@@uli11 Because you’re objectively measurably and scientifically wrong and have a substantial amount of misguided confidence. Whilst a lot would agree that 3 is the weakest part of the franchise, me included, it is nowhere near the worst action movie of all time. It’s action and world building is unprecedented, it’s only weak side is its abysmal plot. 4 on the other hand is for me, one of the greatest action movies ever made, it’s action is literal perfection, its world building is fantastic, and the story here is incredible as this movie masks a relatively simple story from a internal cover of mythological roles and societies. John Wick 4 is the modern day equivalent of Odysseus, and laughs in the face in all other action movies besides maybe Fallout and The Raid. And if you don’t think so, then you’re the one at a loss here, so unlucky I guess. Imagine spending money seeing one of the greatest action movies of all time, and then not enjoying it unlike 93% of the audience.
For me, I watch movies to enjoy not to know who, where, what. I need to relax and just watch non complicated story. Uni is hard enough for me, I don't need to solve another mystery. John Wick is so refreshing to me because they show it all not imply it or slap you with text walls.
I haven’t seen the fourth one yet. However, from the first three, it is pretty clear that the movies don’t try to be something they’re not. Straightforward story, intense action, not a lot of dialogue.
I think the thing with Perkins is that she wanted John for herself, but as we know, he met Helen while still working. I bet Perkins wanted him to cheat on Helen with her, but he didn’t go through with it, and Perkins has been bitter about it. That’s why she gives him the sultry looks she gives him and why she said “you were always a pussy.” It felt personal. Most people who know John would think the opposite.
Oh, The writers block the action style and world building is both why John wick works not one or either but both. Just like the the matrix is just a action movie
another great video essay, even though I haven't fallen for the John Wick franchise yet after only watching the first one and thinking it was okay but not that special.
Its very much the empire strikes back to a new hope situation. 1st is a more complete story standalone, but the sequel really expands the world and begins a saga
"What are the Clone Wars?" "It doesn't really matter." [Shows scenes from Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 3, Episode 2, ARC Troopers, which involves the Separatist invasion of Kamino, the homeworld of the Clones, in order to steal the stretched genetic code of the late Jango Fett, in order to halt Clone production and gain a foothold in the war, but are in part thwarted by a defective old Clone by the name of 99 giving his life in the name of his fellow brothers who fight on his behalf and will continue to fight where he was never given a chance in what is really just one big proxy war for a man with an insatiable apatite for power to take over the Galaxy and ruin the lives of countless beings across the Galaxy] Okay... But yeah kinda. 😄 I will say that I think the most successful John Wick is the first one. My head starts to hurt a bit with the second and third one. I doubt it will really get any clearer with the fourth, but I also haven't rewatched them frequently enough to really catch all the details and really get a better picture. I haven't poured much more than just the hours of the runtimes into them like I have Star Wars. I really need to do some rewatches. I remember hearing there was a spinoff show at one point, and I was like, "Wait, there's more to the Wick-iverse than just what's in the movies?" Having the amount of time as a show can also help make things clearer. I also hear there's going to be a spinoff movie called Ballerina. At this rate, half the world's population's gonna be dead. Assassins on jobs and then assassins killing assassins, nowhere is safe.
A) Lol yeah I mainly meant it doesn't matter at the time, as the movie stands alone perfectly. Definitely not saying that the Clone Wars weren't important in the univers [Literally had that footage because I'm one or 2 projects out from doing a video on what it means to be a Clone and am planning on breaking down the Rookies Arc, The Umbara Ark, and the Battlefront 2 (ps2 era) campaign] B) The World of John Wick can definitely be a lot if you're trying to look at it too logically. It's more about vibes and "The Rule of Cool" than something like LotR where you got a deeply fleshed out and established world. I would love to see and economics channel break down how the economy of the John Wick world would work given that it seems like everybody and their mother is an Assassin. Like, who do they get paid to take out if they're all a part of the guild? Is there Trickle Down Wickonomics? Does John Wick's Rampage contribute to or alleviate gold coin inflation?
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial No I got it. Even as a big Star Wars fan, anything past the Original Trilogy is supplemental to the plot of those three movies. The stories told in other eras, in other mediums, they still have value and they have important stakes within their respective narratives. They hopefully enhance the world and make the Original Trilogy even stronger when looking at the larger tapestry, but it's never crucial to have seen everything. And then as for John Wick, I'm sure it does make sense, I'm not trying to be too logical about it, but having seen them years apart from each other, it's hard to remember all the rules and names and the hierarchy, as well as then having your double and triplecrosses on top of that. It will only help to watch them again.
The John Wick character has the same personality with Keanu Reeves. Keanu Reeves IS John Wick. Both personas are men of few words. They also do not need any introduction. Everyone knows who they are and if someone actually didnt, theyd be an idiot. Wherever they go, they command respect. Both men are about focus, commitment, and overcoming adversity. We see John battle through an Army. Keanu is so commited as an actor he trained in shooting, stunt driving, and grappling. Aside from that he overcame many personal tragedies to re-emerge as one of the awesomest action stars we have today
What's with all this talk about John Wick being like the rare action movies, pretending that Mission Impossible and at the very least Fast & Furious franchises never exist?
9:00 "and a sympathetic character that we are rooting for throughtout the franchise" Are we though? He is the character that the movies are named for so he's not going to die, ever. But more importantly he is completely impervious to harm. Sure, he got hurt in the first movie but in 2 and 3 people simply cannot hit him even if he is standing still in the middle of a room surrounded by *trained assassins*. There is nothing to root for, every time JW comes across a badguy he simply pops the badguy in the head before the guy can do anyting. If he does have to do hand-to-hand combat with multiple assassins they politely wiat their turn to get killed. If they don't get killed immediately they pretend to be in a really bad shape until their buddy gets knocked out and then suddenly they revive and attack again. THe "he keeps getting drawn back in" is not a good stroyline, it's literally repeating the premise from the first movie over and over. Answer me this: if JW is such a good assassin who is feared across the globe, then why are so many other assassins so willing to die in an attempt at killing him for a few million dollars? And why do they all fail? At some point they show that even every other homeless person is actually an assassin and JW did not know this? And if they are so unrecognizable as assasins, why have none of them simply popped a cap in JW's ass as he walked by? Or did he never walk by a homeless person since the bounty was set? I am truely amazed at who people who are interested in writing can find this "script" good. Are you just blinded by the action (which is nicely choreographed but it has nothing to do with anything that reembles reality) or do you just like Reeves and anything he does has to be defended as a master piece? The thing with the dog was obvious from the start; last gift from girlfriend, so that dog dies at some point. An assassin can't do anything if he has to look after a dog. And he takes the dog personally so obviously he's going to get a new dog at the end. Predictable cliche.
I cannot disagree more with you regarding JW 3 and 4. Those films are the biggest dogshit films I think I have ever seen. Like, taking two amazing films with good pacing and making the double-prolapsed anuses that were 3 and 4. Overly long fight scenes that are overly theatrical, overemphasis on racial stereotypes in villains rather than the iconic "through the looking glass" feel of 1 or 2. It almost gives a "see how the sausage is made", and it's neither compelling nor pretty. What makes JW 1 and 2 so good- is the surreality of having this underworld just beyond the "normal" view. And as our protagonist is an expert in the world and its rules, John acts as a sort of tour guide for the audience, who get a sense of "fish out of water". They also leave enough of the underworld a mystery, that we don't ever lose that feeling. Compare this to 3 and 4, and all of a sudden we are Harry Truman finding the edge of the map. And immersion is broken when you can see the end of the world. And a final element that makes 1 and 2 so compelling, whereas 3 and 4 are just... awful- the magical world is grounded by coreography which feels extremely real. From the way John moves, to the way he holds his gun in cqc scenes- every decision is made to make the violence feel less like "theater choreography" and more like "brutal real brawling". In 3 and 4, *all* of that reality is gone, in favor of bullet proof tuxedos and over the top choreography. So now the violence doesn't serve to balance out the fantastical world, it plays part in it.
@@EightPaleHorses just didn’t like it that much. The first one was good, really solid action movie, but I think people are getting carried away with the praise.
@@randomasdfx7891I do not agree with you, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I myself like the non complicated John Wick. Good straight forward story and an unrelenting violence. There are no good people in this universe.
Which John Wick Film is your Favorite????? Why?
1 and 2 are bonafide masterpieces... 3 and 4 are some of the worst action films I've ever seen.
@@uli11 Yeh, this is why some people should just not be asked for their opinion.
@@Perceptive-Abyss because I'm objectively measurably and scientifically correct?
@@uli11 Because you’re objectively measurably and scientifically wrong and have a substantial amount of misguided confidence. Whilst a lot would agree that 3 is the weakest part of the franchise, me included, it is nowhere near the worst action movie of all time. It’s action and world building is unprecedented, it’s only weak side is its abysmal plot. 4 on the other hand is for me, one of the greatest action movies ever made, it’s action is literal perfection, its world building is fantastic, and the story here is incredible as this movie masks a relatively simple story from a internal cover of mythological roles and societies. John Wick 4 is the modern day equivalent of Odysseus, and laughs in the face in all other action movies besides maybe Fallout and The Raid. And if you don’t think so, then you’re the one at a loss here, so unlucky I guess. Imagine spending money seeing one of the greatest action movies of all time, and then not enjoying it unlike 93% of the audience.
@@Perceptive-Abyss you used a lot of words to say nothing. Nicely done.
I'm right, you're wrong.
the world john wick is set in is so fascinating. it is like a whole mythology and we dont fully understand it but thats a good thing
bro watching this video makes john wick look like a wire anniversary party
I thought it was pretty obvious in the first film that all John wanted was peace and closure lol
For me, I watch movies to enjoy not to know who, where, what. I need to relax and just watch non complicated story. Uni is hard enough for me, I don't need to solve another mystery.
John Wick is so refreshing to me because they show it all not imply it or slap you with text walls.
4:53 damn you really just did that 😂😂😂
I haven’t seen the fourth one yet. However, from the first three, it is pretty clear that the movies don’t try to be something they’re not. Straightforward story, intense action, not a lot of dialogue.
I think the thing with Perkins is that she wanted John for herself, but as we know, he met Helen while still working. I bet Perkins wanted him to cheat on Helen with her, but he didn’t go through with it, and Perkins has been bitter about it. That’s why she gives him the sultry looks she gives him and why she said “you were always a pussy.” It felt personal. Most people who know John would think the opposite.
To be fair everyone be giving sultry looks to John. I think thats just the default style of eye contact in this universe lol
nice story! could well be true too, Chad Stahelski, Keanu, and the writers do like leaving it open for the audience
1:39 now that's a good brun right there 😂
Oh, The writers block the action style and world building is both why John wick works not one or either but both. Just like the the matrix is just a action movie
I agree say story makes sense
another great video essay, even though I haven't fallen for the John Wick franchise yet after only watching the first one and thinking it was okay but not that special.
Thanks!
Then watch all of them and compare it to other action movies
The second one is the one that made me fall in love
Its very much the empire strikes back to a new hope situation. 1st is a more complete story standalone, but the sequel really expands the world and begins a saga
The second one is my favourite action movie
Donde es la tierra ❤❤❤❤de Los Ángeles como vamos ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤cuando termina este juego ❤❤❤❤❤❤te Amo ❤❤❤
Nearly or about 99% of everyone praises the movie
Shadiversity: *BLAMES SO HARD ABOUT JOHN WICK USING A NUNCHUCK INSTEAD OF A STICK*
these movies are highly rated
"What are the Clone Wars?" "It doesn't really matter."
[Shows scenes from Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 3, Episode 2, ARC Troopers, which involves the Separatist invasion of Kamino, the homeworld of the Clones, in order to steal the stretched genetic code of the late Jango Fett, in order to halt Clone production and gain a foothold in the war, but are in part thwarted by a defective old Clone by the name of 99 giving his life in the name of his fellow brothers who fight on his behalf and will continue to fight where he was never given a chance in what is really just one big proxy war for a man with an insatiable apatite for power to take over the Galaxy and ruin the lives of countless beings across the Galaxy]
Okay... But yeah kinda. 😄
I will say that I think the most successful John Wick is the first one. My head starts to hurt a bit with the second and third one. I doubt it will really get any clearer with the fourth, but I also haven't rewatched them frequently enough to really catch all the details and really get a better picture. I haven't poured much more than just the hours of the runtimes into them like I have Star Wars. I really need to do some rewatches. I remember hearing there was a spinoff show at one point, and I was like, "Wait, there's more to the Wick-iverse than just what's in the movies?" Having the amount of time as a show can also help make things clearer. I also hear there's going to be a spinoff movie called Ballerina. At this rate, half the world's population's gonna be dead. Assassins on jobs and then assassins killing assassins, nowhere is safe.
A) Lol yeah I mainly meant it doesn't matter at the time, as the movie stands alone perfectly. Definitely not saying that the Clone Wars weren't important in the univers [Literally had that footage because I'm one or 2 projects out from doing a video on what it means to be a Clone and am planning on breaking down the Rookies Arc, The Umbara Ark, and the Battlefront 2 (ps2 era) campaign]
B) The World of John Wick can definitely be a lot if you're trying to look at it too logically. It's more about vibes and "The Rule of Cool" than something like LotR where you got a deeply fleshed out and established world. I would love to see and economics channel break down how the economy of the John Wick world would work given that it seems like everybody and their mother is an Assassin. Like, who do they get paid to take out if they're all a part of the guild? Is there Trickle Down Wickonomics? Does John Wick's Rampage contribute to or alleviate gold coin inflation?
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial No I got it. Even as a big Star Wars fan, anything past the Original Trilogy is supplemental to the plot of those three movies. The stories told in other eras, in other mediums, they still have value and they have important stakes within their respective narratives. They hopefully enhance the world and make the Original Trilogy even stronger when looking at the larger tapestry, but it's never crucial to have seen everything.
And then as for John Wick, I'm sure it does make sense, I'm not trying to be too logical about it, but having seen them years apart from each other, it's hard to remember all the rules and names and the hierarchy, as well as then having your double and triplecrosses on top of that. It will only help to watch them again.
JW3 made more sense when you know what Old Man of the Mountain means.
The John Wick character has the same personality with Keanu Reeves. Keanu Reeves IS John Wick. Both personas are men of few words. They also do not need any introduction. Everyone knows who they are and if someone actually didnt, theyd be an idiot. Wherever they go, they command respect. Both men are about focus, commitment, and overcoming adversity. We see John battle through an Army. Keanu is so commited as an actor he trained in shooting, stunt driving, and grappling. Aside from that he overcame many personal tragedies to re-emerge as one of the awesomest action stars we have today
If My Wife Recently Died and Sent Me a Pet and Someone Killed This Pet i Can Assure You "Jack Wick" Would be Born
What's with all this talk about John Wick being like the rare action movies, pretending that Mission Impossible and at the very least Fast & Furious franchises never exist?
The difference is those are ass. Those aren’t even in the same league as John Wick.
@@BIGxBOSSxx1 MI is exponentially better than any John wick film.
@@adityadas5820 you couldn’t be anymore wrong
@@BIGxBOSSxx1 Nope, john wick movies are mindless action films, mission impossible movies have good characters and actual stakes.
Anyone else have to put the video in 1.5x speed to listen to this guy?
9:00 "and a sympathetic character that we are rooting for throughtout the franchise"
Are we though? He is the character that the movies are named for so he's not going to die, ever. But more importantly he is completely impervious to harm. Sure, he got hurt in the first movie but in 2 and 3 people simply cannot hit him even if he is standing still in the middle of a room surrounded by *trained assassins*.
There is nothing to root for, every time JW comes across a badguy he simply pops the badguy in the head before the guy can do anyting. If he does have to do hand-to-hand combat with multiple assassins they politely wiat their turn to get killed. If they don't get killed immediately they pretend to be in a really bad shape until their buddy gets knocked out and then suddenly they revive and attack again.
THe "he keeps getting drawn back in" is not a good stroyline, it's literally repeating the premise from the first movie over and over.
Answer me this: if JW is such a good assassin who is feared across the globe, then why are so many other assassins so willing to die in an attempt at killing him for a few million dollars? And why do they all fail?
At some point they show that even every other homeless person is actually an assassin and JW did not know this? And if they are so unrecognizable as assasins, why have none of them simply popped a cap in JW's ass as he walked by? Or did he never walk by a homeless person since the bounty was set?
I am truely amazed at who people who are interested in writing can find this "script" good. Are you just blinded by the action (which is nicely choreographed but it has nothing to do with anything that reembles reality) or do you just like Reeves and anything he does has to be defended as a master piece?
The thing with the dog was obvious from the start; last gift from girlfriend, so that dog dies at some point. An assassin can't do anything if he has to look after a dog. And he takes the dog personally so obviously he's going to get a new dog at the end. Predictable cliche.
I cannot disagree more with you regarding JW 3 and 4. Those films are the biggest dogshit films I think I have ever seen. Like, taking two amazing films with good pacing and making the double-prolapsed anuses that were 3 and 4. Overly long fight scenes that are overly theatrical, overemphasis on racial stereotypes in villains rather than the iconic "through the looking glass" feel of 1 or 2. It almost gives a "see how the sausage is made", and it's neither compelling nor pretty.
What makes JW 1 and 2 so good- is the surreality of having this underworld just beyond the "normal" view. And as our protagonist is an expert in the world and its rules, John acts as a sort of tour guide for the audience, who get a sense of "fish out of water".
They also leave enough of the underworld a mystery, that we don't ever lose that feeling. Compare this to 3 and 4, and all of a sudden we are Harry Truman finding the edge of the map. And immersion is broken when you can see the end of the world.
And a final element that makes 1 and 2 so compelling, whereas 3 and 4 are just... awful- the magical world is grounded by coreography which feels extremely real. From the way John moves, to the way he holds his gun in cqc scenes- every decision is made to make the violence feel less like "theater choreography" and more like "brutal real brawling". In 3 and 4, *all* of that reality is gone, in favor of bullet proof tuxedos and over the top choreography. So now the violence doesn't serve to balance out the fantastical world, it plays part in it.
Part two wasn’t even that good.
Why's that?
@@EightPaleHorses just didn’t like it that much. The first one was good, really solid action movie, but I think people are getting carried away with the praise.
The first three movies are pretty average, let's see what the fourth one brings.
No, they are not.
You are less than average if you think that way.
@@randomasdfx7891 oof
@@randomasdfx7891I do not agree with you, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I myself like the non complicated John Wick. Good straight forward story and an unrelenting violence. There are no good people in this universe.
Fast forwards to the end of Marley and Me!! What a double whammy of a line🥲
A movie every month “saves” the superhero or action genre.
Ok
Not Oscar-worthy
Yes it has every core element to be an Oscar worthy film.