I found this interesting. I worked in the Montgomery Park building in the mid to late '80's after the old "Montgomery WARD" building/warehouse had been converted into office spaces. I believe they changed "ward" into "park" so they only had to change 2 letters. I assume the "dig" was about examining the ground to prepare for another building which I vaguely remember from my time there. (If you do a search you can see it in pictures. There is a street between the two now.) The guys in the suits are probably the engineers who were supervising the job. They would have had to make sure they knew what they were building on. I remember being told that they brought the merchandise on trains right into the bottom of the building. In my day they had converted that part into a huge atrium with a few shops, a restaurant, places to sit, large plants and I don't remember what all. The glass enclosed elevators had a bird's eye view of everything. This part faced West, on the other side of the building in your picture.
Looks like the timber to the right and behind was cleared. If you look at the tree line beyond that you'll see a concentration of trees that have not been cleared. I think the contrast is telling. I think the rebar implies they're going to turn that place into a parking lot after they get done digging.
The Lewis and Clark expo. Same thing though. There was even a Crystal Palace type building for the Oriental building. I'm not sure if it was that close to downtown. I think it was around Guilds lake towards the St. Johns bridge.
@ i recently was looking into this and learned when the giant log cabin burnt down in 1964 it caused all the windows of Montgomery park building to blow out that faced it.. The fair was huge so probably covered that entire area and had lots of trolley car lines so that weird locomotive could b on tracks from then The digging.. I’ve long suspected the true gold rush was the salvage and demolition/excavation of the noble metals found in the old technology I think a lot of the decorative features get repurposed into fancy crypts, monuments, graves etc Never seen those photos tho and seeing just the trees n mist.. makes it feel a bit less alien
I think that entire area used to be swamps and was filled in (for sure the area behind it on St Helens rd was)...Looks like they are digging footings (to be filled with cement) for some kind of building (notice the rebar)...I mean there is obviously a large construction project going on in this photo including water infrastructure ...the smoke is coming from a crane/ dirt mover...methinks you might be reaching here
I don't know... cranes were invented in 1850's and the new hydraulic ones steam powered had hoists and chains that are not seen here..steam engine trains in America 1830's ..the earth movers didn't show up until 1920's...this might be building of but it looks more like digging out. It's just my opinion, in history they have altered those text book photos too
@@tiredironrepair I'm guessing you've never done construction of any kind. I've personally dug a foundation BY HAND for an addition to a house in 2016, looong after machines could have done it, because in made more sense logistically. In this photo they are building some kind of retaining wall and probably digging footings. you can't have it both ways, that they are digging out some kind of mud-flood AND there is an ancient building ABOVE ground. Its a dilapidated wooden mansion in front of a new building project.
@@lelkotube It does look like the guys digging could be digging to set footers. Especially with that line of rebar on the left going towards the building. I thought the mansion looked like it had block walls. Hard to tell in this picture but it must be huge. Look at the size of the guys back and off to the right. They're about halfway between the camera and the mansion. They'd be even smaller in the image if they were further back. I think the locomotive coming out from under the building speaks to the long held rumors of a far more extensive underground and tunnel network than is admitted to exist.
@@tiredironrepair The construction on the left was for the railway line they built to go into/under the building. They probably had to do the digging by hand to make sure there weren't any of those mysterious "underground" things you mention. Although I suspect most the tunnels etc. would be more to the South of there towards the downtown area. Also, they would have had to pay close attention to the soil etc. before they did a major build on top of it. Just my thoughts.
Part 2 those guys if you look closely at everything they are digging by hand foundation footings for vertical cement pillars for a building. If you look closely at everything else they are constructing a foundation for a building. A lot of that land was filled in because it was a lake and filled in to build all the buildings for the Lewis and Clark Centennial Exposition. Then everything was demolished except for the great log cabin that remained until 1966 when in that years hot summer it caught fire and burned to the ground. That building after Montgomery Ward closed remained enty until Bill Natio and Norwest China company remodeled it into multiple office space etc. Then Freightliner took over 3 floors for years to house an expanding engineering department. Then after years Freightliner built another building next to its headquarters to house all departments in that new building.
In my research of why we have sidewalk windows that go into the ground turned up excuses not facts. Without large machinery power tools that were efficient, most were animal driven and difficult to house and relocate. Why we had full floor to ceiling windows fully glassed in and 1/4 of it above the sidewalk seems a waste of resources they didn't have. The Great Dig sometime in the late 1800's early 1900's where the people had dirt roads with colossal stone buildings and horse and wagon parked in front. This has a train hauling away the dirt? There were building they had to dig out and were all ready here....all cities have these..makes no sense unless there was a natural event like a mud flood* and that has been proven. It almost looks like a carnival hype.. find gold and it's yours..for 25 cents you can dig or it's foundation pillars...but that is not attacked like a building site would be. I think digging out from a global event.
I found this interesting. I worked in the Montgomery Park building in the mid to late '80's after the old "Montgomery WARD" building/warehouse had been converted into office spaces. I believe they changed "ward" into "park" so they only had to change 2 letters. I assume the "dig" was about examining the ground to prepare for another building which I vaguely remember from my time there. (If you do a search you can see it in pictures. There is a street between the two now.) The guys in the suits are probably the engineers who were supervising the job. They would have had to make sure they knew what they were building on.
I remember being told that they brought the merchandise on trains right into the bottom of the building. In my day they had converted that part into a huge atrium with a few shops, a restaurant, places to sit, large plants and I don't remember what all. The glass enclosed elevators had a bird's eye view of everything. This part faced West, on the other side of the building in your picture.
Looks like the timber to the right and behind was cleared. If you look at the tree line beyond that you'll see a concentration of trees that have not been cleared. I think the contrast is telling. I think the rebar implies they're going to turn that place into a parking lot after they get done digging.
The parade was the annual Rose Festival parade that to my knowledge went on during wartime pretty much. It had nothing to do with war time itself.
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I wonder if this was a similar style of building. Baltimore has a Montgomery park building & it looks similar to this one.
That is area world fair was I think .
The Lewis and Clark expo. Same thing though. There was even a Crystal Palace type building for the Oriental building. I'm not sure if it was that close to downtown. I think it was around Guilds lake towards the St. Johns bridge.
@ i recently was looking into this and learned when the giant log cabin burnt down in 1964 it caused all the windows of Montgomery park building to blow out that faced it..
The fair was huge so probably covered that entire area and had lots of trolley car lines so that weird locomotive could b on tracks from then
The digging.. I’ve long suspected the true gold rush was the salvage and demolition/excavation of the noble metals found in the old technology
I think a lot of the decorative features get repurposed into fancy crypts, monuments, graves etc
Never seen those photos tho and seeing just the trees n mist.. makes it feel a bit less alien
I think that entire area used to be swamps and was filled in (for sure the area behind it on St Helens rd was)...Looks like they are digging footings (to be filled with cement) for some kind of building (notice the rebar)...I mean there is obviously a large construction project going on in this photo including water infrastructure ...the smoke is coming from a crane/ dirt mover...methinks you might be reaching here
I don't know what those guys would be doing digging by hand within those squared off sections, and the damaged mansion looks really out of place.
I don't know... cranes were invented in 1850's and the new hydraulic ones steam powered had hoists and chains that are not seen here..steam engine trains in America 1830's ..the earth movers didn't show up until 1920's...this might be building of but it looks more like digging out. It's just my opinion, in history they have altered those text book photos too
@@tiredironrepair I'm guessing you've never done construction of any kind. I've personally dug a foundation BY HAND for an addition to a house in 2016, looong after machines could have done it, because in made more sense logistically. In this photo they are building some kind of retaining wall and probably digging footings. you can't have it both ways, that they are digging out some kind of mud-flood AND there is an ancient building ABOVE ground. Its a dilapidated wooden mansion in front of a new building project.
@@lelkotube It does look like the guys digging could be digging to set footers. Especially with that line of rebar on the left going towards the building. I thought the mansion looked like it had block walls. Hard to tell in this picture but it must be huge. Look at the size of the guys back and off to the right. They're about halfway between the camera and the mansion. They'd be even smaller in the image if they were further back. I think the locomotive coming out from under the building speaks to the long held rumors of a far more extensive underground and tunnel network than is admitted to exist.
@@tiredironrepair The construction on the left was for the railway line they built to go into/under the building. They probably had to do the digging by hand to make sure there weren't any of those mysterious "underground" things you mention. Although I suspect most the tunnels etc. would be more to the South of there towards the downtown area. Also, they would have had to pay close attention to the soil etc. before they did a major build on top of it. Just my thoughts.
Part 2 those guys if you look closely at everything they are digging by hand foundation footings for vertical cement pillars for a building. If you look closely at everything else they are constructing a foundation for a building. A lot of that land was filled in because it was a lake and filled in to build all the buildings for the Lewis and Clark Centennial Exposition. Then everything was demolished except for the great log cabin that remained until 1966 when in that years hot summer it caught fire and burned to the ground. That building after Montgomery Ward closed remained enty until Bill Natio and Norwest China company remodeled it into multiple office space etc. Then Freightliner took over 3 floors for years to house an expanding engineering department. Then after years Freightliner built another building next to its headquarters to house all departments in that new building.
This is why the internet was invented.
Looks like an old prison
In my research of why we have sidewalk windows that go into the ground turned up excuses not facts. Without large machinery power tools that were efficient, most were animal driven and difficult to house and relocate. Why we had full floor to ceiling windows fully glassed in and 1/4 of it above the sidewalk seems a waste of resources they didn't have. The Great Dig sometime in the late 1800's early 1900's where the people had dirt roads with colossal stone buildings and horse and wagon parked in front. This has a train hauling away the dirt? There were building they had to dig out and were all ready here....all cities have these..makes no sense unless there was a natural event like a mud flood* and that has been proven. It almost looks like a carnival hype.. find gold and it's yours..for 25 cents you can dig or it's foundation pillars...but that is not attacked like a building site would be. I think digging out from a global event.