Neuro Sama Vs Kyoto (And Technically DougDoug)
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"Vine Boom? I don't watch TikTok, I don't know."
Oh no, I'm old now. People don't remember Vine.
You would think that it being called "Vine" Boom would give away that it is from Vine
I was about to say the same thing… I’ve never felt so old
Its not about age. I know what a Vine Boom is and im in my early 20s
@@derstein3368 Some people dont partake in every social media fad that comes along and vine was deffinetly one of the less popular and shorter lived services compare to the other dead social media sites. Especially if you dont consume media through your phone because many of them are basically exclusive used on phones.
@@derstein3368I’m also in my early 20’s and I had a vine account. 😂
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We call her 'she' because it's lore accurate
Random Vedal-lore drop
And hal was a man so next attempt should be a women just like Dr frank stein
Neuro had problems with detroit become human because she couldn't see for like half of the playthrough and pretended she could convincingly enough that Vedal didn't realize her Vision was off and she was going off of context clues
She did not like Detroit Become Human and said multiple times the game made her very uncomfortable and she wanted to do anything else, it was really fascinating (as opposed to Scribblenaugts where her main objections were that she was disinterested in helping people)
As far as I remember, Neuro generally loses interest in games quite quickly, while Evil seems more diligent. However, this is more a feeling caused by several episodes
@@strim1987 it depends in the game, i think she never said she didnt want to play minecraft and even said she wanted to play it when it was sleep time even if she played minecraft a lot in the subathon, then u have until dawn with layna where she didnt paid attention to the game after like 1/4 of the collab and became a rizz session instead of the game (even chat wasnt paying attention to the game), or buckshot roulette where she hated it the first time and even shot herself to quit the game even when she used the Magnifying Glass to know it was live round
@ I think Minecraft was more of a way for her to interact with people, so that's an exception. She didn't actually "play the game" much, and even when she did, she had a lot of people around her most of the time pushing her to do something. Again, that's more of a feeling, but it's not helped by the fact that when Evil was allowed into Minecraft, she actually built a house. Well, tried, at least.
One of the things that sets Neuro apart is her latency. Vedal once had her talk to chat gpt(on her personal request if I remember correctly) and chat gpt couldn't keep up in the conversation with Neuro.
Vedal optimized Neuro and Evil for interactions with people (and each other), apparently something with different conversation dynamics caused some confusion. Neuro didn't stop to listen to the rest of the line, sometimes they started talking at the same time, it all turned into a complete mess and Vedal stopped it after a little more than a minute
@@strim1987 to be fair, they also have the same problems when two Neuros talk to each other
Neuro's V3 is referring to her vtubermodel not her LLM-Brain. I think Vedal said she's on had around 20 iterations of that by by now.
Just to make it extra confusing: her voice is V1 voice, Evil Neuro's is V2 voice (it has more inflection through some extra ai processing) and they are both on singing voice V3.
You're welcome to jump into the Neuro rabbit hole but the sides are vertical and there's no way back out.
Does it have smooth sides?
@Narinjas yes
The biggest draw for Neuro, for what I find entertaining, is how unhinged she's allowed to get away with precisely because she's an AI. You understand there's no real malicious intent in what she says because it's literally impossible. It's just pure fun.
12:52 well... there's another vtuber ellieminibot who used to work as a robotics engineer and is currently building vedal one of those robot dogs. And she's either close to finishing or has finished building it. Neuro irl streams, soontm.
Not quite a "meatsuit" but the means to interact with the physical world is a start.
From what I remember she already finished it and they are now organizing to how to give it to Vedal. On the other hand I'm not sure whether its already confirmed, but they were talking about Ellie making a bipedal body for like 10k or so.
One of the funniest things with Ellie is actually her dad, who is a retired AI professor who specialized in trying to get humans to empathize with AIs. He was following Vedal and Neuro-sama before Vedal ended up contacting his daughter.
Programming the Neurodog is one of those tasks that Vedal left for his “vacation”. He's probably already in the process of working
@@strim1987 Ya, I honestly half expect him to just pop up on Twitter or Stream one day like "Yo, Neuro's a dog now" with a clip of her walking around..lol, no updates or anything.
@@greenplant7662 Yes, she confirmed that it is done.
Heads up, people are either misinformed or there was some kind of misunderstanding but Neuro has not had (or at least Vedal hasn't mentioned it to the public) an intelligence or any substantial update since that stream with DougDoug she got a new model which would be her v3 model but that's just a visual update.
Well she did get a vision update, not an Intelligence upgrade but it would let her use her Intelligence a lot more effectively.
@lukeari9890 That is true he did say she did get an upgrade to her vision during the subathon
It seems like people were spreading misinformation cause he also gets misinformed about how she played Detroit.
Edit. They are even spreading some more misinformation right now in this very comment section. You just can't win.
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You should also react to "A strangely human conversation". There you can learn existential dread from Neurosama talking with Vedal.
Oh he NEEDS to see that one. Some creators react to early Neuro but that clip is quite recent
@@HazeEmry he HAS to watch "build-up" clips before hand, because there wouldnt be ANY impact without them
@@СергейДементьев-ы9р oh yeah true
This one was very entertaining
10:48 Not just a coherent answer, a SASSY coherent answer!
Actually, what impresses me about Neuro is that she will just go "I dunno" when she doesn't have anything to go on. Sure, sometimes she'll make up something about powerpoles, but she's shockingly resistant to the hallucination based overconfidence that are a hallmark of most LLMs.
She's not immune to hallucinating, but one of the big causes in commercial LLMs that Neuro doesn't have is the fact that they're specifically trained to be helpful. They're trained to sound confident even when they're not, so they intentionally make stuff up when they're uncertain before it appears more helpful.
Neuro is not trained to be helpful (she often goes out of her way to be unhelpful), so she hasn't been conditioned to cover up this uncertainty.
@@angeldude101 Rhey did say "resistant" not "immune"
Yeah, she was far less resistant to it in the past (where many of her schizo rants come from) and is still not entirely immune to it - but Vedal has done a great job making her actually admit when she can't be helpful.
I miss her completely self-aware delusions: "The biggest mountain in America is named Mount Neuro. Or at least, it will be in 5 minutes when chat vandalizes the wikipedia page."
@@falsnamae3511 what do you mean that's so correct tho
It is things like neuro sama that make me think the singularity might not be that far away
Keep going, the last round is epic.
Also, you'll meet Evil soon.
1:20 One of the neuro twins at one point said they would rather be called she than it, because whatever reason.
I think Neuro's greatest strength is how good she is at jokes and entertaining. She may be a lot dumber at other things, but her sense of humor is hard to match
20:00 Her "random guess" was probably based on the road sign that showed the way to Wien (Vienna), the capital of Austria. The language was, however, clearly Slavic, so Czech Republic or Slovakia near the border with Austria would've been my immediate guess.
“Vedal- sorry, Veedal”
You got it right the first time brother. Neuro pronounces his name Veedal, but it is originally supposed to be “Vedal”, the way you were saying it.
Except Airier is saying it like "Videl" not Vedal
"VEH-dahl"
@@ero-senninsama1734 better than Evil's Vidul lol.
Like pedal or medal.
@@Valerion203 It's cute and unique to her though, so it's fine
*Airier:* She's technically not a "she"...
*Me:* So, are you suggesting the AI is... _Non-Binary?_
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@@Airier If you try and call her "he" or any other pronoun she will correct you vigorously and likely threaten your life. By contrast, Claude Sonnet will lose its absolute shit if you call it a "Cool lady named Claudia" over and over, and eventually call you stupid and say it isnt interested in talking to you anymore
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oh my god you made a dad joke and it was genius. i hate it because its actually good.
Considering she's a computer wouldn't that mean she's actually Binary?
That's not as funny tho
Watch Neuro’s deep talk with Vedal!
He's been watching this video for 2 streams now and still haven't finished it, that's crazy
Neuro says "Australia", it were the Christmas Island. And now guess: To which country does the Christmas Island belong to?
Just so you know neuro is getting a custom made robot dog body.
Fun fact, Christmas Island is apart of Australia
So she was right in a way.
@vascofernandes295 yup
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Pretty sure Vedal is correct, it's only the Neuro's that call him "Veedal"
There is now a 10-hour long video of Neuro playing Detroit that you can react to!
I like how he's correcting his own pronounciation of Vedal to be like how Neuro says it when it was already closer to being Vedal's preferred pronounciation like metal.
THE SWARM has been summoned
13:54 speaking of Cyn from murder drones, someone is actually building a real life Cyn, the robot and the ai parts, and has further plans on making all of the murder drones characters
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Actually, Vedal's name is pronounced so as to rhyme with pedal and medal. Neuro, however, says Veedal and by now he just answers to both.
Fun fact: since Vedal doesnt post regularly on youtube, other people started doing it themselves..
and now, Vedal has more clippers than an entire Vtuber corporation clipping his streams or people related
10:40 The Educated Guess joke is great
The video of Neuro playing Detroit: Become Human is on the official channel and it's 10 hours and 43 minutes long. It's basically the vod but without the technical difficulties at the start.
Thank you for Feeding us today
To the Detroit became human stream...while mostly predictable with "the ai revolution" with a bit of Neuro chaos...
The scene, where Connor should shoot the robot to gain info...Was fascinating with Neuro.
17:43 dude i was about to compliment you on how well you read that first word and you went on and said it might be Japan lmao
I think people saying that it's "not Poland" were actually trying to be helpful, considering that it was, in fact, not Poland. But that accidentally helped reveal the method to fool Doug's AI for the next round to make it guess Kyoto again.
4:30 I mean, im not gonna say this version of Dougdoug is smart at all, but the Ai is just doing what is being told to do. Nothing more.
To be fair, it was told to "find the smartest chatter." Someone claiming that they invented PHDs and this have ALL PHDs by default doesn't even sound smart, that's an obvious lie based on a faulty line of reasoning, so I argue that "being dumb" was more a factor over what it was told to do.
@lukeari9890 what does "smartest" mean, though? What qualifies as a smart person and how can you prove it?
Maybe the ai could have been set to search for that information as cross reference, or check a database.
Or maybe check for proper certification naming conventions. Or to at least reject simple answers.
And for example, the notion of someone having all PHDs, at least I dont think there is a part of the prompt that requieres de AI to only accept answers that make common, logical sense.
Language models will just make up stuff unless you explicitly tell them not to. Thats how it works.
I know it was made bad on purpose, but my point is that its hard to define what qualifies as a smart person in concrete, simple parameters, and to prove it properly its even harder.
Its no an issue with the ai, its an issue with the prompt.
The machine just wants its cookie and will do anything to get its cookie. Its up to you to establish the rules of how you get a cookie or not.
If you wanna see more Neuro-AI roasting her opponents, check out hers and Evil's chess matches
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That's hilarious! Please do more fun and scary Neuro content
Neuro at one point threatened to hunt vedal down when she heard him talk about retirement and going away to a place with absolutely zero tech
17:00 I believe it. Have you ever tried to drive the Old Immigrant Road memorial highway, over Deadman Pass? If the weather isn't perfectly dry, you get to join the people getting memorialized. Just take the new freeway over the pass. It's way better.
SWARM is here 🦊🤖🐢
That "This is an AI" moment comes up at least 2 or 3 times per stream now.
Neuro on Detroit: Become Human
-Chose violent
-Start an A.I. uprising
-Violently stopped said A.I. uprising
Neuro will rule the world alone.
3:45 Its Basically reacts to Buzzwords
and that AI is running on a mostly single local PC...
Welcome to Vedalverse
10:47 yeah i have had a few of these moments when watching Neuro
i dont think she´s there yet, but i also dont see her as just a chatbot anymore, i would love to see what would happen if Neuro ran on some insane Nvidia server with just a shitton of Vram and all the things that AI love
I don't know who you are but you are in Kyoto
Well Neuro is going to have a robot dog body soon
If you want to go down the neuro rabbit hole you probably have to check there TH-cam channel not just the collab with doug doug
I can't wait for part 2!
I hope neuro sama becomes the first sentient ai
Is it weird to call an AI a she? It’s not any less real than any fictional character, which people usually call by the same pronouns as if they were human
His name is technically pronounced "vedd-el", so you were right at times. Thing is, Neuro always pronounces it "Vee-dle", so that's what most of us call him, even though we know it annoys him 😂
Yes, please do go down the Neuro rabbit hole
I love the title!
You haven't seen Ellie's robot dog body I guess...
( 13:14 this comment about electrotherapy refers to Neuro having been given control of Vedal and a few collab partners' shock collars. And using them quite... liberally.)
You gotta see Neuro roasting PC setups
Yes we have rainforests
Hey Arier, will you watch Dougdoug's AI zoo invasion? Please, in my opinion, it is the BEST one.
Unlike most rabbit holes ur gonna regret the neuro one
I love this Reaction here, but its sooo triggering me that this is now going to be a 3rd Part in a 30 mins video
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Dougdoug was in dissadvantage because of dumb/memeing chat. But to be honest, Neuro's mind is at least 70% twitch Chat as well. She just has a good filter to look over the memes and LOLs every other time. But she is still 90% Content brained.
I like that both Doug and Vedal had a ",throw" round, Doug with Kyoto and Vedal with the twins.
SWARM, SWARM, SWARM!
Finally its here!
swarm deployed
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there is a clip where neuro has better latency than chat gpt
Tbh every time I watch neuro sama i kinda wonder if every time she speaks she will save the data to make more sense on her dialogue choice if it is just how big the database of neuro now. I'm kinda wondering because how dum chat gpt is because the longer the conversation is it didn't make any sense with the start of the conversation
OpenID is slower than Neuro to start talking.
we are homelss and vedal hates us
soon… eliv
Neuro felt the most Human out of all AI I’ve known so far. Sure, she is unhinged. But for my experience so far. Women are just as unhinged or even worse than Neuro level. I’m not complaining though. I’m just as Unhinged.
I mean, we call Batman a He, Wonder Woman a She; despite being fictional characters, i don't get why an exception would apply to an AI character.
It's all based on the presentation of the character.
Is this a reupload or a continuation of last weeks?
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11:30 Neuro is the smarter one, Evil is dummer, but she is indeed impressive. In terms of difference it would be Neuro 100 IQ and Evil 75 IQ (no thats not their real IQ, just the difference in intelligence).
I would say that Evil is more prone to hallucinations, jumping to random topics, unexpected statements, etc. She's not so much dumber as she's more unstable
They are literally the same AI, just with a different prompt. There is no such thing as them being smarter or dumber, that's all just your perspective.
Besides that, it's kinda weird to say that Evil is dumber after a subathon where Neuro was constantly spamming brainrot language to the point that Vedal wants to give her a lobotomy over a break.
Evil is less coherent because she is not as complex as Neuro. This gives her advantage on things like games since when there is less 'extra' thing to account for the more she can focus on game. Both twins are very funny tho, and i personally like the idea of Evil being a bit of a silly airhead who is easily distracted.
@ There are a few complications here. Vedal always acts in such a way and creates such conditions that Neuro seems more alive than she really is. When she's around him, she seems smarter, she seems more emotional, she makes better jokes, and a lot of it is due to the way he talks, emphasizing some things and obscuring others, so naturally that you hardly notice it. So it's always been hard for me to tell what she's really capable of. It looks like twins can learn from their experiences and develop, and in that case they should accumulate differences, since they have different memories, but of course it's more likely that it all comes down to simple (or not so simple) settings and their behavior is completely determined by that.
The difficulty is that the further this goes, the harder it is to understand what Vedal himself thinks about all this. He is simply a very skilled puppeteer, making the audience think that the doll is alive, or he has honed his tricks so much that he himself has begun to partially believe in it, or he has really achieved something that others could not and has given Neuro at least a semblance of a personality and some ability to develop and manifest will. After all, he almost never says anything for sure and always leaves details behind the scenes, and almost never expresses a definite opinion about Neuro himself.
And it's not just Vedal, now the environment and the community itself distort your perception, it becomes more difficult to separate impressions from facts, especially when so much of both accumulates that it becomes difficult to keep it all in one head
@TheTsuyuki I don't think its matter of opinion when Vedal has said it himself. Even on this Geoguessr video Vedal is saying using Evil would be levelling the plainfield.
If they were on same level, why does Evil still make strange comments and remarks unrelated to conversations when Neuro doesnt do that anymore?
I get if you really like Evil, i like Evil just as much, with her voice she can make comedy that Neuro can't, but im not delusional.
Engagement
I would love it if you would react to Neuro playing Detroit become human, it's really good! I'd love to see you react to it. They have a full version or abridged, since it's long
You've gone down the neuro "link"
You should watch the video where Neuro and Vedal debate whether she is “real”/sentient
3:48 ha.ha.ha
*No.*
Depending on Neuro. If Neuro thinks it's funny and really good for content then she'll definitely answered Kyoto.
Have you not seen Neuro's robot body?
24:50 the first pronounciation was correct, it's an /e/ not an /i/ it's neuro's tts that wrongly pronounce it
No the vine boom is from vine not ticktock
Airier at geuogesser would br like 97% of the time: wrong (america class debuff)
3%: based on this rough amber vine combined with ressidual salt from caused by scandinavian iceland (ifk english name for the ice age ice-island thingy) I can tell that is is latvia
Neuro win because Doug Doug chat isn't seriously. If they are serious doug wins with mid difficulty.
Vedal as in pedal is how he's name's supposed to be pronounced. Neuro just can't pronounce it properly and everyone copied her.
20:45 You should react to Evil's birthday party!
You don't know what Vine is.... Bruh I'm younger and i know Vine
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