Just bought a R5C and tried to define a CLog workflow. Well... After two hours of watching TH-cam stuff from people who have no idea of what they're talking about I found this video. Thank you so much for this great and professional insight 🙂
Excellent info for Canon R5 users, not much other material around on how to shoot correctly and if you don't set it up right before the shoot it might be unrecoverable afterwards.
Hello mate, very useful video thank you! Just trying to get my zebra % set right for my r5 for skin tones. I thought most people recommended 70% as a general norm. But are you suggesting that when shooting in CLog that it should be 60% instead? Why is that?
Fantastic guide thank you. I do admit my head is spinning and not entirely sure what to do. I just got the R6 and want to shoot TH-cam in a controlled environment. With the new CLOG3 FW update should I then use ISO 800? Getting so much noise :(
I hope you don't mind me asking. Are you a full-time filmmaker? How do you make a living doing this? How do you get in contact with people who can potentially hire you? What advice would you give someone who wants to get into Ad-filmmaking and Music videography?
I'm curious as to the middle 18% gray/IRE 33% for the Canon R5 CLOG3. I can not find any documentation that shows this. Can you send me a link that shows this chart?
Hi Sareesh. I think H265 has great intent for capture and distribution. As you say it is the editing that's a pain. Latest Intel QuickSync can now edit Canons 4:2:2 implementation, or as I'm sure you know the M1 and up Apple Macs - apparently not much good for grading as yet though. I'm not sure about the Quick Sync transcode quality yet. Have you looked at Resolve colour managed work flows? (Resolve 16 and greatly enhanced in 17. I got the Studio 17 dongle with a free speed editor!). I think that colour managed may avoid the need for LUTs but have yet to try it myself - got other problems at present. For direct to HDR TV there is the HLG gamma, or for graded work the PQ one which are now available in some cameras. I appreciate HDR displays may not be a big market for you as yet - I've only just seen one in action here (bought it for son and daughter in law) but I think it is the future - much more impressive than the move from HD to UHD. Might make a useful USP for your marketing so I thought I'd mention it. Now to watch the rest of your very useful looking video. Cheers. BobUK.
I really appreciate this video. You noted that an overexposure of 1.5 stops, in general, is recommended. I always get a bit confused when I hear things like overexposing to get the proper exposure, so I assume that the overexposure is relative to a measure like the camera's light meter. Is that what you mean? In my testing, to get an approximately 33 IRE for 18% grey, I was reading approximately 1 stop overexposed on the meter. That setting appeared to yield the best result but I need to do some further field testing.
Since the R, I always overexposed 1 stop using the camera's light meter and got good results, and I'm getting the same results with the R5 overxposing 1 stop. I would like to hear other people experiencies
Fantastic explanation, my friend. I would have loved to see an example for shooting outdoors. I've had real trouble with this recently. I just cannot seem to avoid over or underexposed scenes, even with an ND filter.
Thank you for making this. The world of video is vast and confusing! I appreciate this help as I learn to navigate through! 🙏🏻 Well articulated and bulleted points. This stuff is actually starting to make sense.
Please guide..How to shoot 10 bit 4:2: 2 video footage on Canon R5? does it shoot 10 bit 4:2: 2 only in C-Log? DO it has to be ALL-I or IPB to get 10 bit 4:2: 2?
Please guide..How to shoot 10 bit 4:2: 2 video footage on Canon R5? does it shoot 10 bit 4:2: 2 only in C-Log? DO it has to be ALL-I or IPB to get 10 bit 4:2: 2?
Would it be possible to make a quick video what changes if one uses the new clog3 profile? Or maybe if possible give some hints in the answer to this comment?
That was really good, most people assume everyone can expose properly and not so easy in different lighting when you don't have full control over it, i.e natural light.
Super disagree with the Rec709 advice. The Canon technical LUT that converts CLog Rec 2020 to Rec 709 results in better looking Rec 709 (than the in camera 709). Rec 2020 also color grades better (can be pushed farther). If your only problem is you don’t have a Rec 2020 monitor yet just buy one. The Atomos monitors are affordable and reliable. Up your game to Rec 2020!
Nice vid... when testing the canon i found the highlight rolloff quite harsh in log tho. Especially in outdoorshots the skin clipped really fast and ugly at base iso 10 bit all-i log. Unless i have full control over the light, this just isnt practical for me (mostly run and gun shooting 50% in sunny outdoors). Not sure its the dynamic range either, as this seemed much better on the gh5 even in non-log. Dont know what is the case with canon log, but no matter how much i bring the exposure down and do every soft-rolloff trick in post, the rolloff is just quite harsh...sony slog performs much smoother there... really wish they wouldve put clog2 or 3 in there, another canon cripple-hammer move to save the c70?
You mention you’re at base iso. If you mean you’re at the base iso for the R5 - iso 100 - then I expect your highlights will be clipped, and light skin could be clipped the way you described. If you mean you’re at the base iso Canon designed for clog (iso 400) or clog3 (iso 800), then it sounds like you’ve overexposed, and need to close your aperture down, or use an ND filter. Perhaps a variable ND filter would shoot your run and gun style? Sorry if these are basic points for you - I see you’ve shot log on Panasonic & Sony, so you probably know all this already.
@@tazzamund hey, thanks for the pointers and constructive ideas. Yes, i was at the intended optimal iso (400) at the time but no matter the over/under/middle-exposure, in bright direct sunlight i either had really underexposed subject or harsh clipping highlights…sonys slog3 on the a7s3 or panasonics vlog behave much better here. I will however add, that the recent samples ive seen with clog3 seem a lot better. In fact i just ordered an r6 (for rent) to try clog3 once more and am quite interested to see if it makes a major difference.
Bullshit camera. Rec709 color space? Is that a joke? Also, canon applied zebra in a strange way. On my bmpcc 4k the monitoring lut won't change the false color or the waveform. I have to bake it in for that. On canon is the opposite
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Just bought a R5C and tried to define a CLog workflow. Well... After two hours of watching TH-cam stuff from people who have no idea of what they're talking about I found this video. Thank you so much for this great and professional insight 🙂
Excellent info for Canon R5 users, not much other material around on how to shoot correctly and if you don't set it up right before the shoot it might be unrecoverable afterwards.
This video is so underrated! Thanks for the summary insights and detailed explanations👏
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Would this work well with the Canon R6 C-Log?
This was one of the most informative and professional videos on the R5. Great job and great footage.
I love you’re videos when they’re under 20min
thank you! love the "dont touch that. leave it" honesty haha
Hello mate, very useful video thank you! Just trying to get my zebra % set right for my r5 for skin tones. I thought most people recommended 70% as a general norm. But are you suggesting that when shooting in CLog that it should be 60% instead? Why is that?
When talking about the Canon Log in the R5, you mentioned it wasn’t like the original Canon Log. Is that the Log that what was in the Canon 1DC?
How canon log works in Canon eos r6 IPB compression. Please help
Where can I find the Clog2 literature from Canon? I wasn't able to find on Canon's site
Fantastic video - thank you!!!
Fantastic guide thank you. I do admit my head is spinning and not entirely sure what to do. I just got the R6 and want to shoot TH-cam in a controlled environment. With the new CLOG3 FW update should I then use ISO 800? Getting so much noise :(
What about the update that gives us clog 3 do we still use the clog
Are you planning on doing the same with the A7Siii? Cheers
Great video. Thankyou
Great work, thank you for your time and efford.
I hope you don't mind me asking. Are you a full-time filmmaker? How do you make a living doing this? How do you get in contact with people who can potentially hire you? What advice would you give someone who wants to get into Ad-filmmaking and Music videography?
The faster you start shooting things yourself and create content/portfolio. You have to also be social.
Highly knowledgeable video, thank you
Fantastic video! It would be nice if you can make a couple more of these videos. How to expose Sigma fp (cdng) & Lumix S5 (prores Raw)
I'm curious as to the middle 18% gray/IRE 33% for the Canon R5 CLOG3. I can not find any documentation that shows this. Can you send me a link that shows this chart?
Invaluable. Thank you so much!!!
Why not use a histogram? I mean for those that don't have an external monitor, a histogram is really helpful tool to use..
Hi Sareesh. I think H265 has great intent for capture and distribution. As you say it is the editing that's a pain. Latest Intel QuickSync can now edit Canons 4:2:2 implementation, or as I'm sure you know the M1 and up Apple Macs - apparently not much good for grading as yet though. I'm not sure about the Quick Sync transcode quality yet. Have you looked at Resolve colour managed work flows? (Resolve 16 and greatly enhanced in 17. I got the Studio 17 dongle with a free speed editor!). I think that colour managed may avoid the need for LUTs but have yet to try it myself - got other problems at present. For direct to HDR TV there is the HLG gamma, or for graded work the PQ one which are now available in some cameras. I appreciate HDR displays may not be a big market for you as yet - I've only just seen one in action here (bought it for son and daughter in law) but I think it is the future - much more impressive than the move from HD to UHD. Might make a useful USP for your marketing so I thought I'd mention it. Now to watch the rest of your very useful looking video. Cheers. BobUK.
Pc build recommendations for full HD and 4k video editing?
Note - length 15 minutes max with normal effects
a pc with ssd and at least 32 gb ram.... if 64 beter.... processor 3.8-4.5 GHz
great video! Which camera do you think works better for video the Canon r5 or the sony a 7siii? both can be complemented for a professional job?
Yessss more videos on the r5!!!
I really appreciate this video. You noted that an overexposure of 1.5 stops, in general, is recommended. I always get a bit confused when I hear things like overexposing to get the proper exposure, so I assume that the overexposure is relative to a measure like the camera's light meter. Is that what you mean? In my testing, to get an approximately 33 IRE for 18% grey, I was reading approximately 1 stop overexposed on the meter. That setting appeared to yield the best result but I need to do some further field testing.
Since the R, I always overexposed 1 stop using the camera's light meter and got good results, and I'm getting the same results with the R5 overxposing 1 stop. I would like to hear other people experiencies
This was so great. Thank you!
Really good info thanks so much
thankyou.
Excellent!
Thankyou ✌🏻
You’re welcome!
Great video! Can you do this for Clog 3?!
Hi. How are you? . Since Corona, ordinary daily life is more precious than ever. Now that it's winter, I hope there's no more damage.
clog 18% gray 35%IRE? or 33% ,Maybe my mistake.ohhhhh.
You could make a drinking game out of how many times you say log.
Record in Rec2020 it makes more sense. Get more out of your camera.
Time to do a new one for S-log, now that the a7s3 has 10 bit!
so now that clog3 is out so you prefer that?
Also, an update for firmware 1.30 might be opportune - we're in Canon Log 3 land now!
Fantastic explanation, my friend. I would have loved to see an example for shooting outdoors. I've had real trouble with this recently. I just cannot seem to avoid over or underexposed scenes, even with an ND filter.
Where did you download the Canon 709 LUT?
Thank you for making this. The world of video is vast and confusing! I appreciate this help as I learn to navigate through! 🙏🏻 Well articulated and bulleted points. This stuff is actually starting to make sense.
You’re welcome!
Please guide..How to shoot 10 bit 4:2: 2 video footage on Canon R5? does it shoot 10 bit 4:2: 2 only in C-Log? DO it has to be ALL-I or IPB to get 10 bit 4:2: 2?
Please guide..How to shoot 10 bit 4:2: 2 video footage on Canon R5? does it shoot 10 bit 4:2: 2 only in C-Log? DO it has to be ALL-I or IPB to get 10 bit 4:2: 2?
Would it be possible to make a quick video what changes if one uses the new clog3 profile? Or maybe if possible give some hints in the answer to this comment?
Thank you so much! This has been the most informative video on canon log I have ever seen.
Quick question: can you explain like most of what you said?
very informational video. thank you for making this video. it was super helpful
Nicely done!!
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Amazing info
That was really good, most people assume everyone can expose properly and not so easy in different lighting when you don't have full control over it, i.e natural light.
This is a more in-depth and well-explained video. Thank you
Very good thank you for putting this together.
Hi Sareesh. Me again. Just watched to the end. Superb explanation! Best one I've come across so far. Liked and subd. Thank you. BobUK.
I'm wondering which Log to use once they add CLOG3 to the CanonR5? Would be better if Canon would adopt the new AV1 and drop the very costly H.265.
Are you using both Zebra's? I assume you are not. Could you verify. Thank you great video!
Thank you, it's very clear
Really awesome video! Thanks for explaining that :)
great informative video thank you
luts not working when click download?
Make a video on your opinion on cinematography of 'ludo'.
Superb, thanks for this. I’ll be referring to it a lot. 🙏🏽
This is a great video do one for Log 3
thanks bro
Finally a real in-depth explanation
Great, no-nonsense video as expected!
Really helpful!!
Super disagree with the Rec709 advice. The Canon technical LUT that converts CLog Rec 2020 to Rec 709 results in better looking Rec 709 (than the in camera 709). Rec 2020 also color grades better (can be pushed farther). If your only problem is you don’t have a Rec 2020 monitor yet just buy one. The Atomos monitors are affordable and reliable. Up your game to Rec 2020!
and four people clap.
Thanks!
Good 👍
You don't use nd filters to control highlights?!
You can always expose for the highlights and then illuminate your subject like a true cinematographer. Not everything needs to be shot at f1.4
Where can i find the official Luts you mentioned at the beginning of the video ?? Are the ones you offering for free different than those ?
Canon website
My hero ❤️
Nice vid... when testing the canon i found the highlight rolloff quite harsh in log tho. Especially in outdoorshots the skin clipped really fast and ugly at base iso 10 bit all-i log. Unless i have full control over the light, this just isnt practical for me (mostly run and gun shooting 50% in sunny outdoors). Not sure its the dynamic range either, as this seemed much better on the gh5 even in non-log. Dont know what is the case with canon log, but no matter how much i bring the exposure down and do every soft-rolloff trick in post, the rolloff is just quite harsh...sony slog performs much smoother there... really wish they wouldve put clog2 or 3 in there, another canon cripple-hammer move to save the c70?
You mention you’re at base iso. If you mean you’re at the base iso for the R5 - iso 100 - then I expect your highlights will be clipped, and light skin could be clipped the way you described. If you mean you’re at the base iso Canon designed for clog (iso 400) or clog3 (iso 800), then it sounds like you’ve overexposed, and need to close your aperture down, or use an ND filter. Perhaps a variable ND filter would shoot your run and gun style? Sorry if these are basic points for you - I see you’ve shot log on Panasonic & Sony, so you probably know all this already.
@@tazzamund hey, thanks for the pointers and constructive ideas. Yes, i was at the intended optimal iso (400) at the time but no matter the over/under/middle-exposure, in bright direct sunlight i either had really underexposed subject or harsh clipping highlights…sonys slog3 on the a7s3 or panasonics vlog behave much better here. I will however add, that the recent samples ive seen with clog3 seem a lot better. In fact i just ordered an r6 (for rent) to try clog3 once more and am quite interested to see if it makes a major difference.
Bullshit camera. Rec709 color space? Is that a joke?
Also, canon applied zebra in a strange way. On my bmpcc 4k the monitoring lut won't change the false color or the waveform. I have to bake it in for that. On canon is the opposite
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