Problematic F1 Cars - 2022 Mercedes W13

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  • In today's video covering another problematic F1 car, I take a look into the 2022 Mercedes W13. I wanted to first take a look at what Mercedes did right to be so dominant throughout the turbo-hybrid era, and then deconstruct what went wrong with Mercedes going into the new regulations that made the W13 and W14 so uncompetitive.
    MUSIC - Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio
    2022 Mercedes W13 problems. 2023 Mercedes W14 problems. Will Mercedes abandon their sidepod design? Will it look more like the Red Bull or Ferrari? We'll know soon.

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  • @adityawardanasujaya
    @adityawardanasujaya ปีที่แล้ว +142

    “a letter to fans. kind of embarrassing and cringe” true that 😂😂

    • @mvd4436
      @mvd4436 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Race winning car. George Russell had 8 podiums and 19 top 5's. But George doesnt count for the Hamilton shills I guess

    • @dchia29
      @dchia29 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The results were good for George coming from a Williams but remember this is a title contending WORKS team fighting for 3rd. By their standards it was a failure compared to RB or Ferrari.
      If their goal was to respond to the 2021 season and win a championship, by their standards they failed.
      Also the victory in Brazil wasn’t on merit and gave the team a false sense of progress leading them down the-same path for 2022.
      You could be happy for George getting the occasional podium but I’d be happier if they were fighting for the championship not happy with a 3rd place podium finish.

  • @FatherWaffle
    @FatherWaffle ปีที่แล้ว +78

    “The car that could have been” so true. I’m a RedBull fan and when I saw the Mercedes zero side pod in 2022 before the season, I thought “oh crap, this looks NOTHING like the other cars! They found the loophole and are going to dominate for another 4 years” until 2026. And I was GENUINELY shocked when the car turned out to be problematic

    • @legoferrari14
      @legoferrari14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Team Brackley designed the title winning car of the first year in the last three Technical Regulation overhauls prior to 2022 (2009 as Brawn inheriting Honda's concepts, then 2014 and 2017 as Mercedes-Benz) so them missing the mark with the 2022 car was a huge surprise to everyone; especially since Mercedes were damn-near untouchable between 2014-2020, and Red Bull had double down in 2021 to make Merc bleed by taking the Drivers, causing people to expect Red Bull to fall back into their vicious cycle where after Mercedes had already held a successful title defence, Red Bull would finally catch up on pace only to fall back all over again at the start of the next season.
      The fact that Mercedes' relative performance is now even _worse_ to the point of currently being stuck behind Aston Martin; a *customer* team that uses a number of shared mechanical components and testing apparatus tells me that something's gone wrong in the chassis & aero development and Mercedes either don't know what's wrong or are too stubborn to admit it, or at least were prior to the upgrades coming in later this year.

    • @mvd4436
      @mvd4436 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Umm George Russell got 8 podiums, 19 top 5's and a race win in that car.

    • @sennescholten7278
      @sennescholten7278 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@mvd4436
      It was not able to win a title and that is for a top team not good enough.

    • @FabianDialer-vw1zk
      @FabianDialer-vw1zk ปีที่แล้ว

      I was laughing so hard when they fell so far behind. I had a feeling it was going to fail.

    • @a.k._v10
      @a.k._v10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No sidepods is one of the most insane innovations I’ve ever seen in my time watching F1. It is truly groundbreaking and aero benefits will be huge, don’t need a wind tunnel to see that. With development on PU limited it’ll be hard to replicate - advantage locked in for years?

  • @JarretM.
    @JarretM. ปีที่แล้ว +95

    This series is cool, I suggest for the next one you do the Renault R27! Off the back of 2 straight double titles, they become midfielders…

    • @jonnyf1
      @jonnyf1  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you! I like the idea 👀 added to the list

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Also the 1998 Williams car would be worth a shout to do

    • @JarretM.
      @JarretM. ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 yeah, winning the title in 1997 to barely being within the midfield

    • @stinkyroadhog1347
      @stinkyroadhog1347 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      IMO the R27 was every bit as good as the R26 and had Fernando stayed or another top star driver been dropped into that car, it would've challenged for the title but for that season they had Fisichella and Kovaleinen and well we know they weren't particularly quick drivers even when given machinery that could easily win races

    • @JarretM.
      @JarretM. ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@stinkyroadhog1347 well like you said, that’s in your opinion. but ferrari and mclaren were much faster, even the sauber was quicker than the r27. yes maybe if fernando stayed he would be fighting for podiums, but rarely wins. not to mention the mass damper was gone, flawing the car even more than the late season r26.

  • @user-pk9ue1jn4j
    @user-pk9ue1jn4j ปีที่แล้ว +19

    So good high quality videos man, vant believe this is a new channel, keep on the good work❤

    • @jonnyf1
      @jonnyf1  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate that 🙏 thank you

  • @Usedtobebillie
    @Usedtobebillie ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why some people simply dismiss history by denying that Ferrari was actually faster in 2017 and 2018 just they lost because Hamilton didn’t made mistakes. I think it’s because it fits their narrative, so they pretend 17 and 18 were “dominant” seasons.

    • @vHiddenAce
      @vHiddenAce ปีที่แล้ว

      Did Charles Leclerc obtain the most pole positions in 2019's Ferrari too?

  • @haryosoo
    @haryosoo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "... they had infinite money to dump at any problems they encountered"
    You meant Toyota F1 Team? While it is to an extent true to AMG-Mercedes, they also have the right people and mindset plus the capital to tackle their problems.

  • @jayman81424
    @jayman81424 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Suggesting Merc were in a league of their own in 2017/2018 is just wrong. Ferrari got close both times and then crumbled. Lewis in the 2018 Ferrari probably wins WDC. Additionally, saying Merc could just outspend everyone, like those little companies like Ferrari and RedBull is odd.

  • @sebz7248
    @sebz7248 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video! I also think another 2022 car that completely fell through was the AT03. AlphaTauri/Toro Rosso used to constantly be a midfield threat and a lot of the time be leading or be close to leading the midfield. Seeing them fall off that hard in 2022 was pretty disappointing

  • @BrownGuyDoesLife
    @BrownGuyDoesLife ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am liking this series! You have my sub
    Would you consider covering the Red Bull RB10 from 2014?

    • @sergioferrero46
      @sergioferrero46 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be interesting, but in that case, most of the disappointment came not strictly from the car but from the low-powered, unreliable Renault PU

  • @maxmagnus3793
    @maxmagnus3793 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly the 2022 regs have exposed the Merc design team. In 2014 the Mercedes power unit was so good that it catapulted its customer teams up the order, just look at Williams. Merc literally turned down the engine by 10-15% or something to appear less dominant. Now that there is no Merc power advantage and no infinite money advantage, Mercedes just isn't the best team anymore

    • @ibrahimkalmati9379
      @ibrahimkalmati9379 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no they expose nothing. it would be like saying 2009 expose Ferrari or 2014 expose RB
      every wining streak must come end.

  • @noahdyson840
    @noahdyson840 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro you are under rated

  • @chellom292
    @chellom292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But I don’t know how Mercedes threatened redbull and ferrari with this car
    They had almost more or same race with rb and ferrari at British gp and Dutch gp to

  • @rsoxboy
    @rsoxboy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really cool series man. I'd hate to pick on McLaren, but they have a long list of problematic cars to choose from if you want to make a video. You could choose any of their cars from the years 2004, 2006, 2013, or 2015.
    Their 2004 or 2013 cars could make for a compelling video. Their 2004 car was plagued with issues after Kimi almost won the title in 2003. And 2013 was really the beginning of the downfall for McLaren at the sharp end of the grid.

  • @mastermrz8287
    @mastermrz8287 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Quality video, only critique is how fast you talk during some points of the video. Had to put it on .75x speed to follow along.

  • @energeticfra100
    @energeticfra100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro i saw the other video of the Ferrari F60 i think your channel is very good , keep grinding, nice job

    • @jonnyf1
      @jonnyf1  ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate that so much, thank you

  • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
    @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:29 the only think I’ll say is that this overlooks the 2017 regulations changes
    These were the biggest car regulation changes aerodynamically wise since 1998 or 2009 when they went to 2M wide cars fatter tires and a lot of more aerodynamic development allowed
    You can see the difference in lap times between 2016 and 2017

  • @tun04
    @tun04 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't agree with 'u 2017/2021 era looks so so much better than 2022/2023

  • @deeznoots6241
    @deeznoots6241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only it was great, instead of redbull dominance we could have had a Silver war

  • @nikomoin7604
    @nikomoin7604 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uff 2021 Cars look much better than 22 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @just4justincase
    @just4justincase 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thing is in theory zero pods should incresase aerodynamics by a lot, especially if you already have great downforce. Problem is, omitting the pod and hence the radiators and all other part involved into spaces normally used for the engine and fuel tank ending up pushing the cockpit further forwards and raising the height of the fuel tank by a lot. And that messes with the center of gravity of a car and will throw off drivers used to a normal center of gravity for the entirety of their careers. Yes porpoising was an issue, but one exaggerated by the true issues. That plus all the other smaller issues they dealt with, it’s a miracle they didn’t do worse than they did.

  • @MGJDMNJ
    @MGJDMNJ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m just getting into f1 man and I love your content. I’m 40 and have recently been getting back into it and these are great. Keep it up

  • @contiplays
    @contiplays ปีที่แล้ว

    no, the cars do NOT look better. the most beautiful car was the 2018 Merc

  • @Cornhole1
    @Cornhole1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    holy fuck dude this channel underrated asf

  • @filippogusso4589
    @filippogusso4589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that if the rule td 39 wasnt added ferrari would have been able to fight until the end with rb and mercs against alpine and mclaren with an equal fight. That rule truly gave advantage to merc and rb

  • @Dylann1213
    @Dylann1213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your videos kick ass. please keep it up. thanks algorithm!

  • @nicholascanjuga6000
    @nicholascanjuga6000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quality is something lacking in youtubers, you sir are above that, I am far more familiar with other forms of motorsport and there history but have always been interested in learning more about f1, great work!

    • @jonnyf1
      @jonnyf1  ปีที่แล้ว

      That means so much. Appreciate you🔥

  • @harrymoise4136
    @harrymoise4136 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cars do not look better… they look really goofy with the front wings so high 😂😂😂

  • @samtunks8833
    @samtunks8833 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your videos so far. Please keep going

    • @jonnyf1
      @jonnyf1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you

  • @smolsnekmax
    @smolsnekmax ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video! just one thing at 2:25 you said that mercedes had it down in 2011 with their hybrid engine, but the hybrids didn't come in until 2014.

    • @leandrociarrapico9256
      @leandrociarrapico9256 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think he meant that Mercedes was already developing the 2014 power unit in 2011.

  • @hectorherbert6585
    @hectorherbert6585 ปีที่แล้ว

    The car showed at 6.01 is the podded version of the W13..you could say there was a W13 "A" and a W13 'B'...the first one running the first 3 days of tests in Spain then the 'B' (podless) in Bahreïn ,for the remaining 3 days..why they chose the second car is still a 'mystère' to me..!!..both pilots preferring the first car & clocking faster lap times (Hamilton)...

  • @henriquecosta3031
    @henriquecosta3031 ปีที่แล้ว

    end of turbo hybrid era????? please dont do those mistakes mate, turbo hybrid era still on... Ground effect era... Probably :P

  • @Fishmanistan
    @Fishmanistan ปีที่แล้ว

    The algorithm is picking up your channel, nice to have a Formula 1 personality from NA. But slow down just a hair with the speech pace, I often have these videos playing in the background while I play games and this one was noticably harder to follow

  • @AJG63
    @AJG63 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your channel and love your videos! Just subbed!

  • @JoyceFarrell-g7l
    @JoyceFarrell-g7l ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was amazing, love the work put into it, great job. Nice series dude, keep it up!!.

  • @louisbeerreviews8964
    @louisbeerreviews8964 ปีที่แล้ว

    This car was the worst

  • @Paul_C
    @Paul_C ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, no side pods. Can't wait for new rules, prediction: Red Bull will design a car without side pods.

  • @kanseidreams
    @kanseidreams ปีที่แล้ว

    not sure if these cars were problematic but a the lotus cars Kimi drove or the Renault after the 2 championships

  • @amishD69
    @amishD69 ปีที่แล้ว

    congratulations on 100 subscribers, keep up that content coming

  • @konradjanuchta2251
    @konradjanuchta2251 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good material! Deep, yet very interesting dive into the W13. Are you planning on doing some videos about cars from the 90s? Cheers and keep’em comin 😄

  • @Seamk63
    @Seamk63 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was amazing, love the work put into it, great job

  • @Math_0027
    @Math_0027 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a video on the 2007 Renault R27

  • @JohnnyChimpo69
    @JohnnyChimpo69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me watching this not knowing if the w14 is even an improvement 😑

    • @hectornecromancer5308
      @hectornecromancer5308 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's pretty much the same honestly. The only differences that it's Hamilton who adapted well in W14 instead of George last year in W13

    • @JohnnyChimpo69
      @JohnnyChimpo69 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hectornecromancer5308 I think the w13 was faster but a little more problematic. But it’s possible the w14 is better but the competition is better so it’s hard to tell
      Either way I think the sport is rigged and Mercedes plays along while Red Bull get their domination period. No way in hell Mercedes really brings these shit cars after Abu Dhabi 2021. The mclaren and Aston are too close. Heck. The Williams looks really good

  • @sxntx7052
    @sxntx7052 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this videos! Keep them

  • @hamdanali2036
    @hamdanali2036 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:30 thats an STR

  • @thatoneguy7191
    @thatoneguy7191 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bwahaha 6:00

  • @ohmawgawdVEVO
    @ohmawgawdVEVO ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video dawg 🔥

  • @okurkovec1624
    @okurkovec1624 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this content! Keep it up mate

  • @thenewdislikebutton
    @thenewdislikebutton ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the videos

  • @ian.peter.lastimosa
    @ian.peter.lastimosa ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice series dude, keep it up!!

  • @pdrtv6827
    @pdrtv6827 ปีที่แล้ว

    I´m your 69th subscriber now. Nice

    • @jonnyf1
      @jonnyf1  ปีที่แล้ว

      😎x69

    • @botiboga2060
      @botiboga2060 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm the 100th sub. GG

  • @Tvl010
    @Tvl010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This car wasn’t that bad the crying of Mercedes made u feel like it was a Haas. Mercedes shown themself real sore losers last year, instead of head down and solve the issues it was constant crying. The only one in the team who can speak about bad cars is George, Lewis never had a tractor.

  • @jaspervanbruggen
    @jaspervanbruggen ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work man, keep it going!

    • @jonnyf1
      @jonnyf1  ปีที่แล้ว

      🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @takritchris8905
    @takritchris8905 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi

    • @jonnyf1
      @jonnyf1  ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s good🔥

  • @jdbb3gotskills
    @jdbb3gotskills 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I kinda wish they kept the silver for 2023. I understand why they brought back the black but the silver looks so slick.

  • @CLK.11
    @CLK.11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmmm ... u forgot to mension that little bit where Toto&Co got in touch with the FIA to change rules when that "dominance" where in risk.
    i.e. Ferrari getting competite doing the "oil brun" that mercedes where doing .... banned
    Teams copying some aero aspects ... rules changes
    Team copying the axel/steering angle "thingy" ... letting mercedes keep it, and then banned
    Mercedes cant solve the problems with the venturi tunels? ... rules changed ....
    I dont know, something just dont seems right ....cant put my finger on it ...

  • @F1Guy-Guy
    @F1Guy-Guy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The real problem is that Hamilton as his name to everone often spells trouble for F1 and his rivals are fed up also for him just being too fast too good and too strong

  • @edvardhammersgard304
    @edvardhammersgard304 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a fact. Just your opinion. The cars now look horrible compared to anything before.

  • @aleksandarpantic8450
    @aleksandarpantic8450 ปีที่แล้ว

    the new cars look trash

  • @TracerX
    @TracerX ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why I will always hate them and the V6's. They completely ruined the sport.