Eau Rouge, Raidillon | F1 1987 - F1 2020 Belgian GP Onboard
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- Eau Rouge, Raidillon | F1 1987 - F1 2020 Belgian Grand Prix Onboard
Location: Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps, Stavelot, Belgium
The evolution of Eau Rouge.
Watch the F1 Onbaords from this legendary section of track with the evolution in cars, drivers, track and other things since 1987 (Satoru Nakajima, Lotus 99T) - 2020 (Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes-AMG F1 W11). Look out for legendary drivers such as: Jean Alesi, Nigel Mansell, Alain Prost, Michael Schumacher, Fernando Alonso, Kimi Raikkonen (King of Spa), Lewis Hamilton, Sebastain Vettel and more.
The Eau Rouge has lent its name to the Eau Rouge corner, one of the best-known corners in Formula One race tracks in the Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps motor racing circuit, at the point where the track crosses it for the first time. It's now flat in a Formula 1 car, but Spa-Francorchamps' iconic corner, Eau Rouge, is still a challenge not to be underestimated
The most famous part of the circuit is the Eau Rouge and Raidillon combination. Having negotiated the La Source hairpin, drivers race down a straight to the point where the track crosses the Eau Rouge stream for the first time, before being launched steeply uphill into a sweeping left-right-left series of corners with a blind summit. Properly speaking, the Eau Rouge corner is only the left-hander at the bottom. The following right-hander that leads steeply uphill, which was introduced in 1939 to shortcut the original Ancienne Douane hairpin, is called Raidillon. The corner requires an amount of skill from the driver to negotiate it well and the long Kemmel straight ahead produces good overtaking opportunities for drivers at the following "Les Combes" corner. The corner was tighter and narrower before 1970, allowing drivers to take the corner faster.
"It's good, but the myth is bigger than the corner," said Jenson Button in 2002. "You don't come to it thinking, 'It's Eau Rouge'; it's just a normal corner."
Martin Brundle argued that the downhill Pouhon left-hander had usurped Eau Rouge - the colloquial name for the left-right-left series of corners that comprise Raidillon at the top of the hill - as "the ultimate challenge at Spa".
This followed the completion of renovation works designed to improve safety, with the barriers moved back, gravel traps paved over and the track resurfaced.
"The sting has been removed completely from Eau Rouge," Brundle wrote. "It used to be that you built up to Eau Rouge throughout the weekend until your final qualifying lap."It is now simply a great risk without being a great challenge because it is absolutely flat out from the word go."
2005 and 2006 F1 World Champion Fernando Alonso explained:
- "You come into the corner downhill, have a sudden change [of direction] at the bottom and then go very steep uphill. From the cockpit, you cannot see the exit and as you come over the crest, you don't know where you will land. It is a crucial corner for the timed lap, and also in the race, because you have a long uphill straight afterwards where you can lose a lot of time if you make a mistake. But it is also an important corner for the driver's feeling. It makes a special impression every lap, because you also have a compression in your body as you go through the bottom of the corner. It is very strange - but good fun as well."
A challenge for drivers has always been to take Eau Rouge/Raidillon flat out. Touring cars can take the corner at 160-180 km/h, and Formula One cars at over 300 km/h due to high downforce. World Champion Jacques Villeneuve once spoke of the effects of downforce, saying that to get through the corner the drivers have to drive faster, because downforce increases the faster a race car goes. Without lifting the throttle through Eau Rouge, a car would be flat out from La Source, along the Kemmel straight to Les Combes, a total distance of 2.015 km.
A loss of control through this section can often lead to a very heavy shunt, as usually the rear end of the car is lost and the resulting impact is often lateral. Several famous racing drivers have crashed while driving through Eau Rouge/Radillon, including Stefan Bellof in a Porsche sportscar, Guy Renard during the 1990 24h of Spa-Francorchamps in a Toyota Corolla GT, and Alex Zanardi in a season-ending crash during a practice session of the 1993 Belgian Grand Prix in a Lotus. Jacques Villeneuve suffered a spectacular crash at the top of Radillon in qualifying during the 1999 Belgian Grand Prix which he described as "My best-ever crash". His teammate Ricardo Zonta followed Villeneuve by having a similar accident later in practice, leading cartoonist Jim Bamber to show BAR boss Craig Pollock telling Zonta: "Jacques is the quickest through Eau Rouge, so go out there and do exactly what Jacques does…" It was revealed later that Villeneuve and Zonta had a personal bet to see if either could take the corner flat out.
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If you notice, in 1994 there is a chicane because of the widespread response to Imola that same year.
Yep, that's correct. Thank goodness it was only for one year and one year only!
Response to Ayrton senna incident?
@@SongShiyu senna and roland
@@SongShiyu Yes and as @CristianPortela mentioned, Roland Ratzenberger too.
@@ParcFermeF1 Hubert would be still alive if the 1994 version would been the permanent solution. It's a shame they went back to danger in 1995.
I like what former F1 driver and commentator David Hobbs said about Spa; “It’s such a long track that when you’re driving it, you really have the sense of going somewhere, instead of just going in circles.” I had the good fortune to take a business trip to Europe over my birthday weekend one year, and found myself at Spa for the GP, where I checked off a huge item on my bucket list. It was 2 years after they changed engine packages, so I didn’t get to hear the shriek of the V10’s, but Eau Rouge is hairy in any car, and it was a dream come true to be there.
David Hobbs was talking about the old Spa track which was twice as long as todays track. Also it was across public roads and crazy fast in comparison to nowadays
@@rofufoja was crazy fast but literally 80% of the track was just flat out,super long straights.Wouldn't be a good track today imo because cars with more down force like rb would stand no chance against high straight line speed cars like merc
@@keashin2844 Would be spectacular in almost every other division of racing without or with little aero and especially historics imo. Although quite dangerous 😄
Its almost perfect only downside its located in the shithole called Belgium
@@keashin2844 this year look like the rb have both straight and downforce 👀
1987: Break Shift down a gear half throttle up the hill then flat out
2020: Flat out the whole way through
Nakajima was also going hella slow in there.
Back then they used the arms to make the car steer, not the fingers like the pussies of today
@@80sf1fan2 tf does electronic steering has to do with throttle you donut?
@@80sf1fan2 you know something called downforce right?
@@koyomiee1446 im'talking about power steering, and those cars were scary powerful
2:22 Random fact:
Back in the early 2000's you normally couldn't take Raidillon flat with the race setup on, but on that occasion Mika decided to risk it all and it resulted in one of the best overtakes in the history of F1
Can even see it next year with Villeneuve lifting, then the year after that Coulthard is flat out, they were that close! Thanks for pointing that out!
Doesn't seem true at all. Schumacher in 1996 is clearly going flat out through Raidillon. The drop in revs you are hearing is due to the steepness of the incline, not the drivers lifting their foot off the gas.
2:25 seconds before one of the best overtakes.
I went to look for it !! Thanks pal
also at 6:03
Here too 6:03
6:03 Aswell
so is 6:03
It's funny how the faster the cars actually go, the slower they appear and the easier the corner looks.
Thaks to camera stabilization.
@@AlexandreMS71 Its more because of the field of view+camera hight from the ground.
One word. . . Downforce
You are right. I noticed that to.
But in some Point, the Corner actually become more easy with the Years. So you are right in both Points.
When the Cars are able to take the Corner Flat Out, that means, that it is an easy Corner, and the Car is still not on his Limit.
So Eau Rouge was way harder back in the Days, when the had to take the Corner on the actuall Limit of the Car.
Today it is far away from the Cars Limit, and so it is an Easy Corner.
@@kallo182 no it isn’t
It’s harder cause you’re going much faster
Huge difference in video quality from 2000s to 2004s, like it is middle ages to future
Yep that's right, don't think they'll be coming back anytime soon too :(
Thats same time where cell phones comes with camera on them too and colored screen. Computers has age up too so technology was improving very fast that time
The transition from analogue to digital recording/encoding in broadcast television began in 2000. Cool to see the maturation of the camera tech through that transition.
How I feel with normal vision vs my glasses 💀
@@THIS---GUY LMFAO, same here...! Lol
Great video but the labelled ‘2018’ clip is actually Leclerc from 2019 and the ‘2019’ clip is Vettel from 2018 :).
I know, I'm so annoyed about it haha, oh well
Leclerc did'nt even drive at Ferrari in 2018
@@Super-kid1886 Made a unfortunate mistake.
Yeah
Yeah hahahaha it can happend
That Webber overtake, I never get sick of watching it.
How brave, with zero room for error. Fantastic move
I think if at any time in his career Alonzo ever said wtf, that was it.
Amazing the downshift and lift in 1987 compared to the slight lift through the 90s and now flat out in modern cars.
Have another look at 94 and 95 😉
Man, it's Satoru Nakajima on video, you're not comparing cars, but drivers. Senna used to be 4 to 5 seconds faster than Nakajima in Lotus.
@AndyVinPlayz oh, I made a mistake. Schumacher didn't lift through Eau Rouge in 95 and 96
@@MrQlife in 98 and 99 Villeneuve tried to go flat out in raidillon but spins and crashed heavily
nah the '87 driver here is really shit. For some reason he's too scared to go fast through Eau Rouge despite being a professional racing driver. Prost and Senna would've gone much faster trough there
4:17 Balls of steel
Loved listening to Murray Walker and watching Schumacher. 👍
Yeah same here, the guy was just so passionate about the sport. One of a kind Murray was!
it's amazing how planted the modern F1 cars are. They look so smooth and controlled; unphased by all the small bumps and kerbs.
Also the camera stabilization is much better.
love the older cars
Thats why old onboards are fun to watch
This didn’t age well :)
@@patrickdej2696 haha. it certainly didn't. 10G bouncing now
Schumacher 2005 was so smooth. Effortless. I was there at bottom of eau rouge that year.
Brillaint!
2:55 (i probably *really* wrong here but) absolutely shuddering hearing tire screech while going over second crest on Eau Rouge with 300KMH
That's not tire screeching, its the engine sound bouncing off the walls.
@@derbigpr500 listen again at 3:00
i'm absolutely not an expert, but this sounds like tire's screeching
@@yobrethren yeah, massas tyres were defo screeching...you can even see them deforming
@@s4ms0n1t3 well, deforming of tires may actually not be related to the tires screeching, but i might be wrong on this again
I'm very far from actualy calculations in Physics and how rubber and stuff react to each other, as well as sound efects and other. Just writing my comments on YT :D
@@yobrethren yeah, im basically agreeing with you
Thank you so much for the video!
I grew up in Indiana so naturally I’ve been to a many Indy 500 and NASCAR. Driving hard in an oval is what I knew. F1 was just something that I never was really into until recently.
So now I’m trying to catch up on the history of F1 races and drivers.
Right now I am fascinated with the history Eau Rouge (Radillion Actually lol).
I think that Belgium Spa is the greatest F1 track out there.
It is as exciting to watch as Isle of Man TT.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Imagine F1 cars, this generation on that old circuit, crazy thought to think.
Check out the series documentary Race to Perfection. It's about the history of F1 from the cars, innovation, drivers, teams etc... back when F1 was extreme, unlike today. F1 was my favorite sport from 1993 to 2013. The hybrid turbo era completely took out the 'Wow' factor. It's not extreme like it used to be. It was more pure back then. Now the cars are basically computers on wheels. Watch the documentary and you'll see why.
@@Vorgaloth thanks I will check it out.
Lewis Hamilton recently said that today’s F1 cars are too big, too wide, and too heavy. He would like to see F1 go smaller. He doesn’t know why they still race at Monaco, just to be a high speed F1 parade that can barely fit on the track.
I’m sure F1 would be awesome if they went back to V10/V8 and smaller cars.
@@edwardmonsariste4050 yeah Monaco isn’t actually supposed to be a grade one circuit but it’s Monaco so that FIA will just keep it, maybe 2022 with smaller cars will make it better for racing…
Interesting fact: Keke Rosberg was the first driver to take this section flat out back in 1983
1970 Pedro Rodriguez in a Porsche 917
@@Quadrant14 he meant in formula 1, smartass.
I like how old f1's literally need to downshift
The challenge of Eau Rouge has somewhat being diminished with the amount of downforce these modern cars have these days
@@ParcFermeF1 challenge has been lessened but the danger has been increased
@@remodluna7868 well I wouldn’t exactly say the danger is any more today than it used to be. Although cars are going faster, the safety technology of the current cars are far more advanced. The older cars had much less downforce than newer ones, thus making it more of a challenge to drive, among many other factors as well.
@@remodluna7868 It’s still a challenge for anyone who isn’t a F1 driver or any professional racing driver
@@mauricemotors8207 no shit
That '93 Prost footage is incredible!
The old TV cameras really give you the sense a of speed F1 cars really have
Yeah but know u can see the sponsors every second :D
0:28 Jean Alesi did a badass move there
Eau Rouge seems to have gotten easier to go through over the years. I'd love to see how Senna went through there in the late 80's McLaren's
It seems to have been both flattened and straightened since the 1980s. Put it back the way it used to be becase its not much of a challenge if it can be flat-footed.
@@epistte it's more of a challenge the faster you go, what kind of peanut brain thinks a slight lift is hard to do
Imagine going through Eau Rouge with traffic at over 180 mph.
Terrifying
reall great footage here
That's a crazy thought, even though we've seen that situation during the past races.
@@yobrethren Yeah defiantly, especially in the cockpit for the driver back in the day. And I love the footage too!
Nice vid on the greatest set of corners. Also !loved! to see the manual gear changes in the first few scenes, they made it something different. Also the camera quality through the years.....very enjoyable.
That 2020 lap by Ham was insane. Soooo much grip
Great race track and greatest curve on a track for sure! Proud to live nearby. Worth a visit!
So many things to point out but the most noticeable for me is the sound of the cars. They sound so civilized now .
Wow!!!
FANTASTIC video.
Thank you.
That's amazing, 1992, near flat
Soon to be 4 time world champion the year after, off the gas
Mansell had balls of steel
It may depend of the moment the footage was taken (qualifying, FP, race pace...).
He lifted. Great driver though.
Absolutely agree. It was the scariest footage of them all, in my opinion.
He lifted a little bit, right, but still an amazing drive considering the car he was on.
Nice choice for the 11-12! Didn't know they changed it for 94! thanks!
Congratulations and thank you for the video
I'm glad I got the chance to live this era and see on live TV Kimi's overtake on Schumacher and Webber on Fernando. You never forget that. And a couple of hundred meters ahead the legendary pass of Mika on Schumacher
Eau Rouge has to be one of the best corners on any race track , definitely F1 tracks , There is a series of corners at Bathurst in Australia that is just amazing . They call it accross the top of the mountain. Just too dangerous for F1.
The Corkscrew at Laguna Seca
@@eddieplenot I am not a motor bike fan but remember Wayne Gardner going through that bend on his 500cc bike . It was just amazing. Bathurst has become a little less dramatic now. There was a fantastic corner called the dipper where cars literally fell down the bend. That was flattened years ago. It is still an amazing bit of road though. It’s a public road but has a 60 km/hr limit on it. It doesn’t matter what time you try & drive it the highway patrol will be there at any time.
What's so special about Eau rouge? I think Raidillon is way more technical and more iconic
@@THIS---GUY It"s the same. The real name of this sector is "Raidillon de l'Eau Rouge".
@@denisgicquel6454 which translates directly into to steep path from Eau Rouge lol
Raidillon is the steep incline which is technical and beautiful. There's nothing special about Eau rouge except its a stream that goes underneath. The corner itself isn't anything exciting except it sets up approach to Raidillon. If Eau rouge was a straight instead of a turn we wouldn't notice. But if Raidillon was changed the entire track changes.
Seeing the rear view is when you truly see the real elevation 🔥
Love the footage from Couthard's and Mika's cars, look very authentic and there you can see the true speed an F1 machine is able to achieve
These corners are mostly taken flat out which is the beauty of it, combined with you looking at the sky for a few seconds with the downward g-forces is something truly unique, especially in the old f1 cars
the word you were looking for was negative G-force
2021: behind the safety car
Excelente video.!! 🤯
Thanks! It's somewhat a re-upload from my last channel that unfortunately got deleted. This video was doing so well, people loved it!
Very interesting! Thank you!
outstanding thank you
For those wondering why there was no 2003 or 2006 Belgian Grands Prix, the 2003 race was cancelled due to a dispute over tabaco sponsorship and the 2006 race didn't happen as the pit and paddock (as well as the final chicane) was being rebuilt
Mis respetos y admiración para el diseñador del trazado de Spa! 🙇🏻♂️
The steep right hander of Raidillon is so technical I love it. The modern F1 handle it so well one could forget how challenging it is.
Highlight of my week 👍👍🔥🔥
It will be true that today's single-seaters are the fastest ever, they consume less, they are more "efficient" and everything you want .... But, in my opinion, they are less adrenaline-pumping. After 2013, the engine looks like a brushcutter ..... do you want to put the scream of the v12 or the 10 cylinder? ..... Beautiful video, in any case, fantastic 🤩
0:24 Schumacher in front of Alesi.
Eau Rouge - awesome section of track. I love playing it. Spa is an excellent track all round.
Nice, thank you.
Great moments. If I recall properly, Jacques Villeneuve was the first to run Eau Rouge flat out
i thought he crashed when he did that...
I think it's Shumi in 1995.
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Yes , you absolutely right
5:45 that Leclerc clip is from 2019, not 2018 (in 2018 Leclerc drove Sauber). Also I think that the following Vettel clip is from 2018, not 2019.
Going into Eau Rouge in the 80s must be terrifying... Those cars could snap anytime and the wall is like 1 metre from you
And those drivers were bold
This is so good 👍
Man they used to sound so much better lol even the drivers no miss how they sounded even 5 years ago lol my favorite yesr for the way they sounded was 2013 and I at least wish they still sounded like they did in 2017-2018
The sound I'm afraid will never be the same, such a shame.
@@ParcFermeF1 (this is my experience and it might not be the same for you) i grow up with v8 and v10 sounds on f1, so ofc i love those sounds and prefer them over the new v6. But the thing with the f1-v6 sound is that you have to listen to it live, once you hear it up close how refined it is, you actually start liking it, otherwise you'll think they sound horrible on tv.
Hey man, look up some footage of Ayrton Senna in Monaco GP in the eighties.That car sound gives me the chills...
Sorry, it was 1990 monaco
The scream of the early 90s V12 Ferraris made your hair stand on end
Those cars sounded great until 2014 !!
Especially V8s
So many legends, great look back in time.
Amazing Circuit great video too been lucky done 15 track days at Spa
Gotta love the noise the old cars made 👍👍👍
That 2017 and 2018 Ferrari had that amazing upshift sound that smooth
I think you swapped "Leclerc 2018" (he was with Sauber-Alfa) with Vettel-2019. In 2019 Ferrari's halo was black, and there were no flaps on it.
Such a sequence under pressure, and without visibility. It's impressive!
I think the spectacle of speed is really defeated by the zoom on all of those pre-widescreen shots. Takes away slightly from how utterly terrifying Raidillon always way
Excellent material. Alan prost in my opinion, the less aggressive of all....
Thanks! Alain Prost was naturally a smooth and calculated driver, hence why he's called 'The Professor' - What a legend!
Alain Prost Footage was in race with full tank.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure on that 1991 Alesi onboard, we get to see Schumacher in the Jordan on his debut pulling off the track due to clutch failure.
That's correct! That was Michael Schumacher, unfortunately pulling off on Lap 1 at the 1991 Belgian GP on his F1 debut in the Jordan 191
Even if his car hadn't failed he could have pulled off - he'd already done all he needed to that weekend.
First AND LAST RACE with the Jordan team. Benett sign him right away!!!
BEAUTIFUL
1992 clip -- screaming like a mechanical banshee. What a sound!
2014 what a brutal and unfortunate change in engine sound :(
But now it is slighty better, but not on the level of the Bests V8s
All about efficiency nowadays
I love this video and concept
Thanks, much appreciated!
What I learned from this is that the aero packages have come a long way. Man how I would’ve wanted to hear that V10 scream. Also, pushing that hard to a blind corner….man…..
I could watch this corner all day
Beautiful, my favourite of all curves! x
*turns
@@ALPHABYTE64 I stand corrected but can't edit it unusually!
Raidillon: Flat since 2000.
That could be a nice tag line under the good circumstances.
Eau rouge was always flat they downshifted for Raidillon
@@THIS---GUY Point taken.
I literally was at Spa in 1989! Shocker, it rained…. College kid backpacking across Europe. Good times!
AMAZING
The overtaking once made my heart stop. Still after 2005 cars seem to get more downforce and it looks easier(except for the overtake moves)
I agree, it's to 'pedestrian' these days due to the advancement of technology and downforce specifically.
@@ParcFermeF1 and then we see crashes like last weekend and realise that whilst it looks easy when it goes right, it's terrifying and deadly when it goes wrong.
Época boa do motor V10 na Fórmula 1!
The weather is always beautiful at Spa 👍
Amazing... I miss old times....
It is getting easier and easier with a lot of technology
Most defiantly, the challenge and awe of Eau Rouge has been lost since the implementation of new technology.
@@ParcFermeF1 Racing in general.
Pra mim, a pista da Bélgica é a melhor de toda F1. Nurburgring no formato antigo era boa também
Mighty Spa!!! The run down to Eau Rouge/Raidillon with the Kemmel Straight as the reward, is Formula 1 to me!!!
Also notice how the cars increased in size.
80s F1 = go karts 2010s F1 = Cadillacs
I love the sound of williams in 1990 and 1992
Same here, it just so exhilarating! That Renault engine was a very solid engine during the 90's.
The images and SOUND of Senna on-board in Monaco 1990...spinechilling.
My conclusion to this video: wow that 1992 williams was some car!
It had abs, traction control and start asist
Diferença de som do motor é gritante ....sdds dos anos 90 ...2000
2:33 that backwards camera actually makes it much clearer just how high the hill is, you can never appreciate it as they fly up it like it's not even there.
I think we all miss the good sound engines of the past.
A corner that can make or break you on the F1 game.
I think everyone can relate to this^ 😂
This is a very interesting video, it seems like cornering speeds haven’t really improved by what you would call a very significant amount across a few decades, but the stability through the corner is night and day.
Well i think they did. If you listen you can hear older cars slow down and even downshift, and later the commentator explains how drivers lift off the throttle a bit, and in modern cars they push the accelerator to the ground all the way through.
The 2004 BMW Williams is probably my all time favorite V10 sound, it's got a unique banshee scream to it, very different to the other manufactures.
That sound from those sweet sounding V12's, 10's and 8's to what virtually sounds like a tractor is jarring.
All about efficiency nowadays
@@lilromi. Well it's boring.
@@mattmurray9312 It’s only boring to people that prefer noise over F1 engineering… Are you even an F1 fan if you think that way? The whole point of F1 is to push limits of car engineering- not noise levels.
I like a good noise and the engineering. Remember also that motor racing is about the noise too. And it is a huge part of the appeal. So, yeah I think they sound dull and boring. And I watch less F1 because of it.
@@dianamaioru497. Obviously you don't care about a great engine note.
5:45 Charles only drive for Ferrari in 2019,that's kimi probably
Because that is 2019 not 2018
Man that w11 is something special
Mark Webber and Kimi overtakes are breath taking
respectively on Alonso and Schumacher.....
add 2021 with Mylander
0:29 Schumacher burned his clutch.
*Jean Alesi*
@@ytbeast1763in front u fool
1:32 Excited Murray Walker voice cutting in on calm Murray Walker voice to describe Eau Rouge is fantastic.
The cars through this corner in 2021 was unbelievable!
Wasnt Schumacher the first f1 driver to go flat through Eau Rouge in 95?
Rosberg in 1983. Senna also was one of the firsts. You can find a clip of him behind Prost, when they passed through the Eau Rouge, Senna almost kissed Prost’s gearbox.
Hate to say it, hamilton's drive is perfect
Put Hamilton on a old school car 😂😂😂
@@dosescopetastengo6581 hamilton already drove a MP4/4
@@dosescopetastengo6581 Put Senna in Hamilton's W11 instead. He'd probably pass out from the g-force.
@@INFEDnoX maby because it’s something new but after a time every Formular driver would get used to it, or should to stay
@@rockvettel7497 And I'm sure after a few sessions in an old school car, Hamilton - one of the best drivers on earth - would get used to that, too. That's kinda the point.
Glad to see my idol (Mika hakkinen) in this vid. I always love watching that guy drive
The most beautiful racetrack ❤️