Talking Storage with Allyn Malventano
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I've known Allyn since his military days he's was cool then nice to see he's still the same dude
Hi from Australia! Please tell Ryan to stop making fun of us 😠
:P
So saw a headline in enterprise they are working on ssd not being treated like hdds and being treated like how ssds are supposed to be used. Yes I read the article but it sounds like we have used ssds with the mentality of hdd and that has affected are ability to make better use of ssd. Si when will ssd consumer switch from being treated like hdd and be treated like actual ssds?
I still remember making a bunch of coasters because of the buffer. 🤬
"Old People Computer Theater" - thats a saturday night in our house :P
Man I remember telling Allyn like 5 years ago to move over to ZFS on PCPer forums and podcasts. He just wouldn't listen! I'm glad Wendel's Evangelical methods have worked on Allyn.
I feel like most of my 20s where spent listening to Allyn or Ryan on PCPer podcasts. I miss it..
The big thing that pushed me over the edge was booting from ZFS root. If I was going to do it, I wanted to go 'all in' and not have to rely on some other method for a redundant boot volume.
@@malventano Are you talking about using a flash drive for installing the OS and booting from it?
@@Hostilenemy I don't like booting servers from flash drives. Not reliable enough :)
@@malventano you and your fixation for good fittings lol. Look in the comments if you dont remember who i am. Fly safe m8.
I do admit, I missed hearing Allyn talk about storage from his PCPer days.
Oh boy I miss Allyn so much! Hands down the best storage reviews and analysis on the Internet
Hey guys! 45 Drives storage architect here... Just wanted to say this was just fantastic to listen to! So great to hear people talk about my passions ;) We love ZFS at 45 Drives. I don't personally work with it as much these days as my main responsibilities revolve around Ceph and our clustering offerings, but ZFS is still hands down my favorite file system!
I've missed Allyn.. ❤ Was nice to see him and talking about one of my favorite subjects.
Allyn Malventano to me is the best storage reviewer. I love storage a lot too, sometimes I watched the PC perspective podcast because I knew there was a new ssd that he will review.
Loved listening to Allyn on the pcper podcast... I miss his and Ryan takes on new hardware.
I still really miss Allyn Malventano's voice in the storage analysis media - was my go-to reviewer for many years when I wanted to know how good things actually were.
Really nice to see he hasn't changed a bit even though he's inside the business now :)
Really enjoyed this. Bring Allyn back again sometime please.
Been awhile since we've seen Allyn. Great to see you again, brother!
Allyn Malventano was the reason i watched PCper
Allyn leaving was a bigger loss to PCPer than Ryan leaving IMHO
It's so nice to see Allyn again. 🍻 Bud we miss you in the tech community.
I don't understand a lot but, I am happy with this conversation
It's been a very long time since I heard Allyn in a pod cast of any sort, was one of many reasons I always tuned into PC Per pod cast when Allyn was part of PC Per.
Yeah Allyn!! ❤️
Can't even begin to tell you all how much I've missed that Maltevino bloke. Love me some storage talk. Seriously. This show is like.... My two gurus of knowing everything all in one video.. I could watch you two chat at least once or twice a week... Always learn something when Allyn or Wendell talk shop. Also usually retrospectively hoof myself in the ass for all the things i did wrong and didn't know in the 1990s. Lol.
Ah Darth Mal-ventano, we meet again
MORE OF THIS PLZZZZ!!!
I doubt there slim.....probably more like micro in length and girthy in width. Only someone with an incredibly small penis could rule with an iron fist,such as he does. You know what they say,the bigger the nuke, smaller the penis!
Allyn "The Human Inode" Malventano
I love that LGR mention. The rest of the talk is really insightful, too. Thank you for having fun.
WTB Wendell+Allan Jude + Allyn Malventano, storage podcast
Oh, how I have missed Allyn talk over my head. He is one very smart man that can still talk to us mortals.
This was FANTASTIC. More of this, please. So much nostalgia.
if you told me 10 years ago there might be a T-pain and Wendel crossover I would have lost it
This was a fantastic listen, naturally flowing and the perfect example of just chatting
This is such a nerdy and very technical talk and I love every single bit of it!
I *love* these kind of Videos. Informative, but also informal. Functional but fun.
I remember looking for sales at Staples for Maxtor hard drives and I was so pumped when I bought the 8GB hard drive for $99! It even had the brackets included to mount in the 5.25 drive bay. What a time!
Allyn! I've missed him (so much more than Ryan).
Cool stuff. Always good to hear the experts talk about stuff on a deeper level.
There are so many good ZFS features, but you know what really sold me? Transitioning to TrueNAS Core on a brand new box and simply running "zpool import". No hassle, no hardware RAID controller to deal with. Just pop in the disks and run one command. The reliability is 100% worth the overhead.
Man I miss Allyn and Ryan content on PCPer... I also enjoy Jeremy and Josh and the newer folks on the podcast, but it's just not the same without these two guys.
And it's so entertaining watching two guys so versed in storage just talking about cool stuff for an hour, really drives you to learn about stuff. Some things like the CDRW copy-format-rewrite I didn't even really remember it properly because I was young and just starting to figure computers out myself when that started to become a thing.
Great content guys.
Fantastic commentary on SSDs, hearing about the hidden pitfalls and black boxes helps assuage my irrational fears of them because I know almost nothing about what's happening on the inside.
At the same time I'm pissed that we don't have a good industry standard way to peek into the workloads and queued jobs that sit inside an SSD.
This podcast was a gem
This was Level2Techs! +1
Good to see and hear Allyn, Hope he does more of this in future.
the level of conversation u two have is at another level, but u take it so causal.
Buffer underrun protection when burning CDs, those were the days :)
Please have him back regularly. This is high quality content!!!
Fantastic episode - thanks for that! I too remember a few of your anecdotes from my own experience, really made my day =)
You so need more episodes like this. take someone of such background and discuss.
MORE please
That was a real pipe-and-slippers reminisce podcast ♥️
30 seconds in and this should be good.
Edit, very good. PIO mode was about the resolution of half of the support calls when I worked for the manufacturer of dvd-rw drives.
Not a name I've seen in awhile! best storage reviewer I've ever read, really miss his storage articles.
This is going to be a fascinating video, thanks in advance. Merely playing with freenas at the moment using 2 old machines for the last few months, getting closer to a functioning and appropriately configured server 👍
It sure was; Worth the wait :-)
@@ishmaelmusgrave Ah ha 😉👍
As a fellow storage nerd and ZFS advocate, this was awesome.
sure was fun to reminisce the old 486 days with my old 340MB drive and a dualspeed cdrom
more Allyn! more storage!
So awesome to see Allyn, great collab!
Hopefully not just a one time thing... ;)
Great show! Talk, video, whatever you want to call it. We want moar!
This was great guys! Thanks
Great video hope to hear more indepth discussion of electron shotguns and similar
Old PCper podcasts were so great!
Man this was such a good episode. More technical stuff please!
Welcom back Allyn. We missed you :)
Always liked listening to Allyn, this is pretty sweet.
Thank you.
I think Old People Computer Theater TH-cam might be my favorite TH-cam.
"Old man computer theatre" was the best part. I would listen to that podcast.
Allyn!!!!
oh shit how did i miss this! i learned so much about storage from him! COOL!
Too good. I appreciated this riff on how fickle tech is.
I love that it's two nerds talking about benchmarking and how you can make some systems do some very smart things OR some be very, very, very, very dumb, and how that makes a world of difference but requires people who are designing the system to KNOW what they're doing, and acknowledge the input of random people doing random stuff they didn't account for.
Wendell: "multiple bits per atom. How is that even possible?!"
The future: "sub atomic particules"
Good discussion, and it touches on some important points that are also sort of pet peeves of mine. Benchmarking should do test to uncover and illustrate the speeds of the SLC cache, as well as how long it lasts, how it behaves when it runs out, and what the sustained write speed is. Maybe most consumers will never or rarely run into the scenario of running out of SLC cache for writing, but for those that have those kind of workloads, understanding the impact it has on the SSD is critical to buying the right SSD for your usecases. If you only ever do light benchmarking on an empty drive, you wouldn't give power users the necessary info they need to make an informed purchase decision. But it's also good to point out in the reviews that if all you're doing is web browsing, light office work, and streaming, then you'll never in practice run out of the cache and have the best case scenario performance (as long as you leave 20-25% free on the drive).
Personally i've been formatting most of SSD at 90% of capacity for myself and the people i help with computers to avoid some of the performance pitfalls if it's not an MLC SSD. I guess we're at the point now where the "if it's not" can be changed to TLC with DRAM.
Although I’m younger, I’ve still used computers with 5GB of storage. And still have two 16MB SD cards and a 128MB flash drive. I was impressed with how much music fit on my first MP3 player that was 512 MB (quite much for the time).
Very cool! I really like Allyn Malventano.:)
Love these types of videos! Wendell knows so many cool and interesting people
I was taken back a few times in more than one way! Thanks...
I thoroughly enjoyed this, cause I follow it on the same level as you guys talk, but I think a fair bit is gonna go right over other peoples heads without more explanation. You could probably make a 2nd whole video explaining what you just casually talked about.
I miss Allyn on pcper! I hope you get him back as a guest again. :D
Two engineers and a fern.
this is amazing two of my favourite tech people :)
13:44 We know why we're here.
48:15 No no, more nostaga please!
Love it when you get tech guys on and just start hanging out, improv style. That's what got my instant click.
omg just started watching the 4tb rocket review. but stopped instantly after i noticed i missed a allyn moltobeno video. he and josh were the 2 reasons i watched pcper
I'm sure I'm not alone in missing Allyn's 38 minute tangents on flash storage. Good to see him around, been a while. Edit: Would have loved to ask them about their thoughts on RTX I/O.
From ZFS Wikipedia entry: ZFS is unusual because, unlike most other storage systems, it unifies both of these roles and . Therefore, it has complete knowledge of both the physical disks and volumes (including their condition and status, their logical arrangement into volumes, and also of all the files stored on them).
More old people computer theater PLEASE!!!!
Ahh an hour of childhood memories
We miss your insight in storage Allyn. The enthusiasts lost a great recourse.
Oh no, we tuned into the _right_ podcast...
Not gonna lie, I loved pcper with Alan and Ryan, but for a hot second I thought Wendell was sitting with Steve Jobs in the thumbnail
There are many reasons to like ZFS, but two of mine are how useful it is as a storage layer for LXD, and that there are ZFS receiver services as an off-site backup solution such as rsync.net.
lovin the nerd out fellas. keep those brains flexin and silicon hummin
"Schroedinger's NAND ... black magic ... wear leveling ... electron shotgun ... quantum tunneling ..."
"But...but I just want my games to load fast?!"
"Yeah... sorry man. Wrong podcast. That's not how it works"
omg lmao
Yo this is dope more talk w people w deep expertise (not that the level1 folks don’t )
@30:00 Steam likely pre-allocates the writes instead of sparse allocation during the download, not to benefit the download itself, but to benefit performance when playing the game. So it knows for sure the large game assets are written sequentially adjacent to each other and not all randomly as the download comes in (plus mixed with other writes going on in your PC from other software during that possibly long and unknown download time). Then when you play, the game can load larger chunks for better loading times - (assuming the game doesnt just default to 4k random anyway like you said is common in the beginning)
That's a decent justification / theory, but I'd bet there is a negligible difference in load times vs. sparse allocation + download write pattern. Those download writes are going to lead to some wear leveling regardless of how you initially allocated the files (on an SSD), so pre-allocating shouldn't gain you anything besides unnecessarily burning through more write cycles of the NAND.
Can "Old People Computer Theatre" be a regular show?
OMG burning a CD and multitasking :) I totally pushed the limits and failed :(
It would be nice to see you two do this on some sort or regular basis.
Why has it taken this long for this to happen.
Allyn! Miss you brother.
Nand = “Rabbit | Hat” - Yep, top tier IT gags... 😅👍
HOLY CRAP TO GREAT KENTUCKY MINDS!!
2 minutes in and I was wondering where Alyssa Milano was. Need to read alerts properly.
Shes on twitter yelling at Ted cruz
She contracted human malware and can't get out of bed apparently.
Talking storage with Alyssa Milano? 🤣
@@lordswaggity1213 Maybe she has some interesting opinions!!
Thanks for making me want to build a FreeNAS box now. *pouts*
Ok, this is epic
Take a shot every time he says "right"
Also when fast CD Burners hit 4x I remember them being called "Jet Burners" and the CD-Rs qualified for 4x were called "Jet Fuel" or something like that. They successfully burned like... 50% of the time.