As someone who was born and raised in the U.S.A. and walking with Christ for over 35 years, I can say this is possibly the best talk I've heard on this subject. Well done, and thank you brother. Be blessed!!
Brilliant talk Glen. The Lord has truly gifted you with great communication skills. It is indeed Jesus or the pit. Praise Him for the gift of salvation. I feel privileged to have received it. Finding a sound biblical church when we move away is on our top priorities. God bless you and your ministry.
Well done. This is exactly what I have been thinking about. I read Tom Holland's book and am also reading yours. We are so close to non-believers because we share 90% of our beliefs (in the West). This is a great encapsulation of the idea. I will have to watch it again....I think there is a new development for evangelism now that more people understand the fundamental nature of belief and faith itself.
Thank you Glen for such a moving and encouraging explanation of low tide evangelism. Thanks too for the Mitchell basketball reference which I found on TH-cam - wonderful!
Lol that’s exactly what I did order a Bible from amazon. I had no idea about versions and it was the King James and I started in Genesis! Six months of falling asleep with the Bible in my hands not getting very far I realised there are easier versions and a friend told me to start with the book of Matthew
😄 If you ever want some help Michael S Heiser and Tim Mackie are two incredible teachers who won't try and force a denomination onto you or make you believe what they believe but will teach the bible in an amazing way that's understandable and deep
@@kateorson4754 Ooooooo that book is sooooo good! It really helped me comprehend the entire biblical story much better when I was just beginning to get into the bible
For a first read of the Bible, I'd recommend the NLT (New Living Translation) or the NIV (New International Version). But, as they say on the BBC in the UK, “Other translations are available”. Options for how to read it without reading from cover to cover would be to search for “chronological Bible study" or “Bible, the history of covenant” (the covenants that God makes with humanity are the overriding theme of the Bible: they are what makes it one book.
Thanks Glen. Lots of food for thought here. I've been to Curio Bay, seen the low tide there, and the penguins and sea lions. Only want to do that in the Summer time. On a full moon, the tide is out a lot more. Be great to see and hear you at Keswick in Rotorua?
Thanks for this Glen. I was saddened to read that in the local Keswick newspaper, Keswick Ministries were reported to be ''saddened' by Brephos pro-life display. Please communicate with their leaders to publicly repent. It's an awful sin to publicly condemn people who were just standing up for the most vulnerable in society and exposing mass genocide. What do you think of this?
And what's more, it's an upbeat look at the low tide. God hardened Pharaoh's heart 10 times. One way to look at it is that God gave Egypt 10 times to repent. What the enemy meant for evil, God uses for good that many might be saved.
Sally's are found in Romans 2:14, humanists who do things in God's law, but are lawless and cannot be judged according to the gospel of Paul, and have no hope of eternity.
"Little seed, you want to be great. Want it now; you've no time to wait. Small and feisty, thinking you're wild and free. I want to make you a tree...." Pm me.
Apple seed, geometric progression. I get it. But if the seed hadn't germinated then... nothing. Not a Christian but I'd prefer a Christian convert over a Muslim one. Maybe a more targeted approach is needed. Where is Muslim proselyting succeeding and why. Address those and perhaps prevent Muslim conversions.
As you know Glen, Joh Bjelke Peterson would say "Don't you worry about that" and then Jane Singleton interviewed Joh and pushed back with "But I am worried about that." Glen says “World domination……The triumph of the people of Jesus is certain, you don’t need to worry about that.” World domination - That’s a political claim. The triumph of the people of Jesus is certain - that’s a political claim. So, what does the politics of that look like Glen because I am worried about that given the authoritarian nature of Abrahamic monotheism? Please explain. Don’t just give us platitudes, give us the political reality of Jesus world domination. Can you do that? Are you prepared to explain how your world domination is going to work politically? There are 8 billion + people in the world. Governing them does not happen by arm waving rhetoric. It requires the reality of a practical political solution. What practical political solution do you have on offer that is better than the inclusive Secular Humanist Liberal Social Democracy we currently live under in the UK and Australia? Remember your own advice to follow the injunctions of 1 Peter 3:15 I choose SHLSD because it is the inclusive ordering principle that has best supplied us with freedom, compassion, equality, consent, science, enlightenment and progress, compared to the other ordering principles humans have tried and SHLSD is so far ahead of the exclusive authoritarianism of Christian theocracy that there is no contest. Human rights are political. Democracy is political. If you cut open an English person, do you find the House of Commons? If you cut open an Australian, do you find the House Of Representatives? No, but democracy and democratic rights exist, due to political will. Human rights exist, due to political will. Democracy and human rights can be and often are and have been extinguished by political will. Since Christianity is not democratic, and Jesus was not a democrat, will your Jesus world domination extinguish our democratic rights? The personal is political Glen. 1 Peter 3:15
Glen says @ 26.50 “We all believe in freedom. No human being should be the property of another human being. We all believe that.” OTOH, God says in Leviticus 25: 45 & 46, “Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever.” So, who is right, God or Glen? What do you measure your behaviour against to know that owning another human as property is wrong and immoral? You can’t use your God’s will/commands as your God specifically commands ownership of other humans as property. I, Alan, definitely do think that no human should be the property of another human, because slavery is a massive breach of mutual peace and as the Confucianists pointed out 2,500 years ago, moral values are grounded in mutual peace, an objective measure of behaviour as it is external to the individual. An individual then makes a subjective decision to use that objective measure or not use it. However, the Bible that Glen constantly quotes doesn’t believe or preach that slavery is always wrong, has always been wrong, does it. Glen’s alleged god disagrees with what Glen is saying here and who is Glen to challenge the word of the unchanging God whose decisions are perfect because God is omni everything and makes no errors so does not need to make changes or need a new covenant because God allegedly gets it right the first time? Such hubris on Glen’s part. The Bible is a job lot, mate, you can’t cherry pick the verses that fit in with 21st century England’s Liberal Social Democracy ordered by a secular humanist parliament. Those Bible verses are pretty clear aren’t they, Glen. There is no ambiguity. Your alleged god condones humans owning other humans and passing them on as an inheritance. And IMHO that is just totally disgusting. It’s in my Bible and it’s in your Bible, the one you lean on when you give sermons and seminars. Are you lying or ignorant of your own Bible? Your choice. Why do you reject the word of your alleged god? Why are you in denial of the word of your alleged god? Is it because you know that what is written in the Bible as the word of your alleged god is grossly immoral and unjust and should not be tolerated? Again, I refer you to 1 Peter 3:15 where Christians are called on to answer questions asked of you. I predict that as with so many times before, you will run away from your responsibilities and once again not follow your own advice. Do as I say, not do as I do, seems to be your motto. The arc of your moral universe bends back on itself and bites you on the proverbial. You cannot change what is in the Bible Glen. You are prohibited by the Bible from doing that. What mechanism was MLK Jnr using to bring justice at the end of the arc of the universe? He was using Liberal Social Democracy in the secular and humanist institution of the Congress of the USA. He could not use the Bible to bring justice to African Americans because the Bible explicitly commands the injustice that African Americans found themselves oppressed by. It is the content of a person’s character that matters. But to be free at last, that requires changes that can only be brought about by an inclusive Secular Humanist Liberal Social Democracy that can and does implement, freedom, compassion, equality, consent, science, enlightenment and progress in ways that Christianity can’t do as Christianity lacks the political will to do so because the totalitarian political values of its governance are diametrically opposed to the inclusive politics of its humanist values. Remember 1 Peter 3:15
He needs the NT truth, the truth of going to heaven. The low tide of false teaching in Christianity, first realise the obedience of faith, the one truth of true believers.
@@markwebb7576 "He" is the random guy visiting church at around 16 minutes, and I am saying that heaven is the goal, and obedience of faith to get there are the truth to be told. I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' as too often I hear free grace being taught, and salvation at the Cross, but it is serving God by the obedience of faith that rewards us with heaven.
28:07 Nice strawman. Evolution says nothing about being kind or being a jerk. Being kind works in the survival of the human species, therefore it's beneficial from an evolutionary viewpoint. Why are apologists always so disingenuous?
You said evolution says nothing about being kind or being a jerk and then you said being kind is beneficial in a evolutionary standpoint do you see the contradiction Also you should read a natural history of rape because rape is more advantageous to propagate your genes than being kind. And to be clear the writers of a natural history of rape condemn rape but they tell us that for men who can’t propagate their genes ultimately decided to become rapists
@@1258-d3t Nice try. Evolution is only about organisms existing. Evolution says nothing about what behaviour is morally better. As human beings, cooperation seems to be a more successful then the right of the strongest. Of course, we see in the Middle East that using an imaginary sky daddy for cooperation might backfire.
show any book on evolution arguing for niceness or kindness being a factor to the species that survice. Let's see how the never-strawmaning-you is not disingenuous.
@@Alien1375every atheists country (that have been atheists for 2 to 3 generations) have been the most bloody nations in the world. Germany under Hitler: Goebbels diaries 1939-1941 p304: Hitler is very acute with antiquity, he hates Christianity because it has crippled everything that is noble in humanity and rightly so. According to Schaupenhauer Christianity and syphilis have made mankind unhappy and unfree. Inside the 3rd Reich written by Albert Speer p94: what nonsense we have just reach an age that left all superstition behind we are almost [Himmler] wants to go back we should have stayed with the Church at least it has tradition. What’s next I would become an SS saint can you imagine me I would turn over my grave. Oh Hitler spoke well of Christianity. False he spoke highly of positive Christianity a rewriting of the Bible: the Sermon on the mount was about the SS towards the SS, he changed eternal life with true life, Jesus wasn’t a Jew obviously (otherwise the Nazis would praise a Jew) Paul who was a Jew changed the Bible. But also remember Julius Streicher said if Jesus compares with Hitler it is with one or two exceptions for Hitler is too big a man to be compared with one so petty. What about Gutt mit uns: they used the belt because they ran out of equipment. Stalin was studying to become an orthodox priest when he read the origin of species became a politician and killed millions Kim Il Sung’s father was a Christian missionary, Kim Il Sung rejected the faith of his father became a dictator and he and his descendants killed millions Mao Zedong was a fan of French philosophers he became a politician and killed between 70 to 100 millions
Ok, I think I get the new argument: Christians supposedly invented human rights (such a stupid arrogant statement) and other cool secular things like science… so the magic must be true too! I’m struggling with this conclusion…
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As someone who was born and raised in the U.S.A. and walking with Christ for over 35 years, I can say this is possibly the best talk I've heard on this subject. Well done, and thank you brother. Be blessed!!
Magnificent to see the seed that is Glen blooming into a ruddy great tree for Jesus Christ.
Brilliant talk Glen.
The Lord has truly gifted you with great communication skills.
It is indeed Jesus or the pit. Praise Him for the gift of salvation.
I feel privileged to have received it.
Finding a sound biblical church when we move away is on our top priorities.
God bless you and your ministry.
I painstakingly made my way through Tom Holland's Dominion. I Wish I had read The Air We Breathe First. Great communicator!
Great talk, Glen. Thank you.
Well done. This is exactly what I have been thinking about. I read Tom Holland's book and am also reading yours. We are so close to non-believers because we share 90% of our beliefs (in the West). This is a great encapsulation of the idea. I will have to watch it again....I think there is a new development for evangelism now that more people understand the fundamental nature of belief and faith itself.
Yes, figuring out that all of us are believers (it’s just the object of our faith that differs) is a huge step forwards
Thank you Glen for such a moving and encouraging explanation of low tide evangelism. Thanks too for the Mitchell basketball reference which I found on TH-cam - wonderful!
Louise Perry was fundamental in my move to Christianity.
Lol that’s exactly what I did order a Bible from amazon. I had no idea about versions and it was the King James and I started in Genesis! Six months of falling asleep with the Bible in my hands not getting very far I realised there are easier versions and a friend told me to start with the book of Matthew
Love it!
😄 If you ever want some help Michael S Heiser and Tim Mackie are two incredible teachers who won't try and force a denomination onto you or make you believe what they believe but will teach the bible in an amazing way that's understandable and deep
@@NateMP thanks! I have The Unseen Realm by Heiser although I haven’t read it yet.
@@kateorson4754 Ooooooo that book is sooooo good! It really helped me comprehend the entire biblical story much better when I was just beginning to get into the bible
For a first read of the Bible, I'd recommend the NLT (New Living Translation) or the NIV (New International Version). But, as they say on the BBC in the UK, “Other translations are available”.
Options for how to read it without reading from cover to cover would be to search for “chronological Bible study" or “Bible, the history of covenant” (the covenants that God makes with humanity are the overriding theme of the Bible: they are what makes it one book.
Wonderful and very inspiring! Keswick must have been an incredible conference!
Incredible talk! I’ve shared this with friends and they’ve found it really helpful and encouraging
I love this. So true
Excellent, inspiring, hopeful stuff!
Glen, you rock. Worth going to Keswick just to see you.
Thanks Glen. Lots of food for thought here. I've been to Curio Bay, seen the low tide there, and the penguins and sea lions. Only want to do that in the Summer time. On a full moon, the tide is out a lot more. Be great to see and hear you at Keswick in Rotorua?
Amen & Amen!
This was excellent, thank you!
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Excellent, Glen. And, as Jeeves said: "You would not enjoy Nietzsche, sir. He is fundamentally unsound." (PG Wodehouse- Carry on Jeeves) :)
Thanks for this Glen.
I was saddened to read that in the local Keswick newspaper, Keswick Ministries were reported to be ''saddened' by Brephos pro-life display.
Please communicate with their leaders to publicly repent. It's an awful sin to publicly condemn people who were just standing up for the most vulnerable in society and exposing mass genocide.
What do you think of this?
Another example of so called Christian unity in the truth , ie division….
"It's Jesus or the pit" - pithy and true!
And what's more, it's an upbeat look at the low tide. God hardened Pharaoh's heart 10 times. One way to look at it is that God gave Egypt 10 times to repent. What the enemy meant for evil, God uses for good that many might be saved.
Sally's are found in Romans 2:14, humanists who do things in God's law, but are lawless and cannot be judged according to the gospel of Paul, and have no hope of eternity.
"Little seed, you want to be great.
Want it now; you've no time to wait.
Small and feisty, thinking you're wild and free.
I want to make you a tree...."
Pm me.
If the poet came back he'd probably say his prophecy came to pass.
Apple seed, geometric progression. I get it. But if the seed hadn't germinated then... nothing.
Not a Christian but I'd prefer a Christian convert over a Muslim one. Maybe a more targeted approach is needed. Where is Muslim proselyting succeeding and why. Address those and perhaps prevent Muslim conversions.
As you know Glen, Joh Bjelke Peterson would say "Don't you worry about that" and then Jane Singleton interviewed Joh and pushed back with "But I am worried about that."
Glen says “World domination……The triumph of the people of Jesus is certain, you don’t need to worry about that.”
World domination - That’s a political claim.
The triumph of the people of Jesus is certain - that’s a political claim.
So, what does the politics of that look like Glen because I am worried about that given the authoritarian nature of Abrahamic monotheism?
Please explain. Don’t just give us platitudes, give us the political reality of Jesus world domination. Can you do that?
Are you prepared to explain how your world domination is going to work politically?
There are 8 billion + people in the world. Governing them does not happen by arm waving rhetoric. It requires the reality of a practical political solution.
What practical political solution do you have on offer that is better than the inclusive Secular Humanist Liberal Social Democracy we currently live under in the UK and Australia?
Remember your own advice to follow the injunctions of 1 Peter 3:15
I choose SHLSD because it is the inclusive ordering principle that has best supplied us with freedom, compassion, equality, consent, science, enlightenment and progress, compared to the other ordering principles humans have tried and SHLSD is so far ahead of the exclusive authoritarianism of Christian theocracy that there is no contest.
Human rights are political.
Democracy is political.
If you cut open an English person, do you find the House of Commons?
If you cut open an Australian, do you find the House Of Representatives?
No, but democracy and democratic rights exist, due to political will.
Human rights exist, due to political will.
Democracy and human rights can be and often are and have been extinguished by political will.
Since Christianity is not democratic, and Jesus was not a democrat, will your Jesus world domination extinguish our democratic rights?
The personal is political Glen.
1 Peter 3:15
Glen says @ 26.50 “We all believe in freedom. No human being should be the property of another human being. We all believe that.” OTOH, God says in Leviticus 25: 45 & 46, “Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever.”
So, who is right, God or Glen?
What do you measure your behaviour against to know that owning another human as property is wrong and immoral? You can’t use your God’s will/commands as your God specifically commands ownership of other humans as property.
I, Alan, definitely do think that no human should be the property of another human, because slavery is a massive breach of mutual peace and as the Confucianists pointed out 2,500 years ago, moral values are grounded in mutual peace, an objective measure of behaviour as it is external to the individual. An individual then makes a subjective decision to use that objective measure or not use it.
However, the Bible that Glen constantly quotes doesn’t believe or preach that slavery is always wrong, has always been wrong, does it. Glen’s alleged god disagrees with what Glen is saying here and who is Glen to challenge the word of the unchanging God whose decisions are perfect because God is omni everything and makes no errors so does not need to make changes or need a new covenant because God allegedly gets it right the first time? Such hubris on Glen’s part. The Bible is a job lot, mate, you can’t cherry pick the verses that fit in with 21st century England’s Liberal Social Democracy ordered by a secular humanist parliament.
Those Bible verses are pretty clear aren’t they, Glen. There is no ambiguity. Your alleged god condones humans owning other humans and passing them on as an inheritance. And IMHO that is just totally disgusting.
It’s in my Bible and it’s in your Bible, the one you lean on when you give sermons and seminars. Are you lying or ignorant of your own Bible? Your choice.
Why do you reject the word of your alleged god?
Why are you in denial of the word of your alleged god?
Is it because you know that what is written in the Bible as the word of your alleged god is grossly immoral and unjust and should not be tolerated?
Again, I refer you to 1 Peter 3:15 where Christians are called on to answer questions asked of you. I predict that as with so many times before, you will run away from your responsibilities and once again not follow your own advice. Do as I say, not do as I do, seems to be your motto.
The arc of your moral universe bends back on itself and bites you on the proverbial. You cannot change what is in the Bible Glen. You are prohibited by the Bible from doing that.
What mechanism was MLK Jnr using to bring justice at the end of the arc of the universe?
He was using Liberal Social Democracy in the secular and humanist institution of the Congress of the USA. He could not use the Bible to bring justice to African Americans because the Bible explicitly commands the injustice that African Americans found themselves oppressed by. It is the content of a person’s character that matters. But to be free at last, that requires changes that can only be brought about by an inclusive Secular Humanist Liberal Social Democracy that can and does implement, freedom, compassion, equality, consent, science, enlightenment and progress in ways that Christianity can’t do as Christianity lacks the political will to do so because the totalitarian political values of its governance are diametrically opposed to the inclusive politics of its humanist values.
Remember 1 Peter 3:15
As a non believer, not very convincing 🥱
If your alternative beliefs allow for better ways to understand & navigate reality I’m curious what that looks like for your life?
He needs the NT truth, the truth of going to heaven. The low tide of false teaching in Christianity, first realise the obedience of faith, the one truth of true believers.
Does Glen deny the truth about heaven or the obedience of faith?
@@markwebb7576 "He" is the random guy visiting church at around 16 minutes, and I am saying that heaven is the goal, and obedience of faith to get there are the truth to be told.
I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' as too often I hear free grace being taught, and salvation at the Cross, but it is serving God by the obedience of faith that rewards us with heaven.
"Consent" - don't see much of it in the bible tbh
28:07 Nice strawman.
Evolution says nothing about being kind or being a jerk. Being kind works in the survival of the human species, therefore it's beneficial from an evolutionary viewpoint.
Why are apologists always so disingenuous?
You said evolution says nothing about being kind or being a jerk and then you said being kind is beneficial in a evolutionary standpoint do you see the contradiction
Also you should read a natural history of rape because rape is more advantageous to propagate your genes than being kind.
And to be clear the writers of a natural history of rape condemn rape but they tell us that for men who can’t propagate their genes ultimately decided to become rapists
@@1258-d3t Nice try. Evolution is only about organisms existing. Evolution says nothing about what behaviour is morally better. As human beings, cooperation seems to be a more successful then the right of the strongest.
Of course, we see in the Middle East that using an imaginary sky daddy for cooperation might backfire.
show any book on evolution arguing for niceness or kindness being a factor to the species that survice. Let's see how the never-strawmaning-you is not disingenuous.
@@Alien1375every atheists country (that have been atheists for 2 to 3 generations) have been the most bloody nations in the world. Germany under Hitler: Goebbels diaries 1939-1941 p304: Hitler is very acute with antiquity, he hates Christianity because it has crippled everything that is noble in humanity and rightly so. According to Schaupenhauer Christianity and syphilis have made mankind unhappy and unfree. Inside the 3rd Reich written by Albert Speer p94: what nonsense we have just reach an age that left all superstition behind we are almost [Himmler] wants to go back we should have stayed with the Church at least it has tradition. What’s next I would become an SS saint can you imagine me I would turn over my grave.
Oh Hitler spoke well of Christianity. False he spoke highly of positive Christianity a rewriting of the Bible: the Sermon on the mount was about the SS towards the SS, he changed eternal life with true life, Jesus wasn’t a Jew obviously (otherwise the Nazis would praise a Jew) Paul who was a Jew changed the Bible. But also remember Julius Streicher said if Jesus compares with Hitler it is with one or two exceptions for Hitler is too big a man to be compared with one so petty.
What about Gutt mit uns: they used the belt because they ran out of equipment.
Stalin was studying to become an orthodox priest when he read the origin of species became a politician and killed millions
Kim Il Sung’s father was a Christian missionary, Kim Il Sung rejected the faith of his father became a dictator and he and his descendants killed millions
Mao Zedong was a fan of French philosophers he became a politician and killed between 70 to 100 millions
@@smabe7 Google the terms 'mutualism' and 'cooperation (evolution)' to find examples that evolution does not equal 'the right of the strongest bully'.
Ok, I think I get the new argument: Christians supposedly invented human rights (such a stupid arrogant statement) and other cool secular things like science… so the magic must be true too!
I’m struggling with this conclusion…
Thinking this “tide will turn” is snorting a big speedball of copium.