Let's Talk Board Games #7: 2-Player Games

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  • @BeforeYouPlay
    @BeforeYouPlay  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Have you played any of these games? If so, what are your thoughts? Let us know!

    • @sauerwj
      @sauerwj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do love Nanga Parbat. I had custom bags and a cloth board made so I can travel with it more easily. Another great video! Thank you

    • @lisamarin8836
      @lisamarin8836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really like Caper: Europe! It puts me in mind of a lighter, shorter, more colourful version of Watergate. I love the quirky illustrations, and the production quality, as you mentioned, is top-notch.

    • @jonah3985
      @jonah3985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lisamarin8836 I felt the same way: lighter, more colorful Watergate! It's crazy how much the theme, illustrations, and overall production elevate the experience for me because I found Watergate a little boring but I love Caper: Europe.

    • @banaa9463
      @banaa9463 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have not, but thank you for talking about them. Shobu looks really good in its simplicity.

  • @Maefyre
    @Maefyre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Caper Europe is one of our favourites at the moment. As for other two player games, my wife and I consider Azul to be best as a head to head, and the new Queen's Garden is incredible as a head to head puzzler. Our favourite since the original.
    Someone else in comments mentioned Undaunted which is a fantastic head-to-head war themed game.

  • @seebasss
    @seebasss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I LOVE warchest, it's just so good, the mix of long term strategy with the bag building and the short term tactics of what to do with the coins you just drew just keeps me so engaged the whole time. And i love looking back at a game and thinking about how my armies plan changed, where early on maybe my knight was the prominent piece putting pressure on but eventually it takes too many hits and i have to pivot and now the crossbowman steps up finishes the game out. There's so much depth to it, it's definitely my favorite abstract strategy game

    • @jonah3985
      @jonah3985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you get the expansions? I'm not normally an expansion guy, but within a week of owning War Chest I instantly new I needed the other 8 factions. Not because the base game needs them, but because I know I'll be playing this game for years to come.

  • @ginsbu
    @ginsbu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Royal Visit has been a huge 2p hit in my family. Light and quick playing, but opportunities for clever play become more apparent as we play more. A 6-way tug of war!

  • @rainalynmedina760
    @rainalynmedina760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg Monique I will play War Chest with you, that is one of my fav games of all time

  • @christianbank393
    @christianbank393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just played Caper Europe over the weekend and I am excited to dive into the other decks. I liked War Chest when I played it, but the Undaunted games have basically replaced it for me. Shobu is one I have been wanted to try!

  • @afrank525
    @afrank525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Canopy is a gorgeous, 2-player push your luck and set collection game with beautiful rain forest art by Dutrait

    • @benthompson754
      @benthompson754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was already planning on commenting about this game, happy to see somebody beat me to it!
      Wife and I bought this game on a whim because the box looked neat. Ended up playing it almost non stop over a long weekend. Great game!

    • @blackboardgaming5348
      @blackboardgaming5348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Canopy is a great choice! My wife and I love that beautiful game.

  • @bearhustler
    @bearhustler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watergate is my favourite 2p game, a small game that leaves most big games in the dust.

  • @xandermichael78
    @xandermichael78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad to see your reviews of these games. I've been really curious about three of them and now after your review you've saved me from picking them up. Caper was one I was really tempted by, but hearing that it doesn't really burn your brain was what I needed to hear, because that's what I'm looking for. Shobu looks so interesting, the only problem being that abstract games rarely come out with me even though I really enjoy them. Nanga Parbat looks great, but hearing that it feels a bit samey the more you play is definitely a killer for me. Thanks again!

  • @jchangaus
    @jchangaus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    War Chest is one of my favourite 2p games. We do the random shuffle, and it's more fun trying to figure out the synergy of the units.

  • @boardgameasmr868
    @boardgameasmr868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOVE seeing 2p games get highlighted, as 90% of my plays are with my partner only.
    I'd love to see a list of favorites that you enjoy with each other that can play more, but work really well 2p.
    Thanks!

  • @deborahpate3238
    @deborahpate3238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love War Chest, and it's a brilliant tool for luring people into wargaming :)

  • @jdotco23
    @jdotco23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    War Chest is a Top 10 game of mine. So good! That Abstract Academy game reminds me a little-known two-player game called Node that I bought at a GenCon one year. Similar in that you build out a map/grid with cards that have two different colors, but instead of scoring VP for certain things, you're trying to maintain area control. I love that one!

  • @Twomexicanmeeples
    @Twomexicanmeeples 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mandala is my fav 2p game, highly recommend it

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We've heard such great things about Mandala! We'll have to check it out sometime

    • @afrank525
      @afrank525 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great game! Has some of that same tension of Lost Cities or Schotten Totten

    • @ekurisona663
      @ekurisona663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BeforeYouPlay i agree! mandala is an absolute must play!!

  • @codydavis3100
    @codydavis3100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unmatched is probably my go to 2 player game at the moment. Definitely want to try Shobu!

  • @virgofortissima
    @virgofortissima 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently discovered Nanga Parbat on BGA and I really liked it!! Would love to get the physical game some day.

  • @virgofortissima
    @virgofortissima 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    War Chest is excellent!!! I'm honestly surprised it's not more popular because it's so easy to get to the table and it has tons of replayability, especially with the expansions!

  • @Pryde551
    @Pryde551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    War Chest is one of the few games that feels designed as a 2 player, but surprisingly plays really well as a 4 player too!

  • @sharonlee9285
    @sharonlee9285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve just bought Nanga Parbat and can’t wait to get it to the table.

    • @maaax573
      @maaax573 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is it

    • @sharonlee9285
      @sharonlee9285 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maaax573 we enjoy it. Fun little filler.

  • @DoppelgangerF02
    @DoppelgangerF02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome I play primarily 2 players so this is great!

  • @OrigamiGoblin
    @OrigamiGoblin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2p games are enjoying the spotlight, thanks for opening my eyes to some of these!

  • @allenlin78
    @allenlin78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always nice to learn more about 2-player games, perhaps this can be the start of a new game series on 2 players? Great to hear your thoughts on Caper Europe which I was really tempted to get but passed!

  • @danielzechim6003
    @danielzechim6003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys r gr8... cheers from Brazil

  • @shortydancer
    @shortydancer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So happy you guys like Shobu, i also love it. But i will say that my copy came with less than stellar components. The boards dont even have any finish on them. My first boards came orange colored. I was able to get replacements when the next printing came.

  • @evgenidimitrov7790
    @evgenidimitrov7790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Caper Europe every single card play is important, usually when you lose you see the one card which you played wrong and lost because of that card.

  • @blackboardgaming5348
    @blackboardgaming5348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Onitama, Santorini, Land vs. Sea and Canopy are ones that have pleasantly hit our table. Picked up Shobu at Origins and have yet to play it. Now I gotta play it!

    • @maaax573
      @maaax573 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is it

  • @maartjeminderhoud
    @maartjeminderhoud ปีที่แล้ว

    I really would love to see a playtrough video of the game Shobu ❤

  • @robertaustin6302
    @robertaustin6302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Caper: Europe and War Chest are fantastic!

  • @JohnBystrom
    @JohnBystrom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me and my wife have been playing some Caper Europe, and we really enjoy it. Short game, about 20-25min, with many tough decisions. We really like the tug of war aspect of the game, you usually can’t win all three locations so you need to decide which one(s) to go for. But even if you don’t win any or just one location, you can still win the game. Really enjoyable 😃

  • @BramBeardGaming
    @BramBeardGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love Caper: Europe and War Chest! Haven't played the others, but we definitely need to dive into some more 2p games. I've seen Shobu, and heard a lot of good things about it. -Richmond

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Richmond! Great to hear we have some overlap! Thanks for checking out the vid =)

  • @dreamofempire2114
    @dreamofempire2114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to Caper Europe being released here in Australia later this year. We love a 2 player tug of war game. Royal visit by Reiner Knizia is another good game in that genre.

  • @steveg9939
    @steveg9939 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see Nanga Parbat get some exposure. I agree with your review. I play it mostly with my daughter. It is a fun game and gets to the table once in a while. Biblios is better.

  • @elqord.1118
    @elqord.1118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shobu is my favorite abstract game! Even beating Yinsh

  • @ButOneThingIsNeedful
    @ButOneThingIsNeedful ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed hearing your thoughts about these two-player games, and (of course) could mention many more 2-player titles I'd value your takes on.

    • @ButOneThingIsNeedful
      @ButOneThingIsNeedful ปีที่แล้ว

      BTW, familiar with Cerebria? One hardly hears a whisper about it, but it's got my interest. Can't decide whether it's crazy-good or just crazy. Quite heavy, I understand, but that's never stopped you guys. Not strictly for two players, but best at two. You can't possibly look at all the games people mention, but I wondered if you'd like it.

  • @starshocker
    @starshocker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love challenging abstract games and Shōbu seems to be right of my alley. Gotta convince my friends, though.
    I'd also love to grab a Caper Europe for sure. There are a few Keymaster games I wanna play out there.

  • @CharlesHepburn2
    @CharlesHepburn2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been enjoying Radlands at two players. I have Shobu but I haven’t tabled it yet. Jaipur is a good one… very fast playing. I also have Watergate but haven’t tabled it yet. I need more people to play games with. Oh… and Mr. Jack is a good two player game with quasi-hidden movement/role. Lastly… King Domino with 7x7 grid is a fav.

    • @matthewaitchison3328
      @matthewaitchison3328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Radlands is a fantastic two player game. The more I play the more I want to continue to play.

  • @ramorgan1
    @ramorgan1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So did y'all like Parks? You seemed to think that it's super lightweight which surprised me. It's extremely accessible so can be played with anyone, but I love the level of depth there if you want to play that way.

  • @olloplays
    @olloplays 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Abstract Academy looks very cute and I'm excited to look more into that one. ❣️

  • @distrustfulmonkey2832
    @distrustfulmonkey2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd definitely suggest giving war chest more time! Drafting is the only way to play though for sure. Don't know about the dictated set ups but with drafting I've never felt under powered only out played! I only mention this because if I were to make a top 5 the others would probably be A Feast for Odin', Gaia Project, Teotihuacan and maybe Inis maybe Roll for the Galaxy. Not sure. Anyway I think we have a lot of crossover in our tastes (after watching an absolute pile of your videos) and of all of them after easily 50 plays war chest is probably my no 1! 4 player game works brilliantly too. Shobu is also a favourite. Glad to see you tubey folks showing it off. Anyhoo keep up the good work. Love your channel. :-)

  • @AlliesorEnemies
    @AlliesorEnemies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another two player specific one that was a nice surprise is Glasgow.

  • @marcodissa
    @marcodissa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've played Nanga Parbat just yesterday, laid down in a park during Easter break. I brought the game and we both really enjoyed it! Dr. Finn's games are just perfect when I need a relaxing, but still engaging experience (Herbaceous being one of my favorites, with The Whatnot Cabinet as my top choice when playing with my family).
    Besides some 2-player classics (like Patchwork or Jaipur), "Jekyll vs. Hyde" is a more recent, trick-taking game I fell in love with. I'm usually not very keen on the genre, but I really like the asymmetry where a player (Jekyll) has to balance the number of tricks, while the other (Hyde) wants to bring chaos by taking either all or none of the tricks.
    Caper: Europe is in my wishlist from a while, hoping some publisher will bring it here in Italy 🤞

  • @BillyIndiana
    @BillyIndiana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not too keen on abstract games, but I've had my eye on Shobu & War Chest. After hearing your reflections, I definitely want to try them both. Great video!

    • @maaax573
      @maaax573 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did you try them

    • @BillyIndiana
      @BillyIndiana 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I still have not tried either game unfortunately 😢

  • @Arcadio89
    @Arcadio89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shobu picked my interest. You'll do a playthrough sometime in the future?

  • @ifnyou
    @ifnyou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you like something about the idea of war chest, but would prefer it to be not quite so extremely asymmetrical, you could try any of the Undaunted games by the same designers. Those have a largish luck factor in the dice rolling, but still very interesting and different takes on deckbuilding / unit fighting.

  • @elit529
    @elit529 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see a Shobu playthrough if you would consider making one :)

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skulk Hollow is still my best 2 player game then Radlands. I also enjoy Caper Europe, but I don't like War Chest much (I also like undaunted 3 games better). At 4 we like Marshmallow Test a lot. We also like our mod: Blood Rage Lite.

  • @matthewpannell7268
    @matthewpannell7268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me and my wife love Caper Europe!!

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aw glad to hear you're enjoying it! What is your fave part about the game?

    • @matthewpannell7268
      @matthewpannell7268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BeforeYouPlay we really enjoy the tug of war aspect of the game as well as the set collection strategy of getting certain sets of colors based off the thief you have in a certain location. It has been a nice addition for a 2 player game similar to lost cities

  • @leftistfrog404
    @leftistfrog404 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you like war chest then maybe give undaunted a go (if you're ok with WWII theme) . It's from the same designers, it feels like sort of a refined version of war chest imo (and a lot faster). I haven't played others that you talked about in this video though I'd love to play caper. Here are some other 2p games that I adore though: targi, watergate, battle line, hanamikoji, blitzkrieg, caesar, summoner wars, war of the ring. I'd put curious cargo on the list cause it's so unique, but it's just a tad bit too fiddly and has some micro rules that are hard to remember for some reason. Great video guys, cheers!

  • @pgtmg624
    @pgtmg624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video. How does “Caper Europe” compare to Watergate?

  • @play-it-or-not
    @play-it-or-not 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 2-players category I love Stellar, Jaipur and hive. I would love to test Caper Europe one day.

    • @BeforeYouPlay
      @BeforeYouPlay  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ooooooh Jaipur is a solid classic for us as well. Really great game! Neither of us have played Stellar though, we'll have to check it out. Great picks!

    • @dreamofempire2114
      @dreamofempire2114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you enjoyed Stellar you might want to check out another game by the same publisher called Sub-astral, which is just as good.

  • @LegioVIII
    @LegioVIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Radlands, Mindbug and DiceWar are great

  • @jonah3985
    @jonah3985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with you guys totally regarding those two starting factions in War Chest: one of them is a lot more powerful than the other, at least as far as "beginner" strategy goes.
    I find that the Units that prioritize movement are really powerful as people are learning the game. It's so easy to just grab up everything with the Light Cavalry while the other player is still setting up their bag and positioning their Units.
    In general I feel like the game seems very approachable and beginner friendly -- and from a mechanics standpoint it is -- but the actual strategy requires a lot of forethought. The bag building is very tight and new players can put themselves in extraordinarily precarious positions by not thinking about their chip economy.
    How do you guys feel about Undaunted (Normandy and North Africa) from the same designers?

  • @doggyaugie
    @doggyaugie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for yall to play War Chest... but I knew Naveen wouldn't like it because it's basically a deck builder.

  • @quishzhu
    @quishzhu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    shobu is a great game!

  • @Melancthon7332
    @Melancthon7332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Abstract Academy: wow, someone made an actual game out of Aquarius!

  • @LordoftheBoard
    @LordoftheBoard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Creeping me out with how similar your tastes seem to be to us with 2 player games! 😮

  • @raymyers700
    @raymyers700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always! Shobu is really amazing. What I tell people about abstracts is to love them for what they are. They SHOULD be deep decision space with simple rules and shorter game play. Not all abstracts are great...but many are. And it's nice when you don't have a lot of time or want to re-learn a game. One of the best series for this is the GIPF series. Kris Burm is a genius. Tzaar and Dvonn are just amazing. Yinsh is good but it makes my head hurt. I like them all except the hourglass one and maybe Punct.

  • @talhaiqbal6798
    @talhaiqbal6798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely LOVE war chest! It's a top 10 games of all time for me. The expansions for it are pretty good, especially the first one (nobility). Would gladly play with anyone in any place. In the beginning it can seem slow or "unbalanced" in certain combinations but once you play a lot you will discover a lot of new strategies and find ways to mitigate the luck. The only unit that is kinda meh in my opinion is the footman but even he can be useful in the endgame. Good review, it's assymetry variability and replayability is for sure so high as you said.

  • @aggiripap4640
    @aggiripap4640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should try Akrotiri. A superb game for 2p.
    loveUboth

  • @jacobarto1946
    @jacobarto1946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting games, thank you for reviewing these! I'm under the impression that Nadeen prefers the games where he won, am I right? :P

  • @libra4717
    @libra4717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pls play anachrony!!

  • @shruti14901
    @shruti14901 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No shade, love your stuff, but it is genuinely funny when Indian Americans apologise for butchering European names but don't bother about how to say 'Nanga Parbat'

  • @Dizzula
    @Dizzula 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weird hiccup at the start!

  • @virgofortissima
    @virgofortissima 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently discovered Nanga Parbat on BGA and I really liked it!! Would love to get the physical game some day.

  • @virgofortissima
    @virgofortissima 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    War Chest is excellent!!! I'm honestly surprised it's not more popular because it's so easy to get to the table and it has tons of replayability, especially with the expansions!