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Diniz has mentioned in one of his interviews that "Brazil was trying to follow european football style, with positional football and lack of individual plays, style which was developed to play against Brazil in previous decades". This quote itself reveals so much because, why are we brazilians trying to follow this play style instead of improving ours, which has been so successful for so long? Diniz come to Brazil as a light at the end of tunnel, encouraging Brazil's players to go for individual plays, flair, dribbling, fast-paced plays and passes, this is our way of play, this is what brought 5 world cups to us, not pretending to be europeans.
Its pretty simple - a lot of your players play in Europe, where positional play is king. therefore brazilian players are no more brazilian in terms of playing style. As it was pointed out in this video, they have a lot of problems trying to become brasilian again. Unless european football shifts towards more funcional play, brazilian players will forever loose their indentity. Ufortunately.
@@frontdown3249 I get your point that playing in Europe makes it harder for the players to follow this kind of style. However, even though they're playing the positional way in Europe, I think it's kinda natural for Brazilians to play the Diniz way, due to growing up playing futsal (in a small pitch, with lots of dribbling and individual plays) for example. I might be mistaken about that, but I hope I'm not hahah
@@frontdown3249I gotta disagree. Although Brazilian players develop to adapt to European style football, it doesn’t mean that they will have a hard time adapting to their identity. I grew up playing quick counter attack football so I instinctively know how to play counter attack football. However, when I play with a well coordinated team, I have to play more possession based style. It took me a while but I adapted but I’m comfortable with the style that I grew up with. Brazilians, although they develop their careers in Europe, will naturally be able to play Joga Bonito without any issues. Its a lack of talent that can play Joga Bonito that is an issue with Brazilian soccer. However, they’ll be back to destroy football. Its in their blood.
So hyped this is not just a one off and you will be following the journey and keeping us posted! I am a high school coach in the US, and my Varsity Coach and I want to play pure football like this...high level counterpressing, and then play. Joga Bonito...not automations. Diniz has inspired us to try and do our own sort of Fluminense up here in Montana. 👊
An interesting thing here is that all schools in Brazil and their millions of children play futsal and football in physical education classes. Not to mention that practically every neighborhood in Brazil has a futsal court or an artificial grass field and scheduling games by renting these courts is common among Brazilians. For example, I play football every Tuesday and Friday with my friends from work and college. This logic of thinking about football for Brazilians through our culture is basically like the Portuguese we speak (totally different in pronunciation from the Portuguese of Portugal), our way of making music, dancing, smiling, all of this is reflected in the way we play football for Brazilians. football is rooted in our culture. It's common for Brazilians to propose to their girlfriends in stadiums, it's common for us to wear our team's shirt under a jacket to work or some event with a dress code. Team symbols and team names are common on streets, bars and public spaces. The way of playing Brazilian football is linked to the way we Brazilians see the world and relate to it and seeing Diniz trying to rescue our inner self that is not Western, is not European and is our cultural school of playing this wonderful sport is beautiful to accompany. A hug from São Paulo-Brazil
Brazilian here, 36, watching football since 92 when Tele Santana's São Paulo FC smashed twice UCL (not true UCL i know) champions. Seleção 82-86 and São Paulo FC highly influenced managers like Guardiola. So what I'm sayin that you might wanna study Brazilian 90s and 00s football bro. Some clubes to watch: São Paulo FC 91-93; Palmeiras 93-99; Corinthians 98-00; Santos and Cruzeiro 00-04. Those clubs managed to be the keystones for 94 and 2002 titles. Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Djalminha, Alex, Vampeta, César Sampaio, Zinho, Mazinho, Flavio Conceição, Mauro Silva, Aldair, Antonio Carlos Zago to name just a few who played for those clubs. They all played mainly in 442 wide/4132/4312/41212. Full backs supported at the same time, two CDMs, two CAMs, 1 SS and 1 CF. Basically it was have 60% posession and do whatever do not LOSE ball. EDIT: I forgot managers/coaches: Felipão, Vanderlei Luxemburgo and Tele Santana mainly! Those 3 were inspiration to Fernando Diniz football nowadays.
As Argentinian this brings me so much relief and happiness. Our Brazilian brothers needed those tactics so bad... And football itself needed a new Jogo Bonito Brasil ❤
@@igorblackpantermove9 Don't be stupid, yes we are! Rivalry does not prevent the opponent from being able to admire our football! That's a genuine feeling.
Diniz' game feels a lot like futsal. Neymar, Robaldinho, Ronaldo and so many of our great players started as futsal players when young. And Diniz actually was a profissional futsal player, I believe.
nice take on this, i notice their pattern immediately always come for pass 1-2 or knows where to do attacking run its actually (i think) like Pep , attacking box per box (in the field) with many possible players but yea, will be very hard to implement it because its so much different to europe playstyle
Not really. Diniz only played for and managed football teams, he had no relation whatsoever with futsal, though I understand the point you guys are making.
@@fabioriato Diniz does have a big connection with Futsal. He was a Futsal player before playing football professionally and actually is said to have been a better futsal player than football player. It seems he did not play Futsal professionally, though. He went on to play football after being a very appreciated futsal player. When I made that comment I didn't know for sure his connection with Futsal. But after that, I've seen it confirmed on ESPN Brasil's “Sonho de Menino, com Fernando Diniz” documentary film. Some articles also touch on this matter.
Actually this style doesn’t suit hem, he likes to drible and in this style he has much less space for 1v1. But he is so good that he has other quality’s to impact the game
Diniz Fluminense has the most dribles in the league, the players aree expected to drible a lot not only in 1v1 but during progression, you often see André (the most defensive midfielder who even plays as center back sometimes) making risky dribles almost in his own area between 2 or 3 oposite players, thats actually where neymar shines more, he doesnt have the explosion he had as young to 1v1 as consistently but havin imense ball control is very important to progress in tight spaces as Diniz teams tends to play @@josiaschaveiro5057
@@josiaschaveiro5057 Neymar would shine in this style as a winger as Fluminense creates many 1v1 situations with Arias and Keno, but Brazil severely lacks a "playmaker" so he has to do it since he's also the best one at that right now. Neymar would've loved to be born 10 years earlier.
@@josiaschaveiro5057 actually I think he likes playing one-two passes with teammates near him. And it suits him better at his age when his athleticism has gone down. He doesn't need to sprint as much to get pass the opponents when that isn't as much of an objective.
Como argentino, como amante del buen fútbol celebro que Brazil vuelva a sus raíces y a su juego vibrante y hermoso. Espero que esto sirva para regresar a la gloria al pueblo brasileño y a su fútbol.
fijate que lo mismo le sirvio a Argentina para ganar tanto el mundial como la copa america, volver a sus raices y jugar un futbol que se sale del estandar europeo.
Great analysis. Here are some observations: Bruno Guimarães's first experience as a professional player came in a small club called Audax and it was with Diniz as the coach. He had his breakout seasons later in Athletico - PR where he worked with Fernando Diniz once again. So he can most definitely be a center piece in Diniz's work with seleção and that's one of the reasons. The players are indeed mostly from europe, where they work in a much different style of play, but in all of his career one of his characteristics has been how fast he can make teams play his signature style. So despite not having much time with the players, I think in a few games we might be seeing the squad more comfortable with his style. And finally, the biggest question mark regarding his work is the fact that it's not supposed to last long. CBF's president has said publically that Ancelotti will be running the team at the Copa America, so this leaves everybody wondering what's the point of developing such a bold project if in one year's time we'll have a different coach with different ideas. Loved the analysis, can't wait for the next episodes!
Although the time matters, it is the first time that Diniz gets whatever player he wants with any style he needs. Diniz is not well known as a winner in Brazil, but, we usually attribute this due the financial situation is he's team. This time, the Dinizism is going to be put in real proof.
bro this brazil team worst than the manchester united squad lmao. brazil needs to call up talisca . and more players that actually play in brazil. all these european cats dont play for the jersey.
Neymar was having an awful game against Peru until the 90th minute when he assisted Marquinhos' goal. It's crazy how even when having a really bad game he can become decisive in an instant.
Neymar is a genius player, definitely one of the most skilled playmakers of all time. He's made bad career choices and is out of shape now, but you can still see glimmers of his potential
@@snakeeater80 against croatia he did nothing, and Peru was using the same tactic of croatia but the DT of Peru simply Broke all of his system in the last 15 minutes and so Brasil wins, basically cause of a Big tactical error
This is so exciting to see! I’m so bored watching teams try and play so similarly to one another based off of what pep is doing. Great upload! Love this channel
I should mention Bruno Guimaraes was coached by Diniz as a youth player and it was Diniz that promoted him to the professional team in Clube Athletico Paranaense. They have a close relationship, worth looking into btw. So, if there was a single player that would know the coach's book by heart, that would be BG. For sure Diniz will have a hard time changing the mindset players like Casemiro, Rodrigo, Vini Jr, Marquinhos etc, comfortable with what made them champions in some of the worlds toughest leagues, tournaments...
At least I think the Madrid players will be more flexible because of Anccelloti's style. Already this season with the arrival of Bellingham he's having Vini and Rodrygo leave the touch lines and drift a lot more than last season.
Ancelotti also plays in a functional / relational style, but less radical and innovative as Diniz’s, also more balanced defensively, with less use of high blocks, defending in a more medium block. Maybe even better for a Knock-out cup competition
@AlSpaniard6 whether he accomplishes anything will determine whether what he's doing is great or just a novelty with false promises that won't be successful.
The Brazilian team of 1982 had certain things in their favour which is radically different from their current situation and that Zico, Falco, Socrates and Eder all played their football IN Brazil. That being said Diniz and his methods of training is the absolute way forward for Brazil’s team to return to the Beautiful Game once again.
The posicional playing method is perfect for Japan and other asian contries. Brazil needs more than anything is to be in a great psychological state. This has been lacking in recent WC eliminations. Stay calm, relaxed and having fun in the dance of football. Nossa bagunça organizada!
I'm a Brazil fan from Bangladesh. Please in your 2nd part, talk about defense and off-the-ball strategy of Fernando Diniz. Brazil conceded a ugly goal vs Bolivia thogh scored 5 goals. When the payers stay closer instead of remaining wide, one small mistake can bring a counter attack, isn't it? Fluniese defense is not the best in Brazilio SerieA. And, What's happened to Richarlison in Brazil squad. Richarlison is struggling in tottenham as well. But in Tite's Brazil, Richarlison was shinning. All the players are used to play in european regular style. Can they cope up with a new style all of a sudden? Though all of them are prefessional.
As a Fluminense supporter, Bolivia's goal was a classic "Fluminense fumbling and conceding a goal" by lack of attention. It'll happen a lot before they get it together. They shoudn't give that much space to opposing players and be really quick to retrive the ball or make a foul to stop the attack. It's one of the reasons André and Nino are really high regarded by Fluminense. Bummer they weren't tested in these matches but Diniz probably already knows what they are capable of and want to impose his style to the others first. Can't wait the world to see the crazyness of taking a RB/LB and putting a winger or CF when the team is not winning against Argentina making a midfielder the new RB/LB. About Richarlison after the World Cup, not sure if it's psychological problem. The lack of goals making a pressure that makes him play worse or something else. He does not deserve to be a starter or even called right now. I would like to see Vitor Roque or someone new for the position.
I think Brazil is literally the only team in the world who'd love the freedom of individual accountability and flair. However I'm very curious about off the ball tactics as well. Its clear the European style don't work for Brazil.
Yes. His 2020-21 São Paulo team is an exemple of how bad his system can be and how easy it is to score on his defenses, losing a championship they led for almost the entire year. His whole career has been like that, he is not qualified for the job.
Neymar's rapid adaptation to Diniz's football philosophy can be attributed to his roots in futsal, which fundamentally shaped his approach to the 11-a-side game. This background has endowed him with an innate understanding of the game, particularly suitable for dynamic and skill-focused styles like Diniz's. This approach naturally favors players with an element of unpredictability and flair in their play. However, it raises the question of how this more spontaneous, skill-oriented method will fare against a disciplined, positional strategy, especially when faced with rapid counter-attacks. I do believe that this philosophy if uphold by the Brazilian federation, will for sure bring back highly skilful and a joy to watch players.
I'd appreciate if you analyse Leverkusen under Xabi Alonso! They seem to play a mixture of positional play and relationism, in a highly fluid system. Definitely interesting to me and successful as well :-)
Modern day mobile rondo throughout the pitch. BRILLIANT! Will be easier to implement at club level vs national team when the players come together infrequently.
exactly, since the teams tend to build around their new marquee players, the style of play can be inherently relational, like how Al Nassr is building around Ronaldo. His team under Luis Castro plays beautiful relational football now. More Brazilian talents = more beautiful football that their fans like. The European teams except Real Madrid don't use their Brazilians the right way anyway.
I like that this style is such a contrast to European Football. I feel like it's a shame that Ancelotti seems to be coming in the next year. I feel like sticking to Diniz and letting him build on this project is much more exciting.
To be fair, if there’s one current great European manager that you’d want to continue Diniz’s style and pretty much not change a working system (assuming it becomes successful for Brazil), it’s Ancelotti. He’s not obsessed with tactics.
Another fantastic video on one of my favourite topics, looking forward to you covering more! Up there with Tifo irl for one of the best right now, keep it up!
Sou torcedor do Fluminese. Ver os jogos é algo prazeroso. Diniz tenta resgatar o futebol criativo, forte e eficiente. Ele encoraja seus jogadores a acreditarem na vitória.
Esse estilo potencializa nosso futebol e nossos jogadores. Temos um estilo próprio que já ganhou 5 copas do mundo. Parabéns pela excelente análise do estilo Diniz de futebol.
Your future coverage of the Brazilian NT will be very interesting, not only for the analysis but also because of the rather... questionable, way CBF is handling the coach situation. Since Ancelotti will supposedly take over after having Diniz for a year I can't help but wonder, if Dinizismo works wonders for the Seleção, will Ancelotti try and adapt his coaching style to this new reality, or will he simply ignore it and have the team be closer to what we have at RM, which is not completely positional but certainly not the Diniz style either?
It could work fine. Since most players play on positional style teams, having some experience with Diniz' style and then going to something that is in-between could prove very beneficent.
as a Brazilian, I love the ideal of football Fernando Diniz defends, even though he's kind of underappreciated, and sometimes ridicularized (by the other teams' supporters) for not having won anything relevant for big clubs in his coaching career yet. But I must say I don't like the way his situation at the Seleção is being conducted. As an interim manager, for a year, so that Carlo Ancelotti can take the reins in 2024 to play the Copa America (most probably). If I were a player, I wouldn't be so concerned in trying to fit in the way Fernando wants the team to play, because he's not gonna be there any longer, and the one taking charge after him is very well known in the football world, and everybody knows how Carleto wants his players to behave on the pitch. I firmly believe Fernando has the potential to be the manager of the Brazilian national team, but I guess the people at CBF just pushed it way sooner than it was due
Actually, on the flipside, Diniz's tactics allows the players to play more freely with some sort of philosophy in mind. The players individualism and relation to one another is actually a good way to increase the bond and understanding between the players. I think the senior players would rather have that while waiting for Ancelotti to manage them than be bogged down by complex tactical instructions all the time. Think of it as a football holiday on the pitch.
Nah, Ancelotti's contract in Spain finishes after the Copa America, so Diniz is taking them into the competition and then relinquishing the post, supposedly... But I'm hoping the players "get" the system quickly and charm the pants off everybody. The Copa is in the US, imagine all those coaches throwing away their manuals in despair!!!
Both of them are good choices. Diniz is a young manager with a novel style who wants to prove himself, while Ancellotti is a seasoned winner who wants a new challenge. Much better than Tite, who spent most of his career managing average players, repeatedly chosen to manage brazil's unique star squad simply because he's brazillian.
Diniz will stay. The call of Carlo Ancelloti was a bullshit of CBF. They are lying to brazilian fans. And i prefer Diniz than Ancelloti. Positional game, no more!
Excellent video, I think you hit the nail on the head. Aside from Neymar and Madrid Brazilians all of the European based Brazilians are going to be hard wired into doing positional play passes (which totally goes against the whole point of their current style). I think Brazil have huge potential if they build around Vini and Rodrygo. They're club teammates and they'll have that telepathic connection if they keep developing together.
Excellent video! I'm a Fluminense fan, and here we call this style of play "Dinizismo, in reference to Fernando Diniz himself. We call it that way, because in addition to being Diniz's particular style of play, it is also his philosophy of life, which goes beyond the field. His life philosophy is linked to first having good relationships between people, and from that, in his view, a team is built. It also considers solidarity, so everyone defends, creates and attacks. And he also considers it essential that players play happily and without fear of making mistakes, he generally takes responsibility for any mistake his players may make. I hope to have contributed a little more to a deeper understanding of Dinizism.
@@LucasViniciusDeALencar São diferentes. No Flamengo do JJ os jogadores se compactavam no ultimo terço do campo e faziam pressão, porém tinha mta amplitude. Já no caso do Diniz não tem amplitude alguma, ele aglomera os jogadores apenas em um lado do campo. Imagine uma peça de dominó, a do Diniz fica deitada e a do JJ em pé. É basicamente isso.
The influence of the 1982 Brazilian team on Diniz's proposal is clear. In this sense, I think that many people forget a characteristic common to most Brazilian players on that squad: they were ambidextrous. It seems silly, but Cruyff himself already pointed out the importance of this ability for modern football. I believe that the national team's football will improve a lot if the players focus on improving their passing with both legs, passing with the same quality whether with their left leg or with their right leg.
So I do have a question, for you @ThePuristFootball (& anyone). This relationism philosophy for now seems like what can only be executed by attacking sides, I would like to know how this can be applied to a defensive minded side? One team I feel that perhaps tries this approach is Atleti when they switched from a 442 to a 352 (3142) making them to possess the ball but they kept the principles from their 442 system on & off the ball. So is this a possibility for these teams?
I complained about diniz in a previous video of yours, as a life-long fluminense fan. Although there are still some aspects of his play he needs to improve, he has led us to the libertadores semi finals which will be happening next week. It's only the second time we reach this stage of the tournament in our history, and the quarter final games were quite easy for the team. I'm very hopeful Diniz can put us through to the finals with his jogo funcional.
i really dont understand the point of having someone like fernando diniz coaching brazil not because hes a bad manager its cause as u said his play style is so different to what the best brazilians players r used to and he doesnt have much time with them by the next international break they will forget the tactic and the fact that anchelotti comes in a year anyway he will delete everything diniz is working on anyway
As an East African, I always loved the way Brazil played football, especially in the late seventies and eighties. Just take yourself back to 1982 and 86. They entertained the whole world. That is what football should be. I hope Brazil come back and win a world cup like the way they used to. Amen
Could you do one about what Argentina did to win the last World Cup after all those years? I remember when I realized that they were going to be Champions: when Paredes gave two consecutive slide tackles, made a foul on the second and shot the ball on Neatherlands bench... it's a dirty way of playing, but they do stuff like that to impose themselves shaking opponents' minds, something common in the Libertadores Greetings from Brazil!! I'm loving your videos about Diniz. I really hope it works and that us Brazilians are patient enough to let him develop his work with time.
Worth noting Diniz has won absolutely nothing. In brasileirão brazilian coaches are absolutely dominated by portuguese ones. Abel was overlooked for the national team because having a portuguese coach would be too much for the x3nophobic brazilians
ive always believed in joga bonito if diniz is trying to bring that style of play i would much proud of him encouraging the selacao playing how brazil is supposed not by me assuming all brazilians are good tho thats all
Brazil needs defenders who are more comfortable with the ball. Who can ‘pausa’ as well as give forward passes. The attackers and midfielders can hugely profit from this patterns.
I think that a viable option would be to put Nino or André from Fluminense at the beginning of the work, and after Marquinhos and Magalhães are adapted, put them back in the team.
Really appreciate your effort to use brazilian portuguese words to describe a few plays mate. You have perfect understanding of Diniz's play style. It's rare to see that. I think it has a lot of potential. It's usually a play style that players like and when it works it's incredibly beautiful. Congrats, great content.
At 4:30 when you talk about some players instinctively passing to open space, you can see both Brazilian players closest to the ball complaining that it was passed away. I think most of the Brazilian players prefer this relational style.
An interesting thing here is that all schools in Brazil and their millions of children play futsal and football in physical education classes. Not to mention that practically every neighborhood in Brazil has a futsal court or an artificial grass field and scheduling games by renting these courts is common among Brazilians. For example, I play football every Tuesday and Friday with my friends from work and college. This logic of thinking about football for Brazilians through our culture is basically like the Portuguese we speak (totally different in pronunciation from the Portuguese of Portugal), our way of making music, dancing, smiling, all of this is reflected in the way we play football for Brazilians. football is rooted in our culture. It's common for Brazilians to propose to their girlfriends in stadiums, it's common for us to wear our team's shirt under a jacket to work or some event with a dress code. Team symbols and team names are common on streets, bars and public spaces. The way of playing Brazilian football is linked to the way we Brazilians see the world and relate to it and seeing Diniz trying to rescue our inner self that is not Western, is not European and is our cultural school of playing this wonderful sport is beautiful to accompany. Thanks for the video my friends. A hug from São Paulo-Brazil
Brazil is playing English type of football. The worst is it has permiated their football culture. Their u-17 & u-20 is replica of epl. Juego bonito is dead!
Envelheceu que nem leite esse vídeo. O jogo de ontem foi horrível. E eu não sei quem inventou que vini jr, gabriel jesus, richarlison e bruno guimarães são jogadores de seleção.
At the end of the 90s, when all the best Brazilian players were in Europe, I was sad because the national team did not have players from Brazilian clubs, as was the case until the 1980s. I remember saying at that time: "this is not The Brazilian team, this is a European team of Brazilians." Brazil in 1982 was celebrated for its stars and how they played together. Brazil in 2002 was celebrated by individual names only.
I liked the analysis a lot. I agree that we need our own style to combat the European standardization, it's the way we won all the world cups, "sambando com a bola no pé" as they say. Dribbling, fast-paced passes and speed. That is what makes Brazil, Brazil.
Have you actually saw them play? They're horrible, everyone seems to be playing their own game, no team play at all, such a limited National Team since they lack powerful Fullbacks like RC-Cafu or Marcelo-Alves, they play a striker who doesnt shine out of the box, Marquinhos is already past his prime and Maghalaes isnt reliable enough, no one in the brazilian team has the workrates to play a high pressure like Argentina, also Neymar has been so bad, bro ir clearly already past his prime, bro is missing easy through balls and barely combines with the wingers, also while Guimaraes works in New Castle with tonali n joelinton/Longstaff, he doesn't shine with Casemiro, ghosting most part of the match. Brazil should start Paqueta instead of Neymar and definetely look for some Fullbacks cuz Arana-Danilo/Couto are pure trash, even Caio Henrique isnt that good for a Brazilian team, this could change if Samuel Lino doesn't flop
BTW, some is really botering me, in Brasil we don`t use almost never say "joga bonito". It`s was a nike marketing campaing back in the 2000-2010. TWhen we talk about "classic" (brasil 70 oor 82) footbal we usually "futebol arte""
I believe what keeps the Brazilians away from their national team is the Brazilian FA. Expensive tickets, confusing decisions, poor handling of Ultras, corruption and so on...
As Brazilian that is the best way to play football ! Let’s not be Europeans but Brazilian way! We love the game not the robotic formation! I expect a seleção going to be more fluid !
Positional play is king for a reason, it works in maximizing the qualities of the whole team and has produced results everywhere. It would be very crude to try and reduce this debate to a clash between different cultures and national identity. I don't think there is anything inherently Brazilian about being able to do stepovers or playing wall passes or wanting to combine with teammates. Neither is there anything inherently English about being 6 foot plus and tough tackling (e.g. Foden, Grealish, Saka, Sancho, Joe Cole, etc). The idea of positional play is itself the culmination of applying the best elements of football methodologies from across Latin America and Europe. Even though Cruyff claims these ideas as his own original creation - his ideas are the sum of what he has experienced as a player going up against different sides and styles of play. The main cause of the stagnation of Brazilian football imo is down to the amount of money and investment that exists in South America vs Europe. The talent drain is inevitable. If you had more teams that were capable of retaining their youth players, you'd get a much stronger league. This would create the genuine grounds for developing a football ethos that can challenge the conventional ideas and methods in football. Brazilian football is played at a very low intensity, because of the league is a retirement home for players in their mid 30s and 40s. The fact that Dinizmo works in Brazil/ South America is not enough proof that this approach works at the highest levels in football. I'd like to see a new approach to football that builds on the what we currently have. Based on first impressions, there are some glaring problems with relationism. I can see a team like this get torn to shreds by a fast transition team. There are elements that are interesting and worth learning from, but I don't see it working as it currently exists. I dont think this is a fully formed philosophy, I'm sure there are others outside of Diniz who will build on this.
That match against Peru was really telling. If Peru had any half decent and fast wingers Brazil would've lost, the amount of space that Peru had was insane.
This style of play reminds me of how Argentina performed their counter attack against Croatia in the worldcup semi-final '23. Their counter attack was very unorthodox, very narrow centrally, not using width at all, and randomly passing to each other, kind of like the example of relational play in this video. I think it was difficult for Croatia to defend against it, because the movement of Argentinian players were so unpredictable. It wasn't the whole team playing like that tho, just the front 3 (?) players.
This comment doesn’t make much sense, all quick counter attacks are just players rushing and looking for space to receive passes as quick as possible. Basically all successfull counter attacks transition will look like this or just a long and accurate pass to the most forward player. Doesn’t make sense to player run to their position and start to tiktaka for counter attack, lol
There are so many talented players in the Brazilian league, but they usually get snubbed when it comes to the national squad. There's a sense that our soccer is outdated, and that we need to be more European, which is kinda sad.
O diniz ainda esta desenvolvendo esse estilo de jogo, ele é um tecnico muito novo e ainda tem muito o que percorrer, ele ja mostrou que é capas de aprender com os erros e melhorar seu estilo de jogo, se der para ele o tempo certo tenho certeza de uqe ele vai aprimorar esse estilo e vai se tornar um grande tecnico um dia. Abraço
Dia 4 de novembro. Atualiza teu comentário . Fluminense será campeão da libertadores da América. Diniz torna-se realidade. Na seleção, torço pra que continue e dê certo.
The defence is the most important part of his strategy. The CBs need to be brave and skilled enough to carry the ball and pass it when in possession (even attacking if opportunity arises). On the other hand, the extreme counter press leaves them very exposed to counterattacks, so they need to be fully aware of their positioning to either clear the pass or use a tactical foul if needed. The WBs often play inverted as a part of the midfield as to create overloads, which is great when in possession but tricky when out of it.
Greetings from California! Diniz is such a breath of fresh air, he created an interesting style that forces the players to move the ball forward. It is definitely daring and when it works, it works in a way that is very fun to watch.
Dinizismo takes a bit of time to fine tune. Once the National team has a stretch practicing together it will mature and impress the world again. It is bigger then tactical details, it is the essence of Brazilian football.
fluminense fan here. what diniz must improve the most is his making fast adjustments to create direct attacks when opposing teams overload pressure by making 6+ men blitzes. i think you mentioned something in this direction in your video about how circulation isn't always best on a relationist team, but there's a key game vs américa-mg that illustrate this a lot. fluminense suffered a really aggressive overloaded press all first half in this match, and in the second half diniz subbed an extra 9, played a 3 strikers formation and fluminense just beat the press via direct long passes, and it was imo some of the strongest performances by fluminense in second half. diniz needs to create more consistent direct passing routines so his team can make faster adjustments vs press cheaters. i think he's already aware of that because of his new 2-striker formation with Cano and John Kennedy that has been a success so far. also, i would add that it's not true that diniz is a radical relationist as his team does have positional concepts, specially with the wingers keno and arias. i believe you watched the first leg vs olimpia in libertadores where diniz played a 6-man front very positional to beat a stacked bus parked in front of the area. when i watched the past few selecao games, i couldn't help but wonder what would be neymar's career if he had a coach like diniz in his physical prime and i believe rodrygo-neymar-vini will be a terrific deathball of an attack. also, i think diniz benefits a lot from having a very versatile, mobile and switchy 8 (like alexsander), i am interested in watching lucas paquetá under diniz.
CBF is trying to bring Carlo. I mean that is not what i want, Diniz is a better fit for this national team cause he know the players more than anyone and if he and the players combined can make this work then sure, no one is going to stop Brazil.
We were waiting for Acelotti for the position but Diniz is proving to be much better than expected, maybe he can stay in the position, we hope so... Congrtz for the job! great video..
If you really think about it, it was bound to happen. The Brazil style is onordonthox. Now having all of them together being part of the play, it's like creating a rhythm of a song
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CBF bunch of crooks
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Diniz has mentioned in one of his interviews that "Brazil was trying to follow european football style, with positional football and lack of individual plays, style which was developed to play against Brazil in previous decades". This quote itself reveals so much because, why are we brazilians trying to follow this play style instead of improving ours, which has been so successful for so long? Diniz come to Brazil as a light at the end of tunnel, encouraging Brazil's players to go for individual plays, flair, dribbling, fast-paced plays and passes, this is our way of play, this is what brought 5 world cups to us, not pretending to be europeans.
Its pretty simple - a lot of your players play in Europe, where positional play is king. therefore brazilian players are no more brazilian in terms of playing style. As it was pointed out in this video, they have a lot of problems trying to become brasilian again. Unless european football shifts towards more funcional play, brazilian players will forever loose their indentity. Ufortunately.
@@frontdown3249Didn't the Brazilian 1994 World Cup team play a very organised European type of football?
@@frontdown3249 I get your point that playing in Europe makes it harder for the players to follow this kind of style. However, even though they're playing the positional way in Europe, I think it's kinda natural for Brazilians to play the Diniz way, due to growing up playing futsal (in a small pitch, with lots of dribbling and individual plays) for example. I might be mistaken about that, but I hope I'm not hahah
@hectorlesinhovski6494 Well as you saw, it's natural for them to play the European way as that's where they've spent majority of their careers
@@frontdown3249I gotta disagree. Although Brazilian players develop to adapt to European style football, it doesn’t mean that they will have a hard time adapting to their identity. I grew up playing quick counter attack football so I instinctively know how to play counter attack football. However, when I play with a well coordinated team, I have to play more possession based style. It took me a while but I adapted but I’m comfortable with the style that I grew up with. Brazilians, although they develop their careers in Europe, will naturally be able to play Joga Bonito without any issues. Its a lack of talent that can play Joga Bonito that is an issue with Brazilian soccer. However, they’ll be back to destroy football. Its in their blood.
So hyped this is not just a one off and you will be following the journey and keeping us posted!
I am a high school coach in the US, and my Varsity Coach and I want to play pure football like this...high level counterpressing, and then play. Joga Bonito...not automations.
Diniz has inspired us to try and do our own sort of Fluminense up here in Montana. 👊
Very refreshing to read this, man... Keep it up!
An interesting thing here is that all schools in Brazil and their millions of children play futsal and football in physical education classes. Not to mention that practically every neighborhood in Brazil has a futsal court or an artificial grass field and scheduling games by renting these courts is common among Brazilians. For example, I play football every Tuesday and Friday with my friends from work and college.
This logic of thinking about football for Brazilians through our culture is basically like the Portuguese we speak (totally different in pronunciation from the Portuguese of Portugal), our way of making music, dancing, smiling, all of this is reflected in the way we play football for Brazilians. football is rooted in our culture.
It's common for Brazilians to propose to their girlfriends in stadiums, it's common for us to wear our team's shirt under a jacket to work or some event with a dress code. Team symbols and team names are common on streets, bars and public spaces.
The way of playing Brazilian football is linked to the way we Brazilians see the world and relate to it and seeing Diniz trying to rescue our inner self that is not Western, is not European and is our cultural school of playing this wonderful sport is beautiful to accompany.
A hug from São Paulo-Brazil
I'm from Brazil and Fluminense fan, I hope you can really develop your players and show some beautiful football in Montana following Diniz's steps.
Brazilian here, 36, watching football since 92 when Tele Santana's São Paulo FC smashed twice UCL (not true UCL i know) champions. Seleção 82-86 and São Paulo FC highly influenced managers like Guardiola. So what I'm sayin that you might wanna study Brazilian 90s and 00s football bro. Some clubes to watch: São Paulo FC 91-93; Palmeiras 93-99; Corinthians 98-00; Santos and Cruzeiro 00-04. Those clubs managed to be the keystones for 94 and 2002 titles. Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Djalminha, Alex, Vampeta, César Sampaio, Zinho, Mazinho, Flavio Conceição, Mauro Silva, Aldair, Antonio Carlos Zago to name just a few who played for those clubs. They all played mainly in 442 wide/4132/4312/41212. Full backs supported at the same time, two CDMs, two CAMs, 1 SS and 1 CF. Basically it was have 60% posession and do whatever do not LOSE ball.
EDIT: I forgot managers/coaches: Felipão, Vanderlei Luxemburgo and Tele Santana mainly! Those 3 were inspiration to Fernando Diniz football nowadays.
Precisa de um brasileiro veloz no seu time ? Eu aqui ❤
As Argentinian this brings me so much relief and happiness. Our Brazilian brothers needed those tactics so bad... And football itself needed a new Jogo Bonito Brasil ❤
WE NOT BROTHERS
Every chance we got to fuck the shit up of Argentina WE WILL.
@@igorblackpantermove9 Don't be stupid, yes we are! Rivalry does not prevent the opponent from being able to admire our football!
That's a genuine feeling.
@@igorblackpantermove9 Deixa de ser palhaço, seu infantil.
Que las bromas continuem kkkk
Diniz' game feels a lot like futsal.
Neymar, Robaldinho, Ronaldo and so many of our great players started as futsal players when young. And Diniz actually was a profissional futsal player, I believe.
nice take on this, i notice their pattern immediately
always come for pass 1-2 or knows where to do attacking run
its actually (i think) like Pep , attacking box per box (in the field) with many possible players
but yea, will be very hard to implement it because its so much different to europe playstyle
Yes! Mid way through the video I said to myself that this is pretty much how futsal is played. The great Brazilian legends started in futsal.
Not really. Diniz only played for and managed football teams, he had no relation whatsoever with futsal, though I understand the point you guys are making.
@@fabioriato Diniz does have a big connection with Futsal. He was a Futsal player before playing football professionally and actually is said to have been a better futsal player than football player.
It seems he did not play Futsal professionally, though. He went on to play football after being a very appreciated futsal player.
When I made that comment I didn't know for sure his connection with Futsal. But after that, I've seen it confirmed on ESPN Brasil's “Sonho de Menino, com Fernando Diniz” documentary film. Some articles also touch on this matter.
Pele too
It's crazy how Neymar is such a good player, instantly understanding the style (which suits him)
Actually this style doesn’t suit hem, he likes to drible and in this style he has much less space for 1v1. But he is so good that he has other quality’s to impact the game
because he played at the national league, winning everything there. most these other players left before turning 20
Diniz Fluminense has the most dribles in the league, the players aree expected to drible a lot not only in 1v1 but during progression, you often see André (the most defensive midfielder who even plays as center back sometimes) making risky dribles almost in his own area between 2 or 3 oposite players, thats actually where neymar shines more, he doesnt have the explosion he had as young to 1v1 as consistently but havin imense ball control is very important to progress in tight spaces as Diniz teams tends to play @@josiaschaveiro5057
@@josiaschaveiro5057 Neymar would shine in this style as a winger as Fluminense creates many 1v1 situations with Arias and Keno, but Brazil severely lacks a "playmaker" so he has to do it since he's also the best one at that right now.
Neymar would've loved to be born 10 years earlier.
@@josiaschaveiro5057 actually I think he likes playing one-two passes with teammates near him. And it suits him better at his age when his athleticism has gone down. He doesn't need to sprint as much to get pass the opponents when that isn't as much of an objective.
This video aged poorly lol
Como argentino, como amante del buen fútbol celebro que Brazil vuelva a sus raíces y a su juego vibrante y hermoso. Espero que esto sirva para regresar a la gloria al pueblo brasileño y a su fútbol.
You aren't argentinian!
Gracias, hermano!
@@melkinzedeque2775😂😂😂... he is... and he is a good one! :)
tem certeza que vc é Argentino ? parece que não !!!
fijate que lo mismo le sirvio a Argentina para ganar tanto el mundial como la copa america, volver a sus raices y jugar un futbol que se sale del estandar europeo.
Small detail: Fluminense (Diniz’s team) has just won Libertadores (South America’s Champions League)
"South America's Champions League" with technical level lower than the UEFA Conference League.
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Great analysis. Here are some observations:
Bruno Guimarães's first experience as a professional player came in a small club called Audax and it was with Diniz as the coach. He had his breakout seasons later in Athletico - PR where he worked with Fernando Diniz once again. So he can most definitely be a center piece in Diniz's work with seleção and that's one of the reasons.
The players are indeed mostly from europe, where they work in a much different style of play, but in all of his career one of his characteristics has been how fast he can make teams play his signature style. So despite not having much time with the players, I think in a few games we might be seeing the squad more comfortable with his style.
And finally, the biggest question mark regarding his work is the fact that it's not supposed to last long. CBF's president has said publically that Ancelotti will be running the team at the Copa America, so this leaves everybody wondering what's the point of developing such a bold project if in one year's time we'll have a different coach with different ideas.
Loved the analysis, can't wait for the next episodes!
Although the time matters, it is the first time that Diniz gets whatever player he wants with any style he needs. Diniz is not well known as a winner in Brazil, but, we usually attribute this due the financial situation is he's team. This time, the Dinizism is going to be put in real proof.
Because CBF is lying to us, fans! Diniz will stay, if he do a good job. I hope Diniz stay!
That's the question.
Ancelotti = lie
bro this brazil team worst than the manchester united squad lmao. brazil needs to call up talisca . and more players that actually play in brazil. all these european cats dont play for the jersey.
I recommend updating this video, the Brazilian team is playing very badly.
this didnt aged well already
isso ja envelheceu mal
As funcional programing freak i aprove the "functional attack" name very much!
Neymar was having an awful game against Peru until the 90th minute when he assisted Marquinhos' goal. It's crazy how even when having a really bad game he can become decisive in an instant.
Cause the DT of Peru sold free the game to Brasil, in other case, Brasil wouldn’t win that game
It was the same against Croatia! He had so many bad decisions moments but he could score a beautiful goal towards the end!
Neymar is a genius player, definitely one of the most skilled playmakers of all time. He's made bad career choices and is out of shape now, but you can still see glimmers of his potential
@@snakeeater80 against croatia he did nothing, and Peru was using the same tactic of croatia but the DT of Peru simply Broke all of his system in the last 15 minutes and so Brasil wins, basically cause of a Big tactical error
@@caralho5237 neymar prime was in 2016
This is so exciting to see! I’m so bored watching teams try and play so similarly to one another based off of what pep is doing. Great upload! Love this channel
I should mention Bruno Guimaraes was coached by Diniz as a youth player and it was Diniz that promoted him to the professional team in Clube Athletico Paranaense. They have a close relationship, worth looking into btw. So, if there was a single player that would know the coach's book by heart, that would be BG. For sure Diniz will have a hard time changing the mindset players like Casemiro, Rodrigo, Vini Jr, Marquinhos etc, comfortable with what made them champions in some of the worlds toughest leagues, tournaments...
At least I think the Madrid players will be more flexible because of Anccelloti's style. Already this season with the arrival of Bellingham he's having Vini and Rodrygo leave the touch lines and drift a lot more than last season.
Real Madrid players will be the easiest to adapt since they follow a similar philosophy of play under Carlo Ancelotti.
Second game showed where growth was needed but the potential is crazy, I hope they stick with Diniz
They're hiring Ancelotti next year.
@@byhilliard I don't think they should. Deniz is on to something great
@@Beanskiiiideveríamos sim
Ancelotti also plays in a functional / relational style, but less radical and innovative as Diniz’s, also more balanced defensively, with less use of high blocks, defending in a more medium block. Maybe even better for a Knock-out cup competition
@AlSpaniard6 whether he accomplishes anything will determine whether what he's doing is great or just a novelty with false promises that won't be successful.
The Brazilian team of 1982 had certain things in their favour which is radically different from their current situation and that Zico, Falco, Socrates and Eder all played their football IN Brazil. That being said Diniz and his methods of training is the absolute way forward for Brazil’s team to return to the Beautiful Game once again.
The posicional playing method is perfect for Japan and other asian contries.
Brazil needs more than anything is to be in a great psychological state. This has been lacking in recent WC eliminations.
Stay calm, relaxed and having fun in the dance of football. Nossa bagunça organizada!
for real japan would thrive in it
É mui difícil o Brasil sair dessa, só se abandonasse o evangelicalismo.
Yes
@@alvarohigino Que que tem a ver.
@@alvarohiginoAchei curioso o seu ponto. Disserte, por favor.
Seu canal é muito bom, será um prazer ver suas analises da seleção brasileira e do Diniz. Saudações do Brasil!
I'm a Brazil fan from Bangladesh.
Please in your 2nd part, talk about defense and off-the-ball strategy of Fernando Diniz.
Brazil conceded a ugly goal vs Bolivia thogh scored 5 goals.
When the payers stay closer instead of remaining wide, one small mistake can bring a counter attack, isn't it? Fluniese defense is not the best in Brazilio SerieA.
And, What's happened to Richarlison in Brazil squad. Richarlison is struggling in tottenham as well. But in Tite's Brazil, Richarlison was shinning.
All the players are used to play in european regular style. Can they cope up with a new style all of a sudden? Though all of them are prefessional.
As a Fluminense supporter, Bolivia's goal was a classic "Fluminense fumbling and conceding a goal" by lack of attention. It'll happen a lot before they get it together. They shoudn't give that much space to opposing players and be really quick to retrive the ball or make a foul to stop the attack. It's one of the reasons André and Nino are really high regarded by Fluminense. Bummer they weren't tested in these matches but Diniz probably already knows what they are capable of and want to impose his style to the others first. Can't wait the world to see the crazyness of taking a RB/LB and putting a winger or CF when the team is not winning against Argentina making a midfielder the new RB/LB.
About Richarlison after the World Cup, not sure if it's psychological problem. The lack of goals making a pressure that makes him play worse or something else. He does not deserve to be a starter or even called right now. I would like to see Vitor Roque or someone new for the position.
I think Brazil is literally the only team in the world who'd love the freedom of individual accountability and flair.
However I'm very curious about off the ball tactics as well. Its clear the European style don't work for Brazil.
I think in a high intensity team like this they really need a strong backline to support the attack, which Brazil just doesn't have at the moment.
Richarlison revealed that he is experiencing family problems after discovering that people close to him only wanted to take his money
Yes. His 2020-21 São Paulo team is an exemple of how bad his system can be and how easy it is to score on his defenses, losing a championship they led for almost the entire year. His whole career has been like that, he is not qualified for the job.
Neymar's rapid adaptation to Diniz's football philosophy can be attributed to his roots in futsal, which fundamentally shaped his approach to the 11-a-side game. This background has endowed him with an innate understanding of the game, particularly suitable for dynamic and skill-focused styles like Diniz's. This approach naturally favors players with an element of unpredictability and flair in their play. However, it raises the question of how this more spontaneous, skill-oriented method will fare against a disciplined, positional strategy, especially when faced with rapid counter-attacks.
I do believe that this philosophy if uphold by the Brazilian federation, will for sure bring back highly skilful and a joy to watch players.
I'd appreciate if you analyse Leverkusen under Xabi Alonso! They seem to play a mixture of positional play and relationism, in a highly fluid system. Definitely interesting to me and successful as well :-)
Modern day mobile rondo throughout the pitch. BRILLIANT! Will be easier to implement at club level vs national team when the players come together infrequently.
Sim, leva tempo. Ano passado o time dele (Fluminense) não era tão letal e vertical como em 2023.
Its natural for Brasil players
Soudi and qatar needs huge investment in Brazilian clubs which will alow Brazilian players to get better salary so they won't go to Europe
exactly, since the teams tend to build around their new marquee players, the style of play can be inherently relational, like how Al Nassr is building around Ronaldo. His team under Luis Castro plays beautiful relational football now. More Brazilian talents = more beautiful football that their fans like. The European teams except Real Madrid don't use their Brazilians the right way anyway.
It seems like this style is more natural. Go towards the ball and move forward. Play through the defense instead of around it. That's classic Brazil.
I like that this style is such a contrast to European Football. I feel like it's a shame that Ancelotti seems to be coming in the next year. I feel like sticking to Diniz and letting him build on this project is much more exciting.
To be fair, if there’s one current great European manager that you’d want to continue Diniz’s style and pretty much not change a working system (assuming it becomes successful for Brazil), it’s Ancelotti. He’s not obsessed with tactics.
Another fantastic video on one of my favourite topics, looking forward to you covering more! Up there with Tifo irl for one of the best right now, keep it up!
I´m so glad that we Brazilians take our own approach. Not anymore the European style.
Sou torcedor do Fluminese. Ver os jogos é algo prazeroso. Diniz tenta resgatar o futebol criativo, forte e eficiente. Ele encoraja seus jogadores a acreditarem na vitória.
Esse estilo potencializa nosso futebol e nossos jogadores. Temos um estilo próprio que já ganhou 5 copas do mundo.
Parabéns pela excelente análise do estilo Diniz de futebol.
Your future coverage of the Brazilian NT will be very interesting, not only for the analysis but also because of the rather... questionable, way CBF is handling the coach situation.
Since Ancelotti will supposedly take over after having Diniz for a year I can't help but wonder, if Dinizismo works wonders for the Seleção, will Ancelotti try and adapt his coaching style to this new reality, or will he simply ignore it and have the team be closer to what we have at RM, which is not completely positional but certainly not the Diniz style either?
It could work fine. Since most players play on positional style teams, having some experience with Diniz' style and then going to something that is in-between could prove very beneficent.
I like the experiment that Brazil is doing and I hope that maybe Brazil will sign him permanently if they don't sign Ancelotti.
Because of you I knew this "weird" way of play. I watch some Fluminense match and its so refreshing and fun to see.
as a Brazilian, I love the ideal of football Fernando Diniz defends, even though he's kind of underappreciated, and sometimes ridicularized (by the other teams' supporters) for not having won anything relevant for big clubs in his coaching career yet. But I must say I don't like the way his situation at the Seleção is being conducted. As an interim manager, for a year, so that Carlo Ancelotti can take the reins in 2024 to play the Copa America (most probably). If I were a player, I wouldn't be so concerned in trying to fit in the way Fernando wants the team to play, because he's not gonna be there any longer, and the one taking charge after him is very well known in the football world, and everybody knows how Carleto wants his players to behave on the pitch. I firmly believe Fernando has the potential to be the manager of the Brazilian national team, but I guess the people at CBF just pushed it way sooner than it was due
Actually, on the flipside, Diniz's tactics allows the players to play more freely with some sort of philosophy in mind. The players individualism and relation to one another is actually a good way to increase the bond and understanding between the players. I think the senior players would rather have that while waiting for Ancelotti to manage them than be bogged down by complex tactical instructions all the time. Think of it as a football holiday on the pitch.
Nah, Ancelotti's contract in Spain finishes after the Copa America, so Diniz is taking them into the competition and then relinquishing the post, supposedly... But I'm hoping the players "get" the system quickly and charm the pants off everybody. The Copa is in the US, imagine all those coaches throwing away their manuals in despair!!!
Isn’t Ancelotti kind of hands-free when it comes to organizing offensive tactics tho? maybe some of what’s diniz is teaching will stick
Both of them are good choices. Diniz is a young manager with a novel style who wants to prove himself, while Ancellotti is a seasoned winner who wants a new challenge.
Much better than Tite, who spent most of his career managing average players, repeatedly chosen to manage brazil's unique star squad simply because he's brazillian.
Diniz will stay. The call of Carlo Ancelloti was a bullshit of CBF. They are lying to brazilian fans.
And i prefer Diniz than Ancelloti.
Positional game, no more!
Excellent video, I think you hit the nail on the head. Aside from Neymar and Madrid Brazilians all of the European based Brazilians are going to be hard wired into doing positional play passes (which totally goes against the whole point of their current style).
I think Brazil have huge potential if they build around Vini and Rodrygo. They're club teammates and they'll have that telepathic connection if they keep developing together.
Excellent video! I'm a Fluminense fan, and here we call this style of play "Dinizismo, in reference to Fernando Diniz himself.
We call it that way, because in addition to being Diniz's particular style of play, it is also his philosophy of life, which goes beyond the field. His life philosophy is linked to first having good relationships between people, and from that, in his view, a team is built. It also considers solidarity, so everyone defends, creates and attacks. And he also considers it essential that players play happily and without fear of making mistakes, he generally takes responsibility for any mistake his players may make.
I hope to have contributed a little more to a deeper understanding of Dinizism.
Pra falar a verdade eu to achando esse estilo de aproximação igual o do flamengo de Jorge Jesus.
@@LucasViniciusDeALencar São diferentes. No Flamengo do JJ os jogadores se compactavam no ultimo terço do campo e faziam pressão, porém tinha mta amplitude. Já no caso do Diniz não tem amplitude alguma, ele aglomera os jogadores apenas em um lado do campo.
Imagine uma peça de dominó, a do Diniz fica deitada e a do JJ em pé. É basicamente isso.
The influence of the 1982 Brazilian team on Diniz's proposal is clear. In this sense, I think that many people forget a characteristic common to most Brazilian players on that squad: they were ambidextrous. It seems silly, but Cruyff himself already pointed out the importance of this ability for modern football. I believe that the national team's football will improve a lot if the players focus on improving their passing with both legs, passing with the same quality whether with their left leg or with their right leg.
Great to see Brazil going back to it's own brand of BRAZILIAN football!
Joga bonito, perde feio.
So I do have a question, for you @ThePuristFootball (& anyone).
This relationism philosophy for now seems like what can only be executed by attacking sides, I would like to know how this can be applied to a defensive minded side?
One team I feel that perhaps tries this approach is Atleti when they switched from a 442 to a 352 (3142) making them to possess the ball but they kept the principles from their 442 system on & off the ball.
So is this a possibility for these teams?
I guess you could play it on the counter with very mobile defensive mids, like in th-cam.com/video/RURksn__rtU/w-d-xo.html
You could also analize Bielsa's Uruguay, I think it's a match made in heaven with all that young talent coming up. Great content as always!
Hopefully ! Uruguay could have done so much better in the last World Cup, the manager held them back so much.
Brazil and Uruguay will play next 17/10
Ver jogo do Diniz é lindo, desde que ele não treine seu time...
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achei otímo! não torço pro fluminense...@@Gustavo-nm3eu
Ganhou Libertadores. Chupa anti
@@Rodion1993 achei ótimo! não torço pro fluminense...
chupa anti kkkkk que idiota@@Rodion1993
"How Fernando Diniz is transforming Brazilian Football.. " Brasil 1 x 1 Venezuela
I complained about diniz in a previous video of yours, as a life-long fluminense fan. Although there are still some aspects of his play he needs to improve, he has led us to the libertadores semi finals which will be happening next week. It's only the second time we reach this stage of the tournament in our history, and the quarter final games were quite easy for the team. I'm very hopeful Diniz can put us through to the finals with his jogo funcional.
i really dont understand the point of having someone like fernando diniz coaching brazil not because hes a bad manager its cause as u said his play style is so different to what the best brazilians players r used to and he doesnt have much time with them by the next international break they will forget the tactic and the fact that anchelotti comes in a year anyway he will delete everything diniz is working on anyway
As an East African, I always loved the way Brazil played football, especially in the late seventies and eighties.
Just take yourself back to 1982 and 86.
They entertained the whole world.
That is what football should be.
I hope Brazil come back and win a world cup like the way they used to.
Amen
Could you do one about what Argentina did to win the last World Cup after all those years? I remember when I realized that they were going to be Champions: when Paredes gave two consecutive slide tackles, made a foul on the second and shot the ball on Neatherlands bench... it's a dirty way of playing, but they do stuff like that to impose themselves shaking opponents' minds, something common in the Libertadores
Greetings from Brazil!! I'm loving your videos about Diniz. I really hope it works and that us Brazilians are patient enough to let him develop his work with time.
His tactics worked out great in the game against Uruguay... ( for Uruguay ; )
Worth noting Diniz has won absolutely nothing. In brasileirão brazilian coaches are absolutely dominated by portuguese ones. Abel was overlooked for the national team because having a portuguese coach would be too much for the x3nophobic brazilians
ive always believed in joga bonito if diniz is trying to bring that style of play i would much proud of him encouraging the selacao playing how brazil is supposed not by me assuming all brazilians are good tho thats all
Brazil needs defenders who are more comfortable with the ball. Who can ‘pausa’ as well as give forward passes. The attackers and midfielders can hugely profit from this patterns.
I think that a viable option would be to put Nino or André from Fluminense at the beginning of the work, and after Marquinhos and Magalhães are adapted, put them back in the team.
Hahaha quebrando todos os recordes negativos na Seleção kkk
Really appreciate your effort to use brazilian portuguese words to describe a few plays mate. You have perfect understanding of Diniz's play style. It's rare to see that. I think it has a lot of potential. It's usually a play style that players like and when it works it's incredibly beautiful.
Congrats, great content.
At 4:30 when you talk about some players instinctively passing to open space, you can see both Brazilian players closest to the ball complaining that it was passed away. I think most of the Brazilian players prefer this relational style.
I think Diniz will have to select players more accustomed to his style of play rather than just shoehorn all of Brazils superstars into his system
An interesting thing here is that all schools in Brazil and their millions of children play futsal and football in physical education classes. Not to mention that practically every neighborhood in Brazil has a futsal court or an artificial grass field and scheduling games by renting these courts is common among Brazilians. For example, I play football every Tuesday and Friday with my friends from work and college.
This logic of thinking about football for Brazilians through our culture is basically like the Portuguese we speak (totally different in pronunciation from the Portuguese of Portugal), our way of making music, dancing, smiling, all of this is reflected in the way we play football for Brazilians. football is rooted in our culture.
It's common for Brazilians to propose to their girlfriends in stadiums, it's common for us to wear our team's shirt under a jacket to work or some event with a dress code. Team symbols and team names are common on streets, bars and public spaces.
The way of playing Brazilian football is linked to the way we Brazilians see the world and relate to it and seeing Diniz trying to rescue our inner self that is not Western, is not European and is our cultural school of playing this wonderful sport is beautiful to accompany.
Thanks for the video my friends. A hug from São Paulo-Brazil
Diniz é a maior mentira no futebol.
Brazil is playing English type of football. The worst is it has permiated their football culture. Their u-17 & u-20 is replica of epl. Juego bonito is dead!
This haven't aged well. And it has been only 1 month.
Yes ,this haven't aged well😂😊
This is literally how I used to play in Fifa, but later on I started trying to emulate how teams played on TV😂
😭🤣🤣
Envelheceu que nem leite esse vídeo.
O jogo de ontem foi horrível.
E eu não sei quem inventou que vini jr, gabriel jesus, richarlison e bruno guimarães são jogadores de seleção.
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK Joga bonito pra caralho, empatando com a Venezuela
E perdeu kkkkk
It’s about time, after Barca’s tiki taka, there’s only been few bursts of good football
At the end of the 90s, when all the best Brazilian players were in Europe, I was sad because the national team did not have players from Brazilian clubs, as was the case until the 1980s. I remember saying at that time: "this is not The Brazilian team, this is a European team of Brazilians."
Brazil in 1982 was celebrated for its stars and how they played together. Brazil in 2002 was celebrated by individual names only.
Diniz & Neymar could /should work
I liked the analysis a lot. I agree that we need our own style to combat the European standardization, it's the way we won all the world cups, "sambando com a bola no pé" as they say. Dribbling, fast-paced passes and speed. That is what makes Brazil, Brazil.
Samba é meu ovo.
I was hoping to get Deniz at Spurs after Conte left, I'd love to see this style in the premier league. Can't wait to see how Brazil develop.
He can't speak English. That's a big deal to me.
@@luizarthurbrito English is not a hard language. He can study one year, and move to PL.
For me this style doesn't work against big teams who know how to defend high and deep in a compact block.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO i was waiting for your video since his debut
Fernando Diniz está recuperando o que sempre foi nosso futebol...jogar bem bonito e vencedor...
Have you actually saw them play? They're horrible, everyone seems to be playing their own game, no team play at all, such a limited National Team since they lack powerful Fullbacks like RC-Cafu or Marcelo-Alves, they play a striker who doesnt shine out of the box, Marquinhos is already past his prime and Maghalaes isnt reliable enough, no one in the brazilian team has the workrates to play a high pressure like Argentina, also Neymar has been so bad, bro ir clearly already past his prime, bro is missing easy through balls and barely combines with the wingers, also while Guimaraes works in New Castle with tonali n joelinton/Longstaff, he doesn't shine with Casemiro, ghosting most part of the match.
Brazil should start Paqueta instead of Neymar and definetely look for some Fullbacks cuz Arana-Danilo/Couto are pure trash, even Caio Henrique isnt that good for a Brazilian team, this could change if Samuel Lino doesn't flop
BTW, some is really botering me, in Brasil we don`t use almost never say "joga bonito". It`s was a nike marketing campaing back in the 2000-2010. TWhen we talk about "classic" (brasil 70 oor 82) footbal we usually "futebol arte""
I believe what keeps the Brazilians away from their national team is the Brazilian FA.
Expensive tickets, confusing decisions, poor handling of Ultras, corruption and so on...
My team, Vasco da Gama beat Fluminense by 4-2 yesterday lol
That’s what Ancelotti did last season(or similar) so him going to Brazil end of his contract is really good for the Brazil national team
As Brazilian that is the best way to play football ! Let’s not be Europeans but Brazilian way! We love the game not the robotic formation! I expect a seleção going to be more fluid !
I like it, but it will be hard to implement with the limited time he gets with the national team.
Positional play is king for a reason, it works in maximizing the qualities of the whole team and has produced results everywhere. It would be very crude to try and reduce this debate to a clash between different cultures and national identity. I don't think there is anything inherently Brazilian about being able to do stepovers or playing wall passes or wanting to combine with teammates. Neither is there anything inherently English about being 6 foot plus and tough tackling (e.g. Foden, Grealish, Saka, Sancho, Joe Cole, etc). The idea of positional play is itself the culmination of applying the best elements of football methodologies from across Latin America and Europe. Even though Cruyff claims these ideas as his own original creation - his ideas are the sum of what he has experienced as a player going up against different sides and styles of play.
The main cause of the stagnation of Brazilian football imo is down to the amount of money and investment that exists in South America vs Europe. The talent drain is inevitable. If you had more teams that were capable of retaining their youth players, you'd get a much stronger league. This would create the genuine grounds for developing a football ethos that can challenge the conventional ideas and methods in football. Brazilian football is played at a very low intensity, because of the league is a retirement home for players in their mid 30s and 40s. The fact that Dinizmo works in Brazil/ South America is not enough proof that this approach works at the highest levels in football.
I'd like to see a new approach to football that builds on the what we currently have. Based on first impressions, there are some glaring problems with relationism. I can see a team like this get torn to shreds by a fast transition team. There are elements that are interesting and worth learning from, but I don't see it working as it currently exists. I dont think this is a fully formed philosophy, I'm sure there are others outside of Diniz who will build on this.
That match against Peru was really telling. If Peru had any half decent and fast wingers Brazil would've lost, the amount of space that Peru had was insane.
What you call relativism, or functional attack, here we call Dinizism 🇧🇷 😂. The Dinizism has started (O Dinizismo começou)
This style of play reminds me of how Argentina performed their counter attack against Croatia in the worldcup semi-final '23. Their counter attack was very unorthodox, very narrow centrally, not using width at all, and randomly passing to each other, kind of like the example of relational play in this video. I think it was difficult for Croatia to defend against it, because the movement of Argentinian players were so unpredictable. It wasn't the whole team playing like that tho, just the front 3 (?) players.
This comment doesn’t make much sense, all quick counter attacks are just players rushing and looking for space to receive passes as quick as possible. Basically all successfull counter attacks transition will look like this or just a long and accurate pass to the most forward player. Doesn’t make sense to player run to their position and start to tiktaka for counter attack, lol
Are you crazy, after 2 games with one of the worst teams in South America. I can believe.
Just got schooled by Uruguay, who actually has a coach with strategy. Brazil looked lost, uninspired, porous.
There are so many talented players in the Brazilian league, but they usually get snubbed when it comes to the national squad. There's a sense that our soccer is outdated, and that we need to be more European, which is kinda sad.
O diniz ainda esta desenvolvendo esse estilo de jogo, ele é um tecnico muito novo e ainda tem muito o que percorrer, ele ja mostrou que é capas de aprender com os erros e melhorar seu estilo de jogo, se der para ele o tempo certo tenho certeza de uqe ele vai aprimorar esse estilo e vai se tornar um grande tecnico um dia. Abraço
Dia 4 de novembro. Atualiza teu comentário . Fluminense será campeão da libertadores da América. Diniz torna-se realidade. Na seleção, torço pra que continue e dê certo.
This video aged badly. Deservingly so. Diniz does not understand the idiosyncrasies of being the coach of a national team.
The defence is the most important part of his strategy. The CBs need to be brave and skilled enough to carry the ball and pass it when in possession (even attacking if opportunity arises). On the other hand, the extreme counter press leaves them very exposed to counterattacks, so they need to be fully aware of their positioning to either clear the pass or use a tactical foul if needed. The WBs often play inverted as a part of the midfield as to create overloads, which is great when in possession but tricky when out of it.
This video didn't age well, when Brazil can't beat the weakest team in south america: Venezuela.
statistically speaking the weakest is bolivia.
@@necromax13historically not.
@@si.1317 History barely matters in football. Current form is supreme.
Greetings from California! Diniz is such a breath of fresh air, he created an interesting style that forces the players to move the ball forward. It is definitely daring and when it works, it works in a way that is very fun to watch.
Dinizismo takes a bit of time to fine tune. Once the National team has a stretch practicing together it will mature and impress the world again. It is bigger then tactical details, it is the essence of Brazilian football.
*_Nosso futebol é cultura, criatividade e momentos de oscilação_* .
im Flamengo fan (Diniz team’s rival) but I really hope to see Diniz football philosophy thrive!! This looks like football I always knew and admired.
fluminense fan here. what diniz must improve the most is his making fast adjustments to create direct attacks when opposing teams overload pressure by making 6+ men blitzes. i think you mentioned something in this direction in your video about how circulation isn't always best on a relationist team, but there's a key game vs américa-mg that illustrate this a lot. fluminense suffered a really aggressive overloaded press all first half in this match, and in the second half diniz subbed an extra 9, played a 3 strikers formation and fluminense just beat the press via direct long passes, and it was imo some of the strongest performances by fluminense in second half. diniz needs to create more consistent direct passing routines so his team can make faster adjustments vs press cheaters. i think he's already aware of that because of his new 2-striker formation with Cano and John Kennedy that has been a success so far.
also, i would add that it's not true that diniz is a radical relationist as his team does have positional concepts, specially with the wingers keno and arias. i believe you watched the first leg vs olimpia in libertadores where diniz played a 6-man front very positional to beat a stacked bus parked in front of the area.
when i watched the past few selecao games, i couldn't help but wonder what would be neymar's career if he had a coach like diniz in his physical prime and i believe rodrygo-neymar-vini will be a terrific deathball of an attack. also, i think diniz benefits a lot from having a very versatile, mobile and switchy 8 (like alexsander), i am interested in watching lucas paquetá under diniz.
CBF is trying to bring Carlo. I mean that is not what i want, Diniz is a better fit for this national team cause he know the players more than anyone and if he and the players combined can make this work then sure, no one is going to stop Brazil.
*empata con Venezuela*
We were waiting for Acelotti for the position but Diniz is proving to be much better than expected, maybe he can stay in the position, we hope so... Congrtz for the job! great video..
kkk 1x1 contra a venezuela
he should choose players from the brazilian league
If you really think about it, it was bound to happen. The Brazil style is onordonthox. Now having all of them together being part of the play, it's like creating a rhythm of a song