I like what former F1 driver and commentator David Hobbs said about Spa; “It’s such a long track that when you’re driving it, you really have the sense of going somewhere, instead of just going in circles.” I had the good fortune to take a business trip to Europe over my birthday weekend one year, and found myself at Spa for the GP, where I checked off a huge item on my bucket list. It was 2 years after they changed engine packages, so I didn’t get to hear the shriek of the V10’s, but Eau Rouge is hairy in any car, and it was a dream come true to be there.
David Hobbs was talking about the old Spa track which was twice as long as todays track. Also it was across public roads and crazy fast in comparison to nowadays
@@rofufoja was crazy fast but literally 80% of the track was just flat out,super long straights.Wouldn't be a good track today imo because cars with more down force like rb would stand no chance against high straight line speed cars like merc
@@keashin2844 Would be spectacular in almost every other division of racing without or with little aero and especially historics imo. Although quite dangerous 😄
2:22 Random fact: Back in the early 2000's you normally couldn't take Raidillon flat with the race setup on, but on that occasion Mika decided to risk it all and it resulted in one of the best overtakes in the history of F1
Doesn't seem true at all. Schumacher in 1996 is clearly going flat out through Raidillon. The drop in revs you are hearing is due to the steepness of the incline, not the drivers lifting their foot off the gas.
Thats same time where cell phones comes with camera on them too and colored screen. Computers has age up too so technology was improving very fast that time
The transition from analogue to digital recording/encoding in broadcast television began in 2000. Cool to see the maturation of the camera tech through that transition.
You are right. I noticed that to. But in some Point, the Corner actually become more easy with the Years. So you are right in both Points. When the Cars are able to take the Corner Flat Out, that means, that it is an easy Corner, and the Car is still not on his Limit. So Eau Rouge was way harder back in the Days, when the had to take the Corner on the actuall Limit of the Car. Today it is far away from the Cars Limit, and so it is an Easy Corner.
There’s a mistake in 2018 and 2019. Charles Leclerc did join F1. Except that in 2018, he was a driver for Alfa Romeo/Sauber. In 2019, he joined Ferrari. So you mixed Charles Leclerc’s 2019 onboard with Sebastian Vettel’s 2018 Onboard.
@@remodluna7868 well I wouldn’t exactly say the danger is any more today than it used to be. Although cars are going faster, the safety technology of the current cars are far more advanced. The older cars had much less downforce than newer ones, thus making it more of a challenge to drive, among many other factors as well.
nah the '87 driver here is really shit. For some reason he's too scared to go fast through Eau Rouge despite being a professional racing driver. Prost and Senna would've gone much faster trough there
@@s4ms0n1t3 well, deforming of tires may actually not be related to the tires screeching, but i might be wrong on this again I'm very far from actualy calculations in Physics and how rubber and stuff react to each other, as well as sound efects and other. Just writing my comments on YT :D
Thank you so much for the video! I grew up in Indiana so naturally I’ve been to a many Indy 500 and NASCAR. Driving hard in an oval is what I knew. F1 was just something that I never was really into until recently. So now I’m trying to catch up on the history of F1 races and drivers. Right now I am fascinated with the history Eau Rouge (Radillion Actually lol). I think that Belgium Spa is the greatest F1 track out there. It is as exciting to watch as Isle of Man TT.
Check out the series documentary Race to Perfection. It's about the history of F1 from the cars, innovation, drivers, teams etc... back when F1 was extreme, unlike today. F1 was my favorite sport from 1993 to 2013. The hybrid turbo era completely took out the 'Wow' factor. It's not extreme like it used to be. It was more pure back then. Now the cars are basically computers on wheels. Watch the documentary and you'll see why.
@@Vorgaloth thanks I will check it out. Lewis Hamilton recently said that today’s F1 cars are too big, too wide, and too heavy. He would like to see F1 go smaller. He doesn’t know why they still race at Monaco, just to be a high speed F1 parade that can barely fit on the track. I’m sure F1 would be awesome if they went back to V10/V8 and smaller cars.
@@edwardmonsariste4050 yeah Monaco isn’t actually supposed to be a grade one circuit but it’s Monaco so that FIA will just keep it, maybe 2022 with smaller cars will make it better for racing…
For those wondering why there was no 2003 or 2006 Belgian Grands Prix, the 2003 race was cancelled due to a dispute over tabaco sponsorship and the 2006 race didn't happen as the pit and paddock (as well as the final chicane) was being rebuilt
It seems to have been both flattened and straightened since the 1980s. Put it back the way it used to be becase its not much of a challenge if it can be flat-footed.
Such a reminder how traction control changed the Formula 1, as you can hear full throttle in Eau Rouge for the first time in 1995. and 1996. Before 1994 everyone had to lift.
Eau Rouge has to be one of the best corners on any race track , definitely F1 tracks , There is a series of corners at Bathurst in Australia that is just amazing . They call it accross the top of the mountain. Just too dangerous for F1.
@@eddieplenot I am not a motor bike fan but remember Wayne Gardner going through that bend on his 500cc bike . It was just amazing. Bathurst has become a little less dramatic now. There was a fantastic corner called the dipper where cars literally fell down the bend. That was flattened years ago. It is still an amazing bit of road though. It’s a public road but has a 60 km/hr limit on it. It doesn’t matter what time you try & drive it the highway patrol will be there at any time.
@@denisgicquel6454 which translates directly into to steep path from Eau Rouge lol Raidillon is the steep incline which is technical and beautiful. There's nothing special about Eau rouge except its a stream that goes underneath. The corner itself isn't anything exciting except it sets up approach to Raidillon. If Eau rouge was a straight instead of a turn we wouldn't notice. But if Raidillon was changed the entire track changes.
@@ParcFermeF1 and then we see crashes like last weekend and realise that whilst it looks easy when it goes right, it's terrifying and deadly when it goes wrong.
I’m over the paddle/sequential transmissions. I know f1 has had it for a while, but i cant get over the old videos of drivers going balls to the wall with a maunal gearbox and completely being in tune with the car. Racing seems kind of easy now.
Man they used to sound so much better lol even the drivers no miss how they sounded even 5 years ago lol my favorite yesr for the way they sounded was 2013 and I at least wish they still sounded like they did in 2017-2018
@@ParcFermeF1 (this is my experience and it might not be the same for you) i grow up with v8 and v10 sounds on f1, so ofc i love those sounds and prefer them over the new v6. But the thing with the f1-v6 sound is that you have to listen to it live, once you hear it up close how refined it is, you actually start liking it, otherwise you'll think they sound horrible on tv.
From the time they make the first little left turn to start the run through Eau Rouge until they get to the left hand kink at the top of the rise, its approximately 3 seconds, give or take, even for the early 90s cars. Probably the single best set of high speed turns in motor racing anywhere in the world ... and Formula One cars go through it all in 3 or so seconds. Its almost blink and you'll miss it.
Rosberg in 1983. Senna also was one of the firsts. You can find a clip of him behind Prost, when they passed through the Eau Rouge, Senna almost kissed Prost’s gearbox.
If you notice, in 1994 there is a chicane because of the widespread response to Imola that same year.
Yep, that's correct. Thank goodness it was only for one year and one year only!
Response to Ayrton senna incident?
@@SongShiyu senna and roland
@@SongShiyu Yes and as @CristianPortela mentioned, Roland Ratzenberger too.
@@ParcFermeF1 Hubert would be still alive if the 1994 version would been the permanent solution. It's a shame they went back to danger in 1995.
I like what former F1 driver and commentator David Hobbs said about Spa; “It’s such a long track that when you’re driving it, you really have the sense of going somewhere, instead of just going in circles.” I had the good fortune to take a business trip to Europe over my birthday weekend one year, and found myself at Spa for the GP, where I checked off a huge item on my bucket list. It was 2 years after they changed engine packages, so I didn’t get to hear the shriek of the V10’s, but Eau Rouge is hairy in any car, and it was a dream come true to be there.
David Hobbs was talking about the old Spa track which was twice as long as todays track. Also it was across public roads and crazy fast in comparison to nowadays
@@rofufoja was crazy fast but literally 80% of the track was just flat out,super long straights.Wouldn't be a good track today imo because cars with more down force like rb would stand no chance against high straight line speed cars like merc
@@keashin2844 Would be spectacular in almost every other division of racing without or with little aero and especially historics imo. Although quite dangerous 😄
Its almost perfect only downside its located in the shithole called Belgium
@@keashin2844 this year look like the rb have both straight and downforce 👀
1987: Break Shift down a gear half throttle up the hill then flat out
2020: Flat out the whole way through
Nakajima was also going hella slow in there.
Back then they used the arms to make the car steer, not the fingers like the pussies of today
@@80sf1fan2 tf does electronic steering has to do with throttle you donut?
@@80sf1fan2 you know something called downforce right?
@@koyomiee1446 im'talking about power steering, and those cars were scary powerful
2:22 Random fact:
Back in the early 2000's you normally couldn't take Raidillon flat with the race setup on, but on that occasion Mika decided to risk it all and it resulted in one of the best overtakes in the history of F1
Can even see it next year with Villeneuve lifting, then the year after that Coulthard is flat out, they were that close! Thanks for pointing that out!
Doesn't seem true at all. Schumacher in 1996 is clearly going flat out through Raidillon. The drop in revs you are hearing is due to the steepness of the incline, not the drivers lifting their foot off the gas.
Huge difference in video quality from 2000s to 2004s, like it is middle ages to future
Yep that's right, don't think they'll be coming back anytime soon too :(
Thats same time where cell phones comes with camera on them too and colored screen. Computers has age up too so technology was improving very fast that time
The transition from analogue to digital recording/encoding in broadcast television began in 2000. Cool to see the maturation of the camera tech through that transition.
How I feel with normal vision vs my glasses 💀
@@THIS---GUY LMFAO, same here...! Lol
Man that w11 is something special
2:25 seconds before one of the best overtakes.
I went to look for it !! Thanks pal
also at 6:03
Here too 6:03
6:03 Aswell
so is 6:03
The transition of 2013-14 was so sudden, it caught me off guard.
It's funny how the faster the cars actually go, the slower they appear and the easier the corner looks.
Thaks to camera stabilization.
@@AlexandreMS71 Its more because of the field of view+camera hight from the ground.
One word. . . Downforce
You are right. I noticed that to.
But in some Point, the Corner actually become more easy with the Years. So you are right in both Points.
When the Cars are able to take the Corner Flat Out, that means, that it is an easy Corner, and the Car is still not on his Limit.
So Eau Rouge was way harder back in the Days, when the had to take the Corner on the actuall Limit of the Car.
Today it is far away from the Cars Limit, and so it is an Easy Corner.
@@kallo182 no it isn’t
It’s harder cause you’re going much faster
This is so good 👍
Interesting fact: Keke Rosberg was the first driver to take this section flat out back in 1983
1970 Pedro Rodriguez in a Porsche 917
@@Quadrant14 he meant in formula 1, smartass.
BEAUTIFUL
4:17 Balls of steel
Nice, thank you.
0:24 Schumacher in front of Alesi.
There’s a mistake in 2018 and 2019. Charles Leclerc did join F1. Except that in 2018, he was a driver for Alfa Romeo/Sauber. In 2019, he joined Ferrari. So you mixed Charles Leclerc’s 2019 onboard with Sebastian Vettel’s 2018 Onboard.
Great video but the labelled ‘2018’ clip is actually Leclerc from 2019 and the ‘2019’ clip is Vettel from 2018 :).
I know, I'm so annoyed about it haha, oh well
Leclerc did'nt even drive at Ferrari in 2018
@@Super-kid1886 Made a unfortunate mistake.
Yeah
Yeah hahahaha it can happend
I literally was at Spa in 1989! Shocker, it rained…. College kid backpacking across Europe. Good times!
2021: behind the safety car
old f1 cars and circuits the best
add 2021 with Mylander
Schumacher 2005 was so smooth. Effortless. I was there at bottom of eau rouge that year.
Brillaint!
it's amazing how planted the modern F1 cars are. They look so smooth and controlled; unphased by all the small bumps and kerbs.
Also the camera stabilization is much better.
love the older cars
Thats why old onboards are fun to watch
This didn’t age well :)
@@patrickdej2696 haha. it certainly didn't. 10G bouncing now
That '93 Prost footage is incredible!
I like how old f1's literally need to downshift
The challenge of Eau Rouge has somewhat being diminished with the amount of downforce these modern cars have these days
@@ParcFermeF1 challenge has been lessened but the danger has been increased
@@remodluna7868 well I wouldn’t exactly say the danger is any more today than it used to be. Although cars are going faster, the safety technology of the current cars are far more advanced. The older cars had much less downforce than newer ones, thus making it more of a challenge to drive, among many other factors as well.
@@remodluna7868 It’s still a challenge for anyone who isn’t a F1 driver or any professional racing driver
@@mauricemotors8207 no shit
Also notice how the cars increased in size.
80s F1 = go karts 2010s F1 = Cadillacs
Imagine going through Eau Rouge with traffic at over 180 mph.
Terrifying
reall great footage here
That's a crazy thought, even though we've seen that situation during the past races.
@@yobrethren Yeah defiantly, especially in the cockpit for the driver back in the day. And I love the footage too!
The difference in the sounds of F1 with the current engines compared to past F1 power plants is so depressing. 😢
Loved listening to Murray Walker and watching Schumacher. 👍
Yeah same here, the guy was just so passionate about the sport. One of a kind Murray was!
2021…. Can t wait to see the safety car video
Amazing the downshift and lift in 1987 compared to the slight lift through the 90s and now flat out in modern cars.
Have another look at 94 and 95 😉
Man, it's Satoru Nakajima on video, you're not comparing cars, but drivers. Senna used to be 4 to 5 seconds faster than Nakajima in Lotus.
@AndyVinPlayz oh, I made a mistake. Schumacher didn't lift through Eau Rouge in 95 and 96
@@MrQlife in 98 and 99 Villeneuve tried to go flat out in raidillon but spins and crashed heavily
nah the '87 driver here is really shit. For some reason he's too scared to go fast through Eau Rouge despite being a professional racing driver. Prost and Senna would've gone much faster trough there
This section always gives me fits
2:55 (i probably *really* wrong here but) absolutely shuddering hearing tire screech while going over second crest on Eau Rouge with 300KMH
That's not tire screeching, its the engine sound bouncing off the walls.
@@derbigpr500 listen again at 3:00
i'm absolutely not an expert, but this sounds like tire's screeching
@@yobrethren yeah, massas tyres were defo screeching...you can even see them deforming
@@s4ms0n1t3 well, deforming of tires may actually not be related to the tires screeching, but i might be wrong on this again
I'm very far from actualy calculations in Physics and how rubber and stuff react to each other, as well as sound efects and other. Just writing my comments on YT :D
@@yobrethren yeah, im basically agreeing with you
Leclerc joined Ferrari in 2019, he was at Alpha in 2018.
Thank you so much for the video!
I grew up in Indiana so naturally I’ve been to a many Indy 500 and NASCAR. Driving hard in an oval is what I knew. F1 was just something that I never was really into until recently.
So now I’m trying to catch up on the history of F1 races and drivers.
Right now I am fascinated with the history Eau Rouge (Radillion Actually lol).
I think that Belgium Spa is the greatest F1 track out there.
It is as exciting to watch as Isle of Man TT.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Imagine F1 cars, this generation on that old circuit, crazy thought to think.
Check out the series documentary Race to Perfection. It's about the history of F1 from the cars, innovation, drivers, teams etc... back when F1 was extreme, unlike today. F1 was my favorite sport from 1993 to 2013. The hybrid turbo era completely took out the 'Wow' factor. It's not extreme like it used to be. It was more pure back then. Now the cars are basically computers on wheels. Watch the documentary and you'll see why.
@@Vorgaloth thanks I will check it out.
Lewis Hamilton recently said that today’s F1 cars are too big, too wide, and too heavy. He would like to see F1 go smaller. He doesn’t know why they still race at Monaco, just to be a high speed F1 parade that can barely fit on the track.
I’m sure F1 would be awesome if they went back to V10/V8 and smaller cars.
@@edwardmonsariste4050 yeah Monaco isn’t actually supposed to be a grade one circuit but it’s Monaco so that FIA will just keep it, maybe 2022 with smaller cars will make it better for racing…
5:45 that's a very red Sauber 😨
That Webber overtake, I never get sick of watching it.
How brave, with zero room for error. Fantastic move
I think if at any time in his career Alonzo ever said wtf, that was it.
AMAZING
0:28 Jean Alesi did a badass move there
2018 and 2019 had the clips swapped around.
That 2020 lap by Ham was insane. Soooo much grip
This part is insane
For those wondering why there was no 2003 or 2006 Belgian Grands Prix, the 2003 race was cancelled due to a dispute over tabaco sponsorship and the 2006 race didn't happen as the pit and paddock (as well as the final chicane) was being rebuilt
You inverted 2018 and 2019
2014 what a brutal and unfortunate change in engine sound :(
But now it is slighty better, but not on the level of the Bests V8s
All about efficiency nowadays
Schumacher, the last gladiator. Ferocious..!
And now with the accidents you see the stupid new fans saying the most iconic corner in the Motorsport should be slowed down...
Its amazing how micky mouse the 98 cars with their narrow chassis and grooved tyres looked compared to the 80s cars
Mistake at 5:50, Leclerc came to Ferrari at 2019 and not in 2018.
So many things to point out but the most noticeable for me is the sound of the cars. They sound so civilized now .
Seeing the rear view is when you truly see the real elevation 🔥
2018 footage wrong, LEC #16 was in Sauber
Those cars sounded great until 2014 !!
Especially V8s
The Early 2000's cars Where crazy ... 15-16.000 rpm......wow
Eau Rouge seems to have gotten easier to go through over the years. I'd love to see how Senna went through there in the late 80's McLaren's
It seems to have been both flattened and straightened since the 1980s. Put it back the way it used to be becase its not much of a challenge if it can be flat-footed.
@@epistte it's more of a challenge the faster you go, what kind of peanut brain thinks a slight lift is hard to do
The pre-computer controlled everything days were frighteningly amazing. Just a man trying to control a rocket.
A corner that can make or break you on the F1 game.
I think everyone can relate to this^ 😂
But Leclerc wasn’t racing for Ferrari back in 2018. He was racing for Sauber. There’s a mistake at 5:50
Alesi Ferrari sound (clip 3) is magic!
Video showing The Eau Rouge without the King of SPA with McLaren??? I'm sorry but this video is incomplete big time!!
True, but at least he still featured in the 2009 Ferrari F60 for which Kimi Raikkonen went on to win the 2009 Belgian Grand Prix.
@@ParcFermeF1 your reason is well justified. I think i have to Accept it
Such a reminder how traction control changed the Formula 1, as you can hear full throttle in Eau Rouge for the first time in 1995. and 1996. Before 1994 everyone had to lift.
Eau Rouge has to be one of the best corners on any race track , definitely F1 tracks , There is a series of corners at Bathurst in Australia that is just amazing . They call it accross the top of the mountain. Just too dangerous for F1.
The Corkscrew at Laguna Seca
@@eddieplenot I am not a motor bike fan but remember Wayne Gardner going through that bend on his 500cc bike . It was just amazing. Bathurst has become a little less dramatic now. There was a fantastic corner called the dipper where cars literally fell down the bend. That was flattened years ago. It is still an amazing bit of road though. It’s a public road but has a 60 km/hr limit on it. It doesn’t matter what time you try & drive it the highway patrol will be there at any time.
What's so special about Eau rouge? I think Raidillon is way more technical and more iconic
@@THIS---GUY It"s the same. The real name of this sector is "Raidillon de l'Eau Rouge".
@@denisgicquel6454 which translates directly into to steep path from Eau Rouge lol
Raidillon is the steep incline which is technical and beautiful. There's nothing special about Eau rouge except its a stream that goes underneath. The corner itself isn't anything exciting except it sets up approach to Raidillon. If Eau rouge was a straight instead of a turn we wouldn't notice. But if Raidillon was changed the entire track changes.
I hate how long f1 cars are now. I loved the shorter cars and narrow tracks
5:45 Charles only drive for Ferrari in 2019,that's kimi probably
Because that is 2019 not 2018
2019 clip was actually the 2018
Because Leclerc was in Sauber in 2018, so the 2018 clip was from the 2019
Raidillon: Flat since 2000.
That could be a nice tag line under the good circumstances.
Eau rouge was always flat they downshifted for Raidillon
@@THIS---GUY Point taken.
thanks for the Ayrton eau rouge
My conclusion to this video: wow that 1992 williams was some car!
It had abs, traction control and start asist
I like it when nigel mansel did the old eau rouge flat
I love the sound of williams in 1990 and 1992
Same here, it just so exhilarating! That Renault engine was a very solid engine during the 90's.
The images and SOUND of Senna on-board in Monaco 1990...spinechilling.
Circuit seems much less bumpier nowadays. Older versions looked much bumpier.
The old TV cameras really give you the sense a of speed F1 cars really have
Yeah but know u can see the sponsors every second :D
The track looks so much bigger with the older cars not being as big as the new ones, the older cars could actually go 2-3 wide on eau rouge
The overtaking once made my heart stop. Still after 2005 cars seem to get more downforce and it looks easier(except for the overtake moves)
I agree, it's to 'pedestrian' these days due to the advancement of technology and downforce specifically.
@@ParcFermeF1 and then we see crashes like last weekend and realise that whilst it looks easy when it goes right, it's terrifying and deadly when it goes wrong.
1992 clip -- screaming like a mechanical banshee. What a sound!
Oh those v8s...
I miss those screaming V8 engines 😪
I’m over the paddle/sequential transmissions. I know f1 has had it for a while, but i cant get over the old videos of drivers going balls to the wall with a maunal gearbox and completely being in tune with the car. Racing seems kind of easy now.
0:29 Schumacher burned his clutch.
*Jean Alesi*
@@ytbeast1763in front u fool
There was absolutely nothing to learn here. Great corner but with the exception of 1994 and a few lives taken the corner hasn't changed.
Época boa do motor V10 na Fórmula 1!
the sound ❤❤❤
It is getting easier and easier with a lot of technology
Most defiantly, the challenge and awe of Eau Rouge has been lost since the implementation of new technology.
@@ParcFermeF1 Racing in general.
2021 onboard - Camera with "Pain" written in the middle of it
I think you swapped "Leclerc 2018" (he was with Sauber-Alfa) with Vettel-2019. In 2019 Ferrari's halo was black, and there were no flaps on it.
I miss the v12, v10, and v8 sound.
5:45 that Leclerc clip is from 2019, not 2018 (in 2018 Leclerc drove Sauber). Also I think that the following Vettel clip is from 2018, not 2019.
You got 2018 and 2019 the wrong way around, but great video!
Prost is so smooth
No wonder why he's called 'The Professor'
The charles leclerc one was 2019 and the sebastian vettel onw was 2018
Man they used to sound so much better lol even the drivers no miss how they sounded even 5 years ago lol my favorite yesr for the way they sounded was 2013 and I at least wish they still sounded like they did in 2017-2018
The sound I'm afraid will never be the same, such a shame.
@@ParcFermeF1 (this is my experience and it might not be the same for you) i grow up with v8 and v10 sounds on f1, so ofc i love those sounds and prefer them over the new v6. But the thing with the f1-v6 sound is that you have to listen to it live, once you hear it up close how refined it is, you actually start liking it, otherwise you'll think they sound horrible on tv.
Hey man, look up some footage of Ayrton Senna in Monaco GP in the eighties.That car sound gives me the chills...
Sorry, it was 1990 monaco
The scream of the early 90s V12 Ferraris made your hair stand on end
From the time they make the first little left turn to start the run through Eau Rouge until they get to the left hand kink at the top of the rise, its approximately 3 seconds, give or take, even for the early 90s cars.
Probably the single best set of high speed turns in motor racing anywhere in the world ... and Formula One cars go through it all in 3 or so seconds. Its almost blink and you'll miss it.
Wasnt Schumacher the first f1 driver to go flat through Eau Rouge in 95?
Rosberg in 1983. Senna also was one of the firsts. You can find a clip of him behind Prost, when they passed through the Eau Rouge, Senna almost kissed Prost’s gearbox.
It seems like the bottom was filled in around '96 to make it smoother transition to go flat out to the top..
Nice choice for the 11-12! Didn't know they changed it for 94! thanks!
I see this vídeo after see a Senna phrase: when eau rouge Will pass flat in the throttle, the F1 Will be boring...
Going into Eau Rouge in the 80s must be terrifying... Those cars could snap anytime and the wall is like 1 metre from you
And those drivers were bold
4:49 and here you see (and hear) when F1 died.
Ikr 😢😢😢😢
Legend
Excellent material. Alan prost in my opinion, the less aggressive of all....
Thanks! Alain Prost was naturally a smooth and calculated driver, hence why he's called 'The Professor' - What a legend!
Alain Prost Footage was in race with full tank.
That early eau rouge gives me horrible memories of Stefan Belofs accident