This is why Carol is my favorite character. She went from a scared delicate flower to this badass who is the only one truly willing to do what needs to be done to ensure everyones survival.
Fun fact: The burning walkers came from the house Beth and Daryl burned down, which is what Carol and Mika saw in the distance. I love how close but how far apart all the characters are. Great episode.
In Carol's place I don't think I would have been able to kill Lizzie unless she was coming directly at me with a knife or something. Killing a little girl who was insane and therefore didn't mean to cause literal harm (even though she obviously did) would be far beyond my mental capacity.
@@Bro-cx2jc in this situation (an apocalyptic) it's life and death she didn't have a choose she and other would have died cause of Lizzie she had to do what kept her alive and others
So I'm fairly sure that Lizzie was schizophrenic, because she said that she could hear them and she genuinely believed it. I think she might have had a pyschotic break either when the outbreak happened, or when her dad died. I think the reason she didnt feel remorseful after killing Mika is because she truly believed that Mika was going to come back and be fine. Its sad, but Carol did what had to be done. There were no therapists to help Lizzie and she was too far gone anyway.
I think it was when their dad died. With a parent around, and a whole community at the prison, Lizzie was still not too far gone, even if she was feeding walkers dead rats at the fence.
@@Bro-cx2jc I agree. I think the big one was their dad dying but possibly having to suddenly leave the prison like they did (and killing two people to save Tyresse) might have had part in pushing her further as well
@@eagleblaze4434 Didn't she and the other kids name the walkers at the start of S4 before the flu outbreak that resulted in her fathers death though? her psychotic break was likely before they had joined up with Rick's group at the prison or sometime between that and episode 1.
This is like in the book "Of Mice and Men" when George was telling Lennie about the farm they would live on before he killed him because Lennie had become a danger to himself and others. George loved Lennie but he had to kill him just like Carol loved Lizzie but she had to die.
Lizzie wasn’t just a threat to anyone she would come across. She was a threat to Judith. If they let her live she probably would’ve killed someone else in the future, but even if she didn’t, she definitely still would’ve killed Judith. But had they let her live and left her alone somewhere (without her following them or something), she probably would’ve had a miserable rest of her days, and an agonizing death. She wouldn’t suffer from a bullet to the head, but she’d suffer from basically anything else. Starvation, dehydration, lack of rest, being eaten alive, whatever horrific things people could do to her, those would all cause much more suffering. It’s a horrible decision to have to make and a horrible thing to have to do, but I understand why it was done. Safer for everyone.
Four years late, oops 5 years. It does kick you in the heels. I can’t imagine doing it. It’s a terrible thing to have to do. It’s also a huge moral dilemma. None of us can really know what we would actually be capable of after so much trauma.
Fun fact: Melissa McBride didnt even have to audition for The Walking Dead. We can see why! Plus she had worked for the man that adapted the comic to tv and was the Showrunner Frank Darabont. She worked in his movie The Mist which also featured Andrea and Dale from TWD!
So sad what happened to Mika. I was hoping the writers didn't kill her character off cuz I thought she could've been like Beth. Even they think they are weak or not ready to take action, when tested they are strong independent females. Both are learning from pros. Beth was learning from Daryl and Mika could've learned many things from Carol. Then maybe eventually these two would become these stealthy badasses that no one expected. It's also sad seeing how messed up in the head Lizzie got. What a hard decision Carol had to make. So heartbreaking. Great acting in this episode by everyone. - Yvette
The only other thing I could think of that Lizzie could’ve had happen to her is Carol locking her in a room with Mica after she turned, just to show her what happened. But that would’ve been insanely cruel, even if it “made her realize”. This was the only way. She was a danger to Judith.
Yea that's a bit uncalled for given her mind was warped and she didn't kill her out of malice. Now if this were an adult who did it with malicious intent, then yes, they should go out in the worst way possible.
Yes in our world sometimes children with sociopathic and psychotic tendencies can be saved. But in a world where medical drugs, therapies and doctors don’t exist anymore…the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Keeping her alive was a danger to anyone she would’ve been around. There was no telling when another psychotic episode would happen…it’s sad but that’s the harsh truth of a post apocalyptic world
Yea...this is the definition of heartbreak. But that ending sneak peek though🤣🤣 I don’t know which to talk about first, it was like a montage of mischief 😂😂 can’t wait for the next episode.
@@geezygonz6720 Wish either one of you would explain how I spoiled anything. I said the word "bite", and you act as if they would know anything referring to that.
@@jhonny1416 comic book accuracy and it gives more heft to the scene. Even though it's just a word, it can still do a lot. Also it sounds stronger than "They're screwing with the wrong people."
Oh no! I binged your reactions to the cutoff point =(... I really love seeing Molly's reactions (they're so animated); they always crack me up. Looking forward to the next installment.
The girl on the left was so stoked for a reaction, it was frickin distracting. I bet your friends were like “Can she stop staring at us so we can watch this...?”
This is the saddest episode of the entire show for me. Up until this point adults were getting killed left right and centre but seeing kids go too was unexpected and really depressing. Lizzie is only a child but simply wouldn't have survived much longer and was too far gone. It takes someone like Carol is do the only thing that could be done. It was effectively a mercy killing as they could have just abandoned her to the walkers.
A fragile mind that is broken can never fully heal with such sorrow as its pain. Liszt had no idea what lies beneath the way to insanity. It was a hard death to see.
I agree. Though she believed they were going to die horribly already and she believed she was stopping the illness from spreading. So, yeah, it was a mistake, but I don’t fault her for it as much as many folks do.
If I was Carol I would do the same. But it was severely fuck up my mental state for ever. Killing a person that's coming at you. It's easy to rationalize that so you don't feel any guilt. But to kill a child... Especially an unarmed one.. who is close to you. That would haunt me. I understand why she did and I agree it was the best and only course of action for the safety of Judith. But man it hurts the soul.
I assume you say this in jest. But it was actually a question that quite a few people had. And to those people I say, "Are you watching the show on a phone? Why would you do that?" Clearly Judith was on Tyreeses back when they were walking away. If you watch the show (or any show) on a phone just don't comment. Because you will miss things. Just watch it on a real TV.
This is why Carol is my favorite character. She went from a scared delicate flower to this badass who is the only one truly willing to do what needs to be done to ensure everyones survival.
my fav charecter was merele daryls brother then hertchel and they killed him fml
My absolute favorite changes from the comics are Carol and Daryl.
Well, not everyone
And back to a delicate "flower" 👁️👄👁️
@@insertkawaiinamehere4398 She's not a delicate flower again, wtf. She lost her mind a little bit but she's still a certified badass.
Fun fact: The burning walkers came from the house Beth and Daryl burned down, which is what Carol and Mika saw in the distance. I love how close but how far apart all the characters are. Great episode.
I never made this connection...
I never put that together. I remember being upset that we were never told what the fire in the distance was. Now it all makes sense
Wow I did not know that 😮
I'm sorry in advance if this makes me sound insensitive, but Lizzie had to go in order to keep Judith safe. Lizzie was too dangerous to be left alive.
You're right. I don't blame Carol for doing what she did
In Carol's place I don't think I would have been able to kill Lizzie unless she was coming directly at me with a knife or something. Killing a little girl who was insane and therefore didn't mean to cause literal harm (even though she obviously did) would be far beyond my mental capacity.
no she must stand trial, its not the jedi way
@@ShuffleUpandDeal32 Imagine persecuting me because I don't have it in me to murder a little girl.
@@Bro-cx2jc in this situation (an apocalyptic) it's life and death she didn't have a choose she and other would have died cause of Lizzie she had to do what kept her alive and others
This is such a good episode. Melissa is such an amazing actress.
@@freddiewolfe545 the person who plays carol dumbass
Freddie dumb asshole. Got owned and still came back for more LOL idiot
Melissa Mcbride bought a car from me a few years ago. Such a, super nice lady. Love her back when she was on Dawson's Creek
I’m five years late, but I absolutely agree.
The deer appearing is so symbolic representing, Mica was the normal one.
Good eyes
So I'm fairly sure that Lizzie was schizophrenic, because she said that she could hear them and she genuinely believed it. I think she might have had a pyschotic break either when the outbreak happened, or when her dad died. I think the reason she didnt feel remorseful after killing Mika is because she truly believed that Mika was going to come back and be fine. Its sad, but Carol did what had to be done. There were no therapists to help Lizzie and she was too far gone anyway.
I think it was when their dad died. With a parent around, and a whole community at the prison, Lizzie was still not too far gone, even if she was feeding walkers dead rats at the fence.
@@Bro-cx2jc I agree. I think the big one was their dad dying but possibly having to suddenly leave the prison like they did (and killing two people to save Tyresse) might have had part in pushing her further as well
@@eagleblaze4434 Didn't she and the other kids name the walkers at the start of S4 before the flu outbreak that resulted in her fathers death though? her psychotic break was likely before they had joined up with Rick's group at the prison or sometime between that and episode 1.
@@pzychoticz I meant like the full break, where she started completely unraveling
“Just look at the flowers”
I use this line so much haha
This line is very emotional
This is like in the book "Of Mice and Men" when George was telling Lennie about the farm they would live on before he killed him because Lennie had become a danger to himself and others. George loved Lennie but he had to kill him just like Carol loved Lizzie but she had to die.
Old Yeller
YES, i remember brighton sharbino (lizzie) surprising me the first time i saw this with her acting, everyone in this episode did so good!!
This episode definitely isnt underrated. It's one of the most watched and one of highest rated of the entire show
Lizzie wasn’t just a threat to anyone she would come across. She was a threat to Judith. If they let her live she probably would’ve killed someone else in the future, but even if she didn’t, she definitely still would’ve killed Judith.
But had they let her live and left her alone somewhere (without her following them or something), she probably would’ve had a miserable rest of her days, and an agonizing death. She wouldn’t suffer from a bullet to the head, but she’d suffer from basically anything else. Starvation, dehydration, lack of rest, being eaten alive, whatever horrific things people could do to her, those would all cause much more suffering. It’s a horrible decision to have to make and a horrible thing to have to do, but I understand why it was done. Safer for everyone.
Cannot wait for the finale.
oml
when y'all watched Dale die: *uncontrolable laughter*
when the crazy little girl dies: *depressing mood*
eXcuSe mE wTf
I think it's because Carol had to murder a kid...
when you have kids of your own esp daughters, this shit really kicks you in the feels.
Four years late, oops 5 years.
It does kick you in the heels. I can’t imagine doing it. It’s a terrible thing to have to do. It’s also a huge moral dilemma. None of us can really know what we would actually be capable of after so much trauma.
I have seen this quite a few times, and I still cry. Melissa McB. is such a great actor, and should have won an Emmy for this episode.
She won a couple of awards for this, but yes should have been an Emmy too.
Agreed 💯
This would no doubt be the hardest choice/thing to do in the zombie apocalypse.
I don't think I'd have it in me. I'd have to deliberately wait until Lizzie was coming at me with a knife and murder on her mind.
Definitely not, the hardest choice would be deciding whether to shoot her or save the ammo and bonk her over the head.
Fun fact: Melissa McBride didnt even have to audition for The Walking Dead. We can see why! Plus she had worked for the man that adapted the comic to tv and was the Showrunner Frank Darabont. She worked in his movie The Mist which also featured Andrea and Dale from TWD!
I think she only expected to be in a couple of episodes.
Came to watch this video in a heart-beat happy new years btw PS Courtney i love ya lol
That table scene between Tyreese and Carol is always so intense
So sad what happened to Mika. I was hoping the writers didn't kill her character off cuz I thought she could've been like Beth. Even they think they are weak or not ready to take action, when tested they are strong independent females. Both are learning from pros. Beth was learning from Daryl and Mika could've learned many things from Carol. Then maybe eventually these two would become these stealthy badasses that no one expected. It's also sad seeing how messed up in the head Lizzie got. What a hard decision Carol had to make. So heartbreaking. Great acting in this episode by everyone.
- Yvette
The only other thing I could think of that Lizzie could’ve had happen to her is Carol locking her in a room with Mica after she turned, just to show her what happened. But that would’ve been insanely cruel, even if it “made her realize”. This was the only way. She was a danger to Judith.
Yea that's a bit uncalled for given her mind was warped and she didn't kill her out of malice. Now if this were an adult who did it with malicious intent, then yes, they should go out in the worst way possible.
Yeah it may be cruel but she might not have needed to die if they did that even if she was crazy.
I don’t see that being effective. I think Lizzie would have let Mika bite her.
Yes in our world sometimes children with sociopathic and psychotic tendencies can be saved. But in a world where medical drugs, therapies and doctors don’t exist anymore…the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Keeping her alive was a danger to anyone she would’ve been around. There was no telling when another psychotic episode would happen…it’s sad but that’s the harsh truth of a post apocalyptic world
Yea...this is the definition of heartbreak.
But that ending sneak peek though🤣🤣 I don’t know which to talk about first, it was like a montage of mischief 😂😂 can’t wait for the next episode.
Whatever I mean I understand. I do, it’s just that She had to kill a kid....honestly I don’t think I could do that.
Tyrese is like "Crazy white people..."
Yep haha as a white person I agree
Another 3 years and they might be caught up
Can't wait to see their reaction to the "bite" scene in 4x16!
Me neither
Wtf stfu
@@Poopie22 Why?
@@webapp31 Spoilers
@@geezygonz6720 Wish either one of you would explain how I spoiled anything. I said the word "bite", and you act as if they would know anything referring to that.
This is my all time favorite episode of the walking dead! Your reaction was priceless!
PLEASE make sure you get the uncensored finale it is 10000000000 times better!!!!
Just for a fucking Word?.
@@jhonny1416 makes it ten times better
@@jhonny1416 It's also exactly what Rick says in the comics rather than the censored version they had to go with on television.
@@bobbyriesco6420 Is just a word
@@jhonny1416 comic book accuracy and it gives more heft to the scene. Even though it's just a word, it can still do a lot. Also it sounds stronger than "They're screwing with the wrong people."
This was everywhere at that time. "Look at the flowers " was even a meme. Idk how you guys NEVER saw this. Thats cray
Like the Rick confronting Carl being gay meme when he cries at the prison
What people don't realize is if a zombie apocalypse actually happened this would be reality in a nutshell it's not a world you want to ever live in
Yay I was so excited for this episode reaction 🙌🏼😊
You probably had to wait a year for them to react to it! lol
One of my fave episodes of all time.
Oh no! I binged your reactions to the cutoff point =(... I really love seeing Molly's reactions (they're so animated); they always crack me up. Looking forward to the next installment.
The girl on the left was so stoked for a reaction, it was frickin distracting. I bet your friends were like “Can she stop staring at us so we can watch this...?”
3:39 lizzie points her gun at her mom
5:19 lizzie says sorry for pointing her gan at her mom
Oh my heart
All the three of you are goldies! :) I loved your reactions as always! A shy meow and greetings from Switzerland. :)
This is the one i most cried is such a good episode
This episode and Glenn/Abraham death are the hardest hitting episodes for me
Courtney looks so different from back in like when she reacted to season 2
I swear you guys are going to be responsible for a lot of people on the west coast being reprimanded at work today.☺☺☺ .Happy New year!
3:07 how the hell do you have all the lights on in your house?? I basically live in the dark
I was jumping with joy when Carol shot Lizzie
you have to understand in a world gone crazy where the dead come back to life- children would be very confused- it's a pretty realistic situation
This is the saddest episode of the entire show for me. Up until this point adults were getting killed left right and centre but seeing kids go too was unexpected and really depressing. Lizzie is only a child but simply wouldn't have survived much longer and was too far gone. It takes someone like Carol is do the only thing that could be done. It was effectively a mercy killing as they could have just abandoned her to the walkers.
Definitely one of the darkest episodes
A fragile mind that is broken can never fully heal with such sorrow as its pain. Liszt had no idea what lies beneath the way to insanity. It was a hard death to see.
5:38 Had to take Ole Yeller out back
“Isn’t that a good episode?”
*”N O”*
6:10
Looking into the camera. Now it'd time to get shocked 😏😏😏🤦🏽♀️
The puzzle on the table in front of tyreese and Carol is Sophia as a walker
I don’t think it was her as a walker. You can look up the picture. It’s her with the doll.
I remember when this episode first aired. I was so shocked at it.
Poor Lizzie but she had to die or else we wouldn’t have seen Judith
Tyreese is a better, and more forgiving human being than 99.99999% of us I think. :)
omg sis was gonna laugh 😂😂 im dying rnnnn
0:14 oh yea these girls are gonna feel emotional after lizzies death I can feel it
I think ptsd is something most people would overlook if things went down like this
its like someone is having a fit upstairs
I cry every time i watch it, its beautiful work
Carol is my favorite character but he biggest mistake was killing Karen and David.
I agree. Though she believed they were going to die horribly already and she believed she was stopping the illness from spreading.
So, yeah, it was a mistake, but I don’t fault her for it as much as many folks do.
5:22
Yeah That's the problem
This is very "of mice and men"
just look at the flowers, lennie
Just watching this episode i cant wait to see what happens between Carol and the whispers
No remorse because she is damaged...she doesn't see it like that
If I was Carol I would do the same. But it was severely fuck up my mental state for ever. Killing a person that's coming at you. It's easy to rationalize that so you don't feel any guilt. But to kill a child... Especially an unarmed one.. who is close to you. That would haunt me. I understand why she did and I agree it was the best and only course of action for the safety of Judith. But man it hurts the soul.
I WAS OBSESSED WITH MIKA AND LIZZIE 💔💔 (lizzie was my fav before she turned physio, mika was my favorite out of them after that)
That kill was fucking due a whole season ago!
Lizzie would have been a great whisperer. Lol
Man, i remember this episode😢
The worst thing for a mother lioness is when she has to shoot her Young! Great reaction Lia!!!
I didn’t know lions could shoot guns...
@@fivebyfive88 😂
What an episode!
This is got to be one of the best episodes and at the same time so upsetting.
gave lizzie a proper of mice and men ending XD
Look at the rabbits Lenny......
Btw Lia, you should react to Thanos vs Darkseid from screw attack
This episode reminded me of the old movie Of Mice and Men
I haven’t looked at flowers the same since
Happy Lia
I don’t understand why did Lizzie do that and what did she mean by change I didn’t watch the show
Saw the episode nobody and the first words out of my mouth were "Oh sh!#
Thank you guys for another great vid!!
When this episode aired I had to go watch dbz for a while to stop freaking out
If possible watch the version of the finale with "they're FUCKING with the wrong people."
This episode really got to me. I have nieces around that age. I can't imagion.
36 people need to look at the flowers
the finale is gonna be insane and the season 5 premiere too!!!
You're ballerinas! Wow!!
This is one of the storylines the show did WAY better than the comics...
I don't watch the walking dead but Lizzie's scene got me all fucked in the head...
Tyrees is like… “white ppl. “…. BAHAHHAHA TRUTH THO
And I get to tend the rabbits!!!
One of my favorite episode...good reactions!
It's nice to see youin girls together again!
Hey, where is the baby? She killed the baby too?
I assume you say this in jest. But it was actually a question that quite a few people had. And to those people I say, "Are you watching the show on a phone? Why would you do that?" Clearly Judith was on Tyreeses back when they were walking away. If you watch the show (or any show) on a phone just don't comment. Because you will miss things. Just watch it on a real TV.
This episode is old as hell. Even a casual fan would know that Judith is alive and well (and like 12 by now)
She’s smoking that next level shit
This is one of the hardest episodes to watch
Do they ever show that lizzie is dead, like a body?
Man what is with carol and dead little girls am i right?
And dead boys lol
well u didnt let us watch full epsoide dude
Man sucks about the heater. West Coast the Best Coast
Just look at the flowers
My all time favorite episode