The 5 Haunting Tales of These Tragic Royal Ghosts | Anne Boleyn | Mary Queen of Scots |
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- At this time of year, you probably think of ghosts and spooks - but what about the stories behind those spirits? Some of the most Tragic include Anne Boleyn, Mary Queen of Scots, Catherine Howard, George III, and the Princes in the Tower. Here we look at the story behind five of Britain's most tragic royal ghosts, and delve into the tales of what happened after their deaths...
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We wanted to spend a night in a haunted castle. Unfortunately, we visited England and Scotland in March, and apparently The Ghosties were out of season until April…
@@cindiloowhoo1166 Don't you just hate it when the ghosts don't fit into your schedule? I suppose they save their best bits for October! 😂
I thought I saw the ghost of a drag queen, but realized it was just my nephew playing in powder and his mother's old wig he found in the bottom of the closet. Does that count?
@@Bmoregirl85 I suppose it depends if it was terrifying or not! 🤣
I have always loved English history. So I loved your shoes.
Catherine Howard breaks my heart. That's so horrible a fate... an eternity of panic and terror 😭
As you say, if it's true, it's a horrible moment to have to relive! They do say walls hold memories, and I think Hampton Court would definitely have seen its fair share. Hopefully it's not real and she rests in peace.
@@HistorysForgottenPeople Yeah maybe it's just her pain left there and she's in a good place. That Henry... I'd like to whomp him one good time.
@@colormetakenaback Me too I dare him to behead me LOL I am faster with an axe I will remove his urm little Henry! LOL
@@aprilgosa5779 Hahaha I'd pay to see that! Wish we could both time travel back and get revenge on Henry! I'd put him on the rack and give him a science/genetics lesson 😆😆
Yep to be honest I feel sorry for any woman that married Henry the 8ths
I remember going up the stairs of Bloody Tower, and it got more and more oppressive and everyone got quieter and quieter, it was very eerie. You could almost feel all the negative emotions and terror that had been felt there.
I felt a chill down my spine when you said that! The whole Tower of London, especially more used areas like the Bloody Tower, have so much history weighing them down. Whether or not there really are any spirits doesn't take away the sense of all that, as you say.
Back in 2000 I visited the Tower..such a cold dank oppressive place
You get the same feeling at Utha and Omaha beach. One of them is so quiet, you can barely hear the waves and birds. Like the calm before a major storm.
I saw Anne Boleyn at a window at Hampton Court in 1977 when I was 12.
Wow, that's amazing!
I kind of love the idea that Queen Elizabeth I and King George III meet up in the library for a chat! Maybe joined by Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip now?!
I imagine the halls would be rather crowded by now, lol!
I was standing in the hallways at Hampton Court talking to my cousins and telling them about Catherine Howard; while we were standing there I felt a cold chill and the hair on the back of my neck stood up and I got goosebumps but it didn't scare me. I asked my cousins if they felt a chill and they said no but they saw the goosebumps on my arm. I smiled and said that was Catherine's way of saying hi and thanking me for remembering her. I took pictures with flash and got a weird figure in it. It was amazing.
That's a really cool story! I certainly think that even if ghosts don't really exist the way we think they might, old places always seem to keep something of the people who were once there.
Ngl This made me cry 😭
Omg 😳 the fact you didn't got scared 😰
They are! My grandpa died on my birthday bc of a stroke and he talks to us
My mother is still with me fifty-one years after her passing. She'd pull blankets up to the shoulders of my children, I frequently smell her perfume, and I feel her arm over my shoulders when I cry. She's not going to leave any time soon and that's alright with me.
Poor King George III, he suffered so much in a time when doctors didn't know how to help him. His death was very slow. The other in this also suffered tragic ends but they were much quicker.
It's true, he certainly suffered for a long time. It's made more sad by the fact that he was probably one of the better royals, both as a family man and politically. His son who came after him was the complete opposite!
Pity he went blind from cataracts, nowadays corrected by an hour long procedure at the ophthalmologist.
Yes. Another tragic case of a complex person who had a sad death. If only modern medicine had come sooner. 😢
He caused a fair bit of suffering himself especially what he did in Ireland...karma...
Agreed..king george iii was very articulate that turned to losing his mind because too much info in his mind..overthink..sadly there's no cure on that time that is painless..
Jane Seymour is also reported to haunt Hampton Court. Apparently she can be seen making her way from her room to the royal nursery.
I didn't know that one! Hampton Court seems to be a very busy place. I'm going there this summer so I'll keep an eye out!
@@HistorysForgottenPeople Very cool. I'm not sure if you'll be able to see Jane however since the room she allegedly gave birth in is closed to the public.
Also I find it odd that Anne Boleyn is never spotted at Hampton Court. Do you think it has something to do with Jane Seymour allegedly being there?.
@@fanficnerdnerd6758 Maybe! I'll let you know if I see two Tudor ghosts having a fight in the corridors, then we'll know. 😂
Fun facts Queen Elizabeth II has reportedly also seen Elizabeth I walking near the library in Windsor along with Prince Phillip also seeing her inside the library at Windsor l both sightings were separate times
I heard that one! 😀 Also, I think Elizabeth II's father, George VI said he saw Elizabeth I for eight consecutive nights either during or before the outbreak of WW2 - can't remember which. I'm very sceptical, but there must be something to it with all the constant sightings.
Prince Phillip better her than that Camilla woman! Yikes! LOL she scares me in life! LOL I'm sorry I could not resist LOL oh we knw he famously told Diana that he and Elizabeth the 2nd cannot understand why their son would choose that woman over her ! LOL
@@aprilgosa5779 oh jeez. Get over it. Camilla is a much better match emotionally, and physically for Charles. They've always seemed really in love. I've been following the story since I was a young child (I could easily access and read gossip rags). Diana was emotionally unstable. Her fake suicide attempts and attention seeking behaviors were probably annoying to Charles
@@rachelbachel2nobody ‘fakes’ a suicide attempt. WTAF. I guess they haven’t learnt anything from Diana with the ongoing treatment of M&H. People like you enable that kind of behaviour!
Wow really. I didn't know that.
I Can Easily Imagine That One Day, Someone Would See The Spirits Of Queen Elizabeth II And Prince Philip In The Corridors Of Windsor Castle.
Mary, Queen of Scots, also is reported to haunt Tutbury Castle in Staffordshire
She does turn up in a lot of places!
She absolutely loathed Tutbury, shabby and run down even in her day.
It’s a beautiful ruin now, but a small part of the castle remains. King Charles l haunts it too xxx
The ghost tales are indeed interesting, but mostly, I enjoyed the historical back stories!! Happy I’ve found a new channel to watch.
Thank you, it's great to have you here - I'm glad you enjoyed them. 😊 The ghost stories were mostly because this was one of my Halloween specials, but there was no way I could let the backstories of the 'ghosts' not be mentioned when they're so fascinating in their own right!
I feel sad for the 2 boys poor souls 😞
It is sad that there has never been any resolution to their story, I agree.
The ladies who the king didn’t bother to look at should feel so grateful smh.. make being a queen sound like a true nightmare in some of these cases
That's how I feel as well! I would have been ecstatic to have been unattractive to the king in the Tudor court. Not that I'm convinced many of his wives returned the sentiment, even if love is blind...😂
@@HistorysForgottenPeople 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I am binge watching your videos they are so gooooood.
@@Lovingitjuju Aww, thank you, that's very kind! I'm pleased you're enjoying them. 😊
@@HistorysForgottenPeopleWell, in the old days, one has to do whatever possible in order to survive, but I agree. I would've been pleased not to get caught up with King Henry Viii, especially during the last decade of his life. 😅
@@PrincessQ-fj9ly "Quick, he's coming! Mess up your hair and make-up and run!"
This was so enjoyably entertaining! Combining their actual lives with stories that abounded after their untimely deaths! Given this, it's morbidly uplifting hearing stories of apparitions of each, takes a bit of sting out of their deaths or murders, signifying that their final chapters of their lives, shall be completed by them, not their death dealers! I'm still smiling after viewing and as I'm typing. I'm watching it again! 💕 Thank you for the telling, I'm subscribing...immediately! ❤
Thank you so much! I'm so glad you enjoyed it, this one was a lot of fun to make. 😊 Whether or not their ghosts are real, I think it's testament to their lives just how much people wanted there to be something more to them after their deaths. I especially loved the story about King George looking out and saluting his soldiers - there was something so peaceful and sweet about that, somehow.
@@HistorysForgottenPeople definitely liked the King George story myself! No one ever speaks about his compassionate nature or the fact that he ruled with astuteness, when he was able! Loved his story of window gazing outward and waving back! 😄 Very good one! Thanx again
Tip my hat to you. Really interesting video. Will watch again. Women are great storytellers and it boggles the mind to think they have been underused as Historians for so long.
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it! 😊
Mankind stop evil because this world is not permanent. People are so heartless like they will live forever. Greedy and selfishness make people do every evil to their fellow human beings. Thanks for sharing.
i don't know why they say that red stain won't go away. There is nothing left of it. I have personally looked for it multiple times. I guess it just makes a good story
I’d love to meet the ghost of George the third. He was a fascinating man
He definitely seems to be one of the better rulers we had in terms of personality and his morals - it's such a shame he had an illness the way he did.
@@HistorysForgottenPeople yes medical scholars to this day debate the cause of his illness, however, none debate the scope of his incredible intellect.
The boys in the tower were actually in an episode of black butler, the anime. Also the White Princess, tv show, mentions teddy “Edward” being secluded in the tower and later killed to establish legitimacy for Elizabeth York and Henry VII’s reign as well as being a condition for the marriage of princess Catalina (Catherine of argon) to their oldest son Arthur. It also later has a whole plot about the boy who showed up claiming to be one of the princes.
AponiTheWolf:Could u give me details please?I am for The White Rose.Have u heard the idea that Edward was spirited away to the west country,to live his life in peace on his half brothers estate.Inwould like to know more about that,but it's all gone quiet.
Borthwick Castle is my ancestral home. It was featured in at least two episodes of "Men In Kilts".
It's a beautiful ancestral home!
I often wonder how much of what is going on in the world is because of the decisions of Henry the 8th he made so many changes that had serious repercussions
It's true - the more you look at history, the more you realise how long-reaching every decision in history is. Like when people say, "When did the ... begin?" the answer could sometimes go back a few hundred years depending on what led to it!
Poor Katherine Howard, she didn't deserve her fate. Henry should have just sent her and Culpeper away.
It was a very sad end for such a young person. It was all based on the fact Katherine had committed treason, however, as it was cheating on the king - anyone else in the land it would just have been 'adultery'. The implication was if she got pregnant with Culpeper, she could have pretended it was the king's child, and that had all sorts of implications.
@@HistorysForgottenPeopleStill, most men these days would've just gotten a divorce. If only divorce wasn't so frowned upon back then and if only double standards didn't exist. 😒
It's my understanding one can find Ann Boleyn wandering around Hever Castle holding her head.
Nice balance between telling vivid ghost stories without actually claiming ghosts are real!
Poor Anne Boleyn, framed and executed!
She definitely was!
Fun Fact: Apparently, Mary, Queen of Scots' third husband is also a royal ghost. Lord Bothwell is said to haunt Dragsholm Castle in Copenhagen, Denmark. It was the last place of his imprisonment, where he was chained to a pole for the last 10 years of his life. Apparently, people have seen him and/or heard his screams coming from the dungeon where he died.
Bloomin' heck! I would really want to be the tavern keeper if I had to go back and live int he past. Keep my head down, serve the beer, not get into trouble. 😂
You forgot she was married to the Dauphin before Darnley and Bothwell. So 3 husbands.
@@ChristChickAutistic oh thank you, sorry for that 😅
I really enjoyed this, the stories are not only tragic but sad
Sadly, they are! I did like the story I came across of George III though, waving to his troops. That seemed quite a benign, happy way of reappearing as a ghost, as opposed to poor Catherine Howard.
It was a horrible violent time in history. Life meant little.
I really loved this program. I felt so sad and piteous for the two young Princes of the Tower.
But,really, it was a terrible,brutal age.
If Henry had had enough faith in Divine Providence, quite a few women would have lived nice long lives.
Indeed! Or if he hadn't been worried about the lineage of the Tudor dynasty due to his father's shaky beginning of it, too.
@@HistorysForgottenPeople I suspect the family was cursed to not have any more generations after Edward, Mary, and Elizabeth.
Thank you for this documentary. Are there any other royal ghosts that inhabit any place in Britain other than the ones in this documentary? I am looking forward to others. Catherine Howard just breaks my heart. Her's an eternity of panic and terror.
I think there are others! I just went with five (six!) of the more well-known ones. We've got a lot of castles and once-royal residences, so I suppose they build up over time!
I have not been to any places where there are royal ghosts, but I have seen and felt ghosts in places that I have lived and visited. Most have not had any effect on me, but I could feel evil at one place I visited and wanted to get away from there as quick as I could.
This was great. Thank you for such quality!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😊
@@HistorysForgottenPeople I do enjoy listening on how you narrate, such soothing voice you have!
New subscriber here. Thank you, Miranda, on presenting a thorough research work. Stay well Xx
Richard III was the only one who had the power to have King Edward V and Prince Richard murdered.
Nobody else had that type power, he was a Power Hungry Monster!!
You're right in that he is definitely the most likely suspect! The only sticking point for me is this - why not make it public? It was public knowledge Edward V's doctor had been to see him, and so Richard could easily have said, "Oh, they died from an illness! What a shame." He then could have publicly shown the bodies and no one would have thought anything, really. The fact he didn't suggests one of two things; either he really didn't know, or it was a very, very botched murder which meant the bodies couldn't be shown publicly, which really doesn't bear thinking about.
I'm actually going to do a video in a couple of weeks about the Princes in the Tower to look over all the possible suspects! Done before, I know, but I find it very intriguing. 🤔
@@HistorysForgottenPeopleProbably because they were still kids and he didn't want to get in trouble for killing or failing to protect two kids, especially if one of them was the king.
I love hearing abt Royal History,,so that I too joined this channel!!
Thank you, it's great to have you here! 😊
Poor King George, he lived a long time by their standards and so plagued by illness.
It's a very sad story - I suppose the good parts are that he had a supportive, loving wife who tried to help him as much as she could (both personally and politically, when personally got too much), and was well-liked by the public.
@@HistorysForgottenPeople yes, I didn’t really know much about him other than the “ madness” as I’m more interested in Tudor history but I think I’ll go down a new rabbit hole tonight! Thank you ♥️
@Bella82 You're welcome! I love finding new rabbit-holes to go down in history. 😊
@@HistorysForgottenPeople me too! X
Britain is the Haunted country because of their past history
Darnley was Mary Queen of Scots 2nd Husband not her first that was Francis
He certainly was - thank you for spotting that! I'll see if I can edit it. Sometimes I do make a silly error.
@@HistorysForgottenPeople
No worries ~ Mary had a rather complicated life…
Reign is the reason I know this
Just found your channel!!! So happy that I did!!! :)
Awww, thank you! Glad to have you here! 😊
Lambert Simnel didn’t impersonate one of the princes, but Edward Plantagenet, Earl of Warwick
Yes, I intended to mean they were impersonators of those close to the crown, but worded it wrong. I'll edit the video to reflect this. Thank you for spotting it!
@@HistorysForgottenPeople 😊 thanks for a great video and for keeping us interested with your engaging manner.
@@Chipoo88 Aw, thank you very much! 😊
Poor anne boleyn she did not deserve that death at all just because she couldn't give him a son
Agreed, although I consider all six of his wives to have been his victims, in one way or another.
I never understood why he didn’t just divorce her.
@@kerraptregolls4929 It's a good point. He didn't divorce her, I think, because when he 'divorced' Catherine of Aragon, that was on the grounds of her having been his brother's wife. Divorce didn't really exist like it does now, so it was more a way of saying 'the marriage wasn't real' rather than a separation of an existing state that was valid as we would understand it now. (Of course, Catherine always saw it as valid and argued the fact she was his dead brother's wife before their marriage didn't matter, as the Pope had already given his go-ahead for them).
With Anne, he didn't really have anything other than 'I was already married still to Catherine of Aragon', and if he went with that, he would have made his earlier argument and whole stance about being Head of the Church of England null and void. So his only option to be rid of her was to accuse her of something so heinous - like treason - so that he could just kill her off. That meant he could legally still marry someone else now Catherine of Aragon was dead, without giving up his stance on the Church of England.
Especially considering it was most likely his fault that his wives miscarried, and had daughters instead of sons.
@@HistorysForgottenPeopleMe too. By far, the biggest victims are Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard.
Your voice is soothing. I could listen to your voice reading to me on video about adventures from a novel you picked out.
Aww, thank you! That's very kind of you to say so. 😊
Henry caused so much suffering.
No arguments here!
All of these tragedy that has happened in past of the royals has now passed on to Queen Elizabeth's family so sad it's a curse it will never stop until the British people step in and stop all the hatred and lying so sad 🙏
This is actually when I was in London in 2017. I did not expect these feelings and sensations that there were many souls (ghosts)on the streets and underground in the metro. It was a very strange feeling, a feeling that people had been killed especially women killed for unknown reasons., and I felt ghosts when I went on the streets.
Death of the body, doesnt kill a strong spirit.
Or a weak one for that matter.
Nope. These stories are proof of that.
Doesn't kill any spirit, we just move on
Great history video I enjoyed it can't wait to see more soon. Have a great day greetings from Canada 😀
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it. 😊
The trouble with Henry 8 is that his little head did all his thinking
Very interesting video
Thank you! 😊
Years ago, I had a frightening encounter with King Henry VIII in the flesh! His body smelled and he used a lot of cologne in an attempt to disguise the odor. In addition, most of his teeth were rotten. Even though he was wearing modern clothes, I knew who he was instinctively and he called himself Henry. Initially, he showed up in the doorway outside of my office and started asking me questions. Then, he started waiting for me outside of my office building for my arrival early in the morning. I did my best to get away from him by entering another entrance. Eventually, he left me alone and went away. I will never know why he chose me for his sudden and unexpected appearance.
Even beyond the grave, he's on the hunt for another wife! 😂You did well to get away from him. (In seriousness, I hope this wasn't real as that's awful, no matter who it was!)
Oh shoot. Henry got reincarnated and is hunting for a wife. I hope all women evade him. He had his tries and failed horrifically.
Did you know beforehand that Henry DID stink from abscesses on his legs? Reputedly, his smell preceded him before he arrived in a room. He also had a sweet tooth and no doubt rotten teeth.
King George 3, wasn't crazy. He was very intelligent and understood more than most knew at.the time.
He did have a physical problem ,. Queen Victoria also had it,. It wasnt known or understood in early 1700's.
He certainly was a very intelligent man. However, something did effect him in later life in terms of the decisions he made, but there is still debate over how much of that was his illness versus the treatments for his illness, or even if it was simply exposure to something in his environment.
He's believed to have suffered from porphyria, which would have affected his mental health.
@@HistorysForgottenPeople Inbreeding will do that to a person.
Sadly George III’s later life was plagued with mental illness. He didn’t even know his beloved wife Charlotte predeceased him. It’s sad because I heard he was one of the better kings.
Probably porphyria. Gradual deterioration.
There are three equally possible sad dates for the Princes in the Tower.
Outcome one Richard 3rd killed them. My problem is why go through the trouble of delegitimizing them it makes killing them almost moot. It would have been simpler to claim the outbreak of sweating sickness and them having died which was not unusual for the times.
The convulsed story of them contracting sweating sickness is what happened. Richard fearing no one would believe that simply hid their accidental deaths.
Third possible outcome is that they were sick and could not be brought out in public and one or both of them lived up until the battle of Bosworth. Henry Tudor or his supporters need Elizabeth of York as the York heirs to strengthen his claim and the uniting of the Houses or else 20yeats later Lizzie's son would be fighting him for the throne. If the boys were alive at this point Henry Tudor or his supporters disposed of them.
I could see any one of them being true.
😮
As you say, while Richard III seems the most obvious suspect on the surface, why not simply claim the boys had died of an illness? It was known they were seen by Prince Edward's doctor, and it's certainly possible. If they did die during this period, my money is on Buckingham, who also had a lot to gain.
Henry Tudor certainly had a lot to gain from their deaths, but the question is raised of how he could have got to them - even his own mother couldn't have easily gained access.
I suppose there is also another possibility, that of a botched escape? It had already been attempted once, and it's possible the boys could have been accidentally killed during a second escape attempt. This would explain the silence from all major figures involved, as they wouldn't know what had happened either. There's no proof for any of that either, of course! 😅
@@HistorysForgottenPeople it is possible that they were ill and not dead until after Bosworth. Henry twice bastarded claim to the throne was weak and he needed Elizabeth to draw Yorkish support from Richard. If they were alive and Henry had re legitimized them their claim to the throne would be stronger than his and His wife's combined. Then they would eliminate them. There was no real proof they were dead or alive.
Delegitimizing them lets Richard III claim the throne all the sooner. Once they’re no longer legitimate, they would still be figures for a revolt-I’m sure there were many who didn’t believe they were illegitimate. As long as they lived, Richard’s throne was at risk. They had to die.
Richard didn’t have to murder them personally. All he had to do was suggest what a nuisance it was that they still lived in front of a supporter of dubious conscience. I absolutely believe Richard was responsible for their deaths, deliberate or otherwise-and absolute monarchs are rarely above having threats eliminated when necessary.
Such political intrigue and murders, etc.!
Honestly, I don't know how any of them had any time for running the country! 😂
I imagine living in these castles would be like living in Hogwarts! Ghosts everywhere 😂
*in four-poster bed, trying to sleep* "Keep the noise down! Some of us still have living to do tomorrow!"🤣
Can you do a video about Mary Queen of Scots?? Thanks
She's on my list for a video at some point! 😊
out of topic but, i think mary of scotts dresses are glamour and elegance tho
I LOVE the one of her in the red/pink dress. I am a little jealous of that dress! 😂
It was so awful about the Two Princes of the Tower. My best guess as to who ordered the dreadful deed is their Uncle Richard III.
Richard III was the only one in the kingdom who had the position and power to order the murders, plus the
motive for it,too.
Yes,he had the motive but by that horrible act proved he was a total moral
Psychopath.
I mean they were but two innocent childreñ,after all, but it was a very brutal age.
What can I say?
I dont know that i believe in ghosts as such - but my late aunt often saw all sorts of figures from the past during the many visits we did to British historical sites. But i think strong emotions and tragedy somehow get imprinted in such places - a bit like video recordings - a permanent record of negative vibrations that somehow replay to those sensitive enough to tune into them
Very interesting the ghost of George the 3 rd and the ghost of Elizabeth the 1 st were talking to each other
Cruel Times!
I feel very sad for two young boys
I believe Henry Vlll was a true,clinical psychopath. He really didn't have to kill two of his wives.
He could have just exiled them for life from England and their noble families could have supported them in whatever country they eound up in and just have
legally divorced them so he could marry some other poor victim.
He was the king and his word was law.
He was just a cruel,quite evil man.
He had a lot of his people killed.
He got permanently rid of most of his
Plantagenet relatives, includin an old lady
who was no danget at all to him,Margaret Pole.
It is estimated also he ultimately had killed ovrt 70,000 of his own dubjects.
I even think he was even more murderous, if it is possible than Richard Iii.
You forgot when they lifted her red dress to pick up her body after her merciless murder her little Yorkie came scurrying out from the dress which horrified m even more that poor baby ts mommy was just murdered
I believe that was Mary Queen Of Scots, she wore a red dress to her execution.
@@maryhaynes8633 the color of martyrs
Does anyone have a clue what happened to Anne Boleyn’s famous necklace?
The most we know is that it was probably passed onto Elizabeth at some point, but has since become lost. Has happened to quite a few royal jewels!
It became the property of Henry VIII (since she was convicted of treason) and it might have been broken up and made into other jewels, sold, or given to Elizabeth, as you can see her wearing a similar necklace in portraits.
@HistorysForgottenPeople it seems that things from queens end up at Christie's,like mary queen of Scots prayer book she had at the time of her beheading,how it got there,I don't know.i emails them saying it should of stayed in the cabinet at Hollywood with the little amount of things she owned,but they just say what's going to auction.for the many relatives still around,me being one of them,should be there us to see,would like to see how it gets to Christie's and who's doing it.
Never heard one story of Elizabeth the first ghost
I did include a small anecdote about her in George III's story, as he apparently saw her, but I didn't really feel her death or life really fitted into the 'tragic' element of the others I chose.
Sometimes a spirit will stay attached to places, even without great tragedy and violence. Something they cared about deeply, with complete dedication of their life, that even in death they keep their own vigil in its existence. To that end, I could see both Elizabeths staying spiritually attached to their country.
I love learning all I can about Henry 8th wives.
You might enjoy a series I'm starting in a few weeks then, on his six wives!
@@HistorysForgottenPeople I will definitely watch that series.
12:43 two strokes, actually
I don't know who needs to hear this, but Mary Queen of Scots had nothing to do with Darnley's death...
Well, there's evidence pointing both ways for suspects of his murder, and unfortunately we can never actually the proper answer. What I will say is that it would have been a monumentally stupid risk to take had she really been involved with his death, and his death was much more convenient for others in her court rather than Mary herself. There were some things that pointed to her having some knowledge of the plot, but that could easily have been fabricated.
Most historians agree that the prime suspect for Darnley's murder was most likely the Earl of Bothwell, James Hepburn. It was a flagrantly dramatic death with an explosion - if you're a king or queen planning to bump someone off without being implicated, you do it quietly. But the part that is less easy to discern is whether Mary had any knowledge of what was going to happen or not. I think she did not have knowledge of it, but I also think she didn't mourn Darley's passing as much as she might have pretended - that certainly doesn't make her the murderer.
Henry viii ended up overweight and sore ridden
it's been said he was diabetic,true
He certainly could have ended up with Type 2 diabetes, we know his diet wasn't very healthy in his later years!
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Yeah thanks,oh theres a documentary on here i saw that says Henry viii was probably suffering type 2 diabetes near the end of his life
Plus STD.
@@HistorysForgottenPeople True. This was a time when they had just gotten sugar and other delicacies from the New World, and they were indulging in it for the first time, making crazy sugary concoctions. So they didn't understand the long-term effects that sugar could have on the body. Plus he drank lots of alcohol and ate a lot of fatty meats. Veggies were peasant foods.
@@unikkornsplus, while in his youth, he was active and athletic and burned calories, after his accident, he was more sedentary, less fit,less active, more hedonistic and ate and indulged even more. Couldn't cope with aging and the inability to make sons that lived and never took ownership of mistakes or accountability or learned.
I thought Darnley snd rizzio were together
As far as I'm aware, the only rumour was that of Rizzio being a lover of Queen Mary's, but of course there may have been other rumours too!
By the by, a bit unrelated, but what would your (HFP’s) list of “favourite to least favourite wife of Henry VIII” go?
Ooh, I like that, it's a good question. Least favourite, if I had to choose, is probably Jane Seymour first, on the VERY unfair and flimsy basis that she didn't seem to do much of anything beyond having a son - that's not to say I don't like her.
After her is Anne Boleyn - very clever lady and apparently very kind, but she was the reason a legitimate wife was put aside.
Next would be Katherine Howard, again only for having done one silly thing and being a bit of a teenage airhead - again, doesn't warrant having her head cut off!
Next would be tough...maybe Anne of Cleves? Again, I actually really like her but she's next as she didn't get a chance to do much. She was a very sharp lady though, happy to 'change' her religion when necessary, and outlived the others!
Katherine Parr after that, I think. She wasn't afraid of an argument, but was also charming enough to get away with it regarding Henry. Also, she wrote a few well-known books for the time, which is impressive.
I think my favourite might be Catherine of Aragon. She never gave up her claim as queen and rolled over, and also never stopped fighting for Mary's rights. Also, from the day Mary was born, the way she was tutored and educated makes it clear her mother always saw her as queen one day. She also advocated education for women, which made it fashionable for decades after. Her downside for me is that she always maintained she loved Henry, although one hopes she was saying that only to strengthen her position.
I just realised I answered your question backwards, sorry! 😂 It's been a long day. Just read it in reverse!
@@HistorysForgottenPeople Haha no problem! I have to agree- Katherine of Aragon is my favourite- She was a most loyal and devoted wife and mother (as you said, maybe a bit too much). But I think she was too forgiving a person to not forgive Henry, she does seem to have loved him even after their annulment. Mary I was also a forgiving person by nature, I guess she got it from her mother 🤷♀️ But she wasn’t the simple “loyal quiet wife” many make her up to be- she was clever, and courageous! How she rode into battle in 1513 (I might be wrong in the date :,) and won, heavily pregnant, goes to show her strength as much more than a wife and mother.
I also agree with Anne being low- she’s actually the one I like the less-. As you said, clever and brave, but, to my eyes, a bad person. Even if we are extremely sympathetic and believe she wasn’t the reason Henry annulled the Aragon marriage and that if she hadn’t been the replacement wife it would’ve been someone else (which I personally disagree with), she was extremely cruel to Katherine and specifically Mary :(
For me it goes (1- favourite 6- least favourite)
1 Katherine of Aragon
2 Katherine Parr
3 Jane Seymour (for her role in restoring Mary to Henry’s favour and for not being mean to Elizabeth like Anne was to Mary)
4 Anne of Cleves (she and Jane sometimes switch positions)
5 Katherine Howard (I feel for her but like the others more)
6 Anne Boleyn.
@Ælfgifu I think that's good reasoning! And I'd forgotten about Catherine of Aragon riding into battle, that's definitely another impressive thing that goes in her favour! 😊
I think probably Jane Seymour, because she gave him his son and she died soon after, so Henry couldnt blame her for anything nasty.
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Is Catherine Howard a residual haunting
I honestly don't know (I had to look up what a residual haunting was, which shows you what I know!), but if it is real in any way, it certainly does sound like it's the same event happening over and over, sadly.
To catch the eye of a king is a poisoned chalice, ask Princess Diana.
Oy Vey, already!
Prince Charles was just that, a Prince. They should never have married in the first place. Prince Charles was “strongly encouraged” to get on with it, get married, and produce an Heir.
Diana’s unfortunate, early demise was due to stupidity and a series of dumb choices.
Prince Charles had nothing to do with the car accident; high speeds, DUI driver, no seat belt and ditching security did.
I still think she was assassinated. Poor Diana.
I thought the bones were DNA tested and the results were animal mix/inconclusive ( 20:00 minute mark)
No, they haven't been DNA tested yet, although apparently King Charles has said he's happy for it to be done at some point. (I think you might be right in that there were some animal bones thrown in there as well). In the late 19th/early 20th century an autopsy was done on the bones, and the conclusion, if I remember rightly, was that the bones were too big to be the boys as they were probably the bodies of two teenagers. Although that opens up more questions than answers!
@@HistorysForgottenPeople Thanks!
I wish they'd DNA test the body of John Evans to see if he was Edward V in hiding.
The music is very distracting.
I'll bear that in mind for future videos.
She stuck her nose into church and politics, while she should have kept it out!
Well....in her defence (I assume you're talking about Anne Boleyn?), it was normal for queens to take an interest in politics, so that was fair enough. But her interest in religion was a dangerous one - in the past, queens were simply pious because there was only 'one' religion, and having two was always going to be a recipe for disaster. Interestingly, Anne's interest in Protestantism only increased after she married Henry VIII, so I wonder if it was a case of her being encouraged by him, so she thought it would be good to go full throttle? If she had given birth to a son or two, I doubt it would have been as much of an issue, personally.
What went through her mind .for crying out loud.she had been.murdered.damn kings n queens.abort the whole idea.
Those skeletons are the boys. Who else?
Well, it's possible they are someone else, the Bloody Tower has had a lot of residents.
Too many other options, without definitive proof.
Don't keep saying Richard killed the princes in the tower, there is no proof of it
I haven't actually said that, I've stated who the suspects for the murder are.
Ignore Tracy. She's from one of those Richard the Third fan groups.
Cromwell wasn't even in town when that stuff happened. Please do better than yellow journalism history.
It's well documented academically that Thomas Cromwell was involved in bringing Anne Boleyn down, whatever his personal feelings about it. After all, he was a servant of the crown, and did as he was told. Obviously Henry VIII was the one who decided on the course of action. Mark Smeaton, the musician who was eventually tortured and gave a confession to sleeping with Anne, was taken to Cromwell's house for interrogation before being transferred to the Tower of London. 'Headed by' indicates that he was put in charge of the investigation against Anne, but not that that he was its progenitor. And 'engineered' since it was his legal knowledge that was required to bring a case against her. I probably could have worded it better, to make that more clear.
Some sources:
Retha M. Warnicke, The Fall of Anne Boleyn Revisited, The English Historical Review, Vol.108, No. 428, 1993 - www.jstor.org/stable/574751
Diarmaid MacCulloch, Thomas Cromwell: A Life, 2018 - amzn.to/3GMIOtW
Greg Walker, Rethinking the Fall of Anne Boleyn, The Historical Journal, Vol. 45, No. 1, 2002 - www.jstor.org/stable/3133628
Alison Weir, The Lady in the Tower: The Fall of Anne Boleyn, 2010 - amzn.to/3u5qHrK
Even Wikipedia makes mention of it - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cromwell#Fall_of_Anne_Boleyn
He knew Anne was going to try and remove him as they had fallen out about what to do with money from monasteries etc
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