We Need To Talk About Mike Shinoda...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2024
- The Linkin Park story keeps unfolding, but we need to stop for a moment and just talk.
Remember that behind new stories are real people. People whose music we love, people who might be hurting. Be Kind. Make Chester Proud.
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Mike deserves to be happy. And seeing him smile in turn makes me happy
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Justice for the remaining LP members, they have every right to play their songs again.
True. Still they could find someone better than Emily
@@Goodmorningyouall Like who?
Just for context this is the same mother to Chester that was abusive and lost custody of him and which he wrote the song "Numb" about so yeah, im not listening to a word she has to say.
Most of his songs are actually about narcissistic abuse all his life, many of us are familiar with it
Ещё я не понимаю реакцию Джейми. Он требует от Майка признания и уважения, зотя что он сделал дли группы? Он, всего лишь, снялся в клипе Soul Song для Grey Daze
...y'know, I never connected the dots there, but when I read what Chester's mother said, it just reeked of control freak. Now that I'm reminded that they didn't have a good relationship, I'm *positive* she's just stirring the pot because she can. She didn't care if Chester was happy, and she certainly doesn't want his friends to be.
@@AndyIntharaphithakto be fair most of the songs were written by Mike. There are a lot of songs that people connect to Chester’s experiences that were written by Mike about totally different topics (One More Light, for example, being about a friend dying from cancer, not suicide).
Mike is not a medieval widow of Chesters to mourn until his death for god sake. We love Chesters songs, we'll keep listening to them, but after almost a decade it's time for a fresh start.
Completely agree. Chester’s Mom and son aren’t owed anything and don’t have any ownership of the band or veto over its reformation.
you all sound so weird tbh. As if there's a rule that says everything needs a reboot, a"fresh start". No, LP was one of those bands that gave us a special feeling, listening to their songs is like awakening your core memory. It ended with Chester and honestly, even despite the trauma he gave everyone including his kids, he left at the right time. Modern times would not have suited him. I can't imagine him giving stupid trendy interviews, pretending to be a nice guy in front of too many new faces in the entertainment industry, and he himself probably couldn't find his place in a world that had turned into an asylum. Mike fits in pretty good cause he doesn't have the rebellious spirit, he's open to literally everything and he CAN smile to everyone. Not every corpse needs to be kicked, if you want a fresh start you should've asked him to create another band.
@@erwinsmith3198 Sorry but you are wrong. Every band is special for theirs fans. Or do you think that you are so special? More special then fans of Nirvana or Queen? And Mike could make reboot, but he wanted to continue with his own band. It was his idea, he wrote significant texts and music of that songs and its unfair to tel him now - your friend died, so go out of public and wait for your death stop doing what you are best and try to forget all your work.
@@petrsimi Continuing the band with all these controversies in the history of Emily and Chester's family is strange, we have to be rational at this moment and not ignorant fans, if something is wrong Mike must fix it immediately and he owes the fans an explanation, but whatever What he does is try to escape or make comments that don't help. Chester is no longer here with us, but Linkin Park was also part of him.
@@melzinha6266 everyone have past. And if chester's mother now want destroy Linkin park, she want to destroy Chester's legacy too, its only about money, no about feelings. Mike made 250% what he must do to save Chester's Legacy. He waited 7 years, he made huge event to commemorate Chester, he published Chester's songs, he named Chester's soul as part of band and fans on first LP and Emily appearance, he spoke about Chester in every interview and he chose female singer to not compare with Chester. And he continue with band for Chester AND OTHER BAND MEMBERS, Chester was one Linkin Park voice. Extraordinery voice but only one of two. And if we want to commemorate Chester Bennington it definetly should not be for destroing Linkin Park. Live and playing band is for his commemorating mutch better then single silent page on Wikipedia
These people would rather see Mike's mental health deteriorate and then post "R.I.P." posts to fit in with the crowd than actually let him move on with a band that he loved just as much as any of us and even more for the matter.
I appreciate your thoughtfulness and maturity about this situation. There has been way too much hate and divisiveness lately, and with the presidential election coming up, its getting worse each day. We are all humans with the same basic needs and desires, yet we focus on the differences and close our minds to understanding. The part of this that hurts the most is that its happening in a community that shares a love for Chester as well as the rest of Linkin Park. How did we let drama and hate corrupt Chester's memory? When did we start thinking Chester would endorse such hurtful and divisive words towards his friends? I understand the hurt of losing a loved one. My mother died when I was 25, and it still hurts. I've even watched as my father remarried a few years later. I didn't think it was an attack on my mothers memory. My father still has a life to live, and hopefully, a long one. I don't want him to finish that journey alone. I'm just happy that someone else can make him smile again. Linkin Park will never be the same, but they are still here, and now they can smile again. Lets be happy for that.
Completely agree. The community should be coming together to support the band that they're apparently fans of, not sewing division in someone's name. Thank you for sharing - Gibby
I will always have a special place in my heart for Chester, but what we need to remember is that Linkin Park (formerly Xero and Hybrid Theory) was founded by Mike and Brad. I was 11 years old when I first heard Crawling back when the Hybrid Theory album released, and I've been there ever since. I can't tell you how flippin' happy it made me to see that man genuinely smiling again at the livestream and doing what he devoted his whole being and self to. Chester will always be remembered and always be a part of Linkin Park, but I am more than happy to see them continue and set out on this new journey with Emily and Colin as part of the new lineup. Mike, Brad, Joe, Rob, and Dace have grieved, and Rob left on good terms with the guys. This isn't replacing Chester or trying to forget him. It's a new start that will continue to honour him, and I am definitely going to give my support to Mike and Emily and the lads going forward🫡
Completely agree with you! - Gibby
You do know that Chester wrote 90% of Crawling,right? Chester joined in 1999 and Hybrid Theory came out in 2000. They became big because of Chester.
@angelah8935 not denying the impact Chester has had on their success, but Mike is the heart and soul of the band. It's Mike that was behind a lot of the musicality of their biggest hits, and he would direct Chester on how best to use his skills to the best effect, and there's plenty of behind the scenes and interviews showing that process. Linkin Park with Chester was amazing, and those chapters of their book will always be there, and now it's time for the next chapters to be written, and I know Chester wouldn't want his friends to be miserable and stop making music on his account. I'm beyond happy to see them back.
100% I believe Chester would want them to keep going
Spot on mad dad! Couldn't articulate it any better 🤘🧡🔥
I completely forgot about the “Post traumatic” album that Mike put out. It hard to be difficult to lose a friend to depression. Seeing him happy on stage 7 years later is awesome! I like seeing someone posting a video to make people understand what Mike went through, but staying somewhat neutral about Chester’s family, and not attacking them. I hope Chester’s family gets help.
It's such a great album, and personally an album that helped a lot. It's Mike being honest and mature, a lot of people could learn from it - Gibby
@@TheAltVaultYT I heard it around when it first came out. I’ll have to re-listen to it.
You are AWESOME for posting this video.
Between Chester's son and his mom you'd think the band was called the Chester Bennington experience and not Linkin park. In all seriousness what about mike's mental health he had his job/creative outlet taken away from him through no fault of his own, the fans saying "they should have renamed" have they not thought that doing it under the banner linkin park is what's giving mike the headspace/strength necessary to carry on. I ran into Mike in LA at a massive attack show from what I remember it was just a conversation between two music fans as massive attack were setting their stage up (my wife is American I'm from Bristol- i grew up in the british trip hop/dance/indie music scene so although id heard of linkin park don't ask me to name the members), first I realised he was anything important was when my wife comes back and asks "you want to get a picture with mike?" It was the zero ego of that encounter that made me a fan of his.
Wow, that's an amazing story, and really tells you a lot about him and his humility. When you lose someone in that way, you should be allowed to continue with your own life in whatever way feels right for you - Gibby
@@TheAltVaultYT yeah he really was awesome when he found out where I was from, he was telling me how the hybrid theory cover was inspired by Bristol street artists like rob del naja(of MA) and banksy, I asked him if he'd ever collab with MA and the response I got was "if they'd have me" which is the response of a humble person. I watched some of the podcast Jamie did recently with "growing up scientology", he talks about how Joe Hahn cut him off, I hate to sound cold saying this but what does Joe do for a living he's a musician/graphic designer/video director he's not a mental health professional, One of the reasons why members of the band probably stepped away with dealing with Jamie is because they were intelligent enough to see they were out of their depth.
@@lewisb85Jamie should talk to a mental health professional. Not someone who works with a band. I hope Jamie gets help. Losing someone very close to you (your father) to depression has to be brutal.
@@arcadeguy781That's true, but you shouldn't forget that Jamie himself broke off contact with Chester before he died. For me, Jamie's behavior has something of self-dramatization and smear theater about it.
@@zotti1696 According to the same podcast Mike's wife who works in publishing cut contact with Jamie when he wanted to write a tell all book, I actually spoke to my wife about this who's a lawyer where she said they could be being cruel to be kind to protect Jamie from the litigation that could be coming his way if he was to tell his own deluded version of events(conspiracy theories etc). I had to switch it off more than halfway through as it was getting crazy. He refers to the band members as "uncle mike" or "uncle joe" in a derogatory way, I will say though if you've given someone the family tag they also have the right to step in and tell you when you're acting like an ass, which I think they tried to do softly softly with Jamie, but he couldn't take the hint.
One day, Chester sang-or rather, screamed-the phrase: ‘I may end up failing too… But I know… You were just like me, with someone disappointed in you!!!’ I didn’t understand this line at the time, but now, when Emily screams it, it feels like a revelation. There are so many different meanings hidden in that phrase.
It’s hard for me to say this, but the more hate I hear directed at my favorite band, Mike and the girl who, in some way, has revived this band for all of us-allowed us to relive these emotions, this euphoria-the more I want to forget everything old and listen to the songs only performed by Emily, including the old ones. I don’t know why. The world is already full of crap. I don’t understand why all these people are trying to take away these pleasant emotions and leave only the bad ones behind. You can’t be this cruel and selfish. Chester would never have approved of such behavior.
Thank you for this video. I agree with what you’re saying. Maybe someone will listen closely and draw conclusions.
well said mate, im late into my 60s but ill be rocking at the o2 on Tuesday I trust Mike, without him there is no Linking Park
Well said, the disgusting thing is they're sending all this hate in Chester's name, i don't understand why these "fans" think they knew Chester better than his friends and bandmates.
It's been 7 years, they deserve to move on.
Well said, I love this way of putting things. Tired of the hate of people that can't accept to move on.
Completely agree with you, thank you - Gibby
i feel the same way about listening to the old songs. Emily has her own way to sing and brings her own experiences and emotions. I love Chester's voice but sometimes it's too much when we hear and understand where he's coming from after his passing and it's just sad. So listening Emily sing is kinda refreshing.
I saw a tiktok comment that perfectly sums all this up. Chester's family needs better therapist. My theory is they havn't found peace with chester's death and dont want linkin park to move on because they aren't ready(atleast some of them) and they're taking it all out on mike wich is bullshit. I just want to add that apparently jamie believes mike had something to do with chester's passing? he also has "my dad didn't unalive himself and i have proof" in his insta bio but has never provided any proof. He needs alot of help.
Those hating on Emily are Chester fans. They are not Linkin Park fans.
Linkin Park was Chester. Chester was Linkin Park. Period. Chester led them from obscurity and get label contract. Chester help not to end up just another 2000s nu-metal and two album wonder band. Mike just follow orders
@@bumblebity2902 Linkin Park started Wayyyy before Chester Bennington, before Chester there was another lead singer long time ago.
@@JimmyNutron64 I was aware of that but all success came 99 percent due to Chester. Others just follow orders to make best of Chester vocals
Эти же люди и на Честера поднимали свой тон. Им просто не нравятся преремены и они всегда будут ждать Hybrid Theory 2
I disagree. You can be a Lp fan and not support Emily. They could of chose a vocalist that was a stronger singer and that was not tied to a cult. The fact that Lp chose someone that represents everything that they have claimed they dont stand for is without parallel.
Thank you for the video. I am glad that there is someone on TH-cam who is talking about this calmly. I agree that only the members of LP, only artists who live doing music have right to decide their own fate. Nor their relatives. Friends. Friends relatives. Or fans.
Thinking a lot about LP return and the split between fans about should Emily sing old songs or not, I realized how these songs were already alienated from the band many years ago. Sure, we all got used listening to LP with Chester voice, his manner, his personality which helped us to address our own feelings through LP music, channel our sadness, rage, and helplessness. The old LP music accumulated so many energy of listeners who went through rough times with LP on repeat, like if these songs already belong to the audience as a specific folklore, and to nobody separately including the band itself.
For old fans who are deeply connected to old songs through their experience, hearing Emily voice may even wound the ego. For some of them, the return of LF could be even terrifying: the fact that life won’t stop if someone you feel to be related with very much (like Chester) disappears. It wounds because you feel that the same could happen to you. Realizing that people around you won’t stop living their lives if you go away, and your inheritance won’t be buried together with you really hurts. Life will go on when we die. Damn. How unfair is that for little egoists like us?
As for myself, I am happy that Mike’s and other LP guys life is going. I am ready for new songs (and new reactions) and old ones together with Emily, because she has the same right to sing them as everybody else in the world. If she joined the band, it only means, that she is cool enough to make new music and have fun together with the band on the stage. Good luck to them!
Losing someone to suicide is hard, a few of us on this team unfortunately know what that feels like. It pains us to see some "fans" turning on them for not grieving how they'd like them to. No matter what opinion you have on the story, it's a sensitive topic and should be treated as such. Thank you for watching 😊 - Gibby
It's been 7 years since chester pass he's not replaceable. he was one of a kind human he's voice spoke to the people. Now it's time to make the band happy, and fans we all love chester let's make him proud for he's band members. but it's time to carry the torch new era of music!
Emily you got this welcome to linkin park family!
Completely agree! Respect the past, embrace the future - Gibby
@@TheAltVaultYT that’s what it’s all about, but I hate when people start criticizing about the band and make it a new name and all this other stuff
This is something that people need to stop and see this, so they can reflect on all of this. It’s like you’re looking at the big picture, going through other’s perspective.
I feel it was handled honorably. While I acknowledge the feelings long time fans have and while i appreciated linkin park i couldn't call myself a fan until this new tune. So many may say I have no right to say people need to quit dwelling on it and they need to realize mike shouldn't have to stop just because chester's mistake.
Even did s tribute song to mike on how he must feel.
I seriously think we need to stop this shitstorm around Linkin Park and let them continue their life. I am very annoyed to see all these problems around them since their announcement of a return. These problems are tiring me and I think it’s time to stop.
Yes we lost a total legend, GOAT, but there are 5 other members of this band. 3 of whom are ready to move on and do what makes them happy. Making music. I feel for them all and of course anyone who was close to Chester. I miss Chester so much, but we have to move on. The band need to move on. No one will ever be Chester, sing like Chester, scream like Chester, laugh like Chester, smile like Chester, joke like Chester. There is no replacing Chester. And I think in my opinion Mike, Brad, Dave, Joe and Rob know know no one can ever be Chester in any of the above. But they love what they do. They have had 7 years and are still probably grieving but feel it's time to carry on and do what they love. Which is music, making us happy, making them happy . I am happy for whatever makes them happy. They are all humble beautiful people, and I love all 6 of them no matter what the road they take. Forever a fan from New Zealand ❤❤
@@sashaelton2696 And as mike said "You are the Chester's voice. And Emily is Emily". That's means thats not a remplacement, thats just a new road.
The most warm feeling was seeing truly happy Mike's face on stage. It just doesnt deserves any hate by only that fact. If Mike is happy, let him do what does make him feel good. We like linkin park songs he created, shouldn't we be thankfull to him?
Chester always talked about his own struggles with mental health and how important it is to recognize and understand those struggles as people hurt for various reasons all the time and belittling them for it because you can't relate just makes them feel even worse and makes you part of the problem, so the people using their displeasure of the choice of a "replacement" (I use that loosely because although yes, Emily is visually taking his place in the lineup, she'll never truly replace him nor is she or the rest of the band trying to) to personally attack them for it are simply going against everything he stood for and slapping him in the face because you never know how deeply your hurtful words are affecting somebody oftentimes until it's too late. Whether the allegations against Emily are true or not is none of our business and I just hope Chester's family gets the help they clearly need (his son apparently cut off contact with him not long before he died for whatever reason, which makes everything he's saying just sound overly dramatic to me and I think his mother's just talking out of her ass because LP wasn't just about Chester) and that everyone can just stop and choose their words carefully because it's absolutely fine to dislike their choice of a singer but it's far beyond unacceptable to attack who they are as people when you don't know them personally because *you* aren't happy with it as it goes against what Chester always preached in both interviews and his lyrics.
It's actually pretty simple. Imagine this would've been a new band which didn't even play LP songs at all. These people would've been the first to claim that this is disrespectful to Chester, and Mike tries to overwrite his legacy with this new stuff. They feed on drama and that's all.
Yep, well said, there are some fans that say Chester was LINKIN PARK and that they should change their name. it’s not LINKIN PARK without him, and that LINKIN PARK died Winchester died. that idea is even worse, that’s actually would be considering erasing Chester‘s legacy. LINKIN PARK wasn’t just Chester, even he said that. also when the band were first getting their start, people at Warner Brothers wanted Mike to leave the band and have Chester be the main star but Chester said no.
100%, I bet those are the same people who stopped listening after "minutes to midnight" saying that LP is just "pop" and "soft music"...
Yep, even Chester would always say the band would always get hate for changing up their sound. fans want them to do hybrid theory over and over again.
exactly even if you created a new name for the band it's still linkin park music with new vocalist, with mike, brad, rob, joe everyone in the band people would still have a problem with it so. i think keeping the linkin park name after two decades and keeping the name alive with chester in the sky watching over us smiling for he's friends and family
They've already established the name for a long as a band with a huge following i'd rather see mike and everyone else happy that they're carrying on the legacy and building on top of what they've already made in the past
This, so many people need to see this.
Thank you for watching 😊 - Gibby
I kinda thought this was gonna be the exact opposite, but your compassion is amazing.
Edit: I also lost my sister that way, and even before talked about your loss, I could feel that feel many of the same things I do. Moving on is hard but necessairy and fells bad and good at the same time.
I'm so sorry you went through that, it's not something that leaves you, and is different to "normal" grief in ways that it's impossible to know unless first hand. Everyone is just trying to do the best they can - Gibby
If Chester could speak, probably he'd let the band do what they do. And probably he does not apreciate fan's hate, as always.
I feel bad for Mike. he is damned on all fronts. When he releases solo material and played his solo gigs he was criticised by Chester’s relatives for exploiting grief. Now he has reunited LP and he is still being dogged by Chester’s relatives and ‘fans’ but it goes deeper like any new material he releases that sounds even vaguely LP like there is an AI Chester cover posted within seconds which must be horrific because it seems like for some people Mike is never going to be enough even performing his own songs. This even goes for songs like still alive. I get why people want to hear Chester but they are so possessive of what they think Mike and LP should do. Its unreasonable.
little detail: when Chester was still alive and doing shows, the fans were singing along very loudly back then too. the whole singing along or singing whole verses thing isnt new, this was always a thing that happened. just now, mike is giving it a new meaning. i just think thats a really low thing to harp on by Jaime, bit of a low blow.
Good video. When i heard that LP was coming back, i grabbed the popcorn cause it was going to be a rough ride. I was not disappointed, theyre speed running the Kobayashi maru on repeat. Im glad thyre back, i always been a shinoda fan, i regusrd fort minor as the last "real" LP album. It sucks that chester's gone but as good as he was, he was never the reason i listened to LP. The scientology angle wasnt on my bingo card. Itll be interesting to see where this goes cause they are milking that aspect hard. Glad mike is back to a good place
I really appreciate you putting this out, i know it's likey the vocal minority thing but there has been was to much toxicity around lp coming back. I'm on the side of being super excited and can't believe they are back, i know it'll be different but different is ok! We all loved Chester but whatever happens going forward won't change his legacy in music.
This was so lovely. Thank you for making this video.
Thank you for your kind words - Gibby
This is definitely the most level headed response to the situation. Seeing it from all perspectives and I appreciate that.
Once I heard that they were coming back together I figured it was going to be a mess of some sort in a way.. it's heartbreaking cuz it brings up so much pain for others.
I'm interested in where Linkin Park is going with this new era but I do feel the pain of others not ready for it.
It's definitely going to be rough either way and I'm hoping we can all move foward somehow and get past conflicts and do what Chester would want us all to do
No matter what Linkin Park does there will always be people purposely looking for something to hate about them. Linkin Park will strive regardless and I'm supporting them all the way as a long time dedicated fan.
As a die hard Linkin Park fan since the release of Hybrid Theory, there isn't a day goes by where I don't not listen to them. I have seen them in concert so many times. We were connected to the band because of the resonance and for some, life experiences they could relate to in the music and lyrics, which is why fans held Chester in their hearts because they didn't feel alone. Out of all the bands I love, I have never seen or felt a band with the depth of loyalty as the LP fan base. You see it with the amount of social media posts of the band, 400 people standing in a field singing and playing at the top of their voices, to show their love and respect to Chester and remind the remaining members, that although they didn't personally know Chester, the fans are still here showing love and support in the only way they can.
I was apprehensive when I heard they were reforming...no male singer would ever replace but would continually compared to Chester. When I first heard the song it's definitely an LP song...vocals aside, it just vibes the LP we were familiar with. Emily isn't Chester, never will be but I thought lets give her a chance.Then the backlash started.
I have just listened to your view and have say, it is without doubt, the most balanced perspective I have listened to and given some fans something to think about. You were thoughtful with your words, respectful and articulated a point of view that some fans may not have considered. Please keep doing posts/videos like this, because it was just great...and with this subject topic, so important to listen and watch a levelled and thoughtful perspective, which will give some the opportunity to reflect on what you articulated. You may not realise how important it is.
mike wrote those songs
Chester, Mike, Brad wrote LP songs. It's not about LP moving on. It's about a woman who advocates & facilitated abuse.
@SarahSmith-yz7fd i don't understand how showing up to one pre-trial hearing advocates abuse.
You know basically nothing about her, stop spreading lies this is getting ridiculous.
@@SarahSmith-yz7fd I had never seen her say anything, now if you want to trial her for having connections to something, then by proxy we can link you to Chester doing what he did because you didn't like his album. Grow up, stop throwing blame on everyone online, starting dramas and just live your life mate, if the band isn't for you anymore that is fine, and I absolutely understand how you are feeling, because that is how I would of felt 7 years ago when I was 18, but enough with the hate. Emily is getting so much shit for no real reason, she is there to sing us the songs we love, we share emotional connection to, and she shares that love and emotion with us. That is what matters at the end of the day
@@SarahSmith-yz7fd And you have no prove she still supports it. All the hate is just He said She said rumors that gets spread like wildfire and then people like you end up believing the fake stories without doing your own research first.
@@SarahSmith-yz7fdyou have that in writing or on video? I’ve not seen a single thing showing her saying those things.
Thank you for this calm, insightful, grounded and MATURE perspective on this situation.
The vitriolic response of some fans has really thrown a light on the fact that many of these people are not yet emotionally mature enough to move through the grief process towards acceptance. We also need to remember that Jamie is very young, and before the age of 25 the prefrontal cortex is not done developing, and you still tend to think everything is about you and you're still very emotionally reactive. You can't interact with someone when they're still very set on being in that place, and they're just looking for reasons to make everyone else the bad guy. Mike is older and wiser, and he seems to have come to acceptance, and I assume the rest of the band as well. There is a 6th step to the grieving process, and it is 'Making new things again.' I'm beyond pleased to see my childhood heroes thriving again.
I like that "lifelong fans" of this band never knew that Mike Shinoda was the creative decision maker of everything the band had done throughout their entire career. Acting like "the sidekick trying to take over everything" while saying they were huge fans their entire lives is comedy gold.
Eloquently put, heartfelt and educated. Incredibly respectful to boot.
I honestly just wish them all the best moving forward, remembering the past fondly.
The legacy won't be erased or overwritten, it'll be honoured and appreciated by all.
The unnecessary hate does nothing for anything or anyone. Love leads the way.
Thank you so much for this video! Totally agree with you. Cannot understand how people are talking as they were incarning Chester's will of thoughts, saying he would not like to be replaced whereas seeing Mike and all others finally happy at the same time saying they love Chester. You told everything thanks. ❤
Thank you for this
It seems people just like controversies and drama
Never knew that LP fans were immature
I agree with a lot of things you said, thankyou for this video
Besides that, keeping the old songs alive, play them again in the shows... for me, THIS is keep Chester's legacy alive. I mean, return with the band, with Linkin Park, and just act like "oh, we'll not play old songs for respect"... ? And then, all the hard work of them WITH Chester would be for what? To erase everything with Chester's death?
One more thing: I suggest you to watch the interview the band did with Zane Lowe (if you haven't watched it yet). Mike talks with more details about the process of hanging out together again and then bring the band back, and you can see how all of them (including Emily) thought and reflected so much to decide it
as a LP fan, Mike's smile and energy on stage was freaking contagious. somehow it brings a feeling of hope and a thought that hey. maybe we can live through the worst episodes in our lives and be like this again - happy, creative and free, doing what we love more than anything in the world. it's not forgetting. I don't know how you can blame Mike for moving on and forgetting, after everything he expressed about Chester's death. maybe those people never lost anyone in their life and don't quite understand how it feels to be the one who stayed, when the other one is gone forever.
I think what also gets lost in all of this, is what would Chester want? He would 100 percent want his good friends to keep going in their musical endeavors. He wasnt a selfish egotistical person. And people saying its disrespectful to Chester just kills me bc that wasnt him!! He would be saying ya brothers keep on keeping on
We're all suffering after losing Chester and I can't possibly imagine how the other Linkin Park members feel. All that pain and pressure that they've been through. They deserve to be creative and continue making music. It's selfish from some LP fans to expect them to stop being active at all.
It was so good seeing Mike so happy on stage after the Post Traumatic years .... the hope and joy again feels good and I can't wait to finally fulfil the promise I made to my kids seven years ago to take them to see Linkin Park when they are next in the UK (Regarding tickets, just keep hititng the AXS resale site as tickets keep becoming available, but they dissappear fast)
Keep trying, we managed to get some on AXS this afternoon! - Gibby
Thank you for a voice of reason :)
It's mike band,he started it and has the right to continue,we love Chester,always will,people don't get to decide what they should or shouldn't do,get a life and just enjoy the music they make for you.
Yah, but only divide in the moment is those who enjoy Linkin Park 2.0 and those who don't. And those who do couldn't care any less for those who don't, no matter how much rant and bitterness they have inside :D
What a great take, i can tell you thought long and hard about what you were gonna say here.
Big props.
Thank you, so well said!
Thank you for watching! - Gibby
LP had 7 years to mourn his death, Chester was an unbelievable talent with a terrific voice and will always be a part of LP, but the band did absolutely the right thing by moving on and getting back to doing what they love. The move to a female vocalist was also the right move, that meant Chester wouldnt be replaced (afterall it'd be an impossible shoe to fill). Emily is an amazing vocalist, she is growing with every performance, and I'm so very happy for LP, one of the bands I adore since my teenage years.
Other thing people seem to not realize, Linkin Park is not Chester Bennington, Linkin Park is Linkin Park, they have every right to get back at being Linkin Park after a tragic death of a band member. Chester himself wouldve wanted the band, his friends, to move on and make him proud.
Shes a scientologist. She may be a good vocalist but its the same thing to defend Adolf H for what he did only because he's been a rather good painter.
Thank for the video! You just took the words from the tip of my tongue about all these situations happening around the band. Namely today I posted a similar thread to the topic with similar thoughts and messages, because it’s going out of control, media outlets doing their work bad causing only damage
Look man, we can say whatever we want about wether or not Linkin Park should continue, but ultimately its Mike Shinoda who decides that because it was HIS band in the first place.
Thank you for bringing up Post Traumatic album. Even Mike himself forgot he did a tour on that album (he reacted to Zane's question about Post Traumatic album in Apple Music From Zero album interview). I've always loved Linkin Park and my idol for me is Mike Shinoda. Still I got devastated by the lost of Chester, he was one of a kind, but dude, suddenly Mike and the rest of the band is out of the equation. All I see was the fans claiming they were the most damaged people in the world. Man I understand it was denial at its best back then, but now please take a grip on reality, the band experienced much more unreal feelings than the rest of us. I'm so glad you bring this up. I thought I was alone giving more empathy to the band and especially to Mike. Subscribed.
Halfway through this. This is the absolute correct and only take to have on the situation. I can’t wrap my head around ‘fans’ having any other opinion on the situation. Even the video of the guy (well meaning) saying to Emily “you made Chester proud”. Just stop beating them all over the head with it. It’s a difficult process for all the members returning to performing without having that weight thrown at them. We miss Chester, there will never be anyone like him. This however, is still Linkin Park. I can’t wait to see them tomorrow night
Like I said, people are just stuck in the past and need to realize that holding onto the past might sometimes hurt you in the long run. That's why I like the direction where LP is going now, something new, something fresh cause its been 7 years since Chester's passing, ik its hard for me but this is how it is going to be, we can't stay in the past forever and honestly, the new changes I like it a lot.
All I want is for the band to fall into the same drama they are enduring. Plus its been two weeks, not even a month.
I honestly don't give a bit of a shit what Chesters mother has to say. She abused chester for years and didn't care about chesters or the bands feelings. She's just pouring fuel into the fire.
Fair thoughts! A lot entitlement around various people online
Thanks for saying this. A lot of clickbaits and grifters taking advantage and fanning the flames for two weeks has been sickening
Some of the things we've seen over the last 2 weeks have been awful. Unfortunately, reactionary content is rewarded. We hope this channel can be somewhere that people can actually talk about things instead - Gibby
The same people who hate him now for reviving the band without changing the name would hate him if he had started a new band with the same people but a different name. They would say it is "disrespectful to Chester's memory and legacy." Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Mike is the founder and leader of the band; he is the composer of almost all of Linkin Park's songs. It is his life's work, and he shouldn't have to lose it because Chester died. It's not fair and Chester wouldn't have wanted it that way. I don't care about Chester's mom or son's opinion. The band have the right to carry on in the way the think is the best for them. They deserve to be happy and keep creating their own legacy.
Great video mate, nice to see someone think about things and speak about them properly, big of you to talk about your mate as well rip to him
some day jaime will get it.
we all love chester
Jamie wont get it ever until he seeks to get better with help.
So far he has declined any help from his mom and others.
yeah, agree
I have been a fan of Linkin Park since 1999 when they were Xero yes prior to Chester but they had the art the sound the new sounds and then came Chester. Think if Chester never joined. Even just thinking about it makes me sad. Mike and the guys made the music, Chester was the voice, the magic, the emotion, the raw pain that all of the fans could relate to Linkin Park. Chester left us and I am not over it never will be. I don't know if LP would be as successful as they have been without Chester or would Chester have had a platform to get his voice heard worldwide they needed each other...... Mike and the guys deserve to move forward, I love Mike and he deserves to move forward. I think Emily is amazing and even though I will be loyal to the Chester era but I can also love the new era. Linkin Park helped me through a lot of rough years. I only wish the best for them and can't wait for the new album. Speaking of Jaime he will always be grieving he is the oldest son and knows more than the other kids and he is lost and it's like Chester all over again he's screaming for help yet here we are. (yes I know you can't help someone unless they want it) ... All the best to Chester's children and family. Thank you to Mike and LP for moving forward for old and new fans. #makechesterproud
Mike is a talented musician, Chester would not want him to step off and keep crying, he is a genius to me and his music is a great reminder that todays' music is shit and he must create more
When fans don't care about the members. they only care about themselves really. They have the idea of what Linkin park is and want it to stay that way. Not caring about how the members themselves feel and what's best for them
us LP fans knew Chester better than his own family did and the band members knew Chester even MORE than us fans did. seeing Jaime and Chester's mom calling out mike and the band for being traitors and all that shit is just embarrassing for Chester himself. Hes not with us anymore but im damn well sure he'd feel embarrassed as all hell if he saw this shit happen.
Other bands have lost their led singer and we don’t hear all this awful stuff people say Chester will always be missed but the band is back and took 7yesrs later not a year so I feel people need to respect the band and move on don’t be so full of hate that is a terrible way to be Chester wouldn’t want that just love and respect each other mike and the band should be respected for their music and their new members it takes a lot to do what they are doing there is so much evil in the world please don’t add to that we need more ❤️ love
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how the roots introduced him the other night haha.
mike did mike
If you ask me ''Cross Off'' song by Chester Bennington almost sounds like he was splitting from the band permanantly. ''Heavy is the hand'' is one of the lines in the lyrics of that song. And the NEW LP album From Zero has a song called ''Heavy Is The Crown''
Van Halen did not have a vocalist die... Eddie did in 2022. And there is no replacing him
I Agree!!! ❤
People defending scientology should be on a watchlist.
I don't have the link to hand but didn't one of the LP members mention on Reddit that the Emptiness Machine song itself is about Scientology? And if you listen to the lyrics with that context in mind it comes off as pretty damn scathing. They might not have made a statement yet(and tbf I do think they should to clear the air), but if that's true it seems relatively cut and dry.
That’s my interpretation personally.
It's rather unlikely that the song is about Scientology, as it was already written before Emily was even thought of and originally Mike was supposed to sing it alone. It was only later that the song became this collaboration. He was also involved by other singers, but that wasn't Linkin Park, which is why they agreed that Mike should sing it alone. So that's nonsense from Reddit.
@@zotti1696 TBF according to Mike they were 'officially' working with Emily for a year and she had to keep it a secret, and she had been 'hanging around' for something like 5 years total. That's a very long time for a song to get rewritten or have the lyrics changed. And even if the song isn't about that, the lyrics still come off as extremely scathing if you think about it in that context. Songs can mean more than one thing.
I ask myself why it is always Linkin Park who gets so much „hate“, back, when Chester was alife it was about when they moved away from nu metal to another style of music. Now it is, because they have a new vocalist singing chesters parts in live shows. If some Elvis imitator sings his songs, does that destroy his legacy, no, most people would say it honors it. When Adam Lambert sang Freddy Mercury‘s Song, did that erase the past or destroy his legacy, I would say it didn‘t. I don‘t get it, but it seems to me some members from Chesters family are struggeling very hard to process his dead, and sometimes it’s easier to blame others, like his bandmates. I was 19 when my mother died of cancer and it took me 10 years to process it.
How is the community split?just look at like / dislike ratio on all their new stuff... who cares about the loud haters if there are like 5% at most complaining ... let them whine. Everyone just making a drama up to milk the controversy where and when there is absolutly none. In fkng germany they went for the first time straight to 1st on the charts, this never happened before.
I had a spare ticket for Ldn, but only managed to snatch one 🥺
Life before death
So nice to see someone b nice about Mike I love him. Oh I think tickets r still available for o2 but there soon so I would go and look there not to bad in price ether
I’m just worried that Mike has joined a cult
Did your watch along video get taken down? It was doing so well! 😢
It did 😔 102k views until TH-cam decided to copyright strike it. The video still exists, so we might try to find another way to upload it somewhere. Hopefuly see you Tuesday 😊 - Gibby
@@TheAltVaultYTabsolute typical youtube 😂 Yes, if I see you il come and say hi!
its still Linkin Park, what do people expect they change their band name to? the new amazing co vocalist Emily from Dead Sara, so...Dead Chester?
Hate to be critical of Mike, but after seven years I was hoping he could come up with something more creative than just reusing the melody from Final Masquerade for their new single.
This is soooo funny dude. 😅😅😅😅😅i swear people. Aww poor Mike. Lol.
depression is contagious
I don't think Mike Shinoda.
Getting back together with Linkin Park. It's not just about the money, it's about seeing if you can do it again, seeing if you can get on stage Everybody's mad at him for hiring a new singer. Emily Armstrong, it's not about replacing Chester. Just would want them to move on as well. He would want them to read. Do music, it's I think Mike has taken the hits more harder. Than the rest of the band like Joey Phoenix Brad, they have never been talking about this on t. V or on broadcast, like mike Has I wish people would not target him so much Like jamie chester's mom like attacking mike attacking the band I can understand their grief but it's time to move on Jamie needs help. He needs treatment because what he's been saying online. It's not healthy like trying to say that the record label wanted Chester. Dead, you know, chester and mom was saying That Mike should know that told Chester. He was going to replace him with a woman. I can't see Mike saying that I don't know. Mike personally.
The media is blowing us out of a Because they want a story
get to the point. he's awesome, wrote 90% of lp.
nope. He and Chester was 50/50 songwritting partners in the usual basis
For example, they made the name called LINKIN PARK and they made song down the road if it wasn’t for that there will be no LINKIN PARK but you have understand how the fans are feeling how mom feels and how his kids feel everybody’s going through all of emotions right now how it feels because he’s gone, I think what happened to Chester he got lost in his mind because of one of his friends what he did and I think that hurt him so much he wanted to do the same thing because he missed his friend that why he did it i’m not agree on anything about this. It’s gonna take time people to grieve over this. It doesn’t happen in one day or one night. It takes time to heal. You guys understand where his mom is feeling and his sons are feeling. I think the best thing they could do is talk it out in social media does not help. It makes things worse and I can relate to Chester because I’ve been in that dark place
Get two options you can do get help or let it defeat you I’ve dealt with 4 suicides the best thing is to do is get help and get counseling because you feel like give up on life, you start losing hope a lot of things it’s always good to talk to people know who is close with I think Mike and his mom should talk. Think what Chester You gotta think what he want That’s what you gotta ask yourself. even worse. You can imagine how she feels like. She’s getting so much hate everything not right. Imagine if you were in her shoes. but I can agree with you 100%. I can agree with you. I have lost my friend due to suicide and then my brother‘s girlfriend committed suicide and then one of my other friends committed suicide. Another friend of mine committed suicide and then my best friend was murdered by a person I met that person in jail, but we’re not alone we all been through stuff
People respond differently to loss, and it's up to the people around each other to respect everyone's journey might be different. We're sorry you've been through so much - Gibby
@@TheAltVaultYT thank you I’m just trying my best to help out other people out
he fronted with chester, who was the goat (awesome)
I was all for the band to reunite and make great songs again, and i dont think Emily is a bad singer, she is no Chestet of course but she is great in the new song. However, what i cannot accoet is her connection to scientology and Danny Masterson. She addressed it in an instagram story without naming Danny or condemning him and the band being silence about that is not cool. I normally separate the art from the artist but linkin park is special band i cant do that separation. So ihave decided no to listen to the new stuff or attend any if the new shows until they clarify this im out.
Mike is also a scientologist. It's so fucking easy to see 😂 how or why else pick Emily? The band is run by scientologist overlords. The true LP died with Chester. RIP.
Its NOT VERY SPLIT, MAJORITY wants them back, ONLY A FEW making all these drama, mostly the Gen Zs or the Woke ones.
Hi! New to your channel and can I just say THANK YOU! You’ve said everything there is to say. Every time I see some negative comment/video/etc it’s like did you think about what you’re saying before you said/posted it? The only thing I can think of is, is this how ppl are dealing with this situation because this is how they grieve and express their emotions with such negativity? It’s just awful.
Loved Post Traumatic by Mike btw, it’s very heartfelt.
I’ve been a fan since day one and I’m happy to see the band happy. Here for this new journey their on. Remember the past, embrace the present, and look forward to the future. 🤘🫶💚💖🖤
They should've picked Spencer Sotello
I hate to be the bearer of hard truths but Mike shinoda would not be where he is without Chester Bennington so he should have probably just been humble instead of hiring a Scientologist to relive his glory days
Yes, Linkin Park just could live in people hearts.
I think linkin park did the right thing in trying 2 move on from Chester Bennington their always going 2 b question on who they picked to replace him when it been a man as front person 4 so long!.
Nothing to see here 😆 just shut the conversation down instead of allowing questions to arise.
Mike look like a nice guy.... but NOW his choice and action say other wise.
This guy is a disrespectful Karen
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My point of view is that Mike Shinoda saw it’s coming that himself being useless in the band; and that’s why he took the first step by replacing Chester Bennington, before Mike Shinoda himself being replaced! But Chester Bennington took this so deep in pain that this decision from Mike Shinoda ends Chester’s own life! We don’t know what else painful words came out of Mike Shinoda! Obviously very greedy words I think! Mike Shinoda is a Rapper who worked with Jay Z, which is currently get involved with P Diddy’s scandal case on court! Which I think Mike Shinoda should also learned some of the dirty tricks from Jay Z that P Diddy did to other artists…!!! I hope the FBI and CIA should investigate deeply and have a deep check on Mike Shinoda…!!!
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you need psych evaluation ASAP. What kind of conspirational shit is this?