Eliphas the Inheritor's war gear looks so much better than Metal Bawkes. They didn't even change the description of the Daemon Prince in Soulstorm. It's not Eliphas nor does it have the Alpha Legion colors. It still has Word Bearers color.
Nildzre this happens when you give the job to another studio, tell them you want the same or more content than the last expansion, then give them less time to do it in than your last expansion got
2:18 Ascension: *Eliphas the Inheritor* permantly ascends to become a mighty Daemon Prince. WHAT? I didn't know Eliphas was brought back way before Chaos Rising.
Only thing Carron beats Eliphas on? Daemon Prince. Eliphas as a Daemon Prince is a DOWNGRADE, losing all of his weapons and bonuses. Carron meanwhile, KEEPS EVERY SINGLE ONE! It doesn't tell you that which means you find that out yourself....yeah, Carron is actually VERY FUCKING DANGEROUS if allowed to have his way.
carron actually has much better range damage he basically gets the posessed marine ranged attack on top of the range weapon does big aoe damage and morale loss
@@boxtank5288 How the f* is a downgrade dude? You DON'T need his weapons if you have higher damage as a Daemon Prince which you use weapons for! Who the heck cares about bonus if you are a devastating living thing?! Plus you just can kept Eliphas the Inheritor and just don't turn into the Daemon Prince. And do when he's nearly dead. Dude, are you f* kidding me? HE LOSES HALF THE MELEE DAMAGE ELIPHAS HAS and you're not supposed to support your units when you become the Daemon Prince. You just hop in and DESTROY EVERYTHING ON SIGHT. What every single one are you talking about? YOU CAN'T KEEP YOUR WEAPONRY ONCE YOU'VE TURN INTO THE DAEMON PRINCE! What do you mean that if allowed to have his way? lel.
The ironic part is that the Daemon Prince upgrade is actually BAD for Eliphas since it's the balanced multiplayer Daemon Prince and doesn't benefit from any of the perks his other wargear gives him.
Yea when I first got the daemon prince unlock, I was confused why Eliphas wasn't detecting infiltrated units so I had to always rely on my sorcerer. And worst when I'm defending an area with just the garrison
It's funny because under the Daemon Prince transformation in the Soulstorm campaign its labeled as "Eliphas" and not Firraveus and then the model is exactly the same.
Eliphas has more health, better melee damage, but slightly less ranged damage. Firraveus has less health and melee damage, but slightly better ranged damage.
@@boxtank5288 Carron can melt a sh*t with having Possessed ranged damage on himself only. You don't need your gear bonuses when you become a Daemon Prince. Also Firraveus LOSES HALF THE MELEE DAMAGE ELIPHAS HAS which means that until Firraveus being useful Eliphas will go in and kill.
Daemon Prince aside I much prefer Eliphas to Carron in aesthetic, character and ability. I mean seriously we got the smooth poisonous voice of Eliphas with the most perfect of witty barns and banter. Then we have the worst Khornate Chaos lord, METAL BAWKSES Carron.
Whose gear is better is irrelevant. One is a badass mastermind, the other is a foolish, screaming imbecile who runs away from battle while crying about flowers, and who can die in single combat to a Tau Commander.
I actually prefer Eliphas without a helmet. Here at least. As for Carron, he can hide his ugly mug behind that helm. Eliphas is a lot more handsomer then Carron.
@@thespecialist1264 Their faces are a bit different if you watch closely. So there is a "small" difference, but I agree with Hellman, Eliphas is a lot more handsome than Carron.
1:01 this is how i imagine my own chaos lord Azhik the Desecrator. Lord of Skin crawlers. Skin Crawlers is Warband that was separate from Iron Warriors. Their tradition is that every enemy they kill, They'll rip their skin off (unless its Necron or Machine) and wear it as a coat for their armor. Most of the warband are deserters from Loyal chapters. For example Azhik was Tallest Primaris Ultramarine that years since Cadia had fallen known. His treason was due to Disappointment of Cato Sicarius (For his Arrogance). Azhik's death death happen when he attacked Dark Angels in their sanctuary "The Rock". He underestimated Azrael, and thus Azrael Sliced him in Half
So what I gather reading about the two is that Eliphas has better stats but Carron's flamer breaks moral so easily that if you pit the two against each other with all their gear (sans the daemon prince upgrade which I hear you shouldn't anyways since it removes bonuses from all their other gear) Carron will actually win. You could just think of that as him cheating.
Yeah, Carron could beat the shit out of Gorgutz AND Eliphas solo thanks to that morale melt...Daemon Prince on Carron actually makes him MORE flatout impossible to kill on his own (he doesn't lose his armor bonuses). This relies on you playing as him and negating his flaw of being a fucking dumbass.
in what world is a manreaper less powerful than a fucking chainaxe?!?!?! hell, accursed crozius being better than a manreaper is enough of a stretch lmfao, those two are easily on the same tier.
Eliphas the Inheritor's war gear looks so much better than Metal Bawkes. They didn't even change the description of the Daemon Prince in Soulstorm. It's not Eliphas nor does it have the Alpha Legion colors. It still has Word Bearers color.
This is what happens when you pass the job to create an expansion to an unrelated dev.
Nildzre this happens when you give the job to another studio, tell them you want the same or more content than the last expansion, then give them less time to do it in than your last expansion got
Metal Bawkses pretends to be Eliphas
Yeah, Soulstorm was a real rush job. The expansion only has its use in the Skirmish and Multiplayer modes (and in modding).
Also, when you win a stronghold mission as Chaos, it still displays the Word Bearers flag. The same for Tau.
2:18 Ascension: *Eliphas the Inheritor* permantly ascends to become a mighty Daemon Prince.
WHAT? I didn't know Eliphas was brought back way before Chaos Rising.
Carron becomes a true alpha legionare and pretends to be Eliphas
Carron ascends into Eliphas.
I am Eliphas
i swear i thought i was the only one who noticed
Carron being the alpha legionaire he is he pretended to be eliphas in dawn of war 2 too
Wow, who would ever have thought that Eliphas the Inheritor would be stronger than some punkass fool from the Alpha Legion?
Xagerx10 what legion?
Only thing Carron beats Eliphas on? Daemon Prince.
Eliphas as a Daemon Prince is a DOWNGRADE, losing all of his weapons and bonuses. Carron meanwhile, KEEPS EVERY SINGLE ONE! It doesn't tell you that which means you find that out yourself....yeah, Carron is actually VERY FUCKING DANGEROUS if allowed to have his way.
carron actually has much better range damage
he basically gets the posessed marine ranged attack on top of the range weapon
does big aoe damage and morale loss
@@boxtank5288 How the f* is a downgrade dude? You DON'T need his weapons if you have higher damage as a Daemon Prince which you use weapons for! Who the heck cares about bonus if you are a devastating living thing?! Plus you just can kept Eliphas the Inheritor and just don't turn into the Daemon Prince. And do when he's nearly dead. Dude, are you f* kidding me? HE LOSES HALF THE MELEE DAMAGE ELIPHAS HAS and you're not supposed to support your units when you become the Daemon Prince. You just hop in and DESTROY EVERYTHING ON SIGHT. What every single one are you talking about? YOU CAN'T KEEP YOUR WEAPONRY ONCE YOU'VE TURN INTO THE DAEMON PRINCE! What do you mean that if allowed to have his way? lel.
@@hallo-mt5tx Yeah. You would prefer having Possessed ranged damage only on a single unit over half melee damage as being a Daemon Prince.
The ironic part is that the Daemon Prince upgrade is actually BAD for Eliphas since it's the balanced multiplayer Daemon Prince and doesn't benefit from any of the perks his other wargear gives him.
Yea when I first got the daemon prince unlock, I was confused why Eliphas wasn't detecting infiltrated units so I had to always rely on my sorcerer. And worst when I'm defending an area with just the garrison
When you put Alpharius's helmet on:
"Look at me, I am the Alpharius now"
Rest of the Alpha Legion: "Should we tell him that we made that dumbass thing as a joke?"
It's funny because under the Daemon Prince transformation in the Soulstorm campaign its labeled as "Eliphas" and not Firraveus and then the model is exactly the same.
One of thousands Alpha Legion tricks
Chaos is so bald and so fewlish...
Indrick Boreale NOH!
bohrealum
Look who's talking
Eliphas has more health, better melee damage, but slightly less ranged damage.
Firraveus has less health and melee damage, but slightly better ranged damage.
Carron would melt most units at full upgrade.
Also Carron keeps his gear and bonuses in Daemon Prince while Eliphas doesn't.
Carron is a fucking Tau.
And Firraveus LOSES FRIGGING HALF THE MELEE DAMAGE ELIPHAS HAS!!!
@@boxtank5288 Carron can melt a sh*t with having Possessed ranged damage on himself only.
You don't need your gear bonuses when you become a Daemon Prince. Also Firraveus LOSES HALF THE MELEE DAMAGE ELIPHAS HAS which means that until Firraveus being useful Eliphas will go in and kill.
@@PelinalWhitestrake36 How the f* you say that?
Just a quick reminder: Firraveus Carron is somehow a fucking Alpha Legionnaire.
Wind Wind He certainly ISN'T Alpharius.
He can't be Alpharius that's for certain. BECAUSE I'M THE ALPHARIUS!
Just as stupid as lord Bale somehow reaching that mantle.
@@hypnobraicracksalesman3028 Bale probably got on that position through Sindri's scheming, since the latter needed Bale for his own demonic ascension
Warp corruption seems to have rotted his brain
Man, that Daemonic Fire upgrade was fucking broken. He could murder entire squads before they got close to him
Daemon Prince aside I much prefer Eliphas to Carron in aesthetic, character and ability.
I mean seriously we got the smooth poisonous voice of Eliphas with the most perfect of witty barns and banter.
Then we have the worst Khornate Chaos lord, METAL BAWKSES Carron.
Whose gear is better is irrelevant. One is a badass mastermind, the other is a foolish, screaming imbecile who runs away from battle while crying about flowers, and who can die in single combat to a Tau Commander.
The Chaos God saw this. They're still laughing.
I didn’t know Soulstorm’s chaos lord was also Eliphas. At least that’s what it says in the description for his ascension lol.
Maybe Eliphas was Carron all along... Alpharius helmet shenanigans
The daemonic fire made the hard campaign a cakewalk, slaughtering any infantry in seconds.
The daemonic fire was really broken, I think he was deadlier as a ranged unit with that upgrade
2:21 Dude srsly, they didn't even hide the copy paste
Soulstorm was a rushed job.
Most of the effort I feel like went into the new factions, stronghold missions, cutscenes, and some balance changes.
Or maybe firraveus carron tricked anyone BUT THE PLAYER into believin he's eliphas after all he's an alpha legionaire
Helmet once worn by someone who claimed in passing to be Alpharius.
Eliphas: I have best gear
Carron: No I have best gear
Lord NEMEROTH: Gentlemen ....... quiet and sit down.
Memeroth.
Nemeroth:*gets killed by a random Ultramarine*
i like Chaos but with Soulstorm i hardly play Chaos, because Eliphas looks like a Dark Lord, while Carron looks like the Male Version of Medusa..
Firraveus Carron: Captain Boreale. I used to work for your corpse on golden chair.
lmao male version of medusa.
Did anyone see the description for daemonic Ascension for Carron?
Yes
I actually prefer Eliphas without a helmet. Here at least. As for Carron, he can hide his ugly mug behind that helm. Eliphas is a lot more handsomer then Carron.
@@thespecialist1264 Their faces are a bit different if you watch closely. So there is a "small" difference, but I agree with Hellman, Eliphas is a lot more handsome than Carron.
1:01 this is how i imagine my own chaos lord Azhik the Desecrator.
Lord of Skin crawlers.
Skin Crawlers is Warband that was separate from Iron Warriors. Their tradition is that every enemy they kill, They'll rip their skin off (unless its Necron or Machine) and wear it as a coat for their armor. Most of the warband are deserters from Loyal chapters. For example Azhik was Tallest Primaris Ultramarine that years since Cadia had fallen known. His treason was due to Disappointment of Cato Sicarius (For his Arrogance).
Azhik's death death happen when he attacked Dark Angels in their sanctuary "The Rock". He underestimated Azrael, and thus Azrael Sliced him in Half
Ohhh nice little story ! I love it
That is some true 'Your Dudes' at work and I love it.
So what I gather reading about the two is that Eliphas has better stats but Carron's flamer breaks moral so easily that if you pit the two against each other with all their gear (sans the daemon prince upgrade which I hear you shouldn't anyways since it removes bonuses from all their other gear) Carron will actually win.
You could just think of that as him cheating.
Yeah, Carron could beat the shit out of Gorgutz AND Eliphas solo thanks to that morale melt...Daemon Prince on Carron actually makes him MORE flatout impossible to kill on his own (he doesn't lose his armor bonuses).
This relies on you playing as him and negating his flaw of being a fucking dumbass.
Demon prince on the left: " Bro stop copying me! "
Death Guard, Emperors Children or Night Lords would fit to Soulstorm.
Glad to know alpharius wore a helmet to differ himself from other Legionnaires despite it goes against his whole doctrine
"I am Alpharius"
Oooo wee I'm Alpharius look at me
@@seermayton-el3488 There's a reason I put it in qoutations
DoW games give out primarch wargear like candy,
Where is Boreale? Everyone knows he was a chaos lord in disguise by his unholy speech!
Overall, Soulstorm could have made a different Daemonic Prince model, then the tog would have looked more brilliant in comparison
*Wears armor of Slaaneshi primarch*
*Wears also chainaxe*
*Somehow isn't traitor and disgrace to Slaanesh*
Alpharius was a Slaanesh worshipper ?
Alpharius Primarch wasn't John Cena?
BRUH thats how chaos undivided works
Uhhhh no? Alpharius wasn’t devoted to any one Chaos God
Yeah I was uneducated back then
in what world is a manreaper less powerful than a fucking chainaxe?!?!?! hell, accursed crozius being better than a manreaper is enough of a stretch lmfao, those two are easily on the same tier.
Eliphas>Firraveus
Whats the difference?
The Daemonic Fire of the Second guy plus his helm which also does morale drain.
@@mattl1962 Daemon prince is still same
@@AxenfonKlatismrek Actually it isn't, Carron keeps all his bonuses while Eliphas does not.
And carron has slightly better range damage
lol. Showing stats on Easy Mode. You SHOULD show them on Hard Mode not Easy Mode. lolol.
Yes, they're going to needlessly make a video about wargear take a bit longer to make just to show they're a "hardcore gamer". Really, dude?