The devs that actually work on balancing do not play the game. The fact they keep nerfing genji the moment he climbs up same with mercy etc is just mindboggling.
I don't think it's even possible anymore for OW to make a comeback. Blizzard probably isn't expecting OW to beat Rivals, but there is literally nothing they could do to make most OW players who main Rivals now come back. Maybe temporarily, but it won't last long. I don't want to keep beating a dead horse, but Rivals really is just a MUCH better game in every aspect.
@VitorCT failing to meet expectations means they're good at their job? Lying to your fans to generate fake hype is doing a good job? My brother in Christ
probably because their higherups think that marketing is more important than actual game content. Gets people back for a couple weeks to make their numbers go up.
They should update Junkenstein's revenge and do OW zombies instead, endless waves of undead heroes/omnics, different maps and progressively gets harder and you can build defenses/barricades etc
I’m not saying they are joking about it I’m saying it might be something related to pve and they didn’t mean to have that link in even tho it most likely is a coincidence
@@gavinator1775 dude have you forgot the skill trees they hyped up and the story missions that were also canceled. More likely what will happen is they wont make pve and they might release the old archive missions and probably modernize them
@@pippo17173we shouldn’t be rooting for the worst because depriving rivals of competition would kill it with time, just like overwatch is at the brink of death right now because it had no competition. If you care about rivals, you have to hope this goes well. There’s no other way to set rivals up for a good future. Healthy competition is just not optional in these spaces.
@Chinesetakeout382 i don't want overwatch to die but man, their current stances tell me it's not gonna be 2 years before it heads to maintenance mode permanently and then it's shut down.
@@Chinesetakeout382i want Overwatch to live long and healthy so that deranged Mercy mains and other problem players can remain in Overwatch as a quarantine game.
Headcannon: 6v6 role queue becomes the primary mode with pickable passives that are custom for each hero, not per role. All existing role passives in the game are removed minus the healing passive . Player hero bans are announced for competitive starting a few weeks into season 15. 5v5 moved to arcade. The livestream also includes a new Cinematic. Honestly could be anything. But all of those tests they did this past year better be for something.
@@simple7708 5v5 has been such a stain on the game. Sure, there's people that like it, but the format just doesn't work for a game with so many heroes still designed for 6v6.
Those people you’re complaining about literally don’t even work at blizzard anymore. Why can people like you never move on? This is why the entire sentiment around overwatch is that it suck’s
@@brycenb2994 probably because trust is easy to destroy, and hard to gain. Will you blindly trust company who lied for years just because they changed some people? P.S. not hating on overwatch, just blizzard
@ if the people who made those promises don’t even work there anymore and the new team has consistently kept their promises then YES obviously. You’re crying over spilled milk. Also how unrealistic is it to think every single promise can always be kept?? If they give me a good reason for why they aren’t doing something whether I agree or not what is there to complain about ???
They announce a teaser date: "They're starving!" They don't announce anything: "OW isn't doing anything. We haven't heard any news. RIP." Lets be real, you're gonna bitch either way. 😊
@ my guy, singular heroes can be legitimately ground breaking to competitive design and balance, if you don’t understand that, you don’t understand the game on a complex enough level to form an opinion on it. Brigitte was ground breaking and game breaking on her own, those changes would 100% be groundbreaking.
Overwatch devs needed 6 years and a massive competitor to feel compelled to make actual changes to their game that’s not solely monetization. They should not be given the time of day. They had their chance and used it to milk their loyal community for years.
Then why you even here bro?? Almost EVERY company that has been at the top of anything gets complacent. The only reason we as a nation (USA) went to the FREAKING MOON was to prove we were superior to another nation. Competition breeds progress. And that’s not just video games. That’s EVERYTHING. If you wanna move on move on but why bring that negatively here? Change is change no matter how long. To say “why didn’t you do it sooner” is to basically say “why didn’t you make a Time Machine”. Better late than never at all.
@@brycenb2994 “Why are you criticizing developers who prioritized greed and taking advantage of their player-base over addressing their actual issues??” - you. I’ve played OW consistently since their release and have watched as their morals as developers have gradually declined. It’s very telling when people like you try to talk down on those who call them out for it. Nice try lil bro 👍
@ you just said and entire paragraph of actual nothing. Explain to me precisely how you’ve watched their morals “decline” after they’ve made progress for the better part of a year
@@brycenb2994 You talk like the kind of people that votes for a politician that defended some policy and then started attacking it after a new president from the opposition was elected. People have the right to be mad at blizzard after she ruined the game and dont forgive it just because now its unbearable to dont improve
@brycenb2994 Well, let me use fewer words to see if you understand: People dont owe blizzard forgiveness just because MAYBE the game will be better after the new announcements. Now, talking about the DECLINE, the game doesnt few fun to play,no matter what they have done this year wich was a big bag of nothing, it has become less and less fun since 2023, they failed to make 5v5 not be a torture to tanks, the new game modes feel frustating to play, orisa and mauga are atrocities in gameplay design, the nerfs and buffs of the characters many times either makes the charcters useless or a monster and, anyways , if you watch flats you probably already see how his experience with current OW is very bad
We don't know for sure yet. Maybe it is lol. But this is Blizzard. Chances are it's hero bans, the roadmap for 2025, and maybe a tease of 6v6 coming back by the end of the year
@@Hietakissahow well would a genji play when most supports in the game can escape and be immortal? Genji also isnt great as a flank, his kit is for cleanup.
this would unironically be a banger april fools where they turn every character into kiriko but they keep their old moves so its just really fucking scuffed
The only way I would get hyped for PvE is if they had a whole new team for it. As in, have people who actually have experience making good bots, especially allies. I still play OW but their bots in game are weak sauce
the thing is that lets just hypothetically say Overwatch does beat out Marvel Rivals. Whats gonna happen after? Knowing Blizzard if they were to go serious and make a comeback they will just go back to how they were before Rivals appeared.
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xhdumb mindset to have. What’s absolutely best for the hero shooter industry is constant competition. If marvel rivals takes over ow and it dies then who’s to say that in a year and a half to two years they just send rivals to the abyss. Also just because you don’t play it doesn’t mean it’s dead, is it anything even close to its prime? Absolutely not but it still has a fairly active an dedicated player base
@@shotyew1435constant competition isn’t healthy for those without a fighting spirit. If you fail to hold yourself up without competition you deserve to fail when said competition arrives. Suddenly realising “we have to do better because there’s competition now” doesn’t give a free pass to forgiveness nor does it warrant support. Overwatch has yet to step up to any potential competitor and at the first sign of something even coming close has left them deers in headlights, the game has been popular for one month every year for the past 5 years while other games are content with lower but stable number maybe it’s best for overwatch to pick a lane and stay content.
@ sure you can say that, I would argue though that overwatch hasn’t actually had any competitors to fight against. The two main ones I can think of are paladins and concord and ow didn’t even need to lift a finger for those two to die. Overwatch doesn’t have a fighting spirit because it’s never needed to develop one. Which is why I hope that real competition will allow them to actually start caring about the game again
Honestly everyone whos dogging on overwatch saying it’s dead, it’s not coming back, rivals killed it, etc etc has not listened to flats whatsoever. The absolutely best thing for both games is for both to coexist and bring competition. If marvel rivals fully kills overwatch, then who’s to say that in a year and a half to two years they stop caring about rivals and essentially turn into blizzard? They too also need something to keep them from getting lazy
I Hope people start to understand that, having a competition helps a game, If a game has nothing to compare to It, It doesnt bring a strive to achieve a better content than the other and vice versa. If ow had a competitior since the beginning or in the middle of It, It probably would be in a better state.
knowing Human Biology, the coexist thing won't going to happen since humans are petty beings exhibit A: Overwatch community hate toward it's own game after rival release
All these idiots cant see that Rivals will introduce its own problems down the line, as of now its just too fresh to properly see its flaws. But we will see how they deal with it. Blizzard hasnt been good in dealing with their problems, lets see if Rivals Devs are any better at it...
Nothing happened in the video. Marvel rivals and overwatch are not in competition with each other, because marval rivals is in its own league. Overwatch is a terrible marvel rivals clone that tries to be original yet fails.
TF2 did this a couple of years ago. They got the community hyped saying a big summer update was coming. Something people have waited 8 years for. But they changed the phrasing on their blog later saying "community sized" implying it was just maps and hats made by the community
The blog post originally said "update-sized update", some idiots online started overhyping it as a major update, valve updated it to "holiday-sized update" a few days later.
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_SaladTF2 is still kept alive by its loyal community with memes and references, the overwhelming majority of people just want Overwatch to finally fade away after being lied and strung along.
I swear to God I had a dream where everyone had a new ult chosen like how paladins do for talents. What I remember Sigma was the first and his second ult was the same expect he created mini astroids and meteorites being launched at enemies in a small circle area
I have a small feeling they will try to use them left over assets they never used with the alternate abilities that you can pick when you choose the character. That would probably be the only thing that would make me interested in return personally 🤔
@lilwintery6434 gotta see the gameplay if it looks interesting enough I'd consider but it has to be actually game changing so let's see what they deliver
Lowkey I would love a format where 7v7 would be 2-2-2 with one 1 special flex role you could queue up for separately. Depending on what your team needs throughout the game the flex player could switch accordingly.
If it's not PVE then I don't really care to be honest. Push and Clash aren't that good despite them trying to hype it up. If they apologized for misleading the community for years and then actually tried to acomplish what they promised, people would have a new reason to play the game other than skins and weapon charms. It also provides something unique that their biggest competitor, marvel rivals, currently doesn't have.
they will anounce 6v6 being a permanent gamemode and will co exist with 5v5 separating the playerbase in 4 main gamemodes (counting respective ranked system) increasing and doubling queue times, plus some muscle memory disruptive mechanics such as hero talents or mixing in the halloween event crap.
I think it’s going to be like RPG/MOBA perks to tailor your hero choice to the situation. And maybe some global changes/options for anti heal and stuff. Give people options for every situation that pops up. More variety and at least muddy the waters and keep people experimenting more every single game. Keeps them in.
Overfeels like the GF or BF that treated you like pooh for years and you believed that you were in a good relationship until a new girl/boy came around and showed you what a real relationship should be like.....Now the old GF/BF is doing everything they can to get you back.
As someone who has only played 3 hours of ow2 that's a funny analogy, and yes the game was absolutely shit I had the worst time ever and was so confused, MR finally showed me why people love hero shooters. The toxic relationship is similar to how riot has been treating me and other player for years and that was not a fun experience, the big companies think they can all walk over us, and force us to like it, untill something new comes and forces them to change
I'm 99% sure they will add pickable abilities / skill trees to the game. It's what they had been developing for the original PvE vision of OW2. Free to Play 5v5... Season 9 health buffs & passives... Junkestein's Lab... The writing on the wall might have been there from the start... We're witnesses of the "crawl, walk, run" of Paladinswatch.
They’re gonna announce Overwatch 3, switch to 4v4, promise a massive gameplay mode that everyone is invested in that isn’t there on release, and double the prices on all the skins in the shop.
Reminders to not go back to Overwatch: *They locked heroes behind paywalls *Role Queue *Sombra *Widowmaker *The failure to deliver PvE content *The failure to continue Overwatchs story in a meaningful way *Recolored skins
I’m praying. PRAYING they bring back this game. It was one of the biggest games ever and I’d love to see it return to that. Also, not paid for cosmetic options would be nice to see return
Your prayers are useless. Also this game is garbage they need to shutdown the servers and shutdown as a company. Chinese games have always been better than american slop, and it shows.
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xhYeah Chinese games are always better. Like… uh…. Genshin Impact? Or… erm… Black Myth Wukong? I guess that one was ok, but it lost to Astro Bot and almost lost to a DLC for a game in the same genre lmao. No Chinese game company has ever won GOTY. You actually find Valorant and League of Legends fun? The monetization in Valorant and the way Riot treats its player base is so much worse than OW. I quit Valorant and I didn’t even need a competitor in the same genre to come out lmao. But don’t worry the replay system is coming out in early 2025 (supposedly). It only took 5 years
Ovewatch screwed over us fans way too much to just return as if nothing happened. They could announce 10 new characters coming this week and I'll still be more excited for the thing dropping in rivals.
bro so true.. they ruined my favorite role (blizzard) I loved playing tank.. at least when I press my buttons on tank in rivals SOMETHING happens and it doesn't take 20 years even with the triple support meta.. also evangelion penni skin >>> then like every ow skin minus maestro sigma
I have no expectations to Overwatch 2 so far. I'm pretty sure the changes they are hinting at are in fact not groundbreaking. but if they reboot PVE back to what was promised (and possibly give Ramattra a Mythic Skin), I might play Overwatch 2 again.
It’s going to be ruby or diamond gun for comp rewards, a new map(won’t release until July), 2 heroes(won’t release the first one until October), and a hazard buff
I personally hope that overwatch takes a page out of MR books in the future on how comp progress is gained or lost. Say what you want about the game but it's competitive system feels so fun and fair. If I'm actually performing my job really well and someone's just having a bad game, I'm the one having a bad game or we have a leaver, I always feel like I get a pretty fair compensation at the end. And with OW I just don't feel like that. It feels like you're punished and rewarded solely on game outcome and that just feels antiquated
This is actually a problem they have, the easiest way to rank up in bloodstrike (a netease game) is to have a 2nd account join your party then quit mid match. They give you +15 rating per teammate quitting and ignore any minus rating. With +45 every 3 mins instead of sweating for 16 mins to get 70-100 it's just way easier.
groundbreaking changes: "first time in video game history: we're reinventing the way you play this game, by playing it with 6 people on each team and 2 on each role!, it's never been done before. Also, we're adding these boxes with prizes inside!"
I honestly have no idea what they could possibly even add or change about the game to bring players badk from Rivals . There’s been too much bad blood from blizzard
One of 2 things are likely going to happen: - Bringing back PVE and promises that were broken - Hero team ups Like I doubt this, but honestly if it really took Marvel Rivals to bring back the promises they destroyed, that’ll be surprising
I'm calling it: We're getting new abilties for legacy and existing characters. Rivals has more abilities per character (and not just passive boring stuff). That's the one thing they can do to greatly improve what's already there and generate some massive hype. More abilities gives the players greater agency over their experience and cranks the fun factor way up. Will it wreck the balance and cause huge problems? Yup, but adding hero bans can keep things in check long enough to tweak where needed. Balance isn't the problem with OW. The problem is how much fun it is to play Rivals right now. It will also make the game feel very fresh. This is the way.
expectations are low, they've had so many years to turn it around. i don't see them magically pulling a rabbit out the hat, and historically very few games do manage that
For "groundbreaking" all I can think of is a way to change the map structure in a meaningful way between team fights. Or maybe the weather mechanic will actually be relevant this time?
I feel like it's just some change going back to something from Overwatch 1, specifically the Sr system. It can't be a coincidence that the background they use for the blog post is literally the background screen for your Sr changes after a match from Overwatch 1 right?
@@dragonofsteel3021 i disagree im tired of pvp i wanted pve more than anything cause all they can change is buffs in pve and Nothing crazy new unlike pve
It would be so funny if they say it’s like something we’ve never seen before and it’s just 6v6
I can vividly see that happening
That would be hilarious haha
taking a page RIGHT out of ubislop's book
We've never seen it before!!!!! in overwatch 2 LOL
@@Moddum123 I was going to say that but I did not want my comment being to long haha
Betting 1000 dollars these changes are not in fact groundbreaking
It's been 5 years and everyone by now should expect it.
They for sure will be further reinforcing the ground with this one.
The devs that actually work on balancing do not play the game. The fact they keep nerfing genji the moment he climbs up same with mercy etc is just mindboggling.
My expectations are non-existent personally.
They can’t be groundbreaking because that’d be a venture reference
It’s a temporary game mode and a new skin calling it now
Competitive Lucioball
and a kiriko skin
@@lunablader7913 Competitive Mystery Heroes on Clash.
Dress to impress
@@canineatnight6026 recolor*
I have no real expectations at this point. They need to cook hard to have even a chance of getting some of the people back.
Not just cook something, but they need to present it in what is borderline master class level, otherwise, there’s nothing left.
Someone really close to me works on the team and they told me something BIG is coming. I'm trying to make them say what it is but they don't!!!
@@stephanyjablonofsky9749 new comp skins that you can buy, or comp points that you can buy, literally nothing big
I don't think it's even possible anymore for OW to make a comeback. Blizzard probably isn't expecting OW to beat Rivals, but there is literally nothing they could do to make most OW players who main Rivals now come back. Maybe temporarily, but it won't last long. I don't want to keep beating a dead horse, but Rivals really is just a MUCH better game in every aspect.
They need a no man's sky redemption arc at this point 😂
They're adding... Ruby gun skins for Comp!!!
*"YEEEEAAAAAHHHH!!!!"* (EDIT: The Who)
The Who. The band you are thinking of is The Who
Roger Daltrey is very upset with you
average ow player music knowledge
@@RaccoonBrigade he's my favorite Beatle
I snorted at this at my work desk ❤
I would giggle so hard if they reveal that it is 7v7.
I would absolutely love to see them give it a go.
How would that make the game better just curious? I know it’ll be something new
@@prophetpaul2391it would fix the queue times problem, and the solo tank problem
Would it even move the needle? As someone that has invest A MASSIVE amount of time into the game, it wouldn't really get me to play again.
1-3-3 could go crazy
ow devs are always really good at hyping up things that end up being either nothing and leading to disappointment
Just like For Honor or Destiny 2!
That means they are good at their job. Props to them
I mean they hyped up classic and I actually really liked classic
@VitorCT failing to meet expectations means they're good at their job? Lying to your fans to generate fake hype is doing a good job? My brother in Christ
probably because their higherups think that marketing is more important than actual game content. Gets people back for a couple weeks to make their numbers go up.
Groundbreaking PVP changes: We're discontinuing the Junkenstein PvE events going forward.
Nooooooo
Not junkenstein
They should update Junkenstein's revenge and do OW zombies instead, endless waves of undead heroes/omnics, different maps and progressively gets harder and you can build defenses/barricades etc
Wait, Junkenstein is still the only halloween event? For like damn 10y?
It was announced that the PvE at the end was just a coincidence
Probably archive missions
Or that’s what they want you to think 👀
@shotyew1435 I think PvE is the one thing they won't joke about
I’m not saying they are joking about it I’m saying it might be something related to pve and they didn’t mean to have that link in even tho it most likely is a coincidence
@@gavinator1775 dude have you forgot the skill trees they hyped up and the story missions that were also canceled. More likely what will happen is they wont make pve and they might release the old archive missions and probably modernize them
Plot twist: it’s just another genji nerf and orisa micro buff
its not a plot twist if its what everyone expects
Dont forget the Mauga micro buff and changing Hanzos 1 shot, then changing it back again
I like how the free skin they’re giving away is a battle pass recolor.
You expect them to give away anything for free that has high quality 😂😂😂
@@uberhaxornovanongalaktiksk9798 well this lucio skin looks kinda cool, so its not so bad
When you think about it, it’s almost like they’re flying everybody out because it’ll ensure they can’t stream Rivals for a few days lol.
Then it will make them look worst by trying to hype up features that really don't do a thing.
@@pippo17173we shouldn’t be rooting for the worst because depriving rivals of competition would kill it with time, just like overwatch is at the brink of death right now because it had no competition.
If you care about rivals, you have to hope this goes well. There’s no other way to set rivals up for a good future. Healthy competition is just not optional in these spaces.
@Chinesetakeout382 i don't want overwatch to die but man, their current stances tell me it's not gonna be 2 years before it heads to maintenance mode permanently and then it's shut down.
@@Chinesetakeout382 ow deserves to fall off, it had it's chance and moment in the sun
@@Chinesetakeout382i want Overwatch to live long and healthy so that deranged Mercy mains and other problem players can remain in Overwatch as a quarantine game.
Headcannon:
6v6 role queue becomes the primary mode with pickable passives that are custom for each hero, not per role. All existing role passives in the game are removed minus the healing passive . Player hero bans are announced for competitive starting a few weeks into season 15. 5v5 moved to arcade. The livestream also includes a new Cinematic.
Honestly could be anything. But all of those tests they did this past year better be for something.
@@Fearless_Kat this would be pretty cool! It would be interesting to see how they balanced that but it would be a lot of fun
Personally would prefer 5v5 being outright removed, but I'd settle for it to be Arcade only
only way for Ow to get my attention would be doing hero passives, im not even playing rivals im just tired of Ow
@@simple7708 5v5 has been such a stain on the game. Sure, there's people that like it, but the format just doesn't work for a game with so many heroes still designed for 6v6.
that just sounds like paladins with extra steps
Their promises and announcements mean nothing tbh, as we saw over the years, they show nothing i have nothing to be excited about
Even if they show something exciting, it might just end up getting cancelled internally and they’ll wait 8 months to tell the playerbase.
Those people you’re complaining about literally don’t even work at blizzard anymore. Why can people like you never move on? This is why the entire sentiment around overwatch is that it suck’s
@@brycenb2994not everyone u
is bootlicker like you bub
@@brycenb2994 probably because trust is easy to destroy, and hard to gain. Will you blindly trust company who lied for years just because they changed some people? P.S. not hating on overwatch, just blizzard
@ if the people who made those promises don’t even work there anymore and the new team has consistently kept their promises then YES obviously. You’re crying over spilled milk.
Also how unrealistic is it to think every single promise can always be kept?? If they give me a good reason for why they aren’t doing something whether I agree or not what is there to complain about ???
Teaser for a teaser in 2 weeks, they are starving
They're bringing back 6v6 and that's all, lol.
They announce a teaser date: "They're starving!"
They don't announce anything: "OW isn't doing anything. We haven't heard any news. RIP."
Lets be real, you're gonna bitch either way. 😊
"Groundbreaking" and "unlike anything you've seen before" =
Official 6v6 return... and the biggest nothing burger ever
6 v 6 with hero bans would in fact be ground breaking as that’s what the community fought for before 5 v 5 came out.
@@-.Outlaw.- not really, ya'll use "groundbreaking" way too loosely.
@@-.Outlaw.- 2000 OW coins to unlock hero bans per season
@ my guy, singular heroes can be legitimately ground breaking to competitive design and balance, if you don’t understand that, you don’t understand the game on a complex enough level to form an opinion on it. Brigitte was ground breaking and game breaking on her own, those changes would 100% be groundbreaking.
would be too little too late if that was all
Overwatch devs needed 6 years and a massive competitor to feel compelled to make actual changes to their game that’s not solely monetization. They should not be given the time of day. They had their chance and used it to milk their loyal community for years.
Then why you even here bro?? Almost EVERY company that has been at the top of anything gets complacent. The only reason we as a nation (USA) went to the FREAKING MOON was to prove we were superior to another nation.
Competition breeds progress. And that’s not just video games. That’s EVERYTHING.
If you wanna move on move on but why bring that negatively here? Change is change no matter how long. To say “why didn’t you do it sooner” is to basically say “why didn’t you make a Time Machine”. Better late than never at all.
@@brycenb2994 “Why are you criticizing developers who prioritized greed and taking advantage of their player-base over addressing their actual issues??” - you. I’ve played OW consistently since their release and have watched as their morals as developers have gradually declined. It’s very telling when people like you try to talk down on those who call them out for it. Nice try lil bro 👍
@ you just said and entire paragraph of actual nothing. Explain to me precisely how you’ve watched their morals “decline” after they’ve made progress for the better part of a year
@@brycenb2994 You talk like the kind of people that votes for a politician that defended some policy and then started attacking it after a new president from the opposition was elected. People have the right to be mad at blizzard after she ruined the game and dont forgive it just because now its unbearable to dont improve
@brycenb2994 Well, let me use fewer words to see if you understand: People dont owe blizzard forgiveness just because MAYBE the game will be better after the new announcements.
Now, talking about the DECLINE, the game doesnt few fun to play,no matter what they have done this year wich was a big bag of nothing, it has become less and less fun since 2023, they failed to make 5v5 not be a torture to tanks, the new game modes feel frustating to play, orisa and mauga are atrocities in gameplay design, the nerfs and buffs of the characters many times either makes the charcters useless or a monster and, anyways , if you watch flats you probably already see how his experience with current OW is very bad
Its Archives events again
"Hey, so I know we said hero bans were impossible, but..."
Yes something new is coming But it’s NOT FANTASTICCCCCCCCCCCC
Say that agaun
@@creed8712 Again?
Armed and dangerous
HULLKKK SSMMMAASHHH
MAXIMUM PULSE
OW: "Unlike anything seen before!"
*adds even more reskins*
Groundbreaking is quite the stretch lmao
It's an interesting choice of words for sure
Groundbreaking....... maybe there is a new Venture skin comming?
We don't know for sure yet. Maybe it is lol. But this is Blizzard. Chances are it's hero bans, the roadmap for 2025, and maybe a tease of 6v6 coming back by the end of the year
@@mynameisaegisnah its defo more than that
And you're saying that based on what exactly? You literally don't know what the changes are yet.
cant wait to see genji getting nerfed again by their "groundbreaking" standarts
Genji hasn’t been nerfed for a pretty long time now tbh.
Considering he is performing pretty well now, his nerfs would be long overdue lmao
Genji hasn’t been nerfed in forever, and he’s not underperforming where he shouldn’t be.
@@moth5414yeah whatever blizzard shill.
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xhWdym shill? It's a fact that Genji is performing really well rn, I wouldn't be surprised if he did get nerfed
@@Hietakissahow well would a genji play when most supports in the game can escape and be immortal? Genji also isnt great as a flank, his kit is for cleanup.
Every skin turning into a kiriko skin calling it
this would unironically be a banger april fools where they turn every character into kiriko but they keep their old moves so its just really fucking scuffed
You mean Juno 😂
*It would be funny if these changes were, in fact, groundbreaking and shut everyone up*
It's awesome that they created a whole event to honour the buffing of orisa
Only thing they need to do is bring back lore,Pve, Cinematics,and all the fun character based story that made the game fun
Yeah thats the only thing they need to do, its not like overwatch has a thousand problems that marvel rivals doesnt.
PvE would’ve sucked anyway. Go play an actual single player game if you wanna shoot bots all day
The only way I would get hyped for PvE is if they had a whole new team for it. As in, have people who actually have experience making good bots, especially allies. I still play OW but their bots in game are weak sauce
@@brycenb2994Yes PvE would’ve sucked, which is why they shut down the 1st game to even begin creating the sequel for no reason huh?
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xh what are those problems? I seriously want to know. Havent played OW in ages.
the thing is that lets just hypothetically say Overwatch does beat out Marvel Rivals. Whats gonna happen after? Knowing Blizzard if they were to go serious and make a comeback they will just go back to how they were before Rivals appeared.
Overwatch is not beating marvel rivals no matter what they do. Ow is dead and it should remain that way.
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xhdumb mindset to have. What’s absolutely best for the hero shooter industry is constant competition. If marvel rivals takes over ow and it dies then who’s to say that in a year and a half to two years they just send rivals to the abyss. Also just because you don’t play it doesn’t mean it’s dead, is it anything even close to its prime? Absolutely not but it still has a fairly active an dedicated player base
@@shotyew1435constant competition isn’t healthy for those without a fighting spirit. If you fail to hold yourself up without competition you deserve to fail when said competition arrives.
Suddenly realising “we have to do better because there’s competition now” doesn’t give a free pass to forgiveness nor does it warrant support. Overwatch has yet to step up to any potential competitor and at the first sign of something even coming close has left them deers in headlights, the game has been popular for one month every year for the past 5 years while other games are content with lower but stable number maybe it’s best for overwatch to pick a lane and stay content.
@ sure you can say that, I would argue though that overwatch hasn’t actually had any competitors to fight against. The two main ones I can think of are paladins and concord and ow didn’t even need to lift a finger for those two to die. Overwatch doesn’t have a fighting spirit because it’s never needed to develop one. Which is why I hope that real competition will allow them to actually start caring about the game again
@@shotyew1435 concord played more like destiny pvp, i think paladins and rivals have been the only games with gameplay close to overwatch
We've heard this before...many times.
We've been let down by the reveal...many times.
Honestly everyone whos dogging on overwatch saying it’s dead, it’s not coming back, rivals killed it, etc etc has not listened to flats whatsoever. The absolutely best thing for both games is for both to coexist and bring competition. If marvel rivals fully kills overwatch, then who’s to say that in a year and a half to two years they stop caring about rivals and essentially turn into blizzard? They too also need something to keep them from getting lazy
I Hope people start to understand that, having a competition helps a game, If a game has nothing to compare to It, It doesnt bring a strive to achieve a better content than the other and vice versa. If ow had a competitior since the beginning or in the middle of It, It probably would be in a better state.
knowing Human Biology, the coexist thing won't going to happen since humans are petty beings
exhibit A: Overwatch community hate toward it's own game after rival release
All these idiots cant see that Rivals will introduce its own problems down the line, as of now its just too fresh to properly see its flaws. But we will see how they deal with it. Blizzard hasnt been good in dealing with their problems, lets see if Rivals Devs are any better at it...
Can't wait for OW3
Meanwhile marvel rivals doesnt need any sequels because it is already perfect.
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xhbad bait
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xh i mean overwatch was perfect for a while, until it wasnt. so the cycle could be repeated
This is what happens when you have competition
Nothing happened in the video. Marvel rivals and overwatch are not in competition with each other, because marval rivals is in its own league. Overwatch is a terrible marvel rivals clone that tries to be original yet fails.
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xh bro if you don’t like the game just say that
@@defaultdan7923 he's just baiting
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xh some super bait right there lmao
Cant wait to play rivals when this update hits
I'll be playing both games :P
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@@Summrrxhe’s right unfortunately
TF2 did this a couple of years ago. They got the community hyped saying a big summer update was coming. Something people have waited 8 years for. But they changed the phrasing on their blog later saying "community sized" implying it was just maps and hats made by the community
See? TF2 aren't no different compared to Overwatch, both community and the devs
The blog post originally said "update-sized update", some idiots online started overhyping it as a major update, valve updated it to "holiday-sized update" a few days later.
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_SaladTF2 is still kept alive by its loyal community with memes and references, the overwhelming majority of people just want Overwatch to finally fade away after being lied and strung along.
I swear to God I had a dream where everyone had a new ult chosen like how paladins do for talents. What I remember Sigma was the first and his second ult was the same expect he created mini astroids and meteorites being launched at enemies in a small circle area
I have a small feeling they will try to use them left over assets they never used with the alternate abilities that you can pick when you choose the character. That would probably be the only thing that would make me interested in return personally 🤔
They have been talking about adding talents or packable passives to pvp for almost a year now.
@lilwintery6434 gotta see the gameplay if it looks interesting enough I'd consider but it has to be actually game changing so let's see what they deliver
it would be so funny if they went 3rd person
Oh man…. This it is… this will take the cake tbh 😂😂😂😂 I will cry laughing 🤣
everyone would become widow mains
Something groundbreaking: Mercy, Juno and Kiriko gets their 50th skin😍😍😍
The “groundbreaking” changes are going to be a rank reset, sojourn buffs and a new Kiriko skin
Lowkey I would love a format where 7v7 would be 2-2-2 with one 1 special flex role you could queue up for separately.
Depending on what your team needs throughout the game the flex player could switch accordingly.
If it's not PVE then I don't really care to be honest. Push and Clash aren't that good despite them trying to hype it up.
If they apologized for misleading the community for years and then actually tried to acomplish what they promised, people would have a new reason to play the game other than skins and weapon charms.
It also provides something unique that their biggest competitor, marvel rivals, currently doesn't have.
they opened the fridge, saw what they can cook, but then burn the building down. Calling it.
That other PVE they had was guarded behind a paywall.
I think flats got threatened by blizzard thats why he makes OW videos again
I feel lik Flats would absolutely not care nor be threatened by anything blizzard had to say to him
"You have no power here"
There hasn’t been anything groundbreaking from this franchise since ow1 and nothing will change
We are soo not back
they will anounce 6v6 being a permanent gamemode and will co exist with 5v5 separating the playerbase in 4 main gamemodes (counting respective ranked system) increasing and doubling queue times, plus some muscle memory disruptive mechanics such as hero talents or mixing in the halloween event crap.
Hopfully you are right that the playerbase will be seperated and the loading times are longer. Its time for the final nail to be put in ow coffin.
Blizzard your line was “ground breaking PVE changes”
3!
*audience gasps*
3!
*people start crying and shitting themselves*
3 NEW SKINS FOR OVERWATCH 2!
*collective sighs and boos*
I think it’s going to be like RPG/MOBA perks to tailor your hero choice to the situation. And maybe some global changes/options for anti heal and stuff. Give people options for every situation that pops up. More variety and at least muddy the waters and keep people experimenting more every single game. Keeps them in.
Overfeels like the GF or BF that treated you like pooh for years and you believed that you were in a good relationship until a new girl/boy came around and showed you what a real relationship should be like.....Now the old GF/BF is doing everything they can to get you back.
As someone who has only played 3 hours of ow2 that's a funny analogy, and yes the game was absolutely shit I had the worst time ever and was so confused, MR finally showed me why people love hero shooters. The toxic relationship is similar to how riot has been treating me and other player for years and that was not a fun experience, the big companies think they can all walk over us, and force us to like it, untill something new comes and forces them to change
Imagine if they said we are adding a new rank to raise the skill celing and not change anything
I'm 99% sure they will add pickable abilities / skill trees to the game. It's what they had been developing for the original PvE vision of OW2.
Free to Play 5v5... Season 9 health buffs & passives... Junkestein's Lab... The writing on the wall might have been there from the start...
We're witnesses of the "crawl, walk, run" of Paladinswatch.
They didn't need to do all that just for a kiriko skin 😂
I have no doubt it will be good content. However, it’s going to be sprinkled over the year, thus killing the hype
Can’t wait for the ground breaking additions of a new kiriko skin and a mauga microbuff
I swear to god if this “Ground breaking changes” is just announcing 6v6 I’m gonna riot
Its been 5 years i dont expect anything at this point
*I'VE PLAYED THESE GAMES BEFORE!!!*
Can’t wait to see what else they can promise and then either break or half ass.
I am interested, but I know I can't place my hopes on these new "groundbreaking changes for PvP"
They’re gonna announce Overwatch 3, switch to 4v4, promise a massive gameplay mode that everyone is invested in that isn’t there on release, and double the prices on all the skins in the shop.
20v20 like in world of Warcraft 💀
Hopfully it is 20v20 it will put the final nail in the coffin for ow.
I'm excited for what's to come, however, I'm going to keep my expectations tempered.
Reverting the dps passive & increased HP pools & projectile sizes would be a GREAT START
But that wouldn't be groundbreaking. I agree they need to do that but reverting a bad change is not going to bring people back.
we are on the "we are back" part of the flowchart
Reminders to not go back to Overwatch:
*They locked heroes behind paywalls
*Role Queue
*Sombra
*Widowmaker
*The failure to deliver PvE content
*The failure to continue Overwatchs story in a meaningful way
*Recolored skins
*They're all free as soon as you start playing
*Which is optional
*Fair
*Fair
*PvP is still here
*There wasn't a story ingame anyway
*And others
Remember also:
Canceling PVE and wasting a ton of money
Balance team microbuffing the toxic heros and then nerfing the fun ones
Not to mention the overwatch is american slop.
Role Queue fixed the game idc idc
Minimum 1 per role 6v6 going on rn isn’t bad either
I’m praying. PRAYING they bring back this game. It was one of the biggest games ever and I’d love to see it return to that.
Also, not paid for cosmetic options would be nice to see return
Your prayers are useless. Also this game is garbage they need to shutdown the servers and shutdown as a company. Chinese games have always been better than american slop, and it shows.
@ What a horrible and pessimistic viewpoint. Who hurt you? Do you need a hug?
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xhYeah Chinese games are always better. Like… uh…. Genshin Impact?
Or… erm… Black Myth Wukong? I guess that one was ok, but it lost to Astro Bot and almost lost to a DLC for a game in the same genre lmao.
No Chinese game company has ever won GOTY.
You actually find Valorant and League of Legends fun? The monetization in Valorant and the way Riot treats its player base is so much worse than OW. I quit Valorant and I didn’t even need a competitor in the same genre to come out lmao. But don’t worry the replay system is coming out in early 2025 (supposedly). It only took 5 years
If they dont make revenue with cosmetics, how are they making revenue at all?
@ not saying there shouldn’t be paid for cosmetics. Just that there should be alternative means to achieve getting the skins.
Ovewatch screwed over us fans way too much to just return as if nothing happened.
They could announce 10 new characters coming this week and I'll still be more excited for the thing dropping in rivals.
bro so true.. they ruined my favorite role (blizzard) I loved playing tank.. at least when I press my buttons on tank in rivals SOMETHING happens and it doesn't take 20 years even with the triple support meta.. also evangelion penni skin >>> then like every ow skin minus maestro sigma
The devs are in panic mode lol
Doesn't matter what they'll do they'll never get there players back.
I hope you're right.
« This is your last chance » aaah moment
I have no expectations to Overwatch 2 so far.
I'm pretty sure the changes they are hinting at are in fact not groundbreaking.
but if they reboot PVE back to what was promised (and possibly give Ramattra a Mythic Skin), I might play Overwatch 2 again.
It’s going to be ruby or diamond gun for comp rewards, a new map(won’t release until July), 2 heroes(won’t release the first one until October), and a hazard buff
I personally hope that overwatch takes a page out of MR books in the future on how comp progress is gained or lost. Say what you want about the game but it's competitive system feels so fun and fair. If I'm actually performing my job really well and someone's just having a bad game, I'm the one having a bad game or we have a leaver, I always feel like I get a pretty fair compensation at the end. And with OW I just don't feel like that. It feels like you're punished and rewarded solely on game outcome and that just feels antiquated
The competitive mode is garbage. Not only are there too few tiers, I can't play with half my friends because of rank differences.
This is actually a problem they have, the easiest way to rank up in bloodstrike (a netease game) is to have a 2nd account join your party then quit mid match.
They give you +15 rating per teammate quitting and ignore any minus rating. With +45 every 3 mins instead of sweating for 16 mins to get 70-100 it's just way easier.
groundbreaking changes: "first time in video game history: we're reinventing the way you play this game, by playing it with 6 people on each team and 2 on each role!, it's never been done before. Also, we're adding these boxes with prizes inside!"
I honestly have no idea what they could possibly even add or change about the game to bring players badk from Rivals . There’s been too much bad blood from blizzard
"Groundbreaking change" I'm betting the bullet holes and crater effects are deeper.
Is it gonna be pvp talents? 🤔
One of 2 things are likely going to happen:
- Bringing back PVE and promises that were broken
- Hero team ups
Like I doubt this, but honestly if it really took Marvel Rivals to bring back the promises they destroyed, that’ll be surprising
I'm calling it: We're getting new abilties for legacy and existing characters. Rivals has more abilities per character (and not just passive boring stuff). That's the one thing they can do to greatly improve what's already there and generate some massive hype. More abilities gives the players greater agency over their experience and cranks the fun factor way up. Will it wreck the balance and cause huge problems? Yup, but adding hero bans can keep things in check long enough to tweak where needed. Balance isn't the problem with OW. The problem is how much fun it is to play Rivals right now. It will also make the game feel very fresh. This is the way.
They have to cook HARD if they want us back
more like to even have a chance of us considering going back
Who is us. Im not going back to overwatch now matter how good many updates and content.
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xh who are you?
expectations are low, they've had so many years to turn it around. i don't see them magically pulling a rabbit out the hat, and historically very few games do manage that
0:25 What future? Lol
For "groundbreaking" all I can think of is a way to change the map structure in a meaningful way between team fights. Or maybe the weather mechanic will actually be relevant this time?
OW2 your time has come, we gave you 8 years to get your shit together. It's just to little to late BLIZZARD
8 years? Why the hell are you counting the first few successful years? lol
@@bui3415 I thought I was going crazy like 8 years? Lmao
its not even close to too late
I feel like it's just some change going back to something from Overwatch 1, specifically the Sr system. It can't be a coincidence that the background they use for the blog post is literally the background screen for your Sr changes after a match from Overwatch 1 right?
its pick and ban phase
Definetely not.
I just find it funny that they specify pvp changes, like they change anything else
I TOLD YA'LL!!! The moment Microsoft acquired Blizzard I said give it 1-2 years before we get something big
Youre probably only getting hero bans lmao
And by something big, you mean skin recolors.
@ do you just didn't see the video, huh?
It already went down without a fight, dude just look at the numbers.
I hope its just not a pve annocment after scraping the orginal pve
The announcement said it's about PVP changes so probably not. I think the only PVE they'll do are mini season event games
So you don't want pve in any way to come back? That's kinda lame tbh
@jordancasillan5965 I rather them make the game good again like og ow then pve
@@dragonofsteel3021 i disagree im tired of pvp i wanted pve more than anything cause all they can change is buffs in pve and Nothing crazy new unlike pve
Venture 2nd skin
Thank you, Marvel Rivals.
I bet it's their take on Deadlock so they can have an 'Omnic War' mode
Deadlock is original unlock overwaste. 😂
Overwatch has a RIVAL!!! Their MARVEL RIVAL!!!
I may not be playing Overwatch right now but I’m always happy for glorious competition
Oh please overwatch cant compete with marvel rivals.
@@TheGreatOne-gw7xh Comp is good for any game even marvel rivials needs it
Overwatch 3 in blizzards true final final final final truly final last chance chance lol
the best change they got is having their lunch being eaten by marvel rivals.
Whoever did that blogpost link on Twitter has gotta be mocking the ow community. Why do they keep beating the dead horse? I don't mean orisa btw.