Hey I just wanted to ask pls make a part 2 of the cryptid video and I have a very lost cryptid it's called ambize so it looks like a fish but it has the head of a ox or pig it has I frill tail and has human like hands it's known in Africa anyways it a lost cryptid so please include it when you make a part 2 of the lost cryptid video
I’ll always maintain that if they actually let Goofy die and had Max replace him it would’ve added the right dose of emotional weight to an otherwise meh climax
@@Waaagh40KRed Feel like Pj would be harder to squeeze in KH than Max due to Pete's whole situation. Like what would PJ been doing during the time of his dad's banishment? Who took him in, the Goofs?
True. My guess is with the kid version, Disney does not use that version of him out of respect for Dana Hill, who was the character's VA for Goof Troop and died in 1996 as she had Type I Diabetes that affected her physical growth.
I agree. Disney seems to not bring him back possibly out of respect for the late voice actress who voiced him in Goof Troop (so if he is brought back, it will be as an adult, although his kid version did cameo in a photo Goofy shows Donald in the DuckTales reboot).
Max was great, it's so extremely weird he was just excised from Disney canon. Goof Troop was fine but A Goofy Movie is absolutely fantastic, it's such a good story. And then An Extremely Goofy Movie Happened and that movie fucking sucked. It's probably to do with how Disney wants Goofy to have a universal appeal, and it's hard for a kid to empathize with an adult and REALLY hard for one to empathize with a father. But that's what Max is for, keep him a preteen and you can have both characters with both appeals.
It really sucks Max was just pushed aside as a character now because he was a pretty good character and I felt he would’ve been a character that would’ve been grown upon more and I too adore his dynamic with Goofy and Goofy as a father is just golden
I never watched the 2017 Ducktales reboot, but I think it's a missed opportunity not having him at least meet Donald's nephews, if not befriend/hangout with them. I imagine they'd be somewhat close in age.
It's always interesting to see which characters get expanded and which are allowed to disappear. I doubt anybody expected that Scrooge McDuck would be a regular occurrence following his creation for Disney's animated version of a Christmas Carol.
As a dude who was born in 88 and grew up with the Nintendo Power magazines (I was spoiled, had a subscription, a nes, a snes.... and a genesis), the general sense of humour, especially for young boys at the time, was definitely gross out humour. other popular things at the time were the garbage pail kids, a 'gross out' take on the cabbage patch kids. Even up in Canada we had a lot of stuff like that... Shows like Freaky Stories, hosted by a maggot and a cockroach and would tell urban legends like the "rat that someone thought was a chihuahua" and "pillow stuffed with spider eggs". I even remember the maggot puppet being all goopy. So these weird, seeming out of place gross ads were definitely very normal for the time when advertising to kids.
YW! it's so cool to see the generation after me discovering these magazines... I have lots of nostalgia for them, memories of spending HOURS just reading through my issues. XD
A lost character I would suggest is Bruno the trash man from Sesame Street let me explain Bruno was created to carry Oscar the grouch around manly the reason why Bruno was created was to take Oscar places with out Oscar leavening his trash can (and it was easier for the puppeteer sadly during some new episodes of Sesame Street his puppet was falling apart and soon it was decided not to rebuild him like other puppets and that’s basically how the story ends
wanna know a REALy insane coincidence? bruno from encanto was origonally meant to be named oscar. Nothing to do with the sesame street characters, but i think its pretty funny tbh
Missing character idea: Roxanne ( from the goofy movie ) she didn’t appear in the goof troop movie. Then she was set to appear in some Goofy Christmas special but was replaced because of animation difficulties. Then in the house of mouse Roxanne appeared. Then like Max was never seen again until ducktales where she is on one of the photos.
How about Peg, Pistol, and Chainsaw? Appeared in Goof Troop, not in the time skip A Goofy Movie. Clearly she had quite enough of Pete's crap, divorced him, took Pistol, Chainsaw, and his Auto Dealership in the settlement. I'm sure Pete bought the RV with the last of the money he had, and now has to work retail with Goofy.
@@mightyfilm Nah, Kevin Lima confirmed they didn't divorced, but they wanted the father-son dynamic in the movie so Peg and Pistol's inclusion would have been dificult.
@@Mari_Izu It's weird that's the case. The characters are never so much as mentioned, Pete appears to have a retail job when he had that car dealership. It's hard not to fill in those pieces without making it look like Pete's life took a turn. I could see some separation or something that gives Pete a better appreciation for his son.
Mac Tonight is also somewhat the unofficial mascot for the Vaporwave scene here on TH-cam, mainly through Saint Pepsi. A lot of discussions involving Mac tend to leave this out, which i think is a disservice when talking about the character's legacy, as he's still used in a positive way. His ads have a Dream-like atmospheric theme which matches well with Vaporwave. I recommend checking it out. Honey (music video) by Saint Pepsi 2years ago is pretty good. That's how I was introduced to him.
THAT is what the character should be used for. Vaporwave was all about that long forgotten feeling of a 1980's that only existed in the minds of those where were born after 1990 gleaned from watching YT commercial compilations. If there's any character that perfectly captured that positive capitalist nostalgia idealism, it's Mac. Hell, he's nostalgia inception. 80's nostalgia for 50's nostalgia. Moon Man's just a lazy Gen -Xer, early Millennial shock for shocks sake meme. I find it more offensive as an attempt at humor than I do for the intentional trolling it was made for. I want my dream-like Mac back.
There was a music tournament going on (now canceled due to reasons) where different characters from all walks of life were there, and Mac Tonight was one of the main characters. He represented music about Fast Food and its Brands, Vaporwave, Night, the Moon, and Piano-based music. In his reveal trailer, he was just looking back at his past, sad at no longer being able to live in the limelight. Wanting to go back to what he once had, to be back tonight, even for just a night, leaving him to being one of the most endearing contestants the tournament had.
The thing about Max is, I believe he is canon. They already made a movie with Goofy and Max as an adult. In an extremely goofy movie some lady tells Goofy to go back to college when goofy replies " I was there in the seventies, I'm to old to go back now". Assuming Goofy was in his 20's in the seventies he would be around 50 at the start of an extremely goofy movie. Any further continuations would make Goofy 50+. And in a world where Mickey mouse and Donald duck don't really age, this can present a problem.
I've got a story that is scary, funny and sad all together. When I was around 20 years old, I went a McDonald's located in Orlando Florida with my (At the time) girlfriend. This particular location was dubbed "The World's Biggest Play Place" and had 2 floors of playground equipment and arcade games all indoors. After getting our food we tried to find somewhere to sit and eat without a bunch of kids running and climbing on top of everything while their parents just wanted to soak up the air-condition. I eventually noticed an entire section on the opposite side of the building. As I entered the section I looked up and there he was, a life sized 😯 MAC TONIGHT sitting at his piano. I got excited when I seen him but nobody else around seemed to remember him. So from that day forward I would always go back to that same McDonald's and sit in the same section. Fast forward a few years and I have two kids with that same girl (At this time she had become my "At the time" wife) My kids were around 3 and 5 at the time when they asked me what the big deal was and why I always say there next to Mac. My kids thought he was the coolest thing ever and then it became OUR THING to do every year. And so a few more years by and the boys are now 10 and 8 and it's just the three of us (Divorced from the girl) We start walking over to our section when one of my boys talks about how "Mom" hated coming to McDonald's and would always bitch about it every year. She didn't understand what the Big Deal was about a "Stupid Moon" that just sat there or why the 3 of us were so damn happy every time we walked in the doors. The 3 of us sat there and one of them says "He's not a stupid moon, his name is MAC TONIGHT!!! Hey Mac, play the piano for us" THEN IT HAPPENED.... MAC TONIGHT STARTED PLAYING THE PIANO AND SINGING 😯😯😯😯 We just sat there looking at each other in amazement when my youngest son looked at me and said "See Dad, we always told "Mom" that he wasn't a stupid moon" 🥲
You might appreciate this video then! - th-cam.com/video/kRuQufNQ4fA/w-d-xo.html It's one of the few times I've seen him in proper working order, he moves faster than you'd think!
As someone who's in the Thomas fandom, I really appreciate the inclusion of BoCo here. He's definitely one of the many characters that has fallen from the show runners. Although I would like you to know of the sad end of the CGI Thomas series, and has thus so has been replaced with a 2d version titled "All Engines Go". They basically went from square one and took out all the realism. Heck the fandom just learned Toby was being introduced, someone who was a main for a long time in the original shows run. As much as I love the happy note, there little to none chance now we'll ever see the lovable green diesel again, but as you said, we will never give up hope
It's weird how Max hasn't made any new appearances in media. With a more modern cultural flair, a reboot of his teenage character would be very popular and relatable with Gen Z
Let's collectively bring back Mac tonight I understand that a lot of organizations officially labeled him and his image as hate speech but we can easily regain his original purpose #Bringbackmactonight
Mac Tonight is the saddest case of a lost character… his company abandoned him, the society he catered to assassinated his personality, and his likeness is considered nothing more than a hate symbol… thinking about this genuinely upsets me, he didn’t deserve this!
Actually Max has also appeared in another christmas special that was made with CGI it was about Max bringing home his GF to Goofys house for christmas and at first Goofy was embarrasing him and just being Goofy and then Max starts growing distant from him and then he learns that his Dad isn't that bad when he sees his GF having fun with him, it was a childhood favourite for me
Speaking of Mac Tonight, and Max Headroom (and the California Raisins, for that matter), can we all just take a moment to acknowledge that 1980s advertising was honestly the peak of advertising?
Back then you could run 30 minute advertisements directly straight to kids. I think part of why the ads were so much better was that there wasn't as much ad time in programming allowed, so rather than paying to have the same commercial run a million times, a bit of extra money to make something a bit better made more sense.
Fun Fact: Mac Tonight was physically performed by Doug Jones, the tall, lanky guy used in a bunch of Guillermo del Toro movies. He was Abe Sapien physically in both of the original Hellboy movies and played Abe entirely in the second (as well as the Angel of Death) as well as voicing him in the animated movies and the video game. He also played the Pale Man and the Faun in Pan's Labyrinth, the ghosts in Crimson Peak and the amphibian man in Shape of Water. He was physically the Silver Surfer in the second Fantastic Four. He was also Saru in Star Trek Discovery, was in both of the Hocus Pocus movies. Much much more. But in fact, Mac Tonight was his first.
I’m so happy that you covered Mac tonight in this video, I’ll be real the Internet in the early 2000’s did him dirty. If anyone’s want to find good representation (or that is not “Moon man” related) definitely check out the Mcbusters or the disturbance.
Fun Fact: In Married with Children, There used to be a character named Seven who was added in Season 7 and was ment to be the 3rd kid in the Bundy family. But quickly vanished after only 12 episode without any form of information on what happened to him. Only having a cameo in a milk carton. He's basically the kid version of Chuck Cunningham.
I only found out Mac Tonight's existence through a fnaf fan game that featured him as a kid. Finding out his history and what they did to him is just sad.
14:29 Fun Fact: one of the head writers for the show attempted to bring BoCo, alongside another character, Hank, back into CGI, but the ideas were shot down by Mattel, who claimed there were more than enough male characters in the show already.
I have a suggestion for another lost character: Voltaire the Vulture from 'Who Framed Rodger Rabbit?' Essentially Judge Doom was originally going to have a pet vulture named Voltaire, who'd carry out Doom's dirty work (i.e. dropping bricks on people). Eventually he was replaced by the Toon Patrol as they were given more prominent screen time. In fact, we only know about Voltaire's existence from two sources: the NES game and a series of bendy action figures of which he was packaged alongside Doom. The fact that he still appeared in some merchandise shows that he was scrapped well into the film's production. And the production of merchandise has to be designed and approved well ahead of time to coincide with the release of a movie; so a lot of scrapped characters, ideas and design choices tend to resurface that way. Another good example would be early Simpsons merch with Bart having a blue shirt instead of red or the Moana Lego sets, where you'd have a stoic Heihei figure instead of the dopey one in the final film (a figure which I happen to own, lol). P.S. congrats on the 100K! ☺
Bonus lost characters: there were originally going to be seven weasels following judge doom, making them Judge Doom and the Seven Weasels, an obvious Snow White parallel. They were cut down to five weasels for complications animating that many characters on screen at once.
I was born in 2000 and first knew of Mac as he is and not a symbol of hate, I had no idea that was a thing and am confused how people would put those two together in the first place. It’s a shame the light in some people are so dim.
Wow, so sad to hear about Mac Tonight! I remember those commercials from my childhood & I had one of his Happy Meal toys. I used to make him do little concerts for my other toys!
I was so excited when volume 100 of Nintendo Power brought back Nester for a special comic. I was hoping he'd be back for good, but it was just a one issue event. 25 years later and that still annoys me, LOL.
Oof! Seeing Max on this list really hurt my heart. I get it, he was never that strong a character on his own and was very much a product of his time. But, he's Goofy's SON. And he really helped round Goofy out into a surprisingly deep and heartfelt character. To the point where he's the only one now who feels like an actual CHARACTER and not just a corporate mascot. Goofy remains my favorite of the OG Disney gang largely due to this. I really, really, REALLY hope they bring Max back so we can see that side of him again.
Either I'm going crazy, or they gave Nester a sister for the Virtual Boy game that Zeepsterd never mentioned. They were an original character who only appeared in that game. But once again, I could be going crazy.
@@EchoGulch64yeah exactly Nester does have a sister and yeah that’s her name it’s crazy to think she only appear on a forgotten game for a forgotten game console
It’s kinda cool and emotional that Nester got a final comic on the last issues of Nintendo power and giving us a final goodbye I sorta wished he came back for Nintendo TH-cam game highlights on their directs or his son that’ll be cool imo
Something about lost pieces of media is... unnerving. I dunno why but it's probably because most of the time they don't tell anyone or give a reason, they just disappear. (congrats on 100,000!)
Horace Horsecollar has more tragic story. He was Mickey's best friend and pal , until Goofy and Donald appeared in 1930s. He became a forgotten character , that had a potential. In 90s he had a chance to get his own cartoon series , but the "Maximum Horsepower" was cancelled. Now he appear only as cameo , if he is appearing in modern cartoons of Mickey Mouse. #SupportHoraceHorsecollar
I actually remember Mac night when from I was a kid (I’m 17 btw). There was a Mac knight animatronic in the big MC Donald’s I went to as a kid, that had two stories and a arcade on the second story
I have a lost character that is staying lost, Bumpkin Kong/Farmer Kong, he appeared as a playable character for a demo of a Donkey Kong Racing Game, and never appeared again, and the devs of that demo said “He’s dead now anyways” LIKE DAMN! They killed him off before he could make it to a full game
Mac Tonight the late night campaign for McDonalds of the 90s I wasn't a 90s kid despite being a 90s baby since I was born in 99 but I heard that people loved that Moon Man I remember going to the Biggest McDonald's as a kid and that's when I first saw Mac Tonight Animitronic.
Max did appear in mickeys twice upon a Christmas as an adult with his girlfriend meeting goofy for the 1st time for Christmas. It’s funny because the girl has the same voice actress as Roxanne but it’s not her.
I love Mac Tonight. I'm too young to have ever seen the mascot used. But he's so cool even without the nostalgia factor. For me, I really know him in the vaporwave (and it's subgenres) scene. He's sort of a mascot there, fairly famous and loved. He may have died, been resurrected into a monster for "memes" but to the vaporwave community, he lives on in dreamy nostalgic vibes
The first time i saw him, he was one character in a doom mod( yeah moonman), now in 2022 yt algoritm send me enjoy yourself from saint pepsi, and in the videos was mac Tonight. I can not lie he is a good mascot, maybe eve the best mcdonalds ever created.
I felt so sorry about these characters that never returned. I'm also sorry that both the character and the voice actor died. such as Archer's mother from Archer, Edna from The Simpsons, and even Adam West who plays as himself as the mayor from family guy. why are there so many characters that we love end up disappearing.
That happens a lot. For longer running characters sometimes the voice actor will have to switch multiple times. There's been a fair number of Fred Flintstones over the years, same goes for Mickey Mouse.
You know one character that people haven't requested is Little Miss Calamity from the Mr. Men Show who was in season 1 and then removed because the writers hated her
Virgin Moonman: Thinks that he is "cool", made by basement neckbeards, racist and is just a poor excuse of an edgy meme Chad Mac Tonight: Cool, was really successful, associated with a popular brand and was based off of something popular from the 80's
this video sent me down a rabbit hole of nintendo power comics and mainly H&N, to show my gratitude i will subscribe to your channel and continue to stream your videos.
Just thought I'd mention that Max Goof does appear in Disney Sorcerer's Arena, which is fairly recent. While certainly underutilized these last couple decades, I think calling him a lost character is a bit of a stretch.
After Mac Tonight was let go as a McDonalds mascot, he angrily looked for someone to blame for his termination. After meeting certain groups of disgruntled individuals, he came to the conclusion that certain groups of people in society were to blame. And thus Moon Man was born…
Here are some interesting lost characters -The Porygon line from Pokémon, pretty much never appeared in anything since the incident in Japan. -Eric Cartman's original dad and sister, originally shown only in the south park pilot but were cut completely -if you want another Obscure mcdonalds character you could talk about Speedy, the original mascot before Ronald.
One lost and very interesting character is SpeeDee from McDonalds. he was one of the very first McDonalds mascots and he is very rarely seen today. I love your videos and I hope you choose my suggestion.
It's so bizarre how underutilized Max Goof is when he's a legit Disney fan favorite. Like us KH stans are still hoping he appears in the games some day.
How about a suggestion of 3 lost characters that nobody didn't mention from past videos. The Bug Trio from Phineas and Ferb. They were originally gonna be part of the show from the original Pitch Pilot, but Dan and Swampy, the creators of P&F, thought having 3 plots in a Phineas and Ferb episode would be too complex for kids to understand, which ironically they try that idea with the C plots focus on Candance Flynn most of the time. The Bug Trio only appeared in Doof 101 and the O.W.C.A Flies. The reason why they appeared in one episode and the stand-alone special was because Dan and Swampy tried to find something to fill the B plot rather than shoehorn Phineas and Ferb in those two. The Bug Trio were almost lost characters, but they were reused just because Dan and Swampy didn't know what to do to include P&F for Doof 101 and The O.W.C.A Flies.
If there's a lost character I'd suggest, it'd be Amber from Pokémon. She basically played a role in Mewtwo's backstory, and oh boy do I have alot to geek out about... Back when the anime was still new, and around the time of the Electric Soldier Porygon incident that left the series in a hiatus with even the first movie being affected, they decided to expand on Mewtwo's character arc rather than just making them a simple antagonist. They released a CD Drama called The Birth of Mewtwo, which introduces a deeper story for the scientist that created the genetic Pokémon, Professor Fuji, who not only worked with Team Rocket to clone Mew as an attempted super soldier, but also wanted to clone his deceased daughter to bring her back, that daughter being Amber. His wife leaves him, believing he's gone unhinged, Amber develops a telepathic bond with Mewtwo, acting like a big sister to them as she introduces the world around them, but eventually passes away, leaving Mewtwo traumatized before being injected with an amnesiac serum. The rest of the Drama details Mewtwo's backstory as we know it now, with the genetic Pokémon being born, killing Fuji in blind emotions, working with Team Rocket, only to leave and pursue the events of the first movie. Some of it was even included in an enhanced version of the film, but that whole segment was cut in the American release, being put in as a bonus feature in Mewtwo Returns instead. The thing is, despite how important Amber was to Mewtwo's character arc, and how pretty depressing her overall story was with her grieving father trying to bring her back, only to be killed by his own creation, not only does the rest of Mewtwo's arc have NOTHING to do with her, but nowadays I think she's actually been flat out retconned from the anime's canon. For starters there's the fact that after she's introduced, she disappears entirely to the point where she initially wasn't in the movie, only being added in a later version that the American version cut out. She makes no appearance or even mention in Mewtwo Returns, nor is her presence even anywhere in the most recent episode Mewtwo appeared in, as that episode wasn't even about them. Then they remade the movie as Mewtwo Strikes Back Evolution, with no trace of Amber anywhere other than there's an extra tube near Mewtwo's that implies her existence. Yes, Mewtwo forgot who Amber was, but you mean to tell me they made this tragic character who made one of the most complex characters in the entire franchise who they are just doesn't exist anymore? Honestly, this is just a problem with the anime in general, how poorly they use their characters. I actually left out the fact that the Team Rocket organization get expanded upon too, as Giovanni's mother was established to be the previous leader of the organization back when he was a kid, and Jessie's mother was revealed to have went on an expedition to search for Mew, only to be trapped in a snowstorm, forever alone, implied to still be there to this day of the series' canon, a far cry to how the main series RARELY ever even does anything with the organization, pinning the focus on the trio to the point where Ash never even officially meets Giovanni until Unova and proceeded to never interact with him again. They really could've taken the opportunity to continue Mewtwo's story in Journeys, considering they could've fit pretty well with Goh's arc revolving around him wanting to catch Mew, but they only brought the genetic Pokémon in for fanservice and most likely to promote the remake. Man this was a dedication of my time, I need to go out and do something productive with my day, but this was basically my suggestion. Amber from Pokemon to me represents the main flaw of the anime, story wise. It introduces characters with potential and then disposes of them by the next generation until they're worthy of nostalgic fanservice.
About Goofy Movie. Max is not so much rejecting family it's just him and his dad have trouble understanding each other and it causes a bit of trouble sometimes.
If you make another one of these then you should cover Plastic Man's sidekick Woozy Winks. He first appeared in Police Comics #13 back in October 1942 and hasn't made an appearance in anything since the final episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold back in 2011 (although he was mentioned on the cover of Terrifics #15 back in June 2019).
I have asked for this on 3 videos because there is a character perfect for this! Cartmans dad from the unaired pilot of the show. In South Park one of the main leads Eric Cartman notably lacks a father and lives with a single drug addicted sex addicted mother. His mother has a noteable lack of any discipline leading Cartman to walk all over her and getting away with shit like pretending to mentally handicapped to join the special Olympics or infecting his friends with deadly diseases. His lack of a father is a _major_ plot point, the 2 parter "Cartmans Mom Is A Dirty Slut/Cartmans Mom Is Still A Dirty Slut" was all about Cartmans fathers and hertiage and origins, his mother was announced to be a hermaphrodite. However it was revealed later on Cartmans father was a character who had appeared on the show, Jack Tenorman who had killed and feed to his half-brother. Originally in the pilot of South Park, Cartmans had a father who made an appearance but was cut as the pilot was too long.
Congrats on 100k subs my guy! Wanna know something insane? Burger King once tried to cash in on McDonald's land with their own cast of characters (Found out about it through Defunctland).
I have honestly got to say that man is this legit a pretty well made video and also little fun fact about mac tonight in case you didn't know, Was that around a few years ago some people decided to make some fnaf fangames including sequels based on the character mac, along with others being included in the games like hamburglar, grimace, and ect.
I grew up watching and loving the TTTE series (and it literally inspired my bf to work with trains). BoCo was such a great character who was kinda a more fatherly figure(?). Wish he could’ve come back but with (from what I’ve glanced at while taking care of my niece) the 2D revival, idk if he is ngl.
Food mascots are treasure trove of lost characters like kool-aid has enemies called Thirsty's and his own justice league with different colored kool-aid men
You should talk about Phoebe Munster. She was originally the mom of the Munster family in the pilot, but in the rest of the series and the remake of the pilot she was replaced by Lily. This was because she looked too much like Morticia Addams.
There is one flaw with the Max thing. I have seen a few things where Max still speaks including the Disney Fandaze event in Paris where he had a show that was in English.
When I Saw This Video I Thought (he hasn't talked about BoCo from Thomas And Friends) And At 0:03 I Was Gobsmacked To See The Diseasel Footage 10:48 Even If You've Outgrown Thomas The Tank Engine It Still Is A Timeless Classic (Seasons 1-7 And Seasons 17-21), And You Did Very Good Research On The Original Railway Series Books, Even As A Thomas Fan Myself I Try To Keep BoCo How He Once Was As A Character. Seriously Dude You Earned A Subscriber, I Like This Lost Character Series!
A really good lost character is Scrappy Doo, Scooby Doo's nephew. It seems just no one liked him and at some point they just got rid of him from the show. He'd appear as the villian for the live action Scooby Doo movie, and I think they references him in SD and the 13th ghost movie by name only. Also maybe my previously requested character Venus De Milo from TMNT the Next Mutation, only bringing her up again here because a lost characters video fits better.
scooby doo mystery incorporated. Scrappy was one of the villain statues some odd reason. there was no info of why he's even in the villain hall in the 1st place. and was only shown for like 9 seconds. fred just said "we should never speak of it again." it was random but still. "why?"
@@rickydiscord7671 I remember that! I think after the first live action film the creators of the franchise had officially made him a canon villain and slowly had him written out of any more shows until that statue of him in Mystery Incorporated appeared. The stuff Scrappy pulled in the film may have been what Fred was referring to when he told Daphne to never speak of it again.
@@sissysovereign1294 but you got to remember. at the start of the show, nothing was normal. that's why there was a "why" this Scrappy is a villain again.
You've gotten this far without explaining the legend: Felix the cat Yes he's very popular and arguably the most famous among pop culture, but all of the fame did not really save him from being lost. so it will be interesting if you talk about him.
Max goof was shown in 2004's Mickey's Twice Upon A Christmas (but we don't really talk about that "movie") and it shows Max as an adult about to get married.
As someone born WAY past the prime of Nintendo power, I have this weird fondness towards nester, idk I just think he's neat and such a time capsule of marketing Edit: you forgot to mention that nester technically appeared in pilotwings 64 under the indenity of lark (this was briefly mentioned in the 100th issue of Nintendo power), it's likely not at all Canon to fuckin pilotwings 64 lore but it's still interesting nonetheless
Speaking of pilotwings, I think the cast of 64 could be a good topic for another one of these videos, considering how even smash doesn't reference them or their game at all, hell, it took them nearly 30 fucking years to finally re-release pilotwings 64 to the nso thing
You should watch EmpLemon's video on Mac Tonight. Apparently the original character of Mack the Knife was from The Beggars Opera where he was a genuine underclass heel.
Another "lost" character would probably be Felix The Cat, he hasn't really appeared in much and hasn't had a tv series since the late 90's I'm pretty sure. He doesn't get the recognition he deserves, he should be just as iconic as Mickey Mouse if you ask me, he truly is one of the pioneers of cartoons.
My name was published in Nintendo Power magazine for beating Power Blade when I was like 12 years old, and my friend was in one for his high score in Tetris
you should really do a video on hoax lost characters. you tackled graggle and sparky before but i think theres still plenty of them left. my personal favorite has to be haruno higashikata
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Thanks for using my idea!
Should’ve talked about talking pierre
Hey I just wanted to ask pls make a part 2 of the cryptid video and I have a very lost cryptid it's called ambize so it looks like a fish but it has the head of a ox or pig it has I frill tail and has human like hands it's known in Africa anyways it a lost cryptid so please include it when you make a part 2 of the lost cryptid video
I only knew about Mac tonight cuz of someone made a FNAF fan made game of him.
Max existing in the Kingdom Hearts universe and Sora learning that one of his best friends is a dad was something I always wanted to see in KH3.
Well... maaaybe in KH4?
I’ll always maintain that if they actually let Goofy die and had Max replace him it would’ve added the right dose of emotional weight to an otherwise meh climax
Maybe kh 4 or some future title
Same here
@@Waaagh40KRed Feel like Pj would be harder to squeeze in KH than Max due to Pete's whole situation. Like what would PJ been doing during the time of his dad's banishment? Who took him in, the Goofs?
I felt sad after Max rarely appears in Disney, he’s really a cool character
True. My guess is with the kid version, Disney does not use that version of him out of respect for Dana Hill, who was the character's VA for Goof Troop and died in 1996 as she had Type I Diabetes that affected her physical growth.
@@jeremyriley1238 but the two movies, A Goofy Movie and An Extreme Goofy Movie, have a male voice actor, Jason Marsden. R.I.P to the woman. Dana Hill.
@@nevaehlheaven Yes, and if Max were to return in a speaking role, it would be the adult version, not the kid.
Agreed, at least the Disney parks allow him to do meet and greets time to time.
So they still have PJ?
I always wanted to see Max make a comeback. Maybe now as an adult.
Really loved their relationship in the movie after all. True classics.
I agree. Disney seems to not bring him back possibly out of respect for the late voice actress who voiced him in Goof Troop (so if he is brought back, it will be as an adult, although his kid version did cameo in a photo Goofy shows Donald in the DuckTales reboot).
An extremely goofy movie which was the sequel shows him grown up in college
Movie title: "An even Goofyer movie"
max actually appears like that in a 2000s disney christmas movie
Max was great, it's so extremely weird he was just excised from Disney canon. Goof Troop was fine but A Goofy Movie is absolutely fantastic, it's such a good story. And then An Extremely Goofy Movie Happened and that movie fucking sucked.
It's probably to do with how Disney wants Goofy to have a universal appeal, and it's hard for a kid to empathize with an adult and REALLY hard for one to empathize with a father. But that's what Max is for, keep him a preteen and you can have both characters with both appeals.
It really sucks Max was just pushed aside as a character now because he was a pretty good character and I felt he would’ve been a character that would’ve been grown upon more and I too adore his dynamic with Goofy and Goofy as a father is just golden
I never watched the 2017 Ducktales reboot, but I think it's a missed opportunity not having him at least meet Donald's nephews, if not befriend/hangout with them. I imagine they'd be somewhat close in age.
It's always interesting to see which characters get expanded and which are allowed to disappear. I doubt anybody expected that Scrooge McDuck would be a regular occurrence following his creation for Disney's animated version of a Christmas Carol.
Wonder how folks think Mickey Mouse's nephews feel. They never get any love...
As a dude who was born in 88 and grew up with the Nintendo Power magazines (I was spoiled, had a subscription, a nes, a snes.... and a genesis), the general sense of humour, especially for young boys at the time, was definitely gross out humour. other popular things at the time were the garbage pail kids, a 'gross out' take on the cabbage patch kids. Even up in Canada we had a lot of stuff like that... Shows like Freaky Stories, hosted by a maggot and a cockroach and would tell urban legends like the "rat that someone thought was a chihuahua" and "pillow stuffed with spider eggs". I even remember the maggot puppet being all goopy. So these weird, seeming out of place gross ads were definitely very normal for the time when advertising to kids.
Thank you for putting these ads into perspective!
YW! it's so cool to see the generation after me discovering these magazines... I have lots of nostalgia for them, memories of spending HOURS just reading through my issues. XD
This gonna blow up soon so i got here early.
A lost character I would suggest is Bruno the trash man from Sesame Street let me explain Bruno was created to carry Oscar the grouch around manly the reason why Bruno was created was to take Oscar places with out Oscar leavening his trash can (and it was easier for the puppeteer sadly during some new episodes of Sesame Street his puppet was falling apart and soon it was decided not to rebuild him like other puppets and that’s basically how the story ends
wanna know a REALy insane coincidence? bruno from encanto was origonally meant to be named oscar. Nothing to do with the sesame street characters, but i think its pretty funny tbh
Have you ever heard of a full stop
This dude was hiding in the shadows of my memory until you blasted him with a big flashlight of nostalgia. Weird.
Best seen from bruno was the end of follow that bird
rare instance of a muppet gettin gone by old age lol.
Missing character idea:
Roxanne ( from the goofy movie ) she didn’t appear in the goof troop movie. Then she was set to appear in some Goofy Christmas special but was replaced because of animation difficulties. Then in the house of mouse Roxanne appeared. Then like Max was never seen again until ducktales where she is on one of the photos.
How about Peg, Pistol, and Chainsaw? Appeared in Goof Troop, not in the time skip A Goofy Movie. Clearly she had quite enough of Pete's crap, divorced him, took Pistol, Chainsaw, and his Auto Dealership in the settlement. I'm sure Pete bought the RV with the last of the money he had, and now has to work retail with Goofy.
@@mightyfilmYeah since I believe that was all three of they’re last appearances and technically ( I think ) they’re first appearance.
Pretty sure it was called "Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas".
@@mightyfilm Nah, Kevin Lima confirmed they didn't divorced, but they wanted the father-son dynamic in the movie so Peg and Pistol's inclusion would have been dificult.
@@Mari_Izu It's weird that's the case. The characters are never so much as mentioned, Pete appears to have a retail job when he had that car dealership. It's hard not to fill in those pieces without making it look like Pete's life took a turn. I could see some separation or something that gives Pete a better appreciation for his son.
It's also worth noting that Mac Tonight became a Vaporwave star after his stint as Moon Man, thanks to Saint Pepsi.
The Enjoy Yourself video goes so hard.
Mac Tonight is also somewhat the unofficial mascot for the Vaporwave scene here on TH-cam, mainly through Saint Pepsi. A lot of discussions involving Mac tend to leave this out, which i think is a disservice when talking about the character's legacy, as he's still used in a positive way. His ads have a Dream-like atmospheric theme which matches well with Vaporwave. I recommend checking it out. Honey (music video) by Saint Pepsi 2years ago is pretty good. That's how I was introduced to him.
All I can think about when I see Mac Tonight is all the old MoonMan songs lmao
Moon man moon man
@@turtleboy1188 cans you see, spi...
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THAT is what the character should be used for. Vaporwave was all about that long forgotten feeling of a 1980's that only existed in the minds of those where were born after 1990 gleaned from watching YT commercial compilations. If there's any character that perfectly captured that positive capitalist nostalgia idealism, it's Mac. Hell, he's nostalgia inception. 80's nostalgia for 50's nostalgia. Moon Man's just a lazy Gen -Xer, early Millennial shock for shocks sake meme. I find it more offensive as an attempt at humor than I do for the intentional trolling it was made for. I want my dream-like Mac back.
There was a music tournament going on (now canceled due to reasons) where different characters from all walks of life were there, and Mac Tonight was one of the main characters. He represented music about Fast Food and its Brands, Vaporwave, Night, the Moon, and Piano-based music. In his reveal trailer, he was just looking back at his past, sad at no longer being able to live in the limelight. Wanting to go back to what he once had, to be back tonight, even for just a night, leaving him to being one of the most endearing contestants the tournament had.
Who were the other contestants
@@IcyDiamond 1) Marvin the Martian [Looney Tunes]
2) Mr. Sandman [Punch Out!]
3) Cory Baxter [Cory in the House is the Best Anime Memes]
4) Octodad [Octodad]
5) Yellow Jackets (Six, Coraline, and Ai Ohto) [Little Nightmares, Coraline, and Wonder Egg Priority)
6) Spider-Noir [Into the Spiderverse]
7) Truck-kun [Isekai Truck Trope]
8) Mac Tonight [McDonald's Commericals]
9) Guitar Warrior [Total Distortion]
10) Gordon Ramsey [Real Life]
11) Despicable Three (Vector, Eduardo Perez, and Balthazar Bratt) [Despicable Me]
12) Major Elmo [Sesame Street Fighter Joke]
13) Scratch & Grounder [Sonic Cartoon]
14) The Frollo Bros (Frollo and Gaston) [The Frollo Bros]
15) The Mind-Boggling Effects [Playstation Magazine Advertisement]
16) Reggie Gigas (Reggie Fils-Aimé & Regigigas) [Nintendo Advertisements and Pokemon]
@@griefingg0lem685 That’s one hell of a lineup, why was it cancelled?
Where was and who was doing this?
YES, this musical tournament is called the Disturbance, definitely check it out.
The thing about Max is, I believe he is canon. They already made a movie with Goofy and Max as an adult. In an extremely goofy movie some lady tells Goofy to go back to college when goofy replies " I was there in the seventies, I'm to old to go back now". Assuming Goofy was in his 20's in the seventies he would be around 50 at the start of an extremely goofy movie. Any further continuations would make Goofy 50+. And in a world where Mickey mouse and Donald duck don't really age, this can present a problem.
Well, my solution would be is just to make Max Goof a timeless character like Mickey, Donald, and Goofy.
I think that's where floating timelines like they use in the Simpsons can be both helpful and quite confusing.
@@maxwasson2000 This or just reboot them every now and then. It works in comics, there's been like at least 50 versions of spiderman at this point.
I've got a story that is scary, funny and sad all together.
When I was around 20 years old, I went a McDonald's located in Orlando Florida with my (At the time) girlfriend. This particular location was dubbed "The World's Biggest Play Place" and had 2 floors of playground equipment and arcade games all indoors. After getting our food we tried to find somewhere to sit and eat without a bunch of kids running and climbing on top of everything while their parents just wanted to soak up the air-condition. I eventually noticed an entire section on the opposite side of the building. As I entered the section I looked up and there he was, a life sized 😯 MAC TONIGHT sitting at his piano. I got excited when I seen him but nobody else around seemed to remember him. So from that day forward I would always go back to that same McDonald's and sit in the same section.
Fast forward a few years and I have two kids with that same girl (At this time she had become my "At the time" wife) My kids were around 3 and 5 at the time when they asked me what the big deal was and why I always say there next to Mac. My kids thought he was the coolest thing ever and then it became OUR THING to do every year. And so a few more years by and the boys are now 10 and 8 and it's just the three of us (Divorced from the girl) We start walking over to our section when one of my boys talks about how "Mom" hated coming to McDonald's and would always bitch about it every year. She didn't understand what the Big Deal was about a "Stupid Moon" that just sat there or why the 3 of us were so damn happy every time we walked in the doors. The 3 of us sat there and one of them says "He's not a stupid moon, his name is MAC TONIGHT!!! Hey Mac, play the piano for us"
THEN IT HAPPENED.... MAC TONIGHT STARTED PLAYING THE PIANO AND SINGING 😯😯😯😯
We just sat there looking at each other in amazement when my youngest son looked at me and said "See Dad, we always told "Mom" that he wasn't a stupid moon" 🥲
You might appreciate this video then! - th-cam.com/video/kRuQufNQ4fA/w-d-xo.html
It's one of the few times I've seen him in proper working order, he moves faster than you'd think!
@@tessfabled4115dude you’re based for that
Fun fact, Mac Tonite was played by wonderful actor Doug Jones from like every Guillermo Del Toro movie under a ton of make-up
Wow, I never knew that.
As someone who's in the Thomas fandom, I really appreciate the inclusion of BoCo here. He's definitely one of the many characters that has fallen from the show runners. Although I would like you to know of the sad end of the CGI Thomas series, and has thus so has been replaced with a 2d version titled "All Engines Go". They basically went from square one and took out all the realism. Heck the fandom just learned Toby was being introduced, someone who was a main for a long time in the original shows run. As much as I love the happy note, there little to none chance now we'll ever see the lovable green diesel again, but as you said, we will never give up hope
It's weird how Max hasn't made any new appearances in media. With a more modern cultural flair, a reboot of his teenage character would be very popular and relatable with Gen Z
Let's collectively bring back Mac tonight I understand that a lot of organizations officially labeled him and his image as hate speech but we can easily regain his original purpose #Bringbackmactonight
When tha clock strikes half past 6 babe its time to head for *A Gold Little Light*
Moonman moonman, cant you see
Mac tonight just reminds me of that guy that hacked the news in the 80s with the weird face he looks creepy lmao
@@jaeman8 like he said, he was designed with that character (Max Headroom) in mind.
@@indicaking we can never continue the song
Mac Tonight is the saddest case of a lost character… his company abandoned him, the society he catered to assassinated his personality, and his likeness is considered nothing more than a hate symbol… thinking about this genuinely upsets me, he didn’t deserve this!
Completely inaccurate nowadays.
E N J O Y Y O U R S E L F
Absolutely, sucks that 4chan and the like always feel the need to ruin things for the rest of us.
Yeah why does everyone have to ruin a good character.
Yeah. It’s honestly really sad that people did this to Mac Tonight..
Actually Max has also appeared in another christmas special that was made with CGI it was about Max bringing home his GF to Goofys house for christmas and at first Goofy was embarrasing him and just being Goofy and then Max starts growing distant from him and then he learns that his Dad isn't that bad when he sees his GF having fun with him, it was a childhood favourite for me
Actually that's the one that was released in 2004, he accidentally put in a scene from Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas from 1999.
Speaking of Mac Tonight, and Max Headroom (and the California Raisins, for that matter), can we all just take a moment to acknowledge that 1980s advertising was honestly the peak of advertising?
Back then you could run 30 minute advertisements directly straight to kids. I think part of why the ads were so much better was that there wasn't as much ad time in programming allowed, so rather than paying to have the same commercial run a million times, a bit of extra money to make something a bit better made more sense.
Seeing both Mac Tonight *and* Max Goof in the thumbnail sold me lol
Fun Fact: Mac Tonight was physically performed by Doug Jones, the tall, lanky guy used in a bunch of Guillermo del Toro movies. He was Abe Sapien physically in both of the original Hellboy movies and played Abe entirely in the second (as well as the Angel of Death) as well as voicing him in the animated movies and the video game. He also played the Pale Man and the Faun in Pan's Labyrinth, the ghosts in Crimson Peak and the amphibian man in Shape of Water. He was physically the Silver Surfer in the second Fantastic Four. He was also Saru in Star Trek Discovery, was in both of the Hocus Pocus movies. Much much more. But in fact, Mac Tonight was his first.
I’m so happy that you covered Mac tonight in this video, I’ll be real the Internet in the early 2000’s did him dirty. If anyone’s want to find good representation (or that is not “Moon man” related) definitely check out the Mcbusters or the disturbance.
McBusters is amazing.
But the racist internet stuff didn't start until 2007...
@@dragontales1999 Around those times
Fun Fact: In Married with Children, There used to be a character named Seven who was added in Season 7 and was ment to be the 3rd kid in the Bundy family. But quickly vanished after only 12 episode without any form of information on what happened to him. Only having a cameo in a milk carton. He's basically the kid version of Chuck Cunningham.
I only found out Mac Tonight's existence through a fnaf fan game that featured him as a kid.
Finding out his history and what they did to him is just sad.
Is almost similar to the Orange Bird (if you know what I mean).
JUSTICE FOR MAC TONIGHT
That’s right dude!
14:29 Fun Fact: one of the head writers for the show attempted to bring BoCo, alongside another character, Hank, back into CGI, but the ideas were shot down by Mattel, who claimed there were more than enough male characters in the show already.
I’m just impressed someone actually remembered Nester and Mac Tonight. That was MY childhood.
I have a suggestion for another lost character: Voltaire the Vulture from 'Who Framed Rodger Rabbit?'
Essentially Judge Doom was originally going to have a pet vulture named Voltaire, who'd carry out Doom's dirty work (i.e. dropping bricks on people). Eventually he was replaced by the Toon Patrol as they were given more prominent screen time. In fact, we only know about Voltaire's existence from two sources: the NES game and a series of bendy action figures of which he was packaged alongside Doom. The fact that he still appeared in some merchandise shows that he was scrapped well into the film's production. And the production of merchandise has to be designed and approved well ahead of time to coincide with the release of a movie; so a lot of scrapped characters, ideas and design choices tend to resurface that way. Another good example would be early Simpsons merch with Bart having a blue shirt instead of red or the Moana Lego sets, where you'd have a stoic Heihei figure instead of the dopey one in the final film (a figure which I happen to own, lol).
P.S. congrats on the 100K! ☺
Bonus lost characters: there were originally going to be seven weasels following judge doom, making them Judge Doom and the Seven Weasels, an obvious Snow White parallel. They were cut down to five weasels for complications animating that many characters on screen at once.
Imagine if Heihei was like his early Lego figure.
I was born in 2000 and first knew of Mac as he is and not a symbol of hate, I had no idea that was a thing and am confused how people would put those two together in the first place. It’s a shame the light in some people are so dim.
Mac Tonight is not lost. You just can’t see him since he is in the New Moon phase.
Wow, so sad to hear about Mac Tonight! I remember those commercials from my childhood & I had one of his Happy Meal toys. I used to make him do little concerts for my other toys!
Not knowing the context behind the Ducktales clip of Max is funnier than knowing the context
Also I hope Kaorin gets in one of your videos. I want this series to continue! :D
Wake up babe Zeepsterd uploaded
Also since I’m a fan of mac tonight im glad he got his covered on this vid
I was so excited when volume 100 of Nintendo Power brought back Nester for a special comic. I was hoping he'd be back for good, but it was just a one issue event. 25 years later and that still annoys me, LOL.
Mac tonight isn’t dead, he is still kicking as the notorious rapper moon man.
Oof! Seeing Max on this list really hurt my heart. I get it, he was never that strong a character on his own and was very much a product of his time. But, he's Goofy's SON. And he really helped round Goofy out into a surprisingly deep and heartfelt character. To the point where he's the only one now who feels like an actual CHARACTER and not just a corporate mascot. Goofy remains my favorite of the OG Disney gang largely due to this. I really, really, REALLY hope they bring Max back so we can see that side of him again.
I know how it feels when a Moon Character destroyed it's reputation.
Either I'm going crazy, or they gave Nester a sister for the Virtual Boy game that Zeepsterd never mentioned. They were an original character who only appeared in that game.
But once again, I could be going crazy.
There is! Her name was like, Hester or something
@@EchoGulch64yeah exactly Nester does have a sister and yeah that’s her name it’s crazy to think she only appear on a forgotten game for a forgotten game console
The style of the Howard and Nester comics reminds me simultaneously of Katsuhito Otomo and rick Geary. That's... pretty mind-boggling.
It’s kinda cool and emotional that Nester got a final comic on the last issues of Nintendo power and giving us a final goodbye I sorta wished he came back for Nintendo TH-cam game highlights on their directs or his son that’ll be cool imo
I love how they brought him back for the last issue!
Maxwell is just the best. I want him and his Dad back too.
a "Maxwell's Adventures" comic would be cool
@@angelac.e.589exactly a new face for a new generation of gamers especially now with the Nintendo dominance in gaming thx to the switch
Something about lost pieces of media is... unnerving. I dunno why but it's probably because most of the time they don't tell anyone or give a reason, they just disappear. (congrats on 100,000!)
Thank you!
Horace Horsecollar has more tragic story. He was Mickey's best friend and pal , until Goofy and Donald appeared in 1930s. He became a forgotten character , that had a potential. In 90s he had a chance to get his own cartoon series , but the "Maximum Horsepower" was cancelled. Now he appear only as cameo , if he is appearing in modern cartoons of Mickey Mouse.
#SupportHoraceHorsecollar
He’s back!!!!! Congrats on hitting 100k
Thank you!
Aw. That Super Metroid poster Nester has in that last comic they made is hanging up on my wall beside me. :')
I actually remember Mac night when from I was a kid (I’m 17 btw). There was a Mac knight animatronic in the big MC Donald’s I went to as a kid, that had two stories and a arcade on the second story
I have a lost character that is staying lost, Bumpkin Kong/Farmer Kong, he appeared as a playable character for a demo of a Donkey Kong Racing Game, and never appeared again, and the devs of that demo said “He’s dead now anyways” LIKE DAMN! They killed him off before he could make it to a full game
even better, he's actually called redneck kong.
Mac Tonight the late night campaign for McDonalds of the 90s I wasn't a 90s kid despite being a 90s baby since I was born in 99 but I heard that people loved that Moon Man I remember going to the Biggest McDonald's as a kid and that's when I first saw Mac Tonight Animitronic.
Max did appear in mickeys twice upon a Christmas as an adult with his girlfriend meeting goofy for the 1st time for Christmas. It’s funny because the girl has the same voice actress as Roxanne but it’s not her.
That's the one from 2004, he accidentally put in a clip from Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas from 1999.
I love Mac Tonight. I'm too young to have ever seen the mascot used. But he's so cool even without the nostalgia factor.
For me, I really know him in the vaporwave (and it's subgenres) scene. He's sort of a mascot there, fairly famous and loved.
He may have died, been resurrected into a monster for "memes" but to the vaporwave community, he lives on in dreamy nostalgic vibes
The first time i saw him, he was one character in a doom mod( yeah moonman), now in 2022 yt algoritm send me enjoy yourself from saint pepsi, and in the videos was mac Tonight. I can not lie he is a good mascot, maybe eve the best mcdonalds ever created.
I felt so sorry about these characters that never returned. I'm also sorry that both the character and the voice actor died. such as Archer's mother from Archer, Edna from The Simpsons, and even Adam West who plays as himself as the mayor from family guy. why are there so many characters that we love end up disappearing.
That happens a lot. For longer running characters sometimes the voice actor will have to switch multiple times. There's been a fair number of Fred Flintstones over the years, same goes for Mickey Mouse.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade Yeah except for villains. Some villains die for killing an innocent person. and some villains don't.
You know one character that people haven't requested is Little Miss Calamity from the Mr. Men Show who was in season 1 and then removed because the writers hated her
Virgin Moonman: Thinks that he is "cool", made by basement neckbeards, racist and is just a poor excuse of an edgy meme
Chad Mac Tonight: Cool, was really successful, associated with a popular brand and was based off of something popular from the 80's
You’re absolutely right dude.
this video sent me down a rabbit hole of nintendo power comics and mainly H&N, to show my gratitude i will subscribe to your channel and continue to stream your videos.
Just thought I'd mention that Max Goof does appear in Disney Sorcerer's Arena, which is fairly recent. While certainly underutilized these last couple decades, I think calling him a lost character is a bit of a stretch.
After Mac Tonight was let go as a McDonalds mascot, he angrily looked for someone to blame for his termination. After meeting certain groups of disgruntled individuals, he came to the conclusion that certain groups of people in society were to blame. And thus Moon Man was born…
Here are some interesting lost characters
-The Porygon line from Pokémon, pretty much never appeared in anything since the incident in Japan.
-Eric Cartman's original dad and sister, originally shown only in the south park pilot but were cut completely
-if you want another Obscure mcdonalds character you could talk about Speedy, the original mascot before Ronald.
naww he took this comment and *RAN* w it
One lost and very interesting character is SpeeDee from McDonalds. he was one of the very first McDonalds mascots and he is very rarely seen today. I love your videos and I hope you choose my suggestion.
It's so bizarre how underutilized Max Goof is when he's a legit Disney fan favorite. Like us KH stans are still hoping he appears in the games some day.
Nester’s Funky Bowling will never leave my god damn brain
real
How about a suggestion of 3 lost characters that nobody didn't mention from past videos. The Bug Trio from Phineas and Ferb. They were originally gonna be part of the show from the original Pitch Pilot, but Dan and Swampy, the creators of P&F, thought having 3 plots in a Phineas and Ferb episode would be too complex for kids to understand, which ironically they try that idea with the C plots focus on Candance Flynn most of the time. The Bug Trio only appeared in Doof 101 and the O.W.C.A Flies. The reason why they appeared in one episode and the stand-alone special was because Dan and Swampy tried to find something to fill the B plot rather than shoehorn Phineas and Ferb in those two. The Bug Trio were almost lost characters, but they were reused just because Dan and Swampy didn't know what to do to include P&F for Doof 101 and The O.W.C.A Flies.
Thank you for the recommendations!
@@zeepsterd Wow! I never thought you liked the idea and heart the comment! Thanks! And no problem! I really like your content!
If there's a lost character I'd suggest, it'd be Amber from Pokémon. She basically played a role in Mewtwo's backstory, and oh boy do I have alot to geek out about...
Back when the anime was still new, and around the time of the Electric Soldier Porygon incident that left the series in a hiatus with even the first movie being affected, they decided to expand on Mewtwo's character arc rather than just making them a simple antagonist. They released a CD Drama called The Birth of Mewtwo, which introduces a deeper story for the scientist that created the genetic Pokémon, Professor Fuji, who not only worked with Team Rocket to clone Mew as an attempted super soldier, but also wanted to clone his deceased daughter to bring her back, that daughter being Amber. His wife leaves him, believing he's gone unhinged, Amber develops a telepathic bond with Mewtwo, acting like a big sister to them as she introduces the world around them, but eventually passes away, leaving Mewtwo traumatized before being injected with an amnesiac serum. The rest of the Drama details Mewtwo's backstory as we know it now, with the genetic Pokémon being born, killing Fuji in blind emotions, working with Team Rocket, only to leave and pursue the events of the first movie. Some of it was even included in an enhanced version of the film, but that whole segment was cut in the American release, being put in as a bonus feature in Mewtwo Returns instead.
The thing is, despite how important Amber was to Mewtwo's character arc, and how pretty depressing her overall story was with her grieving father trying to bring her back, only to be killed by his own creation, not only does the rest of Mewtwo's arc have NOTHING to do with her, but nowadays I think she's actually been flat out retconned from the anime's canon. For starters there's the fact that after she's introduced, she disappears entirely to the point where she initially wasn't in the movie, only being added in a later version that the American version cut out. She makes no appearance or even mention in Mewtwo Returns, nor is her presence even anywhere in the most recent episode Mewtwo appeared in, as that episode wasn't even about them. Then they remade the movie as Mewtwo Strikes Back Evolution, with no trace of Amber anywhere other than there's an extra tube near Mewtwo's that implies her existence. Yes, Mewtwo forgot who Amber was, but you mean to tell me they made this tragic character who made one of the most complex characters in the entire franchise who they are just doesn't exist anymore?
Honestly, this is just a problem with the anime in general, how poorly they use their characters. I actually left out the fact that the Team Rocket organization get expanded upon too, as Giovanni's mother was established to be the previous leader of the organization back when he was a kid, and Jessie's mother was revealed to have went on an expedition to search for Mew, only to be trapped in a snowstorm, forever alone, implied to still be there to this day of the series' canon, a far cry to how the main series RARELY ever even does anything with the organization, pinning the focus on the trio to the point where Ash never even officially meets Giovanni until Unova and proceeded to never interact with him again. They really could've taken the opportunity to continue Mewtwo's story in Journeys, considering they could've fit pretty well with Goh's arc revolving around him wanting to catch Mew, but they only brought the genetic Pokémon in for fanservice and most likely to promote the remake.
Man this was a dedication of my time, I need to go out and do something productive with my day, but this was basically my suggestion. Amber from Pokemon to me represents the main flaw of the anime, story wise. It introduces characters with potential and then disposes of them by the next generation until they're worthy of nostalgic fanservice.
About Goofy Movie. Max is not so much rejecting family it's just him and his dad have trouble understanding each other and it causes a bit of trouble sometimes.
If you make another one of these then you should cover Plastic Man's sidekick Woozy Winks. He first appeared in Police Comics #13 back in October 1942 and hasn't made an appearance in anything since the final episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold back in 2011 (although he was mentioned on the cover of Terrifics #15 back in June 2019).
I have asked for this on 3 videos because there is a character perfect for this! Cartmans dad from the unaired pilot of the show.
In South Park one of the main leads Eric Cartman notably lacks a father and lives with a single drug addicted sex addicted mother. His mother has a noteable lack of any discipline leading Cartman to walk all over her and getting away with shit like pretending to mentally handicapped to join the special Olympics or infecting his friends with deadly diseases. His lack of a father is a _major_ plot point, the 2 parter "Cartmans Mom Is A Dirty Slut/Cartmans Mom Is Still A Dirty Slut" was all about Cartmans fathers and hertiage and origins, his mother was announced to be a hermaphrodite. However it was revealed later on Cartmans father was a character who had appeared on the show, Jack Tenorman who had killed and feed to his half-brother. Originally in the pilot of South Park, Cartmans had a father who made an appearance but was cut as the pilot was too long.
I recommend geno and mallow from Mario rpg since they haven’t been used since and they were very unique
Btw love the videos and congrats on 100k
Geno had a cameo in superstar saga and smash bros mii outfit
True but what I mean is they never had a main role in a game ever since SMrpg
Congrats on 100k subs my guy!
Wanna know something insane? Burger King once tried to cash in on McDonald's land with their own cast of characters (Found out about it through Defunctland).
I have honestly got to say that man is this legit a pretty well made video and also little fun fact about mac tonight in case you didn't know,
Was that around a few years ago some people decided to make some fnaf fangames including sequels based on the character mac,
along with others being included in the games like hamburglar, grimace, and ect.
Is it just me or do some of these character don't really seem "lost"?
@@Lizombiez I said fun fact dude and all I wanted to mention was that they were in a few fnaf fangames
@@alexmitchell1182 no I mean in the video, sorry.
@@Lizombiez Its alright my dude.
I'm literally crying, HE'S HIT 100K SUBS OMFG LESS GO!
WE DID IT!
@@zeepsterd LASS GO
I grew up watching and loving the TTTE series (and it literally inspired my bf to work with trains). BoCo was such a great character who was kinda a more fatherly figure(?). Wish he could’ve come back but with (from what I’ve glanced at while taking care of my niece) the 2D revival, idk if he is ngl.
Okay Donald's voice at 9:10 what was that monstrosity!!! I hope whoever has that idea lives the rest of their days alone
I love a Goofy Movie and an Extremally Goofy Movie. They are top 10 favorite Disney movies in my opinion, and they are so good!
I can't believe I got emotional over nester 😭🖤 I definitely wanna see him make a comeback now
I mean Nester got a good send off with the final issue of Nintendo Power
God I wish Mac made a comeback
Food mascots are treasure trove of lost characters like kool-aid has enemies called Thirsty's and his own justice league with different colored kool-aid men
Idk why I find it hilarious that an innocent mascot like Mac Tonight would just be used to rap racism lmaooo 😂😂😂
Actually Max also appear as a playable character in a Disney mobile game called “Disney Sorcerer’s Arena”.
You should talk about Phoebe Munster. She was originally the mom of the Munster family in the pilot, but in the rest of the series and the remake of the pilot she was replaced by Lily. This was because she looked too much like Morticia Addams.
Me:mom zeepsterd just uploaded
The Kanye songs during Mac Tonight's segment..... oh my god
There is one flaw with the Max thing. I have seen a few things where Max still speaks including the Disney Fandaze event in Paris where he had a show that was in English.
When I Saw This Video I Thought (he hasn't talked about BoCo from Thomas And Friends) And At 0:03 I Was Gobsmacked To See The Diseasel Footage
10:48 Even If You've Outgrown Thomas The Tank Engine It Still Is A Timeless Classic (Seasons 1-7 And Seasons 17-21), And You Did Very Good Research On The Original Railway Series Books, Even As A Thomas Fan Myself I Try To Keep BoCo How He Once Was As A Character. Seriously Dude You Earned A Subscriber, I Like This Lost Character Series!
A really good lost character is Scrappy Doo, Scooby Doo's nephew. It seems just no one liked him and at some point they just got rid of him from the show. He'd appear as the villian for the live action Scooby Doo movie, and I think they references him in SD and the 13th ghost movie by name only.
Also maybe my previously requested character Venus De Milo from TMNT the Next Mutation, only bringing her up again here because a lost characters video fits better.
scooby doo mystery incorporated. Scrappy was one of the villain statues some odd reason. there was no info of why he's even in the villain hall in the 1st place. and was only shown for like 9 seconds. fred just said "we should never speak of it again." it was random but still. "why?"
@@rickydiscord7671 I remember that! I think after the first live action film the creators of the franchise had officially made him a canon villain and slowly had him written out of any more shows until that statue of him in Mystery Incorporated appeared. The stuff Scrappy pulled in the film may have been what Fred was referring to when he told Daphne to never speak of it again.
@@sissysovereign1294 but you got to remember. at the start of the show, nothing was normal. that's why there was a "why" this Scrappy is a villain again.
You've gotten this far without explaining the legend: Felix the cat
Yes he's very popular and arguably the most famous among pop culture, but all of the fame did not really save him from being lost. so it will be interesting if you talk about him.
Thomas the Tank engine has an insane fan base, like not crazy insane, but like insanely hyperfixated to the point of it being impressive
Max goof was shown in 2004's Mickey's Twice Upon A Christmas (but we don't really talk about that "movie") and it shows Max as an adult about to get married.
As someone born WAY past the prime of Nintendo power, I have this weird fondness towards nester, idk I just think he's neat and such a time capsule of marketing
Edit: you forgot to mention that nester technically appeared in pilotwings 64 under the indenity of lark (this was briefly mentioned in the 100th issue of Nintendo power), it's likely not at all Canon to fuckin pilotwings 64 lore but it's still interesting nonetheless
Speaking of pilotwings, I think the cast of 64 could be a good topic for another one of these videos, considering how even smash doesn't reference them or their game at all, hell, it took them nearly 30 fucking years to finally re-release pilotwings 64 to the nso thing
And now we know who killed Mac tonight.
You should watch EmpLemon's video on Mac Tonight. Apparently the original character of Mack the Knife was from The Beggars Opera where he was a genuine underclass heel.
Another "lost" character would probably be Felix The Cat, he hasn't really appeared in much and hasn't had a tv series since the late 90's I'm pretty sure. He doesn't get the recognition he deserves, he should be just as iconic as Mickey Mouse if you ask me, he truly is one of the pioneers of cartoons.
Mac Tonight isn't lost... he's just on bitchute now
Oy moonman aint lost he Just changed careers
My name was published in Nintendo Power magazine for beating Power Blade when I was like 12 years old, and my friend was in one for his high score in Tetris
Fantastic music choices during the Mac segment, Ghost Town and Runaway? Incredible
MoonMan isn´t gone, he is right here with us
Right? Lol it's all good.
Everytime i hear hypnotize
Bro even from someone who likes those edgy memes I want Mac to comeback
He’s so damn cool
you should really do a video on hoax lost characters. you tackled graggle and sparky before but i think theres still plenty of them left. my personal favorite has to be haruno higashikata
Sheep in the big city is like the most forgotten character and lost character of all time on cartoon network.