And in hindsight, you can tell that Ezrin would/could not be the producer of the "ghost album" (aka Marillion's fifth album with Fish that would never exist).
This band being's back good time's I had when all my friends was alive
The price of empathy a bridge to insanity.
@@ColinLeonard-wb3rk. Wow. Never heard that before. And so true!
Entering this wretched world a male Super Empath has been nothing short of a nightmarish existence. Life? No. Only existence. And one I’ve long been sooooooo tired of….
One of the few bright spots in said existence has been prog music; with Marillion and Fish near the top of the list.
Thanks for your post. Very meaningful to me, in a melancholic way.
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Marillion biography
Formed in 1979 in Aylesbury, UK (as Silmarillion, after the Tolkien novel) - Still active as of 2019
Pioneers of the second wave of progressive rock
The Early Years
After some early line-up changes, the first recognisable incarnation of the band was complete by 1982, with FISH (real name Derek William Dick), a charismatic Scottish frontman vocalist, Steve ROTHERY on guitars, Peter Trewavas on bass, Mark Kelly on keyboards, and Mick Pointer on drums.
The band built their reputation the old-fashioned way by gigging extensively, but their profile was also raised by some clever manipulation of the music press, especially journals such as Sounds, in which Fish often interviewed his proposition that the band were "prog with attitude", a new force for the post-punk era.
This profile landed them a record deal with EMI records, and, in 1982, they released an EP Market Square Heroes, which, it is fair to say, had more than a passing resemblance to the Genesis classic, The Knife. Also appearing was a monster prog track called Grendel.
However, it was the release in 1983 of their debut long player, Script For A Jester's Tear, which brought them to the wider attention of the rock world. The album spawned hit singles in Garden Party and He Knows You Know, was critically well received, and reached number 7 in the UK album charts.
The band's progress and workload were relentless after this point. They proved themselves to be somewhat merciless in the pursuit of musical and commercial success by ditching Pointer, who was felt to be sub-standard, and replacing him eventually with, after what the band described as their "Spinal Tap" period for drumming, Ian Mosley, formerly of The Steve Hackett Band. Pointer went on to jointly form Arena, a classic neo outfit who still record today, and still tours his Script era version of Marillion. The difference Mosley made, though, both live and in the studio, was palpable.
The line-up released three more albums; Fugazi, Misplaced Childhood, and, finally Clutching At Straws.
Misplaced Childhood was a massive hit, reaching number 1 in the UK charts in 1985, and responsible for huge hit singles in Kayleigh, Lavender, and Heart of Lothian. By this time, Fish had ditched his trademark face paint, - the music and his sheer personality were a tour de force in themselves, with no need any longer for gimmicks or theatrics. This spell of activity culminated in a huge open-air gig in front of tens of thousands at Milton Keynes Bowl, supported by, amongst others, Jethro Tull, themselves no strangers to large concerts.
Clutching At Straws was released in 1987, and was an altogether darker affair, inspired by colossal drink and drug use by Fish, in particular, and discussing the many complex personal issues that brought. The relentless touring continued, and EMI were eager for the band to release a quick follow up. The pressure of this was too much, and in 1988, Fish left the band to embark on a solo career which, it is fair to say, had mixed success.
The Hogarth Years
For many acts, losing such a charismatic and important frontman and lyricist would spell the death knell. Not, however, for Marillion.
In 1989, they announced to the world that Steve HOGARTH, a vocalist formerly with little known The Europeans, would be Fish's replacement. It is a little-known irony that Fish, when appearing on a BBC personality programme discussing his favourite music tracks, had actually played a Europeans single whilst still with Marillion.
It is a testament to this inspired choice that the band have recorded and toured constantly, with latterly increasing success again, with the self-same line-up for (at the time of updating this biography) 28 years, an incredible achievement.
The debut album released by the line-up was Season's End, released in 1989. Much of the music had been recorded prior to Hogarth's arrival, and it showed. It charted, though, at a respectable number 7 in the UK.
The follow up, Holidays in Eden, was, perhaps understandably, criticised by fans and the press alike, as a misplaced attempt to create a commercial rock album driven by the desire to have hits. Whilst it did not bomb, also reaching number 7 in the charts, it certainly did not sell in the numbers of its predecessors, and the band found themselves playing to (admittedly ultra-loyal fans attending) mid-size venues of 3,000 such as Wolverhampton Civic Hall, rather than the larger arenas of the late Fish era.
The band fought back, though, releasing in 1994 (three years after Holidays) the seminal concept album, Brave. The lyrics behind the music were inspired by a story Hogarth heard on local radio concerning a young lady who had committed suicide by leaping from Bristol Suspension Bridge. Although obviously dark and brooding almost throughout, the album was a statement of intent by a band determined to plough their own furrow in the music world. In later years, the album has been critically praised, and it also spawned a rather arty film of the same name.
EMI, though, dropped the band, and the final album released with the label at the time was Afraid of Sunlight, released in 1995. It only reached number 16 in the UK charts, and sold relatively poorly. It was not much compensation when, upon reviewing the album on release, Q Magazine pronounced boldly that if any other band than Marillion had released this work, it would be a monster hit worldwide. At this time, prog had a bad name again, and the band suffered because of it. Further, more than one member of the band has wondered what would have been had they renamed themselves upon Hogarth's joining. There has been some wonderful recognition of the storytelling and emotional music inherent in the album when the family of Donald Campbell, famously killed in an accident on Coniston Water in a speed record attempt, following the discovery of his body in 2001, asked the band to perform Out of this World, a track from the album inspired by Campbell, at a memorial service.
Marillion signed for Castle Records, and went on to record three albums with them, these being This Strange Engine, Radiation, and Marillion.com. The band, though, became increasingly unhappy with the poor marketing strategy, and lack of understanding of the music, by their record company, and they parted ways, with no real prospect of a new deal anywhere else in prospect. Once again, the band found themselves on the cusp of disaster.
Disaster was averted, as Marillion set the template for all the crowd funded, internet based, music recording that is so widespread in the second decade of the millennium. Put simply, they asked their fans, still incredibly loyal, to fund the recording of Anoraknophobia before even a note had been recorded. 12,000 fans responded, EMI agreed to distribute it, and survival, on the band's terms, was ensured. This incredibly far sighted decision was not just the beginning of a return to relative commercial success, but also the template for many other more niche acts to follow.
Marbles, released in 2004, a very well received album with genuine classic progressive tracks, had its marketing funded by the fans, but also had a double cd not commercially available to those who pre-ordered. Again, it was a tremendous success, and the band even enjoyed a return to the top ten singles charts with You're Gone, even if an appearance on Top of the Pops was denied them.
At the time of writing this biography in 2017, the band have released five more albums, all with increasing commercial success, and continuing to use the fanbase as the model for funds and publicity, together with a more sympathetic press tiring of overtly rubbish commercial pop music. In 2016, the album F.E.A.R. (the acronym being f**k Everyone And Run) was released to large critical acclaim, and marked a return to overtly political lyrics and anger not really witnessed since the halcyon days of Fish ranting against war and Thatcherism in equal measure. It caught the zeitgeist of the times extremely well, that of a tired world increasingly bewildered by greed, corruption, poverty, the loss of traditional England, and an inability by the country's (and world's) politicians to deal with such issues effectively. It peaked at number 4 in the UK charts, having been funded by a Pledge Music campaign, and in October 2017 the band achieved a lifetime ambition of playing live at London's Royal Albert Hall. Tickets sold out within three minutes of being on sale.
Marillion can be said to epitomise the tradition of progressive rock, playing, at times, incredibly complex music, but with an attitude and ethos wholly grounded alongside their fanatical fanbase. People reading this biography should not be fooled, or put off, by the neo-prog label attributed to them on this site. Marillion are far more than that, and they proclaim it very proudly.
Steve Lazenby (Lazland) - 2017
Excelente trabajo, no lo conocía.!!!
"Story from a Thin Wall" is "Family business" lyrics (Vigil) with "Berlin" music (Season's end)
No hay nada como las bandas de rock de los 80's
The music in song 3. Story from a Thin Wall (10:00) is the same like "Berlin" from "Season End"
🎉 hail Caesar for Steve R. On guitar 🎸▶️ music composer.
Awesome Stuff.. It On 2nd Disc From The 1999 Reissue Of Clutching At Straws..
Esto es mucho más dereck William adelantado 2025 marillion 🌐🇨🇱
marillion with fish le must for me !!!
Marillion sans Fish, ce n'est pas Marillion !
C'est ce grand chanteur, compositeur et leader qui a construit la notoriété du Marillion d'aujourd'hui.
Tux on is the best song. Lady Nina too
Tux On is fab. You can hear the remastering. Outstanding sound!
unglaublich.noch nie von gehört...seh und höre das hier zum ersten mal ausser tux on natürlich
Gab vor ~15 Jahren Remastered Versionen mit je einer Bonus-CD.
Das hier gehört zur Clutching at Straws und enthält Arbeitsstände zum 5. Album mit Fish vor der Trennung.
Einiges der Texte und Musik findet man dann etwas verändert beiderseits auf den nachfolgenden Alben wieder wie bei einem Blick vom Hügel… 🙂
Marillion con Fish , lo mejor grandes musicos , excelente trabajo .
I can hear a lot of what became the Season's End songs on these tracks.
Yeah when they split they took the music and Fish took the lyrics and made them into better songs on his solo releases.
@@ThirdfishI preferred them working together, but I did enjoy their first albums after the split, "Season's End" & "Vigil in a wilderness of mirrors". After that, I wasn't really enjoying what they put out nearly as much. I think it was a combination of having split, and the drastically changing of times in the early 90s with a focus by the record companies to hate the 80s sound and drastically try to get away from it. I loved the 80s sound personally, and was not a fan of most of the crap rock albums produced in the 90s.
@@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 I couldn't get on with Hogarth on vocals at all, even now I can't. Fish's solo stuff has been hit and miss to be fair but for me has produced better albums. I watch his show every Friday for 4 years and reminded me how good some of that solo stuff was at the time I wasn't into anything after Suits, glad to have been reacquainted after all this time now I am much older. Try them.
Marillion and fish, a perfect fit for one another
Is there any other material from the Fish Marillion other than the first four albums and this great stuff?
Would be so pleased to hear about it. Thank you!
Don't forget Marillion B-Sides Themselves, the album which collects all the various non album songs..it is a must-have and stands solidly as another Fish era album.
@@kenwooster5282 Thank you for that. Funnily enough, I came across B-sides a week or so ago and forgot that I had posted my original comment.
Yes, B-Sides Themselves is great too. It seems that Fish Marillion just couldn't go wrong!
Sadly, I just can't get on much with their later post-Fish material.
Anyway, thanks again, Ken. I listened to some of your Dr Woo material, btw, great stuff!
@@alana8863 Thank you!!
são últimos trabalho era Fish no MARILLION!! São pérolas que guarda no meu arcervo Forever living 😊
Stories from a thin wall = family business = Berlin, Exile on Princes street = Internal exile.
Tic-tac-toe became Cover my eyes
The beginnig of track 2 seems the beginning of seasons´end track and close to the end seems warm wet circles. Track Berlin is a copy of track 3
Interesting but I can see why they were reworked or left off main album.
So schön wie in Alten Zeiten 😎 14:58 15:06
Yeah great little play list this one ..great for the car ! Thank you 😊
Dlaczego skończyło się inaczej?
Thanks for uploading this gem, was, and still am, a big fan of clutching at straws, this side has a slight sound of the earlier script for a jesters tear, long live prog rock.
How about supplying a tracklist?
Puede ser esto mejor?.... no !! Esto me suena mas nostálgico que la versión oficial......😍😍😍👋👋👋👋👋
Fish +Marillion THE BEST
Thank you !!!. Listening to this. Music I feel like we've been friends for a long time,
You are totally an awesome
Person !!. I'm a drummer, I'm
definitely understanding the message .
Really enjoying this thank you so so much
Cuando Marillion era una gran banda, y no un grupo que hace "pop de calidad"...
damn, the quality is so crisp
It seems they never played Tux on and Lady Nina live, two of my Marillion favorites. or does anybody know better?
When I read your comment I could have sworn I heard them play Nina live - I can even remember Fish's intro to the song. Truth of it was I heard Fish play it on 27/7/92 post break-up at the Bristol Bierkellar with a band which included Diz Minnett if I can stretch memory back thirty years. Set List fm to the rescue. Thanks for reminding me. So you're right Marillion haven't played Lady Nina live.
I was {7⃣} when the first ⏺ came out a friend we woken the 😪 graint
milei pecho frío y papa frita 😂
Me fume una flor 🌸 me puse los auriculares y escuché un discaso!!!
Gracias Marillion ❤
milei papá frita😂
Fish is just class
Grande produção: sacaram todo o som
Listening to this again, I'm so glad Fish left. The songs that became Seasons End, Berlin & The Release are woefully lacking in melody here.
I agree. It wouldn't be a great album. No doubt it
Also, there's elements of these tracks that already sound like a bit of a parody of themselves, which after just four albums isn't good. I think a change of personnel was definitely good for their longevity....
These tracks are available on disc 4 of the Clutching at Straws deluxe edition, and are clearly marked as demos. These tracks, therefore cannot represent what the final versions would have been, had Fish stayed with Marillion for a 5th album.
The lyrics went with Fish and these are demos.
Marillion forever
❤❤️❤️
🎸🎤🥁🎹=🥇🏆=Marillion=👍👍👍❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
Era 🐟 Simply The Best ⚡️🔥💪👊😎🤘
So schön wie in Alten Zeiten SUPER
excelente grupo, delegado en la sus canciones , rock p.
Guess. I cant get this one
beautiful songs :)
MERCI From France !!!!!
Casi 40 años escuchando marillion, lo mejor de mi vida ,
Awesome
E a descrição das músicas? Eu não as conhecia.
Fish era Marillion was way way better than the Hogarth era...
Dont even listen to hogarth, i think he has a problem with his sinuses ,lol
Hogarth had several top 5 albums with Marillion
Pretty good band either way
@@donovanemery597 so did the spice Girls. That doesn't prove anything..
My first gig 1979 smarillion reading wat a blast
Estas músicas estão no CD 24 Bits do Clutching at strawas do Marilllon.
Então, eu sei disso, eu postei só elas separadas
mas isto existe em álbum ou é uma compilação feita para partilhar aqui no TH-cam?
São inéditas então? Nunca tinha as ouvido. Shoooooooow! Fish é maravilhoso!
Muito obrigado por compartilhar essas pérolas do Marillion da fase Fish.