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  • Shocking Views of Shabir Ally
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  • @falsehoodexterminator2336
    @falsehoodexterminator2336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    I love brother Muhammad Tim Humble’s classes. He is MaShaAllah very knowledgeable and someone we can trust to get ilm from. He has done videos on the subjects like “Are Women in Islam are oppressed” and “Is Sharia Barbaric” and many more and MaShaAllah he’s done a beautiful job explaining everything with dalils from the Quran and Sunnah Alhamdullilah. We don’t need to be apologetic because we have the haqq Alhamdullilah.

    • @sykesyke5786
      @sykesyke5786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @peakinyou
      @peakinyou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      | UPDATED LIST |
      Here are some major scholars upon the truth to take knowledge from:
      Some major scholars from the past:
      Imam Al Hasan Al Basri (d 118AH).
      Imam Abu Hanifa (d. 150H)
      Imam Maalik (d.179H).
      Imam Ash Shafi’i d. 204AH
      Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal(d.241H)
      Imam Bukhaari (d.256H)
      Imam Tirmidhi (d. 270 H.)
      Al Bazzar (d 292H)
      Imam Ibn Jareer Al Tabari(d.310H)
      Imam Ibn Khuzaymah (d 311H).
      Imam Ibn Abi Dawood (d.316H)
      Imam Al Barbahare(d.329H)
      Imam Ibn Hibban (Died 355H).
      Imam Al Ajurri(d.360H)
      Imam Al Daraqutni (d 385AH).
      Imam Lalakai d.418H
      Ibn Hazm (d 442 AH)
      Abu Ismaeel As'Saaboonee (449H)
      Al Bayhaqi (d.457H).
      al-Khateeb al-Baghdaadee (d.463H)
      Imam Ibn 'Abdul-Barr (463H)
      Imam Al Baghawi (d.AH516)
      Shaykh 'Abdul Qadir al-Jilaanee (561H)
      Ibn Qudaamah (d.620 AH).
      Imam Al Qurtubi (d 651, AH).
      Imam Al Nawawi (d.676H)
      Shaykh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah d.728
      Ibn Abi Izz (d 731 AH)
      Imam Ibn Al Qayyim (d.751)
      Ibn Muflih (d.763H).
      Ibn Kathir d.774 AH
      Ibn Rajab (d 795)
      Ibn Hajar Al Asqalaani (d.852H)
      Jalal Al Din as Suyuti (d911H).
      Shaykh Al Islam Muhammad Ibn Al Abdul Wahab (d.1206 AH).
      Imam Ash Shawkani (d 1212AH)
      May allah have mercy on them all
      MODERN DAY SCHOLARS
      Passed Away:
      Shaykh ʿAbd ar-Raḥmān Ibn Nāṣir as-Saʿdī(d. 1376H)
      Shaykh Aḥmad Muḥammad Shākir(d. 1377H)
      Shaykh Ḥāfiẓ al-Ḥakamī(d. 1377H)
      Shaykh Muḥammad ibn Ibrahīm Āl ash-Shaykh(d. 1389H)
      Shaikh ʿAbdullāh al-Qarʿāwī (d. 1389H)
      Shaykh Muḥammad al-Amīn al-Shanqītī(d. 1393H)
      Shaykh Muḥammad Khalīl al-Harrās(d. 1395H)
      ShaykhʿAbdullāh bin Ḥumaid(d. 1402H)
      Shaykh Muḥammad Taqī ad-Dīn al-Hilālī al-Maghribī(d. 1407H)
      Shaykh 'Abdur-Razzaaq al-'Afeefee(d.1415H)
      Shaykh Badīʿ ad-Dīn Shāh as-Sindī(d. 1416H)
      Shaykh Muḥammad Amān al-Jāmī(d. 1416H)
      Shaykh Ḥammād bin Muḥammad al-Ansārī(d. 1418H)
      Shaykh ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz ibn ʿAbdullāh ibn Bāz(d. 1419H)
      Shaykh ʿUmar bin Muḥammad al-Fallātah(d. 1419H)
      Shaykh Muḥammad Nāṣir ad-Dīn al-Albānī(d. 1420H)
      Shaykh Muḥammad ibn Ṣāliḥ al-ʿUthaymīn(d. 1421H)
      Shaykh Muqbil ibn Hādī al-Wādiʿī(d. 1422H)
      Shaykh ʿAbdullāh Bassām(d. 1423H)
      Shaykh ʿAbd as-Salām Burjiss(d. 1425H)
      Shaykh Ṣafī ar-Raḥmān al-Mubārakfurī(d. 1427H)
      Shaykh Aḥmad ibn Yaḥyá al-Najmī(d. 1429H)
      Shaykh Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhāb al-Banná(d. 1430H)
      Shaykh ʿAbdullāh Al-Ghudayān(d. 1431H)
      Shaykh ʿAbdullāh ʿAqīl(d. 1433H)
      Shaykh Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhāb al-Waṣṣābī(d. 1436H)
      Shaykh Zayd Al-Madkhalī(d. 1436H)
      Shaykh Yāsīn al-ʿAdanī(d. 1439H)
      May allah have mercy on them all
      Alive:
      Shaykh ʿAbd al-Muḥsin al-ʿAbbād
      Shaykh ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz ibn ʿAbdullāh Āl ash-
      Shaykh ʿAbdullāh al-Bukhārī
      Shaykh Abdul Razzaq Al Badr
      Shaykh ʿAlī bin Ḥusain al-Ḥudhaifī
      Shaykh ʿAlī Nāṣir al-Faqīhī
      Shaykh Ḥasan ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhāb al-Banná
      Shaykh Muḥammad bin Ādam Al-Ethyūbī
      Shaykh Muḥammad Ghālib al-‘Umarī
      Shaykh Muhammad Raslaan
      Dr Murtaza Ibn Baksh, for Urdu and Hindi speakers, and there are many more you can take knowledge from.
      Shaykh Rabīʿ ibn Hādī al-Madkhalī
      Shaykh Ṣāliḥ Āl ash-Shaykh
      Shaykh Ṣāliḥ Al-Fawzān
      Shaykh Ṣāliḥ Al-Luḥaydān
      Shaykh Salih Al Suhaymee
      Shaykh Sālim Bāmiḥriz
      Shaykh Sulayman Ar Ruhayli
      Shaykh ʿUbayd ibn ʿAbdullāh al-Jābirī
      Shaykh Wasiullah Abbas
      May allah preserve them
      Many others as well, scholars of the sunnah upon the way of the early Muslims (the salaf) and any they mention.
      Go onto salafitalk.net and you will find many more.
      You can find their audios on TH-cam (be careful on TH-cam as some people on there do not call to the true Islam but they call to ways that appear to be Islam but are not)
      And these are names of English speaking people of knowledge:
      Passed Away:
      Abu Uwais Abdullah(d. 1425H)Rahimahullah
      Dr Saleh as saleh(d. 1429H)rahimahullah
      Abu Talha Dawood Burbank1432H rahimahullah
      Abū ʿUmar Farūq(d. 1438H) Rahimahullah
      May allah have mercy on them
      Alive:
      ʿAbbās Abū Yaḥyá
      Abd al-Hakîm Mitchell
      Abdulilāh Lahmāmī
      Abu Abdillah Noorudeen
      Abū Ādam Jamīl Finch
      Abū 'Aisha Shamsūdīn (Shamsi)
      Abū al-Ḥasan Mālik Ādam
      Abū Afnān Muhammad Abdullāh
      Abu Anissa Abdulhakeem
      Abu Arwa Ali
      Abu Esa Akmal
      Abu Fudayl abdur-Raqīb
      Abū Ḥafsa Kāshiff Khān
      Abū Ḥakīm Bilāl Davis
      Abū Ḥumaid Sālim
      Abū Idrīs Muḥammad Khān
      Abu Inaayah Seifaddeen
      Abū Isḥāq Nadīm.
      Abū ʿIyāḍ Amjad Rafīq
      Abū Khadījah ʿAbd al-Wāḥīd
      Abu Kenzah Jamal
      Abū Muʿādh Taqwīm Aslam
      Abū Muḥammad al-Maghribī
      Abu Rayhannah Yayha
      Abū Ṭalḥah Ṭāhir
      Abu Tasneem Mushaf
      Abū 'Ukkāshah AbdulHakīm
      Aḥmad Fatḥī
      Anwar Wright
      Ḥamzah ʿAbd ar-Razzāq
      Ḥasan al-Ṣumālī
      Muḥammad Amīn al-Jazāʾirī
      Mūsā Richardson
      Mūsā Shalim Muhammad
      Muṣṭafá George
      Rāḥa Batts
      Rashīd Barbee
      Rayaan Barker
      Sa'eed Rhana
      Ṭālib ʿAbdullāh
      Umar Quinn
      Uthmān ibn Mustafa
      Uwais aṭ-Ṭawīl
      Zubayr Abbasi
      May allah preserve them
      The above can be found on TH-cam and they have many websites as well.
      (PLEASE BEWARE OF ANY VIDEOS THAT SPEAK AGAINST THE ONES MENTIONED ABOVE; they lie AND slander the people of truth. Do not lend an ear even for a moment and ignore them. People lied against the Messenger peace be upon him, so who is anyone lesser than him. It does happen where people have tried to slander some of the above individuals but then have been exposed themselves)
      Please, for those in the west please stick to scholars and exclusively with those mentioned above and anyone who is actually with them.
      Also please use this for audios and lessons: salafisounds.com & www.learnaboutislam.co.uk
      Here's a list of TH-cam channel to subscribe to and learn from
      Albanian
      Shqiptar - th-cam.com/users/MiraathShqiplive
      Arabic:
      Miraath Arabic
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      Rasael emaratia
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      English:
      Albaseerah
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      DaarusSunnah
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      Da'waatus Salafiyyah Brisbane
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      Dus Dawah
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      Learn About Islam UK
      th-cam.com/users/LearnAboutIslamUK
      Manhaj ul-Haqq
      th-cam.com/users/user
      Markaz-Bukhāri
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      Markaz Ibn sireen
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      Markaz Muaadh Ibn Jabal
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      Markaz Sufyaan Ath-Thawree
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      Markaz us-Sunnah
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      Masjid Al-Huda Sheffield
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      Miraath publication
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      M.T Media
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      Muwahhideen Publication
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      Rasael emaratia
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      SalafiCentreUK
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      SalafiDawaLancs
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      Salafi recording
      m.th-cam.com/channels/iW4ADFCyUeWZLJnh8D797Q.html
      Sunnah Publication
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      Tawheed Rochdale
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      ThePiousOnes
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      Troid
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      Umm Uthmaan al-Majariyyah
      m.th-cam.com/users/sharhussunnah
      Russian:
      Sunnah Portal
      m.th-cam.com/channels/8hmeIFWr80OQAYC6gK8Vgw.htmlfeatured
      Turkish:
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      Urdu:
      Tawheede Khaalis
      m.th-cam.com/users/tawheedekhaalisfeatured
      Audios
      m.soundcloud.com/albaseerah |albaseerah
      www.spreaker.com/user/radio1mm| Al-Masjid Al-Awwal (1MM)
      www.learnaboutislam.co.uk | Learn about Islām - The true message of Islām
      soundcloud.com/germantown-masjid |Germantown Masjid
      www.soundcloud.com/markaz-salafi | Markaz-sal

    • @falsehoodexterminator2336
      @falsehoodexterminator2336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peakinyou Jazzak Allahu Khairan

    • @mahirlabeeb1158
      @mahirlabeeb1158 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peakinyou thanks brother, i recognizrd some of the names . can we be in contact on some other social media ?

    • @mohammedwhylie9224
      @mohammedwhylie9224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is any one willing to have a debate with CP? even Shabir Ally is scared (says he is unfit to debate the more knowledgeable CP) th-cam.com/video/FEPXLblX4lY/w-d-xo.html

  • @velanimohammad1746
    @velanimohammad1746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    So glad you guys addressed this. Some of us are ordinary people practicing Islam and learning along the way. We seek guidance from Allah and at times do turn to our learnered brothers in these platforms for more knowledge.

    • @khancan2194
      @khancan2194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ‘Ordainary’people ?
      You mean blind followers

    • @Peace-vs9yi
      @Peace-vs9yi ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm exmuslim... watch exmuslim exmuslim Apostate

    • @Muwahid999
      @Muwahid999 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Peace-vs9yiseethe

    • @ahmedmiad82
      @ahmedmiad82 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @mskorkoss
    @mskorkoss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    It's hard to judge a sheikh on clips, instead of bashing each other here, and specially someone who inspired many to embrace Islam, maybe you could have get the means to contact him and have conversations with him and understand is position. I'm not a blind follwer of ANYONE but i have been follow him since i came across Sheikh Deedat materials, and Brother Shabir never ever denied the world of the Quran. Not in my experience. May Allah have mercy on us all. Let's not bash each other online like this

    • @alyzak.8997
      @alyzak.8997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Agreed

    • @APoorSlaveoftheMostHigh
      @APoorSlaveoftheMostHigh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Āmeen. May Allāh keep us all firm on the quran and the sunnah. Brother, nobody has denied the good he has done, nor should they. And these videos should not be taken as attempts to bash people, rather to point out problematic things they are putting out there to the world to see. Personally, I have watched his full videos in which his answers to the questions wholly oppose the Quran and sunnah that our deen is based on. May Allāh bless him for his good works and make those he has helped guide to the truth a sadaqah jāriyah, and accept it from him. However, videos like this are needed and are not a personal attack, and Allāh knows best their intention so we pray that it is sincere and accepted. Rather they are and should be taken as attempts to address things somebody has said publicly and therefore should be responded to as such. If it was a private sin, I‘m sure he would have been advised privately. We must be very careful and protect ourselves and our fellow Muslims from da’ees who are (purposely or without knowledge) spreading an inaccurate depiction of Islam to the public. We pray Allāh keeps us sincere, and guided us all to the straight path, corrects our intentions, forgives our sins and protects us from his punishment, and unites us in Al Firdaus al A’lā. Āmeen.

    • @APoorSlaveoftheMostHigh
      @APoorSlaveoftheMostHigh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Also as brother Saajid has pointed out in the video, he is and has been for years, aware of problematic things which this brother has been spreading and yet this is the first time he has spoken publicly about it. Therefore in my humble opinion, it is quite unfair to say they are judging him on clips. May Allāh forgive us all

    • @APoorSlaveoftheMostHigh
      @APoorSlaveoftheMostHigh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It is also presumptuous to say they have not tried to contact him privately and are just bashing him publicly based on a few clips

    • @buribaevvolk6247
      @buribaevvolk6247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Did you watch the video, where he was interviewed, he is clearly opposing to the quran and sunnah. Brother Sajeed is not bashing him here, it is every muslim’s responsibility to do NAHI MUNKAR, if some brothers in islam do or say something wrong. that is what brother Sajeed is trying to do, in my opinion. May Allah guide us and brother Shaber, to the straight path

  • @Alqahqah
    @Alqahqah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    plz make duah for me, I have lost my phone today and it have lot of important stuff inside it. May Allah reward you

    • @g7k993
      @g7k993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There me a duaa for that. Search for it

    • @abdulrahmanalemi9427
      @abdulrahmanalemi9427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Go pray 2 rakkah, this reminded me of the story of imam Malik

    • @syedzoheab209
      @syedzoheab209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In Sha Allah akhi...u will get ur phone back may Allah azzawajal make it easy for you

    • @bhatsahil9267
      @bhatsahil9267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh so sad Allah helps u

    • @syedzoheab209
      @syedzoheab209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bhatsahil9267 Allah Azzawajal helps everyone ya akhi...he's Ar Rehmaan the most merciful

  • @ashbrauw
    @ashbrauw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +448

    Brothers, you should invite Shabir instead of talking about him in his absence

    • @duncan3998
      @duncan3998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Indeed. I knew that guy on the right was up to no good as well as being sinful gossiping about others. Especially when it comes to a Sheikh.

    • @mistymohammad
      @mistymohammad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@duncan3998 It’s not gossiping about others, if someone publicly sins or misguided people then it’s up to the people of knowledge to publicly warn against him. It’s also obvious from the video that this guy isn’t a shaykh cause of his rejection of well known rules derived from the Qur’aan and authentic Sunnah, some of this is straight heresy.

    • @duncan3998
      @duncan3998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@mistymohammad Regardless, still isn't relevant to do so. Especially coming from a layman. Full stop.

    • @mistymohammad
      @mistymohammad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@duncan3998 No. 1: How is it not relevant to do so? Should we leave people to be misguided and think that Hudud aren’t part of the religion anymore? To let them deviate from the straight path? To let them change Islam?
      No.2: these people aren’t laymen they are students of knowledge. With Saajid having studied in Madinah and Farid I believe studied hadith amongst other things.
      No.3: The scholars say it is wajib to warn against people who contradict the sharoah and create deviations.
      Shaykh Abdul-Azeez ibn Abdullaah ibn Baaz said:
      Question: Is it permissible to mention peoples names and characters when one wants to criticise them and their thinking?
      Answer: If someone writes something that contradicts the pure Sharee’ah, and distributes that material, or if he promulgates that view in the media, it becomes compulsory to refute him and expose the falsehood of what he says. There is nothing wrong in mentioning that person’s name or in warning people about him if he calls to innovation, Shirk, or if he calls to what Allaah has prohibited or to disobedience. Until this day, there are knowledgeable and believing people from the callers to the truth and bearers of the Sharee’ah fulfilling this obligation, sincerely for Allaah Almighty and for the benefit of His servants, rebuking the wrong, inviting to the truth, warning others against those who propagate falsehood and destructive rhetoric.
      Fatawa Islamiyah/Islamic Verdicts [Volume 8], (Darussalam Publishers: 2002), p.53
      Private sins are to be advised in private, when someone is spreading fitnah like this in public it is wajib to call it out in public

    • @whatdoyoumean1974
      @whatdoyoumean1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@duncan3998 thank you sheikh

  • @somalikanye8642
    @somalikanye8642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    May Allah protect us from misguidance

    • @Truth_Seeker1
      @Truth_Seeker1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually no he isn’t. The practice of hand cutting was practised before Islam just because he doesn’t believe it’s applicable in 2021 doesn’t mean he is wrong.

    • @otakugamer1438
      @otakugamer1438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Truth_Seeker1 it 100% does

    • @Truth_Seeker1
      @Truth_Seeker1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otakugamer1438 No if doesn’t. Also there’s Hadith that you against the Quran.

    • @Truth_Seeker1
      @Truth_Seeker1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also there’s Hadith which go against the Quran so he is 100% right. The punishment given in the Quran for sex is lashes. The Hadith goes against the Quran. He is 100 right to say that Hadith is incorrect and I agree.

    • @Truth_Seeker1
      @Truth_Seeker1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@muhammadibnmuhammad6294 Dr Ally isn’t misguiding anyone. He just tells the truth. He doesn’t agree every Hadith is authentic. I’ll give you one that eating dates will cure you from poison. Even Muslim Drs have said this isn’t true.

  • @shukrmessage7640
    @shukrmessage7640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    What's interesting is that the people ranting and raving over "barbaric" Islamic hudud punishments are the same people who don't care or consider how severe Hell is. We believe in something that is more "barbaric" or harsh but is necessary because Allah ordained which is Hell. Allah has perfect wisdom.

    • @rijadhadzic3396
      @rijadhadzic3396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Or maybe, if you don't agree with Islam, hudud, etc... maybe, just maybe, since Islam does not restrict you from traveling, you can GTFO out of a Muslim country and live in a place you agree with?

    • @pamuk7
      @pamuk7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rijadhadzic3396
      LoL

    • @ophelian4646
      @ophelian4646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amir.k.maqboolabdulmumeet9258 So you don't live in a western country then? Which wonderful Islamic country do you dwell in then?

    • @sykesyke5786
      @sykesyke5786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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      @sykesyke5786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @slaveofthemostmerciful7855
    @slaveofthemostmerciful7855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I was literally looking for a refutation on this guy the other week after hearing the madness he was saying and to my shock there was non.....alhamdullilah this video came out

    • @abdulibnabdul1666
      @abdulibnabdul1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jahil Shabir is Mutazila it seems who say Qur'an isn't self contextual, when Quran 5 :3 says its complete. each of them cut & paste and make up lies & it just divides & opens tyranny. its why jahil sufis & shia divide, linked to exaggerating imams linked to shirk is linked to colonies in hadiths which is rampant with them! he is just divisive in name of inferiority complex cultism...

    • @abdulibnabdul1666
      @abdulibnabdul1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      feminism is neo patriarchy swtich from plantation to debt slavery, move women from farms to working for judeo banks, democrats to control minority growth & many feminists were pro lynching etc. 0th wave feminists were also pro colonies, 2nd anti family pro lewd and 3rd anti freedom of speech, they're marxists.

    • @RandomFunnesss
      @RandomFunnesss ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abdulibnabdul1666 how is he though?, he made actual statements like an intellect, no sign of his emotions a bias or anything getting in his way to powder a agenda, you have more stuff on the other side, a much more regressive muslim, who when their hear islam or muslims being mocked need to show their islamic ways, with, violence or with knifes and vulgar language. Like somehow all mighty creator needs that pathetic defense. Progression happens its life. Labeling this guy as this and that is cool but in real life hes helped thousands of ppl whilst you have helped none.

  • @data_analyst7944
    @data_analyst7944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Assalamualaikum please pray for Uighurs and Vietnam Muslims.

  • @ebumuhammedalbani2818
    @ebumuhammedalbani2818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “I have left you with two matters which will never lead you astray, as long as you hold to them: the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of his Prophet.”

  • @thearshadmahmud
    @thearshadmahmud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Initially, I would avoid these videos. I felt that I don't need to know the bad of these scholars but then... after founding out a crucial mistake (this is in regards to basic Islamic beliefs that is not questioned at all) that a popular scholar made a year ago, I was dumbfounded. Then I remembered the hadith of the Prophet (PBUH) warning us about the deviant scholars. Now, I believe it is my duty to know these scholars that I am learning from, especially their aqeedah. Thank you for doing these videos, it would be much more difficult for me to find out otherwise. May Allah bless you immensely in this world and the hereafter for this good you have done.

    • @elkapitan75
      @elkapitan75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@FlorimDemiri Not commenting on Shabir Ally but there are problems with your statement.
      1. Most of the Hadith are unreliable - so how did you learn to pray? Or take wudu if not for the Hadith?
      2. If something was mentioned in the Quran, we can do it differently. - Isn't this the definition of bidaah?
      Think carefully when you say these things because it might be used against you on Judgement day. May Allah guide us.

    • @mirowestmaas4566
      @mirowestmaas4566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      How does one know who is deviant or not? To me Saajid is deviant. But I dont claim I know for sure. Only Allah has the ultimate judgement.

    • @took_err_jerbs1568
      @took_err_jerbs1568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What specifically do you disagree with?

    • @ibraheemmtenje7082
      @ibraheemmtenje7082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      May Allah guide you and grant you goodness in this life and the next.

    • @bigeasy1383
      @bigeasy1383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      why so many dislikes it is very informative and who said this one is a scholar if some one say that hudods is not applicable today then he would left islam unless he is talked out of ignorance no mater what he looked like and miro study ur religion

  • @fazlerabbi5208
    @fazlerabbi5208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I don’t care what mr. Ally says. We still have The Quran and Hadith with us. May Allah protect us. May Allah unite this ummah.

    • @shafiullahnoory2268
      @shafiullahnoory2268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@QnA513
      Awkward joke

    • @balibhai420
      @balibhai420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are then a typical wahabi

    • @kimasailo6629
      @kimasailo6629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Islam, with it's pagan warlord Mohammed has been exposed and crumbling

    • @fazlerabbi5208
      @fazlerabbi5208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kimasailo6629 Say to those who disbelieve, "You will be overcome and gathered together to Hell, and wretched is the resting place." Ali Imran (3:12)

    • @khancan2194
      @khancan2194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep the Quran
      Bin the Hadith

  • @fairnesspaul2594
    @fairnesspaul2594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    In life, one of the easiest things to do is finding faults on others,

    • @ibn_karim
      @ibn_karim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Being emotional and sprouting out these quotes won't help you ikhwan. Minor mistakes and Major deviance aren't the same. Learn before you speak. Islam isn't something where you just make it to be whatever you want it to be by rejecting what the Prophet (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) and the best 3 generations taught. This is not the way

    • @ibn_karim
      @ibn_karim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Here's something from an actual scholar:
      We have found that many of the Salafis follow al-ashkhāṣ (ie: personalities) and not al-ḥaq (ie: the truth).
      « وجدنا كثيرًا من السلفيين يدور حول الأشخاص لا يدور حول الحق،
      This is a serious disease.
      هذا مرض خطير،
      We must be cautious not to follow personalities!
      إيّانا أن ندور مع الأشخاص.
      It is obligatory upon us to weigh personalities by way of the truth,
      فيجب أن نَزِنَ الأشخاص بالحق،
      And that we do not weigh the truth by way of personalities,
      لا نزن الحق بالأشخاص،
      And that we know al-rijāl (ie: the men) by way of the truth,
      وأن نعرف الرجال بالحق،
      And not that we know the truth by way of men."
      لا نعرف الحق بالرجال ».
      [Munādharah (ie: discussion) regarding the circumstances in al-Afġānistān - First Tape]
      [مناظرة حول الأوضاع في أفغانستان - الشريط الأول]
      Rabīʿ b. Hādī al-Madkhalī / ربيع بن هادي المدخلي

    • @redfalconvfx7050
      @redfalconvfx7050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it is not finding faults bro... it is say the truth over false. clearly Shabir is rejecting what is in Quran. and with out Quran what Islam do we have

    • @saniatamanna7763
      @saniatamanna7763 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True.

    • @saniatamanna7763
      @saniatamanna7763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fairness Paul,you are right. It's very easy to judge others. But it's difficult to find faults of oneself. This people are so much judgemental

  • @omarsallah481
    @omarsallah481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    May the Almighty ALLAH guide every Muslim to the right path. May the Almighty ALLAH guide the non Muslims to right path.

    • @abdebnadam6237
      @abdebnadam6237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      jahil Shabir is Mutazila it seems who say Qur'an isn't self contextual, when Quran 5 :3 says its complete. each of them cut & paste and make up lies & it just divides & opens tyranny. its why jahil sufis & shia divide, linked to exaggerating imams linked to shirk is linked to colonies in hadiths which is rampant with them! he is just divisive in name of inferiority complex cultism...

    • @abdebnadam6237
      @abdebnadam6237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      feminism is neo patriarchy swtich from plantation to debt slavery, move women from farms to working for judeo banks, democrats to control minority growth & many feminists were pro lynching etc. 0th wave feminists were also pro colonies, 2nd anti family pro lewd and 3rd anti freedom of speech, they're marxists.

  • @shantiii
    @shantiii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The moment I heard Farid judging Shabirs look I closed the video....

    • @Adam__Samara
      @Adam__Samara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He wasnt criticizing his look he was saying that his look doesnt match his views.

    • @TheSuckaFree1
      @TheSuckaFree1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then you don't have powers of deduction

    • @khancan2194
      @khancan2194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What do you mean his look doesn’t match his views ?!!!
      So being GOD fearing and pious means growing facial hear!
      What planet r u people on

    • @Isbatooraha
      @Isbatooraha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thehourglassfan3515 he's a modernist

    • @zehravesile
      @zehravesile 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@khancan2194 u are only partially correct bro as who wants to grow a long beard n prefer or choose not to wear western outfits???muslims who wana follow prophet muhammad pbuh grow a beard n not bcoz dey like to....most of em do it outa obedience to our prophet.....

  • @HilyahAsSalaf
    @HilyahAsSalaf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Incoming "Judging is only for Allah, don't talk bad about him he's done so much good" comments

    • @MohammedAlSharif2002
      @MohammedAlSharif2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lol

    • @ukasxm8245
      @ukasxm8245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Astagirullah, Judging is only for Allah, don't talk bad about him he's done so much good

    • @Ziloers
      @Ziloers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah, looking at the comments, and the latest reply, people go on saying stuff without any prior knowledge to distinguish between calling out on falsehood and judging. Brother Saajid and Farid here are only showing people that he's not following the sunnah, rather he's voicing his opinion.

    • @Veritas-dq2hs
      @Veritas-dq2hs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Well, I'll say this: He's done great in so many debates, and he is of excellent moral character. He is a major reason I started to turn to Islam. However, it is a bit troubling that he has taken the liberals' stance on many topics.

    • @pamuk7
      @pamuk7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      According to that logic. Then we shouldn't be judging ISIS as a Terrorist organisation. Only Allah can judge?
      😂

  • @skitzwaz7019
    @skitzwaz7019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love both of these Brothers dearly.
    May Allah bless you both and elevate you in this world and the next Ikhwani.

  • @mariem2599
    @mariem2599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Brolher Sajid We would like to see you more, for example, on direct with the brothers from the IfDawah channel, or directly on your channel, to have a more conversation with you.god bless you all for your mighty efforts Islam is lhe way💎

  • @davidleary1372
    @davidleary1372 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sadly all you have achieved with this video is a display of your ignorance about Islam. If anyone is pretending to be something they are not, it is you. The knowledge of the Quran is much more nuanced than the childish manner in which you have displaced your ignorance. With all due respect, you are dangerous to the Ummah, and no one should be listening to your unqualified views. The Sheikh is fallible and human, but this video is entirely misguided. I pray you to seek forgiveness, and may Allah guide you. Truly, jealousy is a great sin in Islam; check yourself, brother, and even if your intentions are as noble as you claim, then may Allah increase your knowledge. This type of slander and cherry-picking in a charlatan manner has no place in Islamic discourse. There is only space for proper and respective dialogue and inquiry. Please fix this, reach out to him, write to him whatever you do, take this video down; otherwise, you risk poisoning yourself from the proceeds of a conscious or unconscious malicious act. May Allah guide us aright.

    • @raeesdean6908
      @raeesdean6908 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I understand no one wants division, but Shabir Allay is undoubtedly sharing views that are deviant and not supported by the orthodox majority scholarly opinion, with some views that may even be approaching Kufr (like saying Allah’s set punishment aren’t relevant anymore) The big problem is he presents himself as orthodox and doesn’t have a disclaimer saying that he’s not a traditional Muslim. I have been misguided from him previously and this slow creeping secularisation of our rulings, despite it seeming harsh of Lipham’s and Farid’s part, are necessary to prevent our religion from being changed and distorted from different ideologies. If you want an example of what happens when a religion doesn’t stand together against this deviance, look at Christianities secularization

    • @dudikostdudikost230
      @dudikostdudikost230 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@raeesdean6908I agree w/u

  • @ShirkFreeKashmir
    @ShirkFreeKashmir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Abu Dhar said, “I was with the Prophet (ﷺ) one day and I heard him saing: “There is something I fear for my Ummah than the Dajjal.” It was then that I became afraid, so I said: “ Oh Rasool Allah! Which thing is that?” He (ﷺ) said; “Misguided and astray scholars.” Recorded in Musnad Imam Ahmad

    • @albertohysham4030
      @albertohysham4030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reference number ?

    • @user-lo9si5dx8t
      @user-lo9si5dx8t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Are you implying that Brother Shabir Ally is misguided? based on what? I can see this turning into a witch hunt, and people slander other Muslims unaware of the damage they are doing, to the individual, to the Ummah and to Islam in general, it is shocking how some people place themselves in the pedestal and lecture others on what is Islam.
      You think you know better, challenge him to a debate, call him and show him his errors instead of slandering him, with these social media smear tactics. people would go to any length to win subscribers, even if it means tarnishing a brother's reputation, with these relentless and mean character assassination campaigns.
      I am not talking about you just as an individual, I am talking in general.
      All of the points they've raised are easily debunked and refuted, but this salafi cult is the most dangerous one.

    • @Anass_L
      @Anass_L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@user-lo9si5dx8t OFc hes misguided. How are you defending him when he clearly said that stoning isnt part of the shariah. Going against the Qur'an, theres no need to debate this person, a little child will refute him!

    • @aBBB321
      @aBBB321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@user-lo9si5dx8t did you not watch the video? Our deen is qala Allah wa qala al rasul ﷺ. Shabir is talking out of his own lust. The proof is clear.

    • @user-lo9si5dx8t
      @user-lo9si5dx8t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aBBB321 There is no proof
      You go ahead and believe this nonsense, so Muhammad sws will contredict Allah and the qu'ran? This is what sects do.

  • @nabilsalim7463
    @nabilsalim7463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Brothers, invite him and have a discussion with the mission of both studying, it would be better than talking and discussing statements that he cannot explain.

    • @amirghiti
      @amirghiti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I dislike this kind of talks when they base their conclusion on a 1 minute soundbite and ignore the rest of the discussion. Shabir has clarified his thought process, how he approached this scenario, provided opinions by other scholars and explained that the quran is quite clear on the penalty of adultery. Only if the Quran is unclear that we look to the hadith for context and clarity.
      Compiling a list of "problematic" statements and deriving the conclusion without delving deeper into the topic or discussion is a missed opportunity to gain understanding.

    • @nadantwin1153
      @nadantwin1153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      talking behind someone without their presence to defends themselves

    • @darmawan88
      @darmawan88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please be open mind, Syeikh Shabir Ally is really really good scholars, humble man, hanif, and for sure very educated and knowledgeable, I proud we have such scholars

    • @bf6724
      @bf6724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@darmawan88 Either you do not know Shabir Ally or you do not know the religion of Islam.

    • @darmawan88
      @darmawan88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bf6724 might you are the most knowing this religion, and I only knew little, I follow the shabir ally dawah, from my point of view Shabir is humble person, and I totally agree with him regarding his statement if some of hadith in Imam Muslim and Imam Bukhari are not authentic, and it's can be proof by the kitab itself because of contradiction, I also salafism dawah I also agree in many parts of salafism

  • @qm6595
    @qm6595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Whenever you hear a speaker talking about Islam and they consistently mention "I feel", "I think", "In my opinion" it is best to abandon those individuals. This religion is not based on your view, in no way shape or form do these individuals possess a position of giving rulings. Not just rulings rather they are completely going against the Sharia for the sake of conformity to western standards.
    Until when will Muslims have this idea that the west have a better standard of morality and law than Islam? Wallahi, it is sad to see Muslims knowingly or unknowingly fall into these trap of an inferiority complex and lack of conviction on the Law of Allah. It just goes on to show the importance of education in Islamic fields firstly before attaining any other type of education.

    • @ThatOneMohamed
      @ThatOneMohamed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thiss!! ^^^ Mashallah

    • @stevefals2818
      @stevefals2818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ijtihad ulamas to decide something so that it becomes a fatwa it all comes from "Think,opinion and view" Islam does not forbid you to think even though the true truth belongs only to Allah

    • @qm6595
      @qm6595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stevefals2818
      You have really failed to understand the concept of Ijithaad, it is deductive reasoning, based on Quran and Sunnah, where are the evidences presented by these speaker’s to support their heretical claims?

    • @stevefals2818
      @stevefals2818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@qm6595 What if the linguistic and analogous aspects do not cover the new case being asked? An example syariah law to use "Facebook" or others social media. Which cannot be done by use "Qiyas" and "al-istidlal bil qawa'id al-lughawiyah" ?. So what should the scholars ulamas do? With the Qur'an and Hadith ? Even if you search until you are bald there is no word 'facebook' الفيسبوك in the Qur'an and Hadith, and there have been no similar cases in ancient times to do qiyas.
      In this point where the ulamas answered by doing ijtihad , which is based on the concept of benefit ( Maslahat ). Weighing which is the greater benefit ( Maslahat ) or harm ( Mudarat )

    • @qm6595
      @qm6595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stevefals2818 Exactly, these scholars based their verdicts based upon the literature that already exists and they use that as a method through which they derive verdicts. Those verdicts can not be accepted if they go against the Sharia or violates principles of Islam.
      The speaker in video is not qualified to issue any verdicts, these subjects are not even his forte, now a days many people are given the titles of mufti shaykul Hadith this and that yet they are not fit for those titles.
      My point is what you mentioned is still
      Based upon deductive reasoning rooted in the religion, it must not violate the principles of the religion, these are some pre-requisites for such rulings. Let’s consider your example: some scholars may declare using FB to be completely haram - since it can open up a gateway for fitan and maasiah, there is an ASL for this it is not merely an opinion. Others may consider its usage permissible to some extent: for spreading Islam, dawah purpose, and consider other elements of it haram, again this has origin in the religion.
      Whereas, this individual in the video, declares that we do not need hadd we do not need the Sharia, sees the permissibility of democracy, firstly this individual does not have the qualifications to issue such verdicts secondly even if he did have the qualifications this is contradicting the religion. Clearly, this is not the same as the previously mentioned case.
      Nonetheless, you may have misunderstood me, I am not saying that every laymen should rely upon themselves to derive rulings from Quran and Sunnah (Sunnah being a vast concept of the actions, sayings of the Prophet and even stretches to the understanding of the Sahabah), rather what I am saying follow that which has evidence from these two sources, of course from the real scholars, every ruling has basis within these two main legislative sources, the other elements of legislative sources are derived from these two. Hopefully, that clarifies.

  • @thruefact
    @thruefact 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    We need to call them out. So many people are going to be misguided because of those wrong answers

    • @ibnamanot
      @ibnamanot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You'd be surprised by the numbers, it is WAY more than we think. Allah help us and protect us all.

    • @ibnamanot
      @ibnamanot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Sam Fisher no, we have to keep on trying and giving dawah to the truth because we don’t know who will be guided back and left misguided.

    • @ibnamanot
      @ibnamanot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@michaal105 You should be the last one to tell anyone anything. Your whole scripture is corrupted.

    • @thomashardy7961
      @thomashardy7961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ibnamanot Not just corrupted, but manmade and not even written or recorded by Jesus. It was written 300 years after Jesus by anonymous authors. Heck, they can't even prove Jesus existed.
      According to Jehovas Witnesses, the current Bible has over 50,000 errors.

    • @ibnamanot
      @ibnamanot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaal105 th-cam.com/video/q0WSzqnJzRo/w-d-xo.html

  • @omeralmani9755
    @omeralmani9755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Akhi, Please speak to Shabbir Ally personally before going against his views. Commenting like this will surely disunite Ummah. I believe this is not what you aim.

  • @bilals1279
    @bilals1279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) reminded us in the hadith of musnad ahmed that:
    Abu Dhar said, "I was with the Prophet (SAW) one day and I heard him saying: "There is something I fear for my Ummah than the Dajjal." It was then that I became afraid, so I said: "Oh Rasool Allah! Which thing is that?" He (SAW) said; "Misguided and astray scholars."
    [Musnad Ahmad (5/145) No. 21334 and 21335]

    • @abdulibnabdul1666
      @abdulibnabdul1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      feminism is neo patriarchy swtich from plantation to debt slavery, move women from farms to working for judeo banks, democrats to control minority growth & many feminists were pro lynching etc. 0th wave feminists were also pro colonies, 2nd anti family pro lewd and 3rd anti freedom of speech, they're marxists.

    • @abdulibnabdul1666
      @abdulibnabdul1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jahil Shabir is Mutazila it seems who say Qur'an isn't self contextual, when Quran 5 :3 says its complete. each of them cut & paste and make up lies & it just divides & opens tyranny. its why jahil sufis & shia divide, linked to exaggerating imams linked to shirk is linked to colonies in hadiths which is rampant with them! he is just divisive in name of inferiority complex cultism...

  • @arafmahmud5362
    @arafmahmud5362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Really shocking !
    Didn't expect it. Even a Muslim with
    Fundamental knowledge of quran and Sunna can judge him !

    • @sykesyke5786
      @sykesyke5786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/XiuUwBWhw2w/w-d-xo.html

    • @joenathan7211
      @joenathan7211 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😢😢😢 subhanallah, today I watch video from the Deen TV about music, that's pretty nice video masha Allah. And I got curious about the "ulama" who admit music is not haram. So I tried to find info, and I found Dr. Shabir Ally video, may Allah forgive me if I am wrong, but his explanation seemed that music is permisible, not haram, that he said there is not any verses in the quran speak about it, and about the hadith bukhari as generally info we know music is haram, but he said the grade of the hadith is daif.
      I was so shoked to know that. It gave me chills, we don't mean to disrespecfully judge anyone, especially someone who is consider as scholar, but if what he say is opposing with quran and sunnah. We should save ourselves from that doubtful and subhat.
      Not to mention other video about LGBT, shaking hand witg opposite gender, riba, etc.
      May Allah forgive me if I am wrong, May Allah guide all of us and him

  • @Mayor_Imad
    @Mayor_Imad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Very great video brothers, but i have a question: has any of you guys tried to contact him at least? or what about inviting him on a podcast?
    because I think such issues needs to be settled face to face (or online) for Shabir to understand the danger of this, thank you Saajid for taking the time and reading this comment.

    • @fazeelalaher6250
      @fazeelalaher6250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed

    • @Anass_L
      @Anass_L 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      This is not backbiting! This is called 'baiting out' an untrustworthy and a liar! May Allah be pleased with these two brothers who are showing everyone how Shabbir Ally has diverted from the Qur'an and the Sunnah.

    • @alyzak.8997
      @alyzak.8997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Totally. Dr. Shabbir is very open to conversations as well. He would've definitely agreed.

    • @muqtadiri.9990
      @muqtadiri.9990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not quite, what these brothers are doing is exposing his falsehood to the public so that we know and understand why this deviant should be avoided.

    • @mohammedwhylie9224
      @mohammedwhylie9224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is any one willing to have a debate with CP? even Shabir Ally is scared (says he is unfit to debate the more knowledgeable CP) th-cam.com/video/FEPXLblX4lY/w-d-xo.html

  • @nuradindolovac5896
    @nuradindolovac5896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    PLEASE ANSWER. When it comes to stoning, dosen't the shariah (The Quran is dominant over the Hadith) states that we should be using whipping? And the Hadiths that mention stoning, wouldn't the understanding be that they either 1) Stoned because we didnt have the law of whipping until 17months after Hijrah, so we had to follow the laws and regulations according to the Torah (we got our own laws of fasting Ramadan, punishment of zina etc after hijrah) and only when we got our own laws were we then obliged to follow it. (IE now whipping and not stoning anymore)
    Or, 2) If the Hadith Contradicts the Quran ( ex: That Umar is worried that we will remove stoning, but Quran dosen't support that statement) shouldn't we leave the hadith and hold on to the Quran?
    I mean, doesn't some of Shabir Ally's views make sence?
    How can you make him appear like an evil person? Fear Allah, honestly.

    • @greengalaxy8873
      @greengalaxy8873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Caliph Uthman had suspended this specific punishment during the time of famine. If Islam is universal across time, space, and contexts then there cannot be any suspension. The only defense is that the substance (the moral ethos) rather than the surface (specific law) is the crux of Quranic commandments. Such an argument has already been made by several people, including Dr. Ismail Faruqui.
      Before rejecting Shabir Ally altogether, please take some time to read the following article:
      TOWARDS A NEW METHODOLOGY FOR QUR'ĀNIC EXEGESIS by ISMĀ'ĪL RĀGĪ AL-FĀRŪQĪ
      Islamic Studies, Vol. 1, No. 1 (MARCH 1962), pp. 35-52 (18 pages)
      The article can be found on the net.
      May Allah be pleased with Shabir Ally and his efforts. Ignore these two idiots.

  • @adanlakia7729
    @adanlakia7729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These two are fools of the ummah.

  • @Tislyfe
    @Tislyfe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Brother Saajid, ur compassion to Islam is inspiring and I’m so happy Allah has given me someone who feels like I do... but insha’Allah CAN do something about it! Alhamdolilah may Allah protect u all, bless u with Iman, keep u humble and accept all that u do.

  • @amalhassan7383
    @amalhassan7383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you so much for putting things into perspective

  • @moneyflash911
    @moneyflash911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Look at what MBS is doing.. in Saudi Arabia @saajidLipham

    • @alhomsiyyah
      @alhomsiyyah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let's focus on refuting those who are ruining our akhirah. It's not for Ahlul Sunnah to obsess with the sins of the rulers.

  • @shahmohammadabdulhadi3646
    @shahmohammadabdulhadi3646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jajakumullah khairan brothers . Much needed reminder . May Allah guide you and us.

  • @mostaq9779
    @mostaq9779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I had so much respect for Shabir Alley but like brother Lipham said stick to what you are good at like teaching comparative studies.

    • @shahebmiah2492
      @shahebmiah2492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hamza00011 what are the backup for the claims?

  • @wasbtf
    @wasbtf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Jazakallah for making this video. You have no idea how much it angered the first time I saw the video of Shabir Ali rejecting the existence of black magic. With the Grace of Allah, I turned my life around and started to practice Islam again because I was inflicted by black magic.
    May Allah continue to guide us and keep our hearts firm on the true path.

    • @dipgass1213
      @dipgass1213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh yes, we MUST follow the sunnah because the prophet was severely inflicted by Black Magic. my only fear is, i don't want to die by food poisining

    • @flegis123
      @flegis123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dipgass1213 yeah true, you can't lie. Of course. That's why we learn Ruqyah and ate Ajwa'. Means, Prophet Muhammad was still safe, healing and also he didn't die because of food poisoning, for 3 years. AlQuran and Hadith is also perfect after 23 years and so many sahabah memorize with good methods and methodology. You know, many situation and story did happen after that...you need to understand the concepts behind the contexts also. Means understand the manhaj (methods & methodology). 😊

    • @flegis123
      @flegis123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dipgass1213 how about 3 times Ramadhan? You forgot to mention about that. 😊

    • @dipgass1213
      @dipgass1213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flegis123 i have no clue what are you talking abou,,,sems odd to analys concepts behind the context

    • @dipgass1213
      @dipgass1213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flegis123 you better read your books with open mind, 3 or 100 years would not make a single difference since Mohamad used to complain to his numerous wives that he felf the pain caused by the food where the jewish woman gave it to him...it doesnt matter how long it takes and you should understand the effects of black magic as it was intended to cause the pain in a very long time, in this case it took 3 years of sufferings.

  • @oris247
    @oris247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the problem with such Islamic 'experts' - you have to agree with them or you are one of the 'other.' No grey areas, no nuanced debate, no sophistication, no allowance. In the end this leads to dead ends. Worse, the comments about how he looks like a traditional Muslim as if he was the opposite. Disappointing and eye opening behaviour. I like how the Dr comes across as educated and can apply the basic and true principles of Islam to what is a hugely different, modern world. Do these guys ride camels if they are so true?

    • @saral9817
      @saral9817 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Islam allows difference of opinion but what shabir Ally was saying was not some ikhtilaafi matter. What he was saying literally goes against the Quran

  • @MrArmeg
    @MrArmeg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I used to watch all of Shabir Ally debate and used to like the way he debating Christians with his humble personality. He quite good in his field but some of his views about Islam is totally wrong like our brothers said.. Hope he watch this video and change his views.. May Allah guide him.Salam from Malaysia.

    • @fazeelalaher6250
      @fazeelalaher6250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too
      I liked his debate with Christians
      I never heard the islamic Islamic talks
      But I'm shocked
      Its scary to think if we don't really know our true islam then we going to be losers in the time of dajjaal
      We lay ppl expect them to be talking the truth
      Yasir qadhi also
      What about sheikh Uthman from One Message Foundation?
      His dawah with the non believers n the patience n humility he shows is great.
      Hope hes not misguided

    • @MrArmeg
      @MrArmeg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fazeelalaher6250 sheikh uthman got degree in islamic study and hadith too. U can watch his teaching in MasjidRibat channel..

    • @bf6724
      @bf6724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fazeelalaher6250 Sheikh Othman is not like them, he has a correct Aqida.

    • @cesareomartinez6582
      @cesareomartinez6582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello my friend, with all respect you know why this happening?
      Shavir ally is one of the top defender of Islam and there is a bunch like him in the world BUT ALL OF THEM CONTRADICTS EACH OTHER THE EXAMPLE ARE THIS 2 GUYS TALKING HERE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH SHAVIR, YOU KNOW WHY? ANSWER:
      BECAUSE QURAN IS A BOOK OF CONFUSION AND IF QURAN IS A BOOK OF CONFUSION IT CAN NOT BE FROM GOD, SIMPLE LIKE THAT
      WAKE UP USE YOUR BRAIN Watch Christian Prince, David Wood, Sam Shamoun, Speaker corner and see the true OPEN YOUR MIND AND HEART AND LOOK FOR THE TRUE JESUS CHRIST

    • @bf6724
      @bf6724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cesareomartinez6582 Your way of writing "Shavir" suggests that you are a Jew, not even a Christian!

  • @BazDawah
    @BazDawah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I originally saw this on Farid Responds. And even though I'm 82% a Farid Responds supporter and 78% a Saajid Lipham supporter, I decided to come onto Ustadh Saajid's channel to like this video and comment because I appreciate what these brothers did. BaarakAllah Feekum!

    • @abdulibnabdul1666
      @abdulibnabdul1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      jahil Shabir is Mutazila it seems who say Qur'an isn't self contextual, when Quran 5 :3 says its complete. each of them cut & paste and make up lies & it just divides & opens tyranny. its why jahil sufis & shia divide, linked to exaggerating imams linked to shirk is linked to colonies in hadiths which is rampant with them! he is just divisive in name of inferiority complex cultism...

    • @abdulibnabdul1666
      @abdulibnabdul1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      feminism is neo patriarchy swtich from plantation to debt slavery, move women from farms to working for judeo banks, democrats to control minority growth & many feminists were pro lynching etc. 0th wave feminists were also pro colonies, 2nd anti family pro lewd and 3rd anti freedom of speech, they're marxists.

  • @laniakia8847
    @laniakia8847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shabbir Ali is a great scholar of Islam.

    • @ibnamanot
      @ibnamanot ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂😂😂 great joke from you.

  • @thruefact
    @thruefact 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jazaakallah khairan for pointing out that each one should stay within their expertise

  • @damirage2010
    @damirage2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love the fact that islamic laws are deterents for example no one will have his hands cut off if the rule of stealing was applied so easy to understand and ofcourse a safe environment I don't know whats hard to comprehend.Stop changing sharia because Allah knows and we don't.

    • @lameisalam9445
      @lameisalam9445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Allah knows best we don’t” what type of brainwashing is that 😂

    • @riyaansheikh7470
      @riyaansheikh7470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lameisalam9445 it's wahabi level brainwashing 😂

  • @mustafasidiqi
    @mustafasidiqi ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your knowledge is like a drop of water compared to Shabir Allay. He thinks 10 steps ahead before he says something

    • @ZzeezZ78
      @ZzeezZ78 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't attach yourself to personalities, attach to the Haq

  • @sidramehmood1
    @sidramehmood1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your words abt attaching with personality is a hidden thing in every Muslims heart . No one wanna say that but it's true .

  • @moonmounie2447
    @moonmounie2447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    From my experience, anybody who is truthfull to their deen, allah will guide them to the real people of knowledge.. may allah bless you brothers and keep doing what your doing!

  • @ahmedelhaddad2145
    @ahmedelhaddad2145 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    May Allah guide him and protect us from misguidance

    • @user-nk8hg9hi4j
      @user-nk8hg9hi4j ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This scholar is more guided than u probably

    • @ahmedelhaddad2145
      @ahmedelhaddad2145 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-nk8hg9hi4j Allah knows best

  • @MusaTheGamer
    @MusaTheGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    subhan'Allah I never expected him to say these things

    • @Peace-vs9yi
      @Peace-vs9yi ปีที่แล้ว

      watch exmuslim Apostate, friendly exmuslim

  • @aishak1199
    @aishak1199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yessss thank you. I’ve been seeing very strange things with Shabir Ally, especially the one where he mentions hell will just explode and destroy everyone in it and cause things to grow

    • @soniabegum1367
      @soniabegum1367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a new one 😂

    • @yizuss69
      @yizuss69 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where does he say this?

    • @SNKRIZE_
      @SNKRIZE_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did he say that ????

  • @juliankelley6253
    @juliankelley6253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Assolamolaykum,
    Jazak Allah khair brothers. This was something I am very happy I saw. You brothers mentioned books on hadith science and methodology. What books in English would you recommend? The issue that some of us have as Muslims is we want good authentic books, but when we want to buy them we are afraid that the book is written by someone like Shabir or Yasir. So you brothers should do a video with Sunni recommended books in English and Arabic.

    • @TheShows247
      @TheShows247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The best books for English speakers is honestly- books that teach you Arabic. There is so much knowledge not preserved in English- hadith, fatawa, commentary, etc. If you must indulge in English I would stick to the things most useful to you- aqeedah such as Kitab at Tawheed, Complilations of fatawa, etc. Otherwise if you are seeking knowledge for its own sake you'd be better off learning Arabic first and memorizing the Quran if you haven't already done so. Humble recommendation.

    • @saral9817
      @saral9817 ปีที่แล้ว

      Al madrasatu al Umariyyah on youtube teach a really good hadith poem, bayquniyyah. Defos check that out insha'Allah

    • @Peace-vs9yi
      @Peace-vs9yi ปีที่แล้ว

      watch exmuslim Apostate, friendly exmuslim

  • @berryboi1574
    @berryboi1574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Black magic is as real as it's mentioned in the Quran, come to Africa and see for yourself. Shabir Ally is more like a debater and talking on issues based on his understanding is not how Islam works. This is why we should stay away from debate preachers and follow ppl who teach pure ilm. I know he has said very shady things years ago and I am just ur ordinary muslim.
    Be mindful who u talk ur deen from. Soooo many nowadays are tryna push a watered down Islam based on their feelings and opinions.

    • @iimiboy
      @iimiboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Like yasir qadhi, mufti menk, yaqeen institute omar suleiman, Jonathan brown, Al hadad, Abu layth, nouman Ali Khan, Al kauthar and Al magrib, tahir wyatt, Ali dawah, hijab and many more oh oh hamza yusuf

    • @onecuriousguy1727
      @onecuriousguy1727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iimiboy what is it with mufti menk ?

    • @Player_Zeesh
      @Player_Zeesh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iimiboy who do you take your knowledge from ?

    • @iimiboy
      @iimiboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Player_Zeesh I follow the athari aqeedha so anyone who follows the quran and Sunnah on the understanding of the salaf

    • @Player_Zeesh
      @Player_Zeesh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iimiboy so you take knowledge from asim hakeem?

  • @husseinalhajri8018
    @husseinalhajri8018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You both can’t even make a single reference clearly to justify your gossip. Shame on you. Study your religion understand what you’re talking about then talk. If we are free from such rubbish ISIS ideology we would have spread our religion to all mankind. استغفر الله العظيم بس

    • @yusafimran8951
      @yusafimran8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shabbir ally has some strange views.

    • @papabear8253
      @papabear8253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with a lot of the points made by Saajid, but I still dislike and condemn this video. The Ummah is in a mess because of so many diverging scholarly views and the political and ego battles between different scholars and their scholarly groups. In history, scholars have waged war on other scholars including committing murder! You would think scholars would be above all that. Nope! Even today we have a bunch of scholars trying to cancel others by calling them deviants or entirely dismissing them, asking them to withdraw completely and go into oblivion. You have a problem with a Scholar/Person of Knowledge, discuss it direct with him, instead of making disparaging comments based on edited short clips. Both the brothers here on video have taken a condescending view and attitude towards Dr. SA. Have the guts, then arrange a debate and leave the public to decide, don't become Judge and Jury yourself. Who gave you the position of a ''Person of knowledge'' to dismiss someone else so rudely? Who gave you the position of ''Warners & Advisors'' to the Ummah? I really dislike self-appointed know-it-alls. Having a bunch of hadiths & tafsir books carefully placed behind the camera on a shelf does not make anyone an expert and more knowledgeable than others. The video starts of with discussing Dr. SA's credentials, yet both the brothers fail to present their own. I would advise them to work on their own shortcomings and self-development.

  • @AdS-vl9hd
    @AdS-vl9hd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You're absolutely right about following the tradions not the ahwaa (self way of understanding) but I think he's a well spoken man in the west and we should try to bring him to ahlussunna waljamaa

  • @astranger2017
    @astranger2017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    At one point in the video i felt brother Saajid about to cry. SUBHANALLAH the situation is so angering and pitiful :(

    • @faizalkarim601
      @faizalkarim601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Is no closer dr Shabir when comes to dawa,Shabir dose a tremendous job bringing non Muslims to Islam

  • @abueesa1905
    @abueesa1905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Anas ibn Malik reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever has three traits is a hypocrite, even if he fasts, prays, goes to Hajj and Umrah, and claims to be a Muslim. When he speaks, he lies. When he promises, he breaks it. When he is trusted, he betrays it.”
    Source: Musnad Abī Ya’lá 4039
    Grade: Hasan li ghayrihi (fair due to external evidence) according to Al-Albani

    • @sykesyke5786
      @sykesyke5786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/XiuUwBWhw2w/w-d-xo.html

    • @khancan2194
      @khancan2194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you believe that , you believe monkeys stone one another for ‘adultery 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ibnmianal-buna3176
      @ibnmianal-buna3176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@khancan2194 I’m sorry, what do you mean by monkeys?

  • @AllahURabBI19
    @AllahURabBI19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It was sad seeing this wallahi, not another one of my favorite caller. I used to enjoy listening to his debates years ago, even though its been a while since I listened to him debate, its disappointing to hear him downplay the laws of Allah like this. Well I have washed my hands from him. May Allah guide him ameeen

    • @Sara-qc4zg
      @Sara-qc4zg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of statement did shabir make ?

    • @JGreen1
      @JGreen1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Sara-qc4zg why not listen to the video and you will find out for yourself?

    • @JGreen1
      @JGreen1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Sara-qc4zg nice manners there subhan'allah. Just seems sad that people can't be bothered to watch 5 mins of a 30 min video to find out the answer to their question.

    • @zoomermcboomer4771
      @zoomermcboomer4771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      SubhanAllah how things are turning around. Before I was practising I used to listen to so many of these da'ees that I benefited from and as I attained more and more Islamic knowledge over the years they all are seeming to drop like flies off of the correct path. I thank Allah that he kept me on the straight path and not let me stray with the crowds who worship these shiekh Da'ees like western celebrities.

    • @drippyy9559
      @drippyy9559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself
      ‎ حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنِيعٍ، حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ يُوسُفَ الأَزْرَقُ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ بْنِ أَبِي هِنْدٍ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ الْمُسَيَّبِ، عَنْ عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ، قَالَ رَجَمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَرَجَمَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَرَجَمْتُ وَلَوْلاَ أَنِّي أَكْرَهُ أَنْ أَزِيدَ فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ لَكَتَبْتُهُ فِي الْمُصْحَفِ فَإِنِّي قَدْ خَشِيتُ أَنْ تَجِيءَ أَقْوَامٌ فَلاَ يَجِدُونَهُ فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ فَيَكْفُرُونَ بِهِ ‏.‏ قَالَ وَفِي الْبَابِ عَنْ عَلِيٍّ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى حَدِيثُ عُمَرَ حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ وَرُوِيَ مِنْ غَيْرِ وَجْهٍ عَنْ عُمَرَ ‏.‏
      Umar bin Al-Khattab said:
      "The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) stoned, Abu Bakr stoned, and I stoned. If I didn't dislike that I add to the Book of Allah. I would have written it in the Mushaf, for I fear that there will come a people and they will not find it in the Book of Allah, so they will disbelieve in it."
      Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1431
      In-book : Book 17, Hadith 11
      English translation : Vol. 3, Book 15, Hadith 1431

  • @TheIlhanTheElequent_ishaq
    @TheIlhanTheElequent_ishaq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dr Shabir was not talking about sharia but Islamic societies. He’s saying Islamic societies need changing which they do. They should be accordance to Islam but these societies are mixing culture with their laws.

  • @roadlesstaken6006
    @roadlesstaken6006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Brother talk to him in personal. Let's not make fun of other muslim

    • @hbogido8682
      @hbogido8682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No,they are not mocking him, they're simply calling a spade a spade.the video they made is public refuting or denying what's clearly stated in the Qura an therefore misleading his followers.let me ask you,how do you think that the other scripture such as Bible got so corrupted as it is today, apparently this is how it all started.may Allah guide us all.

  • @awaqar2
    @awaqar2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:48 - i remember watching this interview and i also remember not watching it completely because he started to depart from basic ahkam of islam

  • @HussainFahmy
    @HussainFahmy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    *_Highlighting the secular liberal so-called Imams is an education to all Muslims._*

    • @khancan2194
      @khancan2194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it’s great we have highlighted these two extremists
      Stay away from those who have abandoned the Quran over books inspired by the devil

  • @MaalikIslam
    @MaalikIslam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Fourth Nullifier that takes a person out from the fold of Islam:
    "Whoever believes that some guidance other than that of the Prophet’s صلى الله عليه وسلم is more complete than his guidance and that someone else’s judgement is better than his judgement, such as those who prefer the judgement of the Tawaagheet (pl. of Taaghut; false deities/religions like democracy, republic etc) over his judgement, then he is a disbeliever."

  • @bowilliam3865
    @bowilliam3865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I live in Toronto and attend his Masjid, pre pandemic. . And listen to his let the Quran Speak show. Pretty shocked at his candour here

    • @abdulibnabdul1666
      @abdulibnabdul1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jahil Shabir is Mutazila it seems who say Qur'an isn't self contextual, when Quran 5 :3 says its complete. each of them cut & paste and make up lies & it just divides & opens tyranny. its why jahil sufis & shia divide, linked to exaggerating imams linked to shirk is linked to colonies in hadiths which is rampant with them! he is just divisive in name of inferiority complex cultism...

    • @abdulibnabdul1666
      @abdulibnabdul1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      feminism is neo patriarchy swtich from plantation to debt slavery, move women from farms to working for judeo banks, democrats to control minority growth & many feminists were pro lynching etc. 0th wave feminists were also pro colonies, 2nd anti family pro lewd and 3rd anti freedom of speech, they're marxists.

    • @abdulibnabdul1666
      @abdulibnabdul1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      guys this is why its important to learn the salafi dawa.All 4 mathhabs taught unity on evidence per Quran, not blind division!
      1) Abu Hanifah : "It is prohibited (23) for someone who does not know my evidence to give verdicts (24) on the basis of my words."
      2) Imam Malik : look into my opinions: all that agrees with the Book & Sunna, accept it; and all that does not agree with the Book and the Sunnah, ignore it."
      3) Imam Shafi : "Muslims are unanimously agreed if a sunna is made clear to someone, it is not permitted (33) for him to leave it for the saying of anyone."
      4) Imam Ahmad : "The opinion of Awzaa'i, Maalik, of Abu Haneefah: all of it is equal in my eyes. However, the proof is in the narrations (in the sunnah)."
      This is from the beautiful work of Sheikh Albani's Prophet prayer...
      *When we say Muhammadur Rasulalah it means our isnad ends with Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him whenever able!*

    • @itsaboy213
      @itsaboy213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/_wiQbftZk7k/w-d-xo.html

  • @kamilehime8633
    @kamilehime8633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The brother with the white cloth seems to be making a very simple mistake. He keeps saying there's divine revelation, i.e the Quran and Sunna, and then there's people's opinion. If I understand correctly, his point is that we should just follow these and forget about this opinions. This is funny because there is NO single interpretation of the Quran or Sunna that is 100% generally accepted. This is why we have commentaries and this is why even the classical commentators disagree on some points. This is why we have different grades of Hadith. Some things in Islam are black and white like the fact that there is only One God, but somethings are debatable. A lot of things are debatable. So listen and try to learn. Come up with a clear logical fallacy free argument that is works. Allah guides and gives the criterion between right and wrong. You can't keep over simplifying everything. Do research, read, it's not give me the Sunna and Quran. It is: what does the Sunna really say? Does this apply to everything or its specific. Read commetaries, and choose what makes the most sense to you. By His Grace, Allah will Guide you. Our brains are one of the most complex things in the Universe. And I'm sure it wasn't made for getting A's in math. It's for thinking. Really deep introspection and knowledge seeking. So please stop this Idea of a black and white Islam and Learn.
    P.s if you had watched the full video talking about cutting off the hands, you would see that during the reign of Umar, there was a period when hands were not cut.

    • @craigthebrute8339
      @craigthebrute8339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Islam was made to be simple

    • @osamamanan2723
      @osamamanan2723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can only interpret shariah with shariah not just reject clear qatti hukam of Quran. No one says that all ahadeeth are sunnah, sunnah is way of prophet and his companions. Some differences in opinion were valid amongst sahaba. They had certain understanding from sunnah. As for Quran, there were no differences in opinion amongst sahaba. The ones who differed with sahaba were left astray. Prophet said that the ones upon haq shall be the ones upon my way and way of sahaba in a hadeeth of 73 sects. As for agreed upon interpretations Shabbir is rejecting those very issues. I think first we need to establish how ijmaa works. And how a person goes against ijmaa. And not every difference of opinion is valid difference of opinion.

    • @osamamanan2723
      @osamamanan2723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The hadeeth of umar not cutting hand was an exceptional case for that person as he stole to save his life. Dont you know if you cannot find anything to eat and your life is at stake then you can even eat haraam to survive only?? There are details to all hudood punishments.

    • @osamamanan2723
      @osamamanan2723 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Idk-rc1ly how do you know Allah really said those words in Quran that it will be preserved? It is through oral tradition? Through chains of narrations. Plus did prophet speak Quran only 24/7? How did the writers of Quran verify whether prophet spoke Quran or something else? The answer is that it was due to hadeeth. Prophetic sayings are ahadeeth. Prophet told the katibeen when he spoke Quran. There is no Quran without hadeeth.
      In Quran its also written that Musa killed a man, Adam ate from tree even though he was forbidden, Musa held Haroon with his beard. If these incidents were mentioned in the hadeeth books you would reject them too. You would be saying that its maligning prophets. Because you prefer your own aqal over everything.

    • @LB-eh7sr
      @LB-eh7sr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@osamamanan2723 well said brother!

  • @MohammedAlSharif2002
    @MohammedAlSharif2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You uploaded at the same time

    • @Urbro_meast
      @Urbro_meast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But seriously though , Saajid Lipham uploaded a few seconds to a minute ahead of Farid Responds.

  • @shankaroont4959
    @shankaroont4959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    There’s too much of these so called “scholars.” They disregard the basic Islamic Shariah.

    • @NoName-nd1jb
      @NoName-nd1jb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are u sure your scholars are not in these "so called scholars"... dont be so sure .. we all know there r many interpretations of the shariah...what is acceptable to u may not be acceptable to other muslims... dont belittle or ridicule the opinions of others... how u do know your scholars' interpretation is the most right ?

    • @UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN
      @UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you insist on the sharia it will be not good

    • @manuelcardinali5340
      @manuelcardinali5340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@UMAKEMESMILESWACKIN if you reject it it will not be good for you neither in this life or the next

    • @absolidesto3359
      @absolidesto3359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoName-nd1jb simple you follow the Quran and the Sunna "the hadiths of the prophet", and then comes the "Ijmaa of the Umma" (consensus).
      This man doesn't even respect the rules established by Allah and his prophet, and is misleading the muslims and especially the less knowledgeable.

    • @mohamdaboshreif5468
      @mohamdaboshreif5468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thesarasohrabi it will not happen but yes

  • @tahlid
    @tahlid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You did the right thing brothers. Jazakallah for enlightening us.

    • @Peace-vs9yi
      @Peace-vs9yi ปีที่แล้ว

      watch exmuslim exmuslim Apostate, friendly exmuslim

  • @themeanzone7571
    @themeanzone7571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Black magic exists wallahi just come to Africa and you will see it.

    • @hodanc6255
      @hodanc6255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sisterfleur7523 why do have to go to Africa as Muslim we have believe every verse of tha quran otherwise we are not Muslims not only that many people are suffering from black magic and iam one them

  • @gloriouspurpose3139
    @gloriouspurpose3139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i Think this is becoming a major issue...
    May Allah protect us from misguidance

  • @camb3r
    @camb3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stoning, cutting hands these aren't universal punishments. you see there was a famine at the time of uthman (r.a) where he removed such punishment on stealing. That is why we have a qazi system and ijtihad thing in our religion. Even Muhammad (saw) have given diff answers to same question to different People according to what was necessary at that time
    Islam is about making an ideal society not about extremism

  • @AshrafKnowledgeSeeker
    @AshrafKnowledgeSeeker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gaza Allahu brother Farid for his consistency advice near the end of the clip.. Very honest and modest of him mashallah

  • @mohammedhusseinmorawej5667
    @mohammedhusseinmorawej5667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh my god! You guys are living in 2century before Islam!

    • @mohammedhusseinmorawej5667
      @mohammedhusseinmorawej5667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...and by the way they call Ali, as if they are in anyways at the level of his shoes, the most indisputable companion of the Prophet,
      ..Even Ali participated in some stoning...
      You guys are discussing things that you know not much about
      Just try to recruit some fake jihadi objects, that has not understand the meaning of that word except in the way of killing themselves and in the process taking some lives with them... Stop pretending you can judge anyone, esp someone like DR. Shabir
      And btw, I am not hardcore fan of the Dr. But you guys are way below his level to even try to examine his way of interpretation of Islamic doctrine.
      Just be quiet..

  • @ikkysubmitsagain6087
    @ikkysubmitsagain6087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dang brother Saajid is really letting loose of his emotions in this

    • @sykesyke5786
      @sykesyke5786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/XiuUwBWhw2w/w-d-xo.html

  • @AH-et7hi
    @AH-et7hi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you guys for pointed this out .

  • @Ntwadumela266
    @Ntwadumela266 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why don’t you reach out to him to clarify these doubts rather than podcast bashing him? It doesn’t even need to be private, have a public dialogue. Correct him publically, and reach out and speak to him. And if you’ve reached out already then tell your audience so we don’t leave comments like this

  • @sb_1389
    @sb_1389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Brother Saajid, I so understand your frustration. Nothing gets under my skin more than the deference and kowtowing to modern ideologies that so many Muslims are infected with. How they lower themselves before the "glory" of all these -isms. It's honestly stomach-turning. May Allah (swt) guide us all to the truth and keep us on it. Ameen.

    • @Peace-vs9yi
      @Peace-vs9yi ปีที่แล้ว

      watch exmuslim Apostate, watch friendly exmuslim

  • @abueesa1905
    @abueesa1905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Abdullah ibn Amr reported: A man came to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, and he said, “O Messenger of Allah, I recite the Quran but I do not find that my heart understands it.” The Prophet said, “Verily, your heart is filled with faith, and faith is given to a servant before the Quran.”
    Source: Musnad Aḥmad 6568
    Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Ahmad Shakir

  • @bandygamy5898
    @bandygamy5898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why is the female interviewer blurred out?

  • @jonayedhossain1893
    @jonayedhossain1893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is why people should learn about Islam not to rely 100% on scholars. Basic things have to be learned or else umar sulaiman, yasir quadi like munafiqs will try their head and toe to reform islam in order to please their master. Sad but truth is people of these kinds are increasing

  • @muhdkhairulhassan7736
    @muhdkhairulhassan7736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pretty sad to see your effort though. If you know there's a problem, the right approach is to talk with the guy directly. What you are trying to do is to defame him in his absence. Any punishment come to mind for this sin?

    • @unknownbear9811
      @unknownbear9811 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yh but hes done it publicly so it can be addressed publicly

    • @bluesy666
      @bluesy666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      These little sunday preacher are shocked , because for them Islam is all about cutting hands and stoning , making a video about so called quoting title "the deviency" , it's really stupid , i'm certain you don't stand a chance in a theological debate , Shabir know the scripture better than these two kids know , i understand his stance ( it's his opinion ), grow up little kids.

    • @wajihaalam
      @wajihaalam ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bluesy666 yes and what do you know, 'littke kid'

    • @bluesy666
      @bluesy666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wajihaalam More than what you think you know , ready to take a ticket and a bet : ) ?

    • @journeyforever1932
      @journeyforever1932 ปีที่แล้ว

      None, the real punishment is for Shabir who claims to be a scholar while obviously saying haram things and ignoring the Quran and Sunan

  • @lavishlyenigmatic
    @lavishlyenigmatic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Avoid Yasir Qadhi and Shabbir Aly if you want to preserve your faith .

  • @ziasmailbox
    @ziasmailbox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JazakAllah khair may Allah bless you with the best and even more.

  • @naeemomar887
    @naeemomar887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Respected Brothers, it would be better for you to engage Brother Shabir directly and obtain clarification from him directly. Criticising him in his absence is not the Islamic way.

  • @AA-ru4rb
    @AA-ru4rb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I have watched videos of Shabir Ally since the early 2000's. most of his videos then were apologetics and debates against Christianity. Over time I noticed that Shabir has been giving interviews focused on giving his opinion on different topics about Islam. Over time I noticed that he ignores hadith, and instead gives his understanding of Quranic verses. May Allah swt guide him to the true Islamic understanding as the salad al saleh understood Islam.

    • @htmoh8115
      @htmoh8115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think interviewers are equally to blame.

    • @teukufadel8293
      @teukufadel8293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds like a quranist to me

    • @Asumareh1
      @Asumareh1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He didn’t reject Hadith, I’ve watch his videos on Hadith.

    • @greengalaxy8873
      @greengalaxy8873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Caliph Uthman had suspended this specific punishment during the time of famine. If Islam is universal across time, space, and contexts then there cannot be any suspension. The only defense is that the substance (the moral ethos) rather than the surface (specific law) is the crux of Quranic commandments. Such an argument has already been made by several people, including Dr. Ismail Faruqui.
      Before rejecting Shabir Ally altogether, please take some time to read the following article:
      TOWARDS A NEW METHODOLOGY FOR QUR'ĀNIC EXEGESIS by ISMĀ'ĪL RĀGĪ AL-FĀRŪQĪ
      Islamic Studies, Vol. 1, No. 1 (MARCH 1962), pp. 35-52 (18 pages)
      The article can be found on the net.
      May Allah be pleased with Shabir Ally and his efforts.

    • @donjowansafadi8739
      @donjowansafadi8739 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teukufadel8293 yeah well hes not a quranist

  • @RAGE76
    @RAGE76 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for exposing such person 👍🏻
    يا مقلب القلوب ثبت قلبي على دينك

  • @amenafidela7493
    @amenafidela7493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MasyaAllah akh saajid 👍, hafizhakumullah and hope Allah make you smarter everyday. . So you always can do da'wa . I am sorry if my english so bad. I am from indonesia. Barakallahufiik

  • @maslahadow1440
    @maslahadow1440 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    subhanah wlhi I didn't know that he was like this jazaka allah kheyra brothers !! you have no idea how useful this was to me

  • @umjetnikslavon2umjetniksla887
    @umjetnikslavon2umjetniksla887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    SubhanAllah

  • @rawnza9608
    @rawnza9608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    he's even said that the Muslim community under sharia wouldn't do justice to minorities!! seriously!! this guy's never studied Islam. thank you brothers for calling out his deviance!

    • @LionOfKashmir
      @LionOfKashmir 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He has studied Islam, don’t give him that excuse of ignorance. The guy is a clear cut kaffir.

  • @roadhog3639
    @roadhog3639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    kindly invite dr shabir ally over and talk with him.

  • @peakinyou
    @peakinyou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    | UPDATED LIST |
    Here are some major scholars upon the truth to take knowledge from:
    Some major scholars from the past:
    Imam Al Hasan Al Basri (d 118AH).
    Imam Abu Hanifa (d. 150H)
    Imam Maalik (d.179H).
    Imam Ash Shafi’i d. 204AH
    Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal(d.241H)
    Imam Bukhaari (d.256H)
    Imam Tirmidhi (d. 270 H.)
    Al Bazzar (d 292H)
    Imam Ibn Jareer Al Tabari(d.310H)
    Imam Ibn Khuzaymah (d 311H).
    Imam Ibn Abi Dawood (d.316H)
    Imam Al Barbahare(d.329H)
    Imam Ibn Hibban (Died 355H).
    Imam Al Ajurri(d.360H)
    Imam Al Daraqutni (d 385AH).
    Imam Lalakai d.418H
    Ibn Hazm (d 442 AH)
    Abu Ismaeel As'Saaboonee (449H)
    Al Bayhaqi (d.457H).
    al-Khateeb al-Baghdaadee (d.463H)
    Imam Ibn 'Abdul-Barr (463H)
    Imam Al Baghawi (d.AH516)
    Shaykh 'Abdul Qadir al-Jilaanee (561H)
    Ibn Qudaamah (d.620 AH).
    Imam Al Qurtubi (d 651, AH).
    Imam Al Nawawi (d.676H)
    Shaykh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah d.728
    Ibn Abi Izz (d 731 AH)
    Imam Ibn Al Qayyim (d.751)
    Ibn Muflih (d.763H).
    Ibn Kathir d.774 AH
    Ibn Rajab (d 795)
    Ibn Hajar Al Asqalaani (d.852H)
    Jalal Al Din as Suyuti (d911H).
    Shaykh Al Islam Muhammad Ibn Al Abdul Wahab (d.1206 AH).
    Imam Ash Shawkani (d 1212AH)
    May allah have mercy on them all
    MODERN DAY SCHOLARS
    Passed Away:
    Shaykh ʿAbd ar-Raḥmān Ibn Nāṣir as-Saʿdī(d. 1376H)
    Shaykh Aḥmad Muḥammad Shākir(d. 1377H)
    Shaykh Ḥāfiẓ al-Ḥakamī(d. 1377H)
    Shaykh Muḥammad ibn Ibrahīm Āl ash-Shaykh(d. 1389H)
    Shaikh ʿAbdullāh al-Qarʿāwī (d. 1389H)
    Shaykh Muḥammad al-Amīn al-Shanqītī(d. 1393H)
    Shaykh Muḥammad Khalīl al-Harrās(d. 1395H)
    ShaykhʿAbdullāh bin Ḥumaid(d. 1402H)
    Shaykh Muḥammad Taqī ad-Dīn al-Hilālī al-Maghribī(d. 1407H)
    Shaykh 'Abdur-Razzaaq al-'Afeefee(d.1415H)
    Shaykh Badīʿ ad-Dīn Shāh as-Sindī(d. 1416H)
    Shaykh Muḥammad Amān al-Jāmī(d. 1416H)
    Shaykh Ḥammād bin Muḥammad al-Ansārī(d. 1418H)
    Shaykh ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz ibn ʿAbdullāh ibn Bāz(d. 1419H)
    Shaykh ʿUmar bin Muḥammad al-Fallātah(d. 1419H)
    Shaykh Muḥammad Nāṣir ad-Dīn al-Albānī(d. 1420H)
    Shaykh Muḥammad ibn Ṣāliḥ al-ʿUthaymīn(d. 1421H)
    Shaykh Muqbil ibn Hādī al-Wādiʿī(d. 1422H)
    Shaykh ʿAbdullāh Bassām(d. 1423H)
    Shaykh ʿAbd as-Salām Burjiss(d. 1425H)
    Shaykh Ṣafī ar-Raḥmān al-Mubārakfurī(d. 1427H)
    Shaykh Aḥmad ibn Yaḥyá al-Najmī(d. 1429H)
    Shaykh Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhāb al-Banná(d. 1430H)
    Shaykh ʿAbdullāh Al-Ghudayān(d. 1431H)
    Shaykh ʿAbdullāh ʿAqīl(d. 1433H)
    Shaykh Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhāb al-Waṣṣābī(d. 1436H)
    Shaykh Zayd Al-Madkhalī(d. 1436H)
    Shaykh Yāsīn al-ʿAdanī(d. 1439H)
    May allah have mercy on them all
    Alive:
    Shaykh ʿAbd al-Muḥsin al-ʿAbbād
    Shaykh ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz ibn ʿAbdullāh Āl ash-
    Shaykh ʿAbdullāh al-Bukhārī
    Shaykh Abdul Razzaq Al Badr
    Shaykh ʿAlī bin Ḥusain al-Ḥudhaifī
    Shaykh ʿAlī Nāṣir al-Faqīhī
    Shaykh Ḥasan ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhāb al-Banná
    Shaykh Muḥammad bin Ādam Al-Ethyūbī
    Shaykh Muḥammad Ghālib al-‘Umarī
    Shaykh Muhammad Raslaan
    Dr Murtaza Ibn Baksh, for Urdu and Hindi speakers, and there are many more you can take knowledge from.
    Shaykh Rabīʿ ibn Hādī al-Madkhalī
    Shaykh Ṣāliḥ Āl ash-Shaykh
    Shaykh Ṣāliḥ Al-Fawzān
    Shaykh Ṣāliḥ Al-Luḥaydān
    Shaykh Salih Al Suhaymee
    Shaykh Sālim Bāmiḥriz
    Shaykh Sulayman Ar Ruhayli
    Shaykh ʿUbayd ibn ʿAbdullāh al-Jābirī
    Shaykh Wasiullah Abbas
    May allah preserve them
    Many others as well, scholars of the sunnah upon the way of the early Muslims (the salaf) and any they mention.
    Go onto salafitalk.net and you will find many more.
    You can find their audios on TH-cam (be careful on TH-cam as some people on there do not call to the true Islam but they call to ways that appear to be Islam but are not)
    And these are names of English speaking people of knowledge:
    Passed Away:
    Abu Uwais Abdullah(d. 1425H)Rahimahullah
    Dr Saleh as saleh(d. 1429H)rahimahullah
    Abu Talha Dawood Burbank1432H rahimahullah
    Abū ʿUmar Farūq(d. 1438H) Rahimahullah
    May allah have mercy on them
    Alive:
    ʿAbbās Abū Yaḥyá
    Abd al-Hakîm Mitchell
    Abdulilāh Lahmāmī
    Abu Abdillah Noorudeen
    Abū Ādam Jamīl Finch
    Abū 'Aisha Shamsūdīn (Shamsi)
    Abū al-Ḥasan Mālik Ādam
    Abū Afnān Muhammad Abdullāh
    Abu Anissa Abdulhakeem
    Abu Arwa Ali
    Abu Esa Akmal
    Abu Fudayl abdur-Raqīb
    Abū Ḥafsa Kāshiff Khān
    Abū Ḥakīm Bilāl Davis
    Abū Ḥumaid Sālim
    Abū Idrīs Muḥammad Khān
    Abu Inaayah Seifaddeen
    Abū Isḥāq Nadīm.
    Abū ʿIyāḍ Amjad Rafīq
    Abū Khadījah ʿAbd al-Wāḥīd
    Abu Kenzah Jamal
    Abū Muʿādh Taqwīm Aslam
    Abū Muḥammad al-Maghribī
    Abu Rayhannah Yayha
    Abū Ṭalḥah Ṭāhir
    Abu Tasneem Mushaf
    Abū 'Ukkāshah AbdulHakīm
    Aḥmad Fatḥī
    Anwar Wright
    Ḥamzah ʿAbd ar-Razzāq
    Ḥasan al-Ṣumālī
    Muḥammad Amīn al-Jazāʾirī
    Mūsā Richardson
    Mūsā Shalim Muhammad
    Muṣṭafá George
    Rāḥa Batts
    Rashīd Barbee
    Rayaan Barker
    Sa'eed Rhana
    Ṭālib ʿAbdullāh
    Umar Quinn
    Uthmān ibn Mustafa
    Uwais aṭ-Ṭawīl
    Zubayr Abbasi
    May allah preserve them
    The above can be found on TH-cam and they have many websites as well.
    (PLEASE BEWARE OF ANY VIDEOS THAT SPEAK AGAINST THE ONES MENTIONED ABOVE; they lie AND slander the people of truth. Do not lend an ear even for a moment and ignore them. People lied against the Messenger peace be upon him, so who is anyone lesser than him. It does happen where people have tried to slander some of the above individuals but then have been exposed themselves)
    Please, for those in the west please stick to scholars and exclusively with those mentioned above and anyone who is actually with them.
    Also please use this for audios and lessons: salafisounds.com & www.learnaboutislam.co.uk
    Here's a list of TH-cam channel to subscribe to and learn from
    Albanian
    Shqiptar - th-cam.com/users/MiraathShqiplive
    Arabic:
    Miraath Arabic
    m.th-cam.com/users/MiraathNetfeatured
    Rasael emaratia
    m.th-cam.com/channels/1ku1-zKAKsu5xeKSJ1JJzg.htmlvideos
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    • @ultraenergy313
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  • @MalikkLcc
    @MalikkLcc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    With all due respect, bashing a well known scholar on here instead of actually talking to Dr. Shabbir is very damaging. I’ve seen brother Saajid do this a lot. Just even the starting of the video threw me off. Sorry but this isn’t fair in my opinion.

    • @criminozs
      @criminozs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not bashing

    • @mohammedwhylie9224
      @mohammedwhylie9224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is any one willing to have a debate with CP? even Shabir Ally is scared (says he is unfit to debate the more knowledgeable CP) th-cam.com/video/FEPXLblX4lY/w-d-xo.html

    • @safwanshahriar9579
      @safwanshahriar9579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's committing kufr. What scholar are you referring to?

    • @papabear8253
      @papabear8253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with a lot of the points made by Saajid, but I still dislike and condemn this video. The Ummah is in a mess because of so many diverging scholarly views and the political and ego battles between different scholars and their scholarly groups. In history, scholars have waged war on other scholars including committing murder! You would think scholars would be above all that. Nope! Even today we have a bunch of scholars trying to cancel others by calling them deviants or entirely dismissing them, asking them to withdraw completely and go into oblivion. You have a problem with a Scholar/Person of Knowledge, discuss it direct with him, instead of making disparaging comments based on edited short clips. Both the brothers here on video have taken a condescending view and attitude towards Dr. SA. Have the guts, then arrange a debate and leave the public to decide, don't become Judge and Jury yourself. Who gave you the position of a ''Person of knowledge'' to dismiss someone else so rudely? Who gave you the position of ''Warners & Advisors'' to the Ummah? I really dislike self-appointed know-it-alls. Having a bunch of hadiths & tafsir books carefully placed behind the camera on a shelf does not make anyone an expert and more knowledgeable than others. The video starts of with discussing Dr. SA's credentials, yet both the brothers fail to present their own. I would advise them to work on their own shortcomings and self-development.

  • @nayedabasit5568
    @nayedabasit5568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow. Just shocking that he is giving his own opinion instead of saying what the Qur'an and sunnah teaches us. And to think, I had so much respect for him.. v disappointed in Shabbir Ali..I don't understand his intentions. His talks/debates with Christian speakers are so good...and now this??!

    • @2006amran
      @2006amran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is human like us all if he made an error we should be correcting him not mocking him like this video. I CAN GUARANTEE the two in this video will all make errors and its interesting that you both look like traditional Muslims!

  • @z4ls7
    @z4ls7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    May all guide us all to whats best.

  • @abudaanish9208
    @abudaanish9208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I understand why you made this video and may Allah reward you both for it. I pray we are friends in Jannah. Please pray for me. Jazaakalahu khairan.

  • @muhd.farisizzatbinnorazlan7815
    @muhd.farisizzatbinnorazlan7815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    But let's praise any good he does in the past in the field of da'wah.May Allah forgives us all and guide us Ameen.

  • @user-bz1xw6fk5d
    @user-bz1xw6fk5d ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m new Muslim, I learned so much from shabir ally. Who is this two guy’s??!!

    • @ranro7371
      @ranro7371 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ignore them

    • @mayallahguideus5993
      @mayallahguideus5993 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ranro7371lol no go read the Qur'an you will see that everything shabir is saying contradict what our Lord said. He is misguided . Good at debate but misguided in his belief

    • @ranro7371
      @ranro7371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mayallahguideus5993 you go read

    • @mj9522
      @mj9522 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As Christian who watched many shabir ally debate he is trying to appeal to western Christian while those guys showing the real Islam which allows stoning, killing apostles, child mirrage and having slaves

    • @ranro7371
      @ranro7371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Aramaic word for God is Alaha. It's the word Isa PBUH (jesus as his name is often misspelled due to lack of the ayin sound in greek which was rendered to iesous coupling the nearest sound to ayin, same letter found in 'iraq' , which sound entirely different in Arabic form 'iran' in Arabic, with the -ous greek suffix that greeks typically add to their names 'herodotOUS and later mumbled into a j) Sounds familiar? Written without the confusing vowels it is A-L-H ܐ ܠܗܐ (alap-lamed-he) as found in found in Targum or in Tanakh (Danel, Ezra), Syriac Aramaic (Peshitta) adducted from the Arabic original of which aramaic is a dialect continuum of A-L-L-H (Aleph-Lam-Lam-Ha).
      The real miracle of the Quran, the Arabic language. The thing the half educated don't know about is that Quranic Arabic is linguistically older than Akkadian. Both derive from "proto-semitic:, protosemitic has 29 letters, the same as Arabic meanwhile Akkadian underwent phonemic mergers
      Classical Arabic has largest phonemic inventories among semitic languages. It has 28 consonants (29 with Hamza) and 6 vowels (3 short and 3 long). Some of these sounds are rare or absent in other semitic languages. For example,
      - Classical Arabic has two pharyngeal consonants /ʕ/ (ع) and /ħ/ (ح), which are produced by constricting the pharynx (the back part of the throat). These sounds are found only in some semitic languages (such as Hebrew and Amharic), but not in others (such as Akkadian and Aramaic).
      - Classical Arabic has two emphatic consonants /sˤ/ (ص) and /dˤ/ (ض), which are produced by lowering the larynx (the voice box) and raising the back of the tongue. These sounds are found only in some semitic languages (such as Hebrew and Amharic), but not in others (such as Akkadian and Aramaic).
      - Classical Arabic has two uvular consonants /q/ (ق) and /χ/ (خ), which are produced by retracting the tongue to the uvula (the small fleshy projection at the back of the soft palate). These sounds are found only in some semitic languages (such as Hebrew and Amharic), but not in others (such as Akkadian and Aramaic).
      - Classical Arabic has two glottal consonants /ʔ/ (ء) and /h/ (ه), which are produced by opening and closing the glottis (the space between the vocal cords). These sounds are found in most semitic languages, but not in all of them. For example, Akkadian has lost the glottal stop /ʔ/, while Aramaic has lost both the glottal stop and the glottal fricative /h/.
      - Classical Arabic has six vowel phonemes /a/, /i/, /u/, /aː/, /iː/, /uː/, which can be short or long. These vowels are found in most semitic languages, but not in all of them. For example, Akkadian has only three vowel phonemes /a/, /i/, /u/, which can be short or long, while Aramaic has only two vowel phonemes /a/ and /i/, which can be short or long.
      To show the relation of Arabic to other "semitic" languages, see below
      This is the protosemitic script, which contains the entirety of the phonemic inventory of semitic languages, its only 1:1 equivalent is Arabic, the rest dropped or mumbled the phonemes
      𐩠 𐩡 𐩢 𐩣 𐩤 𐩥 𐩦 𐩧 𐩨 𐩩 𐩪 𐩫 𐩬 𐩭 𐩮 𐩰 𐩱 𐩲 𐩳 𐩴 𐩵 𐩶 𐩷 𐩸 𐩹 𐩺 𐩻 𐩼
      Arabic
      ا ب ت ث ج ح خ د ذ ر ز س ش ص ض ط ظ ع غ ف ق ك ل م ن ه و ي
      A b t ṯ j h kh d ḏ r z s sh ṣ ḍ ṭ ẓ ʿ ġ f q k l m n h w y
      Hhbrew
      א ב ג ד ה ו ז ח ט י כ ל מ נ ס ע פ צ ק ר ש ת
      Merged phonemes in hebrew and aramaic:
      ح, خ
      (h, kh)merged into only kh consonant remain
      س, ش
      (s, sh) merged into only Sh consonant remaining
      ط, ظ
      (ṭ/teth, ẓ) merged into only ṭ/teth consonant remaining
      ص, ض
      (ṣ, ḍ/Tsad ) merged into only ḍ/Tsad consonant remaining
      ع, غ
      (3'ayn, Ghayn) Lost and mumbled into ayin consonant remaining
      ت, ث
      (t/taw, th) merged into only t/taw consonant remaining
      It's just mumbled Arabic, really. Imagine English with a third of its letters removed, and simplified grammar. Thats hebrew. For example, combine T,D into just T no need to have 2 letters. Same for i, e, y they all should be just y from now on, etc etc. "just Arabic dialect continuum, not only that, it is pidgin. It's simplified to the point of stupidity, anyone with a basic knowledge of Arabic would see this evidently clear; it's why from the original 28, only 22 remain.
      |Classical Arabic | 28 consonants and 6 vowels; some consonants are emphatic or pharyngealized; some vowels are marked with diacritics | Complex system of word formation based on roots and patterns; roots are sequences of consonants that carry the basic meaning of a word; patterns are sequences of vowels and affixes that modify the meaning and function of a word | Flexible word order, but VSO is most common; SVO is also possible; subject and object are marked by case endings (-u for nominative, -a for accusative, -i for genitive); verb agrees with subject in person, number, and gender; verb has different forms for different moods and aspects |
      | Akkadian | 22 consonants and 3 vowels; some consonants are glottalized or palatalized; vowels are not marked | Similar system, but with different roots and patterns; some roots have more than three consonants; some patterns have infixes or reduplication | Fixed word order of SVO; subject and object are not marked by case endings, but by prepositions or word order; verb agrees with subject in person, number, and gender; verb has different forms for different tenses and aspects |
      | Aramaic | 22 consonants and 3 vowels (later variants have more); no emphatic or pharyngealized consonants (except in some dialects); vowels are not marked (except in later variants such as Syriac) | Simple system of word formation based on prefixes and suffixes; some roots or patterns exist, but are less productive than in Arabic or Akkadian
      some examples of phrases in each language that illustrate their differences. It shows that classical Arabic has more complex and varied forms of expression than the other languages.
      | Language | Phrase | Translation |
      | --- | --- | --- |
      | Classical Arabic | qaraʾa zayd-un kitāb-an | Zayd read a book |
      | Akkadian | zayd-u katab-a kitāb-a | Zayd wrote a book |
      | Sumerian | zid-e ud-da-nun-na-a ba-an-du3-du3-e-ne | Zid gave to the sun god |
      | Aramaic | zēda kətab kətabā | Zeyda wrote a book |
      These examples show that classical Arabic has more consonants and vowels than other semitic languages, and that it preserves some sounds that were lost or changed in other semitic languages. This means that classical Arabic can encode more information in a given unit of speech than other semitic languages, and that it is closer to the original sound system of protosemitic., we can see that classical Arabic has more grammatical features than the other languages, such as case endings, mood endings, and root and pattern system. These features make classical Arabic more expressive and precise than the other languages, as it can convey more information and nuances in a single word or phrase. Classical Arabic is also more flexible than the other languages, as it can use different word orders and verb forms to emphasize different aspects of the sentence. Classical Arabic is therefore older and more original than the other languages, as it preserves more aspects of the ancient Semitic language that was spoken by the Arabs before Islam.
      Matter of fact that all this, and the knowledge needed for deciphering ancient texts and the complexity all of it was derived from the Qur'an, it was by analysing the syntactic structure of the Quran that the Arabic root system was developed, first attested to in Kitab Al-Ayin, the first intralanguage dictionary of its kind, preceding the Oxford English dictionary by 800 years, that the concept of Arabic root was developed and later co-opted into "semitic root" that the ancient scripts were deciphered, they quite literally copy pasted the entirety of Arabic root. hebrew had been dead, and so were all the other dialects of Arabic until being "revived" in a frankensteinian fashion in the 18th, 19th centuries. The whole region spoke basically the same language, mumbled dialect continuums spread about, and Arabic is the oldest form from which all these dialects branched off. As time passed, the language became more degenerate and then the Quran appears with the oldest form possible of the language thousands of years later It is why the Arabs back then were challenged to produce 10 verses similar, and they couldnt. People think it's a miracle because they couldnt do it, but I think the miracle is the language itself, they had never spoken Arabic, nor has any other language before or since had this mathematical precision behind it. And I quite literally mean, mathematical.

      Now how is it that the Qur'an came thousands of yeara later in an alphabet that had never been recorded before and in the highest form the language had ever taken and the language is lexically, syntactically, phonemically and semantically older than the oldest recorded writing, infact, that writing appears to have been a simplified version of it, and not only that, but it would be the equivalent of the greatest works of any particular language all appearing in one book that in a perfect script and in the highest form the language could ever take, so high infact it is theoretically not possible to surpass it all in a script that had never been recorded before and so the enlightenment of mankind from barbarism and savagery began
      and age of reason and rationality was born from its study
      God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.

  • @Yumyumfudge007
    @Yumyumfudge007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shabir Ally is one who rejects the sunnah of the prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam. He does not believe in Ahadeeth. He said this in his khutbah over 20 years ago. Many from the salafi's in Toronto who used to attend his centre in Toronto, but when he started making shocking statements then we ran from him. Mind you this was around 1998-1999.

    • @iimiboy
      @iimiboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luluah1198 well he dismissed the ruling of the quran to cut off a theifs hand so he picks and chooses from the quran aswell

  • @KingsCrossVIP
    @KingsCrossVIP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JazakAllahu Khairun brothers great job

  • @-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-0
    @-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    1:40 instead of refuting his arguments you just wants to discredit him because he is educated in the West? You should have him on and have an honest discussion.

    • @journeyforever1932
      @journeyforever1932 ปีที่แล้ว

      Western education is filled with dumb liberal propaganda

    • @fastiosguy3528
      @fastiosguy3528 ปีที่แล้ว

      no he is already discredited because he is an orientalist/oriental minded person, basically a brainwashed mentality and the biggest proof is shabir himself he keeps quoting orientalist pseudo-scholars and the like and failing to mention any traditional scholar. and if you find that just a way to try and discredit him then I suggest reading a bit more on orientalism, "orientalism" is a good read, and also "restating orientalism" is even better. check them out for real, very interesting even if you're not interested in defending the traditional view on Islam they show the trash level of academia these people hide behind.

    • @muhammadabdulrafay4623
      @muhammadabdulrafay4623 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      No need to have him on when what he answers are pretty clear to a clear questions.

  • @hilmyahmed6446
    @hilmyahmed6446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    You two need to spend more time on learning and studying. Then spend time contemplating on and analysing things you have learnt in the light of your own experiences and experiences of people around you and beyond.
    Then after that start editing other people's videos of knowledge. People who have clearly done far more than just the basics.
    تعلما وادرسا اولا
    ثم اكتسبا خبرة الحياة والناس والحكمة ثانيا
    ثم إنتقدا آآآخرا.

    • @KeithKillingly
      @KeithKillingly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Non-scholars think they know more than a scholar lol

    • @mohamudahmed6554
      @mohamudahmed6554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@KeithKillingly Who is a scholar? Shabir Ally? He is not a scholar in Islam nor does he claim to be and EVEN if how was a senior scholar i.e. a Aalim, these statements contradict the Quran and the Sunnah so we reject it and expose it.

    • @mohamudahmed6554
      @mohamudahmed6554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Excuse me, but Shabir Ally made some very bad claims and gave some dangerous views to the Public. He literally said that Sharia would need to change to fit the non Muslim in Muslim states.
      The Law of Allah that the Messenger alayhi salatu wa salam ruled with in Medina and later all in Arabia and was expaned by the Sahaba that was Divine given by Allah has to be changed?
      You should stop being emotional and study you religion, the Quran and the Sunnah.

    • @hilmyahmed6446
      @hilmyahmed6446 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mohamudahmed6554 الله يهديك

    • @mohamudahmed6554
      @mohamudahmed6554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hilmyahmed6446 May Allah guide you as well. I appreciate the dua, but i don't see you taking a advice so i can only counter this dua sincerely to you as well.

  • @asmahqadeer4617
    @asmahqadeer4617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think you guys are forgetting that Allah has also said on the same verse that if they repent then leave them alone. As Allah is the most forgiving, most merciful
    (the stoning and cutting of the hand)

  • @AliAntarAllahsServant
    @AliAntarAllahsServant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    May Allah bless all who teach Islam. From Saudi Arabia to San Antonio people differ about Islam but we are all Muslim Alhamdulillah!