Regent's Park: The Station That Shouldn't Be There
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Calling a railway line stupid and useless was the least offensive thing an Englishman could say in the days of yore.
Any long rambling diversion that ends up leading to Charles Yerkes is a diversion worth taking. 😁
All yarns lead to Yerkes. Jago needs some Yerkes merch.
Charles Tyson Yerkes. The middle name is essential.
Yerkes. Hmm. Now where have I heard that name?
As per usual, Jago maligns Yerkes with an ad hominem attack and then goes on to tell all the wonderful things Yerkes did, such as building nice stations, fixing up poor stations, extending failed lines, driving the electrification of the underground, and helping to unify the lines. Seems rather ungrateful if you ask me. To be fair, he seems to malign all the business people who got the underground built in the first place. What would Jago do if there were no Yerkes?
It is funny how, in Hazzardland, Charles Tyson Yerkes started out as an archvillain and has ended up as an anti-hero - the former bad guy rescuing rail companies in distress. Sort of reminiscent of Arnold Schwarzenegger in the Terminator series. PS - sign me up for a Charles Tyson Yerkes t-shirt.
In the spirit of the season......
Charles Tyson Yerkes has bought the railway!
OH NO HE HASN'T!
OH YES HE HAS!
Very interesting indeed. As a very young architect, I worked on the refurbishment of the station and the replacement of the lifts in 1983. Against much opposition, we made exceptional effort to retain the original Edwardian detail, and largely succeeded.
was there a thought that "modernisation" should mean contemporary styling - I guess the Jubillee extension tiling was the current style cue. Where the Bakerloo (ironically?) met the Victoria the Victoria re-wrote the platform styles in its own image
Bravo!
04:07 "It transpired that Wright had been selling shares between his own companies to artificially inflate their prices." I'm so glad we no longer live in these lawless times! Our modern business men, particularly all the upstanding billionaires who have made their billions through hard work only, would not dream of doing such a thing!
you'll note that when he was found out, he took the only honourable way out.
People don' t seem to be so honourable these days, shame.
This is why I follow Jago. Lesser used stations and the backstory.
If we're talking least used stations i want a Geoff.
Jago Lesser? Wasn't he in Endeavour 🤔
@@LeafHuntress no I want Geoff for current and future......jago is infinitely better for the history, I say that as a fan of both.
He's a great youtuber is JH!
This reminds me of the story of Piața Romană station. Piața Romană or Roman Square station is on Line M2 of the Bucharest Metro. But like Regent's Park, it wasn't supposed to be built, but it was anyway. The Bucharest Metro was first opened for service in November 1979 under the approval of Nicolae Ceaușescu. The second metro line, Line M2, was in the works and plans that were drawn up for the line were shown to Nicolae’s wife Elena Ceaușescu in 1985. When she saw Piața Romană planned as a location for a station, she complained that the working class and students were starting to "gain weight" and "needed to walk more", so the Communist Party ordered it not to be built.
To put things into perspective about Elena, she was known for her farfetched theories. She pretended to be a scientist. She forced several actual scientists to write papers in her name so she could graduate. So despite the party's order, they secretly built it. Because of this, the platforms are somewhat asymmetrical, very narrow (less than 1.5 m wide) and the waiting area is in a corridor separated by thick walls from the platforms in order to sustain the station's structure. While trains ran past without stopping for about a year, thousands of residents reportedly wrote to petition for a station, which was opened in November 1988.
Sorry for asking but are you a real person? Coz you I see your comments everywhere😂
Very fond memories of using this station in the early noughties when contracting in New Cavendish Street. Not being a fan of commuting, being able to take the Bakerloo to a quiet stop and then a nice walk passed some very grand Regency buildings is the perfect way to start and end the working day.
yes, handy if you live in the North to avoid the Melee of Oxford Circus
@@highpath4776 I used to walk to Regent's Park from my work in Carnaby Street, get a train to Warwick Avenue, (another lightly used station) and then walk home to Ladbroke Grove. As you say, anything to avoid the horrors of Oxford Street!
@@bertspeggly4428 I wonder if folk will work out on nice days Old Oak Common - walk to Willesden Junction, then Regents Park walk Oxford Circus (or Bond Street) is a nicer way of geting to central london?
I remember when Regents Park Station was closed for several months a few years ago. The onboard announcements and slow moving service through the closed platform was the most attention it ever had.
Fact-filled rambling is always a pleasant detour/diversion....even if "That Man" gets another mention. :-)) Perhaps the landowners were less bothered by a station by the time CTY made his application to parliament or maybe they were charmed by him. Do we know if there was ever a meeting between them?
Given that the crown estate was one of the objectors, the passing on Queen Victoria in 1901 may have had an effect on their lack of objection in 1902
If this is the second least used tube station in zone 1, what’s the first?! (I’d guess either the Bakerloo Edgware Road, Borough, Queensway, Lambeth North or Bayswater)
I was wondering that as well. I found the usage statistics published by TfL for 2022 and from that it looks like Regent's Park is actually number 1 with 2,207,000 taps. Lambeth North is number 2 with 2,567,000
I did some more digging, and on the Wikipedia page for Regent's Park tube it states that it is the second least-used station in zone 1, behind Lambeth North. I suspect that this is what Jago is referencing. However, that claim is based on the usage data from 2015. As of 2022, Regent's Park has in fact surpassed Lambeth North as the least-used station in zone 1
Because the Bakerloo Line only goes north, whereas all other lines have both north and south, or east and west feeder stations. The Bakerloo needs extending to Lewisham, then the central stations will be better used.
Borough and Queensway seem reasonably busy. Bayswater is a lot quieter than the almost adjacent Queensway.
Bakerloo ER and Lambeth North are good shouts. The latter is handy for the Imperial War Museum but otherwise that area still feels very quiet compared to so much of the South Bank these days.
that's answered my question then
Which is the least used station in Zone 1 then? If there's a video about it that I overlooked, apologies
I also would love to know. I will be spending hours trying to find the answer
@@JeannieWeanieHow are you getting on? All I can think of is Pimlico but not sure if that’s zone 1 or not
@@thomasday3256 no luck at all. Pimlico is in zone 1 so possibly
Lambeth North in 2015, but Regents Park had overtaken (undertaken?) it by 2022. Pimlico gets a fair amount of traffic for the Tate Gallery.
A very well-preserved station, especially the bottle-green tiling. Intrigued when googling Whitaker Wright to learn about his doomed underwater ballroom in Godalming - material for a future episode....?
we need one of them for Strictly vs Pro-Celbrity Water Polo on ITV1
There actually is a video on this channel that talks about it. Quite an old one though.
@@JagoHazzard I remember WW (though had forgotten him in the context of Bakerloo for this vid) but dont recall the specifics of Godalming Ballrooms (Did you visit Godalming - you should, SWR train station and nearby Hollycombe collection for a day out.
@@highpath4776 As long as the horses don't drown!
TFL should have a Jago Hazzard station.
You’re starting to inspire me to make history videos on Irish stations.
I know the feeling. I feel influenced!
Please do. I, for one, would be interested to learn about Irish stations in a way similar to Jago's awesome videos.
Would you start with the DART?
@@jamesbutler6253 not quite. I’m starting with the Harcourt Street line in a few days.
I'd love to see platform artworks at Regent's Park Station, showing scenes in and around the park itself
I won't steal the silver 🤣Brilliant
I used the station a fair bit in my youth. playing football in Regent's Park
Hold on, a shady businessman that ISN'T Charles Tyson Yerkes????
There is my good friend Elon Musk...
Yes, at 3:34 I was convinced that the "extraordinarily shady businessman" would be Yerkes! Still, you can't keep a good (bad) man down, Jago was just saving him till later.
I was nearing halfway through this video thinking to myself, you know what, there’s not enough Charles Tyson Yerkes in this story…
But then moments later, sure enough, there he was!
Good old Charles Yerkes, the pantomime villain of the London Underground.
Excellent as per, sir. The lift/elevator discussion reminds me of my time living across the street from Tufnell Park and praying for a prompt descent when in a rush. I wonder if there are some nuggets of interest from the various stations which still have no escalators! In any case, my disappointment is absent and my day is made.
My Christmas is now complete! Yerkes is back, baby, and he's raring to go!
According to DiamondGeezer it is the least used station in Zone 1 with lambeth North in second but that was back in June 2023
Just love this part of Christmas when I binge on my favourite channels and get to wish someone like Jago a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year for all of the presents he gives us over the past year. 🎉
I thought my " Wellington`s Unsung Heros: The 5th Division in the Peninsular" was a special Book...however, you just toped that with the Tube Books...well played Sir...well Played
Proving what a backwater this station is, I once got stuck in the lift which stopped about one metre above the lower level. After a good 20 minutes of pressing the alarm button and no one working at the station coming to help me and my travelling companion, I decided to force open the doors and squeeze through the small gap between the lift and the lower level.
5:04 First of all, I would never use that word. Second of all, windbags are making a comeback.
Fascinating! I grew up in Chicago, and have been reading about Charles Tyson Yerkes for years. He was just as unscrupulous in Chicago as he was in London, just younger. My favorite Yerkes story is how the University of Chicago got him to make a donation. Charity was, not surprisingly, not his thing. So, the president of the University announced they were going to name a new building after him, even without a donation. I suppose he realized that the negative press that would follow that would be too much even for him--so he made the donation.
If you like Yerkes, we have someone cut from the same cloth in America now. His name is Donald Trump. We'd love to relocate him to London, too. Interested?
Not on your life, thank you very much. NO!
Only if he pays for and builds 3 new tube lines and stays out of politics (though I doubt he'd have the same success here as on t'other side of the pond)
@@iankemp1131 But would London really want a tube line named the Trump Line? 😉
Hazzard's Christmas present to the Yerkes fan club.
It's the only place I feel safe
I remember those old staff operated lifts 🛗 at Regent’s Park, Goodge Street and Aldwych. The operator at Aldwych explained the lift was installed in 1920, refurbished 1954. They represented London’s late Victorian /Edwardian atmosphere, like a Sherlock Holmes novel
I think Gloucester Road along had staff operated lifts. I remember having to use them in the early 1980s for the few days I stayed nearby. I found the ride in those lifts quite a frightening experience. Lots of people crammed in for each ride, the mechanical shutter gate that the operator pulled across, ugh, I didn't like them at all.
I have fond memories of Regents Park. I used to go and visit my new girlfriend (who later became my wife) almost every day, who was studying at International Student House just down the road. It feels like a bit of a blast from the past riding on the old bouncy 72 stock and getting off at a lovely old station with green tiling. It was never that busy, which I quite liked.
Handy station for visiting one's doctor in Harley Street when one's Rolls is being valeted.
Victoria dieing and being superseeded by Edward might have meant the Crown Estate was less bothered.
Multiple drinks necessary during that one, cheers Jago! #yerkesDrinkingGame
I use this station to get home from work whenever the Watford Junction - Euston overground is closed. But only going northbound because I'm too lazy to cross the street for Baker Street. It's a very quiet and tidy station with seating that never gets full since I think the most people I've ever seen on the platforms is maybe 7 or 8. Only thing I dislike about this station are the lifts.
The early twentieth century had a better class of scoundrel. Taking one’s life when caught, doing stuff up to sell, rather then just extracting value.
All old LUL lines lead to Yerkes ! Who'd have guessed ? 😀
Two shady businessmen in one video - now that's value for money!
wonder how many people actually see those billboard adverts . (prob more on a JH vid than waiting for a train)
The trouble with it is, it's nowhere near the zoo, which probably would bring it more travellers. Why else would you go to Regent's Park? 🤔
The part within the inner circle is the most botanically interesting, and being free of both dogs and sports fields, the most peaceful.
Only times I’ve been there is to go to the hospitals on Harley Street
I remember as a child going to the Zoo and being surprised we didn't go to Regents Park station. Outward Camden Town then bus, return - bus to Baker Street. Of course, seeing a map in later years, it all made sense.
I trust the solicitor for the Metropolitan Railway also went 😝 when offering that considered judgment in the measured language of his profession
Used to live just around the corner from this station. This and Great Portland St were closest, some very fond memories started and ended from these.
"Do you live on the Crescent?" That's not how I remember Mary, Mungo and Midge...
Ah, the good old days, when all you needed to fool the public was an American accent and a thunderous mustache.
Hi Jago, Thank you for another informative walk down memory lane for me (I used to work on Paddington Green 70s/80s and lived in W2). I've taken the tube between Regent's Park and Edgeware Road many times as it gave me access to a couple of professional headquarters buildings in Langham Place. 73, POHM
Three things certain in life: death, taxes and Charles Tyson Yerkees in a Jago YT clip
It's a beautiful thing
Charles Yerkes more like Charles Somehow Makes It Werkes.
That was my nickname back in the day
What, there were 2 shady characters that owned underground lines, what ever next.
1:44 is that definitely true Jago?
Thanks for all the great content have a very Happy New Year.
It's nice to see the apostrophe at 0:34 but big disappointment at 5:57
Oh, *another* extraordinarily shady businessman? I do hope this is setting up some exciting adventures involving Charles T. Yerkes (Gawd bless 'im) and Whittaker Wright for the new year
Considerate how they made an attempt to make the CCTV camera at 6:03 blend in by decorating it in the line colours and sticking a tiny Underground roundel on it
I dont think all are CCTV , some are specifcally for drivers to check platform and doors are clear
Jago & Geoff Marshall for all railway related.
When will they do a duet?
I think the platforms/tracks are described as "stacked" rather than double decker ?
May have actually made the Bakerloo better to not have Lambeth North and Regents Park tbh… would have sped it up a little.
Lambeth North handy because of the Depot. And was nearest station for Necropolis in the day
A Yerkes number! Mr Hazzard, have you considered doing a tour of the final resting places of the great men and women of the Underground?
Many thanks! It is a possible future subject.
I used to use Regents Park all the time, when I lived in London. Was always fun to take the stairs.
Welcome to The Twilight Zone Mr Hazzard
Interesting video idea. When your in the south east next, a video covering the uckfield line (history and future reopening) would be cool. It's an interesting subject and there is a chance of it still happening. There are some lovely little surprises on this line. Every station bar one is still there. There's a small heritage line. One of the old uckfield station platform still stands with it's lovely signal box opposite still standing and restored recently. Furthermore plenty of evidence of the lines double track with various abandoned platforms and evidence that the line was there. I personally just think it would be an interesting topic to cover.
Damn you, Mr Hazard: I decided to try a game of 'Drink-along-a-Yerkes' for this video, and now I am typing while lying on the floor.
Many thanks for this, a deservedly under-used station which isn't even convenient for the Zoo.
Happy Belated Christmas or whatever you celebrate and best wishes for the new year! ❤ from 🗽
Second least used? So presumably the other one's Nine Elms, which shouldn't even be in zone 1 at all?
Jago has presumably got the information from Wikipedia, which lists Lambeth North as the least-used station in Zone 1. However, in 2022, Lambeth North had 2.57 million passengers, as against Regent's Parks' 2.15. (Source: diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2023/06/anorak-corner-tube-edition.html ) Nine Elms is well ahead of them both at 3.47 million.
I thought that was Dave Gorman in the first shot. I had to really squint to see it wasn't
Charles Tyson Yerkes. Check and like!
Any video containing Charles Yerkes is a good watch. Used to use Regents Park station a few times each year and it always seemed a strange station, I guess mainly because of the lack of a surface level building. Thanks Jago.
I'm back for the Festive Season! Happy New Year all!
Boo to you Charles you American cad! Boo to you with knobs on!
Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Greetings from Chicago, Chuck!
Where's my darn money Yerkes! 😠
@@brianparker663Invested in UERL
@@lloydcollins6337Nice change of tone
Another fab video! I recently was around the crescent (for a gig at 229) and it's always cool seeing it in your videos.
I, too, participate in all kinds of metaphors vigorously!
C E P C ? (Crown Estates Parks Committee ?)
“The next station is Regents Park. Change here for Local Buses to ZSL London Zoo.” Are there any other stations on the network where the announcements tell you to change for a bus to somewhere more interesting?
Weirder still is that it's not actually a great place to get a bus to London zoo, you're better off on the 274 from Baker Street
@@PaulJaYmes Exactly. I remember as a child going to the Zoo and being surprised we didn't go to Regents Park station. Outward Camden Town then bus, return - bus to Baker Street. Of course, seeing a map in later years, it all made sense.
I'd love it if you could do a video on Park Square, the private garden there. It's got some old structures and it's split across two sides of the road by (I think) an underpass. They're doing some construction work there now. Classic Jago material in my book!
The number one least used in zone one being aldwych of course👍
I am surprised you didn't mention its only a very short walk from Great Portland Street station.
Definitely station of choice for Marylebone high street which has reached the moon it is so up market these days. Also good for Fitzrovia which has also come a long way in the last 20 years. I don’t mind the lifts since the passenger numbers are low you don’t need to queue.
Much better name, the Baker Street and WateRoo railway (3:12)
Second least used station in zone1?? 🤔Pray enlighten us-as to THE least used! Thanks in advance😁
I'll second this. I went through the statistics, though not very thoroughly, and I am as perplexed as before I did so. If only they'd included zone numbers or I knew the stations in zone 1 better....
Fraud on the railways? really? No wonder these schemes got driven underground! Welcome back Charles Yerkes a big hello to James Whitaker Wright. Thank you, Jago, for another fascinating video.
Just when I thought my day was a little...sh*t...in swings Yerkes (💰💸) and then all is right in my world 🤪😊! Happy Holidays Jaggo and viewers.
I see Yerkes, I drink
I lose consciousness 😂
One of my favourite stations. Love the tiling.
As someone who's used the Underground for the best part of 70 years, I just tend to take the stations as given. They've always been there and they always will be - even though I've seen quite a few go and a lot more appear over the years.
They still seem like a permanent part of London it's pretty much impossible to imagine the city without them.
So it's slightly disturbing to discover just how many have ceased to be, or have changed their names - even locations. And to know that some of them very nearly didn't get built in the first place!
Did the original planners and builders just not understand what should go where?! It beggars belief.
London was much smaller and the tubes were aimed at least with people with money. The market changed to the middling classes and new suburbs further out , effectively inventing Zone 3 and beyond for the masses and making central stations a bit too close together for a fast cross london routings. Routes were restricted to where you could get cheap land rights - so under roads and avoiding deep basements . Are the stations in the best places, probably not, but not far off
Urban development is an unpredictable crapshoot. It is perhaps the most damaging delusion of the late 1900s that it is something that can be satisfactorily planned in advance.
The way to build great cities is a gradient. It’s never perfect, it’s never done. There’s always something new to build, something old to tear down.
@@hylje The big separation (in England) was to design (polluting) industry away from residential and educational/commercial. Of course the chemical noxious and explosions still happened , just more out of sight.
I'm not an expert but I think there was no central planning of the tube network, including the central London area. Different companies built railways and underground lines that competed for passengers with each other. Companies did merge but they started out as lots of different ones.
They also focused on North London because the ground there was much easier and cheaper to tunnels through.
There are also plenty of areas without a tube or rail station, so not at all well served by public transport because it all started out as such a hodgepodge thing. As far as I know anyway.
@@GiselleBel That is a reasonable summary. Map over too the electric tram services and then the existing rail services of non-tube companies and you do get at least an explaination of places of work and settlement. We also forget for east london (both sides) how important the thames was , and as for thamesmead the area was marshes and barely fit for development until the concrete age. The co-op built lots of houses around Woolwich down to Kidbrook and up to 80000 people worked at the Woolwich Arsenal making bombs and field guns , which was an insane number and they would walk or take tram from that housing or other local terraces with the shops also provided by the co-op. The upper classes lived in Blackheath- with rail to London Bridge for Bank. The difference tended to be Frank Pick for the Underground Group ran services every 5 mins from most branch ends, the Southern and others it was every 30 ( and the rails had to be shared with longer distance services too - a problem which affects the Elizabeth Line esp in the west today.
I always used regents park
The Upper Crust types around Regent Park don’t use it much then!
we could talk commas again
The shady Yerkes was a great doer and we have to thank him for the basics of the deep tube Underground, as often said.
Happy new year JH
GREAT CONTENT AS EVER
Regent's Park is probably the first Tube station I've ever gotten off at in my life, I must've been around 5
In case I don't have a chance later,
Happy new year, Jago!
"Shady businessman".
Uh oh, here we go again.
*Mysterious Music*
set us up nicely to call out the wrong name , had me mis-footed
A great video once again. Plus I had enough beer for Charles Yerkes to be mentioned.
Ooh, which beer?
I’m glad to see that your co-host C T Yerkes got featured at least one more time before the end of 2023
At least I have used the little-used station when I wanted to get to, er, Regents Park. But there must be quite a few other stations in zone 1 I haven't been to, yet.
I remember the Bakerloo when it was made out of wood, always liked it as a kid in the '60s.
Soft spot for this station. Usually use it for Marylebone High Street if coming northbound. Can be a nice walk.
I like that in London, at least the citycentre, you can travel to anywhere you have to be with the underground or the other intertwined railservices, without having to take a bus stuck in rush hour traffic.
Oh Hello Yurkies (again!!!) I've got to know him though you Jago - otherwise I wouldn't never have heard of him!!! 😉🚂🚂🚂
That Mr Yerkes got about, didn't he?
"Headed by the extraordinarily shady businessman ..." (waits for that American bloke's name, rhymes with herpes) "... Whitaker-Wright". Oh. There was more than one!
As ever: Information, Interest & a Chuckle.