Could fighting in northern Mozambique destabilise the region? | Inside Story
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- Government forces in Mozambique are fighting to regain control of a remote area in the north.
Soldiers are trying to push back ISIL-linked fighters in Cabo Delgado province, a resource-rich region.
The fighters have taken control of the port of Mocimboa da Praia near offshore gas projects.
Over the past three years, monitoring groups say more than 1,500 people have been killed.
Will other countries need to intervene to stem the violence?
Presenter: Imran Khan
Guests:
Tom Bowker - Editor of the Mozambican news website Zitamar.
Zeinado Machado - Researcher in the Africa Division at Human Rights Watch.
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As a South African I think it's our duty to help our siblings in Mozambique.
Disagree , we need to help our selves first, SA is becoming Zimbabwe number 2, so how can we help ?
@@seangeldenhuys773 of course a whitey would claim this. Is there a white genocide hmmm?
We have the best military in Southern Africa and we have NO need of it here. I'm wondering what YOU think we should be using it for instead of helping in an actual military conflict - y'know, where soldiers are supposed to be used.
@@caimaccoinnich9594 Are you dumb or what ? how can a corrupt government and bankrupt country help another country. You are so far from the reality in SA , weapons are stolen from our military bases on a monthly basis. Now we must send them in to help fight Isis, how dumb ?
@First Name Last Name why because she disagrees with you? Are you the supreme authority on reality and how the world works?
If war start in Mozambique only neighbours will feels this problem
Especially Zimbabwe and Malawi because they use our harbor
What a sound, calm and informed lady. Nice interview, even the other gentleman was greatly
Dear west ....just because of GAS???????????????France USA Britain why why
The analysts are useless, the question should why Isis target mineral rich countries but multinational companies can still operate.
In business anything can happen thru negotiations so far what companies are up to is profit. They don't care. If govt fails its people any group may gain power in any means and sit round table for negotiation.
Agree, bet They are not analyzing, they are propagandizing.
@Peter Keller Turkey was a gateway. If at all the oil was exclusively Turkish the hue and cry would have been deafening!
Any fighhhht in a country is due to bad leadership
Because if things are going on well there will be no riot
If their is no religious confcold or imposement there will be no violent
I cry shame to somg our African leaders
And shame to some of the masses who allow the politician to use them as wheeling tools
A big disgrace to thise corrupt arm of government that fall for money and forget their families and friends in the villages
Any religion that is planning to expose his believe on others need to stop it else God wi) fight them
Because no man. Fight for. God
All is politics
And is aim to hold power .
OMG Zimbabwe south africa Namibia botswana let's intervene before they attack us
Relax , because Zim is the next one
I totally agree with you.
it’s just a coincidence that Mozambique had just found huge reserves of natgaz...just like Qatar...
It’s obvious that this is about resources
Why are terrorists are always were the oil and mineral resources are.
Tanzania army won’t let those hooligans do that, watch the space!
Peter Keller Do you know the proximity to where they are and where Tanzania Southern boarder is? Actually they infiltrated the southern region of Tanzania and the army has already been sent to deal with them.
@Peter Keller lol I'm so glad somebody said it
To fund their terrorism.
Never declare your new findings in your explorations until u start drilling.
I am a mozambican and the problem of Cabo Delgado CANNOT be the one of regional assymetries. For starters the neighouboring province of Niassa, is way poorer than what Cabo Delagado is. It is a province that hasn't significant mineral resources (which are a good source of income to local people), is away from the ocean (therefore people cannot practice fishing except the ones that live around Lake Niassa) and it has little to no development. In contrast, Cabo Delgado is a thriving province that has mineral as well as energetic resources in abundance, it has a proper land for agriculture, it is a coastal province among other things.
Aside from Niassa, there are provinces that are even more poor than Cabo Delgado which is the case of the Province of Gaza located on the southern part of Mozambique.
The main problem in Cabo Delgado must be the one that every subsharan country that discovered huge reserves of energetic resources faced. War profiteering. People are trying to make a profit out of war. Simple as that. This is business as usual.
This problem is being caused by western interests (definetly france and usa). The general idea is to vandalize the country, remove the population from the local area, minimize the country benefits while the project is being developed, end up bringing a foreign security force to "protect the area" and allow uncontrolled looting of resources when the gas pumping starts. As for Mocimboa da Praia port, these oil companies need this port for their operations, thats why they want to seize with violence. People say that the terrorists want to destroy the gas project, and come up with these usual western excuses of islamic terrorism, poverty and government negligence of the youth, etc. But the true that matters is that the project project facilities are up in the north, but have never been attacked by the terrorists. The attacks occur all down south that area. The only attack occured once in a village located 7km from the gas project. But on the following day, the oil companies had on contractor clearing the area and setting foundations for their additional facilities. So, this so called terrorists are "servants" of these oil companies! Thats why you are 3 years and nobody of these "western terrorists" has come to claim their intentions or demands!!
Thankyou 👏🏿👏🏿. The ones responsible for this massacre of our people is USA and EU. They are colonising SADC.
This interview was filled with mumbling. No question answered just propaganda of bad govt. may they enjoy their steaks
The SADC or AU should send troops to drive out such people than to wait for Russia and US oil mongers.
Iam Mozambican But I feel that some important people have a hand in it.
I said i think...
U nailed it thus true
Absolutely my brother
Someone in our government
Who?
@@allysoobratty7565 The government guys
Can you explain further. Trying to understand what's going on from the Mozambicans themselves
Such a shame, Mozambique is such a beautiful country.
But of course, thanks to socialism, the country is dirt poor, and is going nowhere. I mean how does an army run out of ammo ffs? African countries that gain independence and cleave to socialism just go backwards. Most of Africa is in the same position, everywhere is fukked, everyone is poor, no formal employment, most live below the poverty line. It's just a vicious circle, mostly due to corrupt governments who keep the population uneducated, it's just too easy for an armed rag tag gang to cause havoc, because the armed forces are a joke, poorly trained and poorly equipped ... Think carefully about who you vote for
You forgot to mention how Europeans negatively take advantage of these terrible leaders throughout the continent and essentially bully them to take their resources...maybe America and western Europe should STOP with the proxy wars...just my two cents
@@ilijeganu273 I think the 'bullying' comes in the form of bribery. Let's be honest about this, and most African 'leaders' are mostly disgustingly corrupt and only there for the money and power trip, after all the 3rd world country's are pretty much all in the same poverty boat with masses of uneducated and unemployable people for this very reason, Europe and the western world aren't to blame for every woe of the 3rd world
@@wendyburrows4178 actually the West is ALWAYS the root cause of Africas problems. The West kills strong African leaders like Gadafi for example. Lybia had zero debt, free healthcare, free education and little to no crime. Gadafi was going to make a central currensy for Africa using gold but the French and Hillary Clinton had him killed. Same case in America, the gov kill strong leaders like Malcolm X and Huey P Newton.
@@ilijeganu273 also, believe me, no authority in this country is "bullied" into doing anything. They're bought into doing things if you can afford them. And believe me, they're very expensive. You have clearly never been to Mozambique, lol. Very naive.
Bitter truth!
Why multinational companies not affected in such cases.The answer is multinational companies bring wt them tetrorists to protect their stacks
They dont bring terrorists. They employ private security companies.
You did not mention that ' ISIL ' has threatened South Africa with insurgency due to involvement. South Africa is facing economic collapse !!! We have enough to deal with at home......unless you like NAM !!!!! VIETNAM
Mozambique doesn't stand a chance against South Africa.
Nonsense South Africa will never be like Zimbabwe. The western mafia ( EU, us) is trying though
Terrorists will be anywhere , if oil is there 💥
Ohh really then why they r not operating in qatar, UAE rich oil fields
Mozambique doesn't have a professional army but militia
So stupid
Time goes by without any address or action by the UN.
The un is a total waste
Useless UN
Sad for our country....
Stop shifting blame!....pull up your socks as a nation, how can an army run out of ammno
Silly you. After a devastating war the country demilitarized as a signifier of peace. Remember Germany. Other than international interference, regionally we were good no need to be a threat to anyone.Leave us be go then were you fully armed.
Condolences to the families of the killed
Unfortunately very soon a military base will appear belonging to NON AFRICANS the conditions of the bases will be control of the GAS
There is surely big guns involved. Minerals are a curse to poorly run societies
There is a foreign hand here. This is a common story in Africa. Who is arming these Bandits?
Such circumstances as any war zones in recent history, shown it takes 2 and 3 generations of children to even begin to forget such horrors of human Greed ... So sad, there is wealth for all.... School's, hospitals, work, homes and infrastructure. We truly live in troubled times.... I pray this ends favourably for the people's ... Thom in Scotland.
Africa is a difficult continent to understand I m tired of this continent sickness. They are 54 countries yet e few number of mercenaries can destabilize the whole country. Africa if you don't wake up You will sleep for good.
The Government of Mozambican people simply have to have conversation with the groups ,and find out their aims are.
Please please stop the wars now
The Government cannot develop and planning employment business investment management is( None) ???????? Think Positive
Africans please stop these Traditional culture tribalism meet communities leaders and hav conversation
When people have food on the table worries will not be in their heart
Please start having conversation instead of taking up aims
Please let have peace and ues the resources which the country has to bless your people
Have conversation with the companies operating in the country to have conversation with the groups, otherwise how long are you going to be subjected to these issues and your people are not at peace????????? Stop using aims for protection .
Love you country and your people outsiders do not hold you and your people Africans at heart ♥
Thank you
Will the fighting ever stop on this continent?
It surely could and would cause so much destruction
Watch Blood Diamond and pay close attention to the sceene where the mercenary and the the guy that hid the stone come across the the old man in the burnt down village. Pay good attention to the short dialogue that goes on... that's unfortunately been the story in Africa if there is a valuable asset at play.
Think he says "God help us if they find oil" Our riches is a curse
@@mzansipatriot9710 Not the riches but the people that manage them
Zim army should simply go do a good job in there as they did befote there and in DRC.
Zimbabwe cannot afford a military deployment right now. Last time we went to Congo and it was costing us over 1millionUSD a day. I think South Africa should take a lead on this one.
@@thomasmbiba5558 I doubt we SAns are ever gonna get involved. Our Army has been facing budget cuts for some time now, plus Phillipe Nyusi insisted they want to handle the matter on their own as Mozambicans
minute 5:00 the commentator bite his tongue cause in his speech he has to say islamic terrorist, yes, what those are, but he is on islamic television so he change the word, shame
Who is really behind those attacks? Who is financing them? What is it that they want?
Why the government can't negotiate with their people and address their concern? You can allow them to be a federal and control tax collect and get involved in all contract negotiation in their area
The same people with the same ideology everywhere!!
The weak will always be punished. Vladimir putin.
It's very unfortunate that Mugabe is now late. He would have sent his army to assist the people of Mozambique, unlike other SADC leaders who are just standing by and watching
Mozambique is the country coming from long time civil war and his economic have been terrorized with it
An empty discussion.
What's with all the close up shots of a building that clearly collapsed 20 or more years ago?
With the benefit of hindsight, most of the stuff this guy said was wrong -- Total's natural gas base was attacked in March. More recently history and background of insurrection in Cabo Delgado has been written. If he is specializing in Mozambique, why couldn't he offer more insights?
Now you should call those mad sick ppl ISIA not ISIL
HHHHHHHH
ISLAMIC STATE IN AFRICA
Mozambique government has failed those pipo that's why they are fighting to freee themselves from marginalisation. It has nothing to do with SA Zim whatsoever
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Loff Fonseca, Lisbon. I lived in Mocimboa da Praia and Mueda for some years. Dived islands of coral superb beauty..
This problem has to do with inequalities and government abandoned areas in the north.
People of Mozambique is friendly and marvellous.
No. This is ISIS. They have stated their intent to take over the world. To do this they need oil, strategic minerals. This part of Africa is very rich in these. They are going to go after Zim and SA, then Angola. They will be able to take over Africa, they have been going from Sudan to West Africa for years and now that they were defeated in Syria, they have shifted their main efforts to Africa.
The West had better take note and help. It is nothing to do with marginalisation. These countries have been under self rule for over 25 years, now. It is the Islamists.
WHAT HAPPEN TO BLACK LIVES MATTER ?WHERE ARE THEY ,WHEN BLACK BROTHERS ARE KILLING OTHER BLACK BROTHERS?
Who is financing these groups?
There may be local legitimate grievances against the government that doesn't need international involvement. Name calling is not the solution
No it's America and UK creating terrorism there. Creating something similar to boko haram and al shaabab which all use US and the weapons from the west
Oil oil oil
Africans need to read the book “ confessions of an Economic Hitman.”
Terrorist not fighter
North Mozambicans must continue fighting for their Independence, it is their right. Next time it's gonna be West Zimbabweans fighting for their Independence.🏋️🏋️amaaaaaaandla
What is WRONG with these African countries where the Leaders have done very little to enhance the life style of the African people since they took over the countries in Africa. Zimbabwe, Mozambique, and other countries may have their freedom but they have no life. Always conflict. Even in South African is going downhill.
This is the kind of news you people like to spread, how about the good news from all over Mozambique?
Please the sadc must by all means get involved in bringing assistance to this country. We don't have to see what happened during 80's civil wars has nothing good but killing the civilians
Yes we must help them one the person can help Eben Barlow
Engagement of local people when making business deals
Between governments and foreign companies might. Solve these problems not specific Mozambique but the continent at large
The qeustion is, what weapons do ISOl use. If it is Russian then the rest of the world should put sanctions against them.
What starts broken...
I hate zim army
Scary... When did Africa turn to something like this....
Y African
Please don’t bring the Tom Bower on yo programme- he doesn’t make sense to any one
so islam means peace?Well it seams to be a lovely place.
terorrism can be from any religion, but most importantly, no religion encourages terrorism including Islam. Sad how some terrorists actually using the name of religion and stained it using the bloods of the victims. My heart goes out to the oppressed people 🙏🏼
I hate the comment traying to defend that is a local issue.
"Excluded people are joining the fight to express their unger."
We are Mozambicans discontent or not we can never destroi our own houses, infra and etc. Please tell us the truth or don't ever talk about us. You are daiverting people's attention to the real truth.
Exactly real Mozambicans tired of war. Do not come to peoples countries and cause mess
Take the war to the international an left the American out
That journalist is traumatized,Tom...
South Africa we not to deploy our forces on our borders
Ataques armado em muidumbe
This lady is out of topic...
this is just a load of bull.
Shame on you
Al-Jazeera a biased chutiya channel
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