Hi Jimmy this is Ron the black guy that loves your show we are from jamaica and we watch your show all the time...my kids and I call you the professor because you know your stuff with these planes...and your a good example of a very very good dad....your kids are so lucky to have you as a father....may peace be with you and your family....we will keep on watching your show its awesome takecare you set a very good example for all fathers peace to you my friend
This is why complaints of hangars being "too expensive" are often short sighted. Yes, hangars are expensive, but what's more expensive is your airplane dropping 150k in value because it rotted out sitting in the elements.
I know tons of planes that live outside without issues. All comes down to caring about your stuff. If you wash it dry it properly every week and start it up and take care of it then it doesn't matter if it's inside or outside.
Ya, proper long term storage would have preserved this plane. The guy obviously didn't care. I doubt he will get 100k for that. This plane will never fly again.
@pah9134 he might get 100k for it from someone that buys it and pulls the avionics and engines on it if they're good then sell the rest as salvage parts...........maybe.
My much smaller plane lives IN a hanger. Talked to my mechanics about this, he said there are big differences even after a year outside and he treats outside planes differently. I don't believe what was said about the paint on this. I wouldn't believe much on it in general unless I see it myself. 421s have monster geared engines, almost turboprop maintenance costs, a beautiful plane but it will eat your lunch and dinner too.@@spoze171
Having worked for several major aerospace companies and a few small ones over the last 49 years (now retired), it's fun to watch Jimmy's adventures into the world of general aviation. Entertaining and educational. Great content.
@@PerfectInterviewExactly! Not to mention all the hours of work. No matter how much money I put in a plane like that, I'd never really feel safe to risk my life in the thing and forget about family.
I was thinking just that. Nothing could deteriorate that quickly. Tick boxing to get a sale me thinks. This is why I’d take an INDEPENDENT expert to look at a potential purchase. J knows what he’s doing he just teases us for content. Which btw I enjoy.
Great video Jimmy. Walk away, but I said that about Mighty Mouse. Loved flying the Aerostar. I think ours was a 601. It was so fast that the airline owner tore the gear doors off. Those are 777X folding wingtips. Most airliners (aluminum) pressurize to 8.6psi 8000 ft. Cabin altitude. The 787 (carbon fiber) pressurizes to 9.2 psi which gives you a 6000 ft cabin at altitude. 43,000.
That DC-3 / C-47 was actually used to fly Ronald Reagan when he was campaigning for the governor of California in the 60’s then converted to fly live turkeys for a turkey farm ….. the vents on the top of the fuselage were installed to release the heat from said turkeys
My uncle was an engineer for Hartzell propeller in Piqua, Oh. He stuck with them in the TRW days. He did the design work on the voyager that flew around the world. Its super cool to see tou wearing that Hartzell shirt.
I love this video! I’ve got two planes at AWO. I’ve looked at that derelict twin on the ramp for as long as I can remember. I used to install avionics on the field and worked in “whole lotta ones”. So cool to see the collaboration.
“You got to know when to hold ‘em’ Know when to fold em, Know when to walk away, Know when to run.” -Kenny Rogers (he lost his ass on a few airplanes too)
Jimmy, there is/was a Cessna 421C in Oregon for sale and it was referenced in Jerry Wagner’s TH-cam channel (Air Wagner) just the other day. Jerry said it was flying and listed as $199,000.
Thanks once again for an entertaining and enlightening video. Additionally, I am particularly impressed with the father and son dynamics. Silas is really an asset to the presentations. Indeed there would be none without him, but there is so much more. He is so fortunate to be raised by a truly outstanding father who is not just teaching airplanes and work ethic, but all of life’s challenges. Jimmy, you have a fine son who grow up to pass on the values that learned from a great father/son relationship.
Hi Jimmy and team, some years ago (lots actually) my son worked on a small airfield where we once lived. Back then a new start-up company had a King Air twin-engine plane that had dual roles as a VIP plane but with half the seats removed and a "Stretcher" (Gurney?) bolted in was a medivac plane. Due to the sound of Its twin engines and the sound it made, I have a love of twin piston engine aircraft still. . You are so lucky to own or fly twin piston engine aircraft. Thanks all. - Ian England UK.
@@CaptainRon1913 Ah, my bad, must have been the props making the noise I loved then. I just asked my son If the one I spoke of was a turbo twin, he said yes so my bad then.
Love the channel, enjoy watching you always wanted to be able to fly but didn’t work out. If you could would you please think about wearing a wireless mic cause when you get away from the camera you can’t hear you and that would be nice. Keep the video coming and be safe flying.👍👍
That unit under the sink goes to a button the staff can carry and when they are cleaning the room if they have an emergency, they can press it and it relays back up to the management where they are when they hit their panic button. That is the locator that is in each room to tell them what room they were in.
@@popiyerby2088 "Ive fallen and i cant get up.....".....We all have cell phones now and Siri....However.....If staff heres you moaning on the floor they can call for help with a push of a button
No offense jimmy, but put that thing back. Many hotels maids have been assaulted in the rooms, those are panic buttons for a reason, when somebody panics....love the show, save the310
@@rickashford4005 And somebody took the time to write a room number on the back of each one? And hotels would wire something like that in, not by AAA and cr3032 batteries....
Tin foilhat here - and i thought i was paranoid 😂 just search the name of it and i can understand the panic button idea. You can also come across such small devices in cabinets and technical cabinets to warn staff about water leaks which can be very bad in such buildings.
I’m sitting here in Ukiah, Calif…KUKI…Ukiah Airfield…got my pilots license here in 85….hopefull for the future and the best to you fellow TH-camr’s…🇺🇸🇺🇸
Oh my gosh, y'all flew out of Pain Field up in Everett! Then flew south toward Thun Field in Pierce County where i soloed and flew out of. I started out on my dad's lil piper colt pa-22. Dad's next plane was our Cherokee 6. We flew everywhere in her. Then he bought a 172, then his last plane was the 210RG turbo. Gosh, you just came across my feed.... what a bit of serendipity! I loved flying with my dad. His buddy and A&P mechanic was Charlie Bombard. He's probably gone on to glory now... He & dad flew up to Alaska for a fishin trip after dad paid him to do the annual for the 210. Oh the stories him, daddy & all the fellas that sat at the round table @ the Hanger Inn restaurant! I can't wait to explore your channel. Your lil shadow will make a fine pilot some day.....or even a great videographer!. I've moved from Puyallup 3 yrs ago and now live in southeast Oklahoma now.... more blue skies!
There's not enough compression in the cylinders from the rust build up around the valves, so you're wasting time not to mention you're going to ruin the battery and could cause a fire on the electrical side of things
I think it definitely needs door and window seals, I notice all the condensation on the inside of the windows at the beginning of the video. There's probably a lot more unseen corrosion. Unfortunately. 😢. I think it's a clunker.
Like I've said before Jimmy, THAT'S A PLANE YOU NEED!!! Got to fly in a "star" years ago and thought it was the sexiest plane ever built along with the F4U and P51 of course! Eric is a class act guy too. I follow his channel as well, and saw his interviews with his dad. Such a GR8 career and so much info gleaned from him! GR8 vid!!!
This is same type airplane Cessna 414 my dad had but ours didn't have the tip tanks. I learned to fly on this aircraft and subsequently gained ~3000 hrs flying in it. It was a great plane.
The plane is worth 35-40K as it sits. Then part it out and scrap the rest. It's at least a 200K repair job and that doesn't account for the avionics if they are bad... run....and don't look back....
I know a guy that raved about buying a 421 in "airworthy" condition for $150k 2 years ago. He instantly dumped nearly $100k into the panel, New Garmin PFD, autopilot, navigator and flew it for 3 months. 2 years later he is into that plane over $500k. It still looks like crap and the mechanic says it the worst condition twin cessna he's ever worked on. Buy a plane that needs nothing guys
What a treat to fly with such a cool man. It's not often you get a History of such a unique aircraft (Americana) and a beautiful day to take in the view. What you get for your service and youtube channel is priceless, what a blessed life you get for fulfilling a childhood dream. (not saying it didn't take work but....)
Being an AWO pilot and having crawled around that DC3 a bit I actually know that that plane has for a time a charter plane and was used by Ronald Regan for his gubernatorial campaign in 1966. It had been used to haul turkeys until 1964 hence thew vents on top. It has sat on the airport since I can remember and used to sit further back close to the road until that east side of the airport was developed into how it is now. That airport is an absolute madhouse on sunny weekends in the summer
Now that was a great ending on two fronts, you dumped the over priced, bad deal of an aircraft and jumped into an Aerostar. I grew up and lived in Santa Maria during the years when TSI came in to town and started manufacturing aircraft again. It was an everyday thing to see one zipping by on departure or approach. A guy I went to high school with was one of the test pilots and I was in awe. At the local airshow a bad a$$ Aerostar named "Zar" painted sinister black was flown by Jimmy Franklin. It performed aerobatics with smoke billowing from both engines. It was a sight to see. Thanks for the renewed memory of my home town involving the Aerostar. Bravo Jimmy!
Buck, thanks for clarifying, you may be right, I was in my teens back then, it’s been 40-50 years since that time, I just remember the Black Aerostar coming out of nowhere, doing low level, 300 mph passes on flight center, smoke billowing from both engines then going vertical, into a split-S and rolling out, that plane was so graceful and flew like it was on rails and the sound of the engines screaming in sync was exhilarating.
As soon as I saw the condensation on the windows, I knew it was a no go. A shame, the 414 is nice, but that one is hurt. Cool that you got to fly with Eric Reese, that Aerostar is beautiful.
You’re going to have a few of the cylinders corroded because the valves remain open when the engine was shut off. The corrosion probably came from a high humidity area and all that humidity crawls right up the exhaust and right into the cylinders. I expect that if you get it started the corrosion on the valves will disappear and the rings will get some oil bringing the compression up. You did say the engines only had 520 hours or something like that.
I got so excited watching this an realizing that I know exactly where you're at and It's only a few miles from me. I have friends that run a flight school for missionary pilots at that very airport!
Advice from a seasoned A&P / Pilot! Don’t do it, they are terribly expensive to maintain and operate. You should of gotten that Piper Aerostar you looked at the other year. At least with those they come with speed so all the maintenance headaches are worth it.
I have always loved Aerostars, and many friends ask "why in the hell..." or "are you mental?".... this is a great video on why they are just badass! Great job Jimmy!
De-ice boots are actually really saveable. I've treated some really ugly ones these past few months. At work we are prepping planes (like this) for winter season right now. Treat em' with some ShineMaster Prep, Agemaster no 1 and some ShineMaster. It will cost you around 5 hours of work, but they will look like new. It will save you a lot of money and work.
Jimmy the ticking you are hearing are fuel pumps that are in the tip tanks. All the tip tank 400 series Cessna's have them. They come on anytime the master switch is turned on. Their purpose is to pump fuel from the back of the tip tanks to the front where the engine fuel pick ups are. In the early days these pumps were not installed and during high angle of attack climbs if the tip tanks were not full the engine fuel pick ups would become un-ported and engines starved of fuel. The pumps were then installed to prevent the engines of being starved of fuel.
A VP at Aerostar Aircraft Co told me that new pressurized piston Aerostar would have over $1.5 million in parts. So…a old one has the same but mostly worn out parts. The guys buying an airplane for $200k generally can’t afford to maintain all those parts. Likewise, they can’t often swing a $500k+ hangar. One guy’s explanation for the large number of ratty piston twins
T- hangar is 250 month.....shared corporate hangar at $400.....Problem with aerostar owners is they think they need the 500k hangar penthouse attached to a private strip......
An Aerostar will eventually cost you between 500 and 600k when you are all done getting it restored to close to new with full Garmin Glass. But then again I could have a Cirrus for $1m.
Love the video, just work on the sound a bit. Had to turn my phone all the way up or switch to my laptop. How's the military career going? I'm sure all of us would dig an insider drill weekend view. I'm a combat vet myself
I always wondered how the wings transfer load on the Aerostar - there's no spar carry through, it looks like the fuselage takes the load from the wing spars. Just weird.
Cessna T303 Crusader, one of the last ones manufactured would be an excellent choice. But you need to state more of your metrics for a better suggestion if that would not suit. The t303 has excellent handling characteristics and decent speed at altitude. The engines are flat rated so you can fly them balls to the wall all day long and easily cruise 190 knots plus
Hi Jimmy. For a world tour airplane I doubt you will find an old general aviation recip you will want to do that with. Maybe a well kept King Air. Among other reasons, Avgas is getting scarce in many countries. Was recently discussing this very problem with some friends from across the "pond."
@@therealjimmysworld look into the F90. Been seeing then for pretty cheap in the Midwest. Still lots of C90 and B200 going for premium prices but not their love child which just looks cool!
@@ianwalton284that dream got us further than any other in mankind's history. Gotta give credit where credits due. Being pessimistic isn't constructive to anything.
@ianwalton284 what does that have to do with anything? The whole goddamn world is the same way (and we certainly ain't the ones leading the charge anywhere right now).
@@AnarchyEnsues Sadly, one of them did and it cost the life of one of their team. But that wasn’t the plane we are referring to. They started to work on a twin Cessna and ended up tearing it all the way down. They’ll never get out of it what they have into it, even if you count the revenue from the video’s.
It's a shame he let that 414 rot away outside, but it's basically a parts plane at this point. It's too far gone to save. Being pressurized it's not worth what it would take to put it back in flying condition. All of the moisture infiltration means that the seals are gone and it's just done. Sad, but it should have been stored inside. The moisture certainly did its share of damage, but what the moisture didn't ruin, the sun baked the rest of the way to past the point of rescue. Honestly, a 414 is full of too many compromises, in my opinion. The fuselage is larger than the 340, but it's underpowered and you seriously sacrifice range with passengers and baggage. You can't fly it full fuel with 2 people on board, let alone bags. The 340 and 421 present far fewer compromises between range and payload. The 414 has great ramp presence, but it's kind of the red-headed step child of twin Cessnas. That's why I went from my A36TC Bonanza into a 421 Ram conversion before moving to the Conquest II I own and fly now. And you DON'T want an Aerostar if you aren't prepared to pay for the prodigious maintenance. Yes, they are wicked fast and fun to fly, but speaking as someone who had a low-time well sorted one years ago, I was happy to pass it along to the next owner once I got owning one out of my system. It was a maintenance queen and very expensive to maintain. Very finicky to maintain to my standards too. My mechanic spent more time working on mine than I spent flying it. There is a definite price for that performance. But when it was dialed in, it was invigorating and addictive to fly. It's definitely NOT the airplane to do "Jimmy Style". It will certainly bite you, if not kill you. It's a very unforgiving airplane if you do something stupid. It will bite you before you realize what you did.
It's hard to understand why someone would do so little to take care of valuable assets like this. It would probably be less expensive to buy high dollar Cuban Cigars and use $100 dollar bills to light them.😅
I've worked on airports for over 25 years ago. There are two main ways I've seen this happen. 1. Change in circumstances (loss medical, loss of income, etc.) so it becomes a "well, we will get around to it once the circumstances change back" l. Meanwhile the aircraft basically rots and becomes a bigger and bigger burden to being back. I know of plenty of good flying airplanes that have now sat for a decade or two and would need work to even be a "plane on a stick". It's sad, especially because the owner still sees the beautiful flying machine they bought, not the reality of what it has become. 2. The owner passed and their estate wasn't set up to handle the plane. Whoever inherited it knows nothing about planes, literally Googles one and sees it sells for a certain amount and they will never budge from that price. I've also seen one where the family didn't know about it until we sent a certified letter for failure to pay rent. They never paid so it became abandoned and went through the long legal process of becoming airport property. Once that was done we auctioned it. Three times it never hit enough to pay it's cost, so it kept sitting and racking up cost. Eventually,it was sold for scrap and the airport got maybe 5% of the cost the airport had in it.
People will get a little money and start spending without realizing how much it costs to maintain an aircraft, when fortunes take a downturn like in 2008 this happens, storing any aircraft in Florida is probably the worst decision of all. I saw a guy buy 2 Hummers for $160K before the crash, then lost everything when construction went down, people make bad decisions and this is the result, a you tube video !
First Plane looked like a definite can of worms. The Aerostar and its owner was awesome. I will have to watch his other videos. I agree, Jimmy, You need one just like it. Thanks for the Videos.
Jimmy, some altimeters had a vibrator in them so as to avoid stiction. That is probably the noise you heard and couldn't track down. Also, the big Boeing sitting out there is a 787-9 Dreamliner. It's the only one with fold up wing tips. They had to build it that way to fit in the terminal slots at the airports around the world.
Jimmy, I'm Jimmy Packer, I grew up flying. My Grew up flying since I was 2vyears old; He had Piper super cubs in Northern Michigan. He would get them and restore them. My Father was a Dr., an M.D. he was also a pilot. I grew up around seaplanes mostly but a Piper Tripacer and a Cherokee 6.
1:07:20 static wicks , the aircraft on the Airfield where I work have these and they are so precious about them as they cost a shed load of money . Every time we do Aircraft familiarisation they make a big thing of don't twang those things ....Kill joys . We also have the Embraer Phenom 100 and we practiced gaining entry and lift out training of aircrew of said aircraft , any one that has been in one will know they are tight for space !!! . Well after us Firefighters broke several aircraft , being more fixtures and trim inside .....well it got expensive . So now we have a purpose built trainer for us on a trailer to use so we don't break the real thing . This thing has all the switches and levers etc we need for the shut down plus half the cabin , amazing job done by our Station work shops . I was tasked with asking Embraer if they had such a training aid ....a year later I was offered sales of second hand Phenoms on my email , I guess some thing got lost in translation .
I'm in to this video only 2 minutes and 26 seconds and that aircraft is NOT worth anywhere near $100,000 in its current condition. Walk away Jimmy, unless they pay you to haul it off. ok back to our regularly scheduled Jimmys World video. Popcorn and a 6 pack of beer please, gonna need it because this is going to be painful and I'm gonna need to drown Jimmys sorrows for this caper LOL
HOLY COW!! I _IMMEDIATELY_ recognized the Airport where that 414 sat!! Learned to fly there (the cafe by the plane was the FBO). I LOVE that Airport!!! =)
$100,000 for a $250,000 airplane means you'll put most of the %150,000 to get it in the air again. You may be able to find a flying one for less than the $150, 000 needed for repairs
“You can see the nose gear in the spinner” - this is what experienced pilots can teach any of us. One of the best instructors I ever flew with said to me one day while turning base “can you see our shadow on the ground, (i say yep, how cool), he responds “can you see any other aircraft shadows near us?”…… now, I always look even 15 years later.
Jimmy, you got the cash. Just buy a new Pilatus PC12NGX for the world tour. It's up there with your S Class 👍 BTW - a couple cans of aerosol disinfectant should help some of the smells in those trashcan planes 😜
Be careful with those Pressurized Twin Cessna's my friend, if it's been sitting outside it's gonna be a maintenance nightmare chasing down all the leaks. I nearly bought a Cessna 421 until I read into the non stop maintenance. Every time I've flown in a 414 I've seen some sort of issue. I am glad I stuck with a 310R.
Maybe Jason can use some parts of this one #savethe401.. you’re right to walk away. It was nice to see the one engine running though. Best regards from the Netherlands again Jimmy; when is Sylus going to get his pilots license by the way?..
Well I’m making this comment at seven minutes into the vid. RUN away jimmy run fast too ! Edit new comment at 17 min in, there is no way in hell that thing went thru annual within the last two years as stated. That corroded turd with wings is about 25k savage tops.
Man I'd be doing something if I can get my son in to aviation like you got yours!! He's your sidekick I need this to man! Love your videos giving me some ideas to try with my son thanks!!
😮 Jimmy that's not a walk away from it it's a run away from it. Lol
lol right? That's a used mercedes if I've ever seen one. RUN!
Yep..run
Hi Jimmy this is Ron the black guy that loves your show we are from jamaica and we watch your show all the time...my kids and I call you the professor because you know your stuff with these planes...and your a good example of a very very good dad....your kids are so lucky to have you as a father....may peace be with you and your family....we will keep on watching your show its awesome takecare you set a very good example for all fathers peace to you my friend
Jah know Ronny !
Why itell us you're black
Right on
This is why complaints of hangars being "too expensive" are often short sighted. Yes, hangars are expensive, but what's more expensive is your airplane dropping 150k in value because it rotted out sitting in the elements.
I know tons of planes that live outside without issues. All comes down to caring about your stuff. If you wash it dry it properly every week and start it up and take care of it then it doesn't matter if it's inside or outside.
Jimmy do emergency services a favor and walk away. Your family is to valuable
Ya, proper long term storage would have preserved this plane. The guy obviously didn't care. I doubt he will get 100k for that. This plane will never fly again.
@pah9134 he might get 100k for it from someone that buys it and pulls the avionics and engines on it if they're good then sell the rest as salvage parts...........maybe.
My much smaller plane lives IN a hanger. Talked to my mechanics about this, he said there are big differences even after a year outside and he treats outside planes differently. I don't believe what was said about the paint on this. I wouldn't believe much on it in general unless I see it myself. 421s have monster geared engines, almost turboprop maintenance costs, a beautiful plane but it will eat your lunch and dinner too.@@spoze171
Having worked for several major aerospace companies and a few small ones over the last 49 years (now retired), it's fun to watch Jimmy's adventures into the world of general aviation. Entertaining and educational. Great content.
Wow. A $100,000 airplane with $200,000 worth of problems. What a deal.
@@PerfectInterviewExactly! Not to mention all the hours of work. No matter how much money I put in a plane like that, I'd never really feel safe to risk my life in the thing and forget about family.
If that plane was in annual last year, I don’t recommend hiring that guy to do your annuals 😂😂😂
It was in annual…but did it pass the annual.
"Ferry permit approved" was scratched off so it just said "approved"
I was thinking just that. Nothing could deteriorate that quickly. Tick boxing to get a sale me thinks. This is why I’d take an INDEPENDENT expert to look at a potential purchase. J knows what he’s doing he just teases us for content. Which btw I enjoy.
Great video Jimmy. Walk away, but I said that about Mighty Mouse.
Loved flying the Aerostar. I think ours was a 601. It was so fast that the airline owner tore the gear doors off.
Those are 777X folding wingtips.
Most airliners (aluminum) pressurize to 8.6psi 8000 ft. Cabin altitude. The 787 (carbon fiber) pressurizes to 9.2 psi which gives you a 6000 ft cabin at altitude. 43,000.
My bet is, it was an attempted annual !
Finally! Jimmy makes a decision I agree with. That thing had guaranteed airframe issues.
when switches on the yoke are corroded boy you know you have problems. lol
That DC-3 / C-47 was actually used to fly Ronald Reagan when he was campaigning for the governor of California in the 60’s then converted to fly live turkeys for a turkey farm ….. the vents on the top of the fuselage were installed to release the heat from said turkeys
My uncle was an engineer for Hartzell propeller in Piqua, Oh. He stuck with them in the TRW days. He did the design work on the voyager that flew around the world. Its super cool to see tou wearing that Hartzell shirt.
I love this video! I’ve got two planes at AWO. I’ve looked at that derelict twin on the ramp for as long as I can remember. I used to install avionics on the field and worked in “whole lotta ones”. So cool to see the collaboration.
Jimmy, the main tank recirc pumps are on the landing light circuit. You have to pull the retractable landing light breakers to stop those pumps.
all correct except the pumps are called "continuous duty tip tank transfer pumps"
Watching Jimmy makes me want to save all the planes I can in this life time
Just gotta have a HUGE bank account!!
“You got to know when to hold ‘em’
Know when to fold em,
Know when to walk away,
Know when to run.”
-Kenny Rogers (he lost his ass on a few airplanes too)
Jimmy, there is/was a Cessna 421C in Oregon for sale and it was referenced in Jerry Wagner’s TH-cam channel (Air Wagner) just the other day. Jerry said it was flying and listed as $199,000.
I'll bet both engines and props are 5 hours short of TBO, even if everything is perfect your out $100k+.
Be strong enough to be honest and kind
Especially when you list a plane
I love that Jimmy is doing this with his son.
"I don't want this thing spying on me." (but has a phone in his pocket all the time). 😂
I know someone that only carries a flip phone for that reason. its not even GPS enabled. lol
Its his decision to have his phone in his Pocket. It wasnt his decision to have that thing in his room. There's a fine difference my guy.
people must not have credit cards either. lol
Thanks once again for an entertaining and enlightening video. Additionally, I am particularly impressed with the father and son dynamics. Silas is really an asset to the presentations. Indeed there would be none without him, but there is so much more. He is so fortunate to be raised by a truly outstanding father who is not just teaching airplanes and work ethic, but all of life’s challenges. Jimmy, you have a fine son who grow up to pass on the values that learned from a great father/son relationship.
Hi Jimmy and team, some years ago (lots actually) my son worked on a small airfield where we once lived. Back then a new start-up company had a King Air twin-engine plane that had dual roles as a VIP plane but with half the seats removed and a "Stretcher" (Gurney?) bolted in was a medivac plane. Due to the sound of Its twin engines and the sound it made, I have a love of twin piston engine aircraft still. . You are so lucky to own or fly twin piston engine aircraft. Thanks all. - Ian England UK.
King Air's were and are turbo props, not piston engines
Cool story broski
@@CaptainRon1913 Ah, my bad, must have been the props making the noise I loved then. I just asked my son If the one I spoke of was a turbo twin, he said yes so my bad then.
Good morning Jimmy. I can see you owning an aerostar for the world tour.
Thank you for sharing. God Bless 🙏
Wow! Great video! Thank you, Jimmy! And yes, you Gotta get one of them!
Love the channel, enjoy watching you always wanted to be able to fly but didn’t work out. If you could would you please think about wearing a wireless mic cause when you get away from the camera you can’t hear you and that would be nice. Keep the video coming and be safe flying.👍👍
That unit under the sink goes to a button the staff can carry and when they are cleaning the room if they have an emergency, they can press it and it relays back up to the management where they are when they hit their panic button. That is the locator that is in each room to tell them what room they were in.
@@popiyerby2088 "Ive fallen and i cant get up.....".....We all have cell phones now and Siri....However.....If staff heres you moaning on the floor they can call for help with a push of a button
No offense jimmy, but put that thing back. Many hotels maids have been assaulted in the rooms, those are panic buttons for a reason, when somebody panics....love the show, save the310
Looked like a battery powered air freshener to me. Get rid of the mold smell under the leaky sink.
@@rickashford4005 And somebody took the time to write a room number on the back of each one? And hotels would wire something like that in, not by AAA and cr3032 batteries....
Tin foilhat here - and i thought i was paranoid 😂 just search the name of it and i can understand the panic button idea. You can also come across such small devices in cabinets and technical cabinets to warn staff about water leaks which can be very bad in such buildings.
I’m sitting here in Ukiah, Calif…KUKI…Ukiah Airfield…got my pilots license here in 85….hopefull for the future and the best to you fellow TH-camr’s…🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thats an awesome plane. My favorite of all time is the Areo Commander. Thanks for the look around.
Oh my gosh, y'all flew out of Pain Field up in Everett! Then flew south toward Thun Field in Pierce County where i soloed and flew out of. I started out on my dad's lil piper colt pa-22. Dad's next plane was our Cherokee 6. We flew everywhere in her. Then he bought a 172, then his last plane was the 210RG turbo. Gosh, you just came across my feed.... what a bit of serendipity! I loved flying with my dad. His buddy and A&P mechanic was Charlie Bombard. He's probably gone on to glory now... He & dad flew up to Alaska for a fishin trip after dad paid him to do the annual for the 210. Oh the stories him, daddy & all the fellas that sat at the round table @ the Hanger Inn restaurant! I can't wait to explore your channel. Your lil shadow will make a fine pilot some day.....or even a great videographer!. I've moved from Puyallup 3 yrs ago and now live in southeast Oklahoma now.... more blue skies!
Eric & Jimmy in the same video, what a great way to start a weekend.
Save a Aerostar
Great Aircraft! And, Pilot! Great Video Jimmy, Thank You All 3 for the Ride Along!!!
I hope you find an Aerostar soon Jimmy. I think we all know how bad you want one !
There's not enough compression in the cylinders from the rust build up around the valves, so you're wasting time not to mention you're going to ruin the battery and could cause a fire on the electrical side of things
I think it definitely needs door and window seals, I notice all the condensation on the inside of the windows at the beginning of the video. There's probably a lot more unseen corrosion. Unfortunately. 😢. I think it's a clunker.
Like I've said before Jimmy, THAT'S A PLANE YOU NEED!!! Got to fly in a "star" years ago and thought it was the sexiest plane ever built along with the F4U and P51 of course! Eric is a class act guy too. I follow his channel as well, and saw his interviews with his dad. Such a GR8 career and so much info gleaned from him! GR8 vid!!!
This is same type airplane Cessna 414 my dad had but ours didn't have the tip tanks. I learned to fly on this aircraft and subsequently gained ~3000 hrs flying in it. It was a great plane.
Thanks!
The plane is worth 35-40K as it sits. Then part it out and scrap the rest. It's at least a 200K repair job and that doesn't account for the avionics if they are bad... run....and don't look back....
No, the used engines, turbo, heater, gear, and skin is all good.....I would says its 60 to 100k
@@MickyMonday- No chance - the demand for old Cessna twins is spiraling down
@@davidburke5782 Maybe, but the cost of replacement parts are going up....
Definitely too risky. I would value the plane at $20k as the avionics are a ? I would run away fast though.
@@stephanielongden597 one wing and one dead engine are gonna run 20k....You think parts are cheap? IMO Spars should be good, its a low time airframe
I know a guy that raved about buying a 421 in "airworthy" condition for $150k 2 years ago. He instantly dumped nearly $100k into the panel, New Garmin PFD, autopilot, navigator and flew it for 3 months. 2 years later he is into that plane over $500k. It still looks like crap and the mechanic says it the worst condition twin cessna he's ever worked on. Buy a plane that needs nothing guys
That made my day lol I can’t imagine people trolling them now 😂 love you jimmy you’re my favourite aviation channel.
What a treat to fly with such a cool man. It's not often you get a History of such a unique aircraft (Americana) and a beautiful day to take in the view. What you get for your service and youtube channel is priceless, what a blessed life you get for fulfilling a childhood dream. (not saying it didn't take work but....)
Being an AWO pilot and having crawled around that DC3 a bit I actually know that that plane has for a time a charter plane and was used by Ronald Regan for his gubernatorial campaign in 1966. It had been used to haul turkeys until 1964 hence thew vents on top. It has sat on the airport since I can remember and used to sit further back close to the road until that east side of the airport was developed into how it is now. That airport is an absolute madhouse on sunny weekends in the summer
There were no 421s in 64
was talking about the dc3
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Now that was a great ending on two fronts, you dumped the over priced, bad deal of an aircraft and jumped into an Aerostar. I grew up and lived in Santa Maria during the years when TSI came in to town and started manufacturing aircraft again. It was an everyday thing to see one zipping by on departure or approach. A guy I went to high school with was one of the test pilots and I was in awe. At the local airshow a bad a$$ Aerostar named "Zar" painted sinister black was flown by Jimmy Franklin. It performed aerobatics with smoke billowing from both engines. It was a sight to see. Thanks for the renewed memory of my home town involving the Aerostar. Bravo Jimmy!
I think the Aerostar 600 was named "Starship Pride" and the character played by Jimmy Franklin was named "Zar"
Buck, thanks for clarifying, you may be right, I was in my teens back then, it’s been 40-50 years since that time, I just remember the Black Aerostar coming out of nowhere, doing low level, 300 mph passes on flight center, smoke billowing from both engines then going vertical, into a split-S and rolling out, that plane was so graceful and flew like it was on rails and the sound of the engines screaming in sync was exhilarating.
New paint in 2015??? You sure you’re looking at the right aircraft 😂😂??
You are sure spending a lot of time in my neck of the woods. Glad you went to check out that C-47 on the field.
As soon as I saw the condensation on the windows, I knew it was a no go. A shame, the 414 is nice, but that one is hurt.
Cool that you got to fly with Eric Reese, that Aerostar is beautiful.
You’re going to have a few of the cylinders corroded because the valves remain open when the engine was shut off. The corrosion probably came from a high humidity area and all that humidity crawls right up the exhaust and right into the cylinders. I expect that if you get it started the corrosion on the valves will disappear and the rings will get some oil bringing the compression up. You did say the engines only had 520 hours or something like that.
Even now a very inspiring aviator! Thought at 64 I was getting too old, but now I am reconsidering this!!!!!
Excellent content as usual!
There was a time when there were 6 Aerostars based at KTOC in Toccoa ,Ga at the same time. They are a special breed of plane.
Dude you really are the airplane version of VGG, you all need to do a colab.
More like Hoovies Garage, they also have many personal similarities, I wonder if they are distant relatives.
I got so excited watching this an realizing that I know exactly where you're at and It's only a few miles from me. I have friends that run a flight school for missionary pilots at that very airport!
Advice from a seasoned A&P / Pilot! Don’t do it, they are terribly expensive to maintain and operate. You should of gotten that Piper Aerostar you looked at the other year. At least with those they come with speed so all the maintenance headaches are worth it.
I have always loved Aerostars, and many friends ask "why in the hell..." or "are you mental?".... this is a great video on why they are just badass! Great job Jimmy!
De-ice boots are actually really saveable. I've treated some really ugly ones these past few months. At work we are prepping planes (like this) for winter season right now. Treat em' with some ShineMaster Prep, Agemaster no 1 and some ShineMaster. It will cost you around 5 hours of work, but they will look like new. It will save you a lot of money and work.
black speed tape, i dont think the guy who did the last annual would even notice....
Jimmy the ticking you are hearing are fuel pumps that are in the tip tanks. All the tip tank 400 series Cessna's have them. They come on anytime the master switch is turned on. Their purpose is to pump fuel from the back of the tip tanks to the front where the engine fuel pick ups are. In the early days these pumps were not installed and during high angle of attack climbs if the tip tanks were not full the engine fuel pick ups would become un-ported and engines starved of fuel. The pumps were then installed to prevent the engines of being starved of fuel.
Yikes.. high aoa and a motor cuts out
Wonder how many accidents were attributed to that design issue
A VP at Aerostar Aircraft Co told me that new pressurized piston Aerostar would have over $1.5 million in parts. So…a old one has the same but mostly worn out parts. The guys buying an airplane for $200k generally can’t afford to maintain all those parts. Likewise, they can’t often swing a $500k+ hangar. One guy’s explanation for the large number of ratty piston twins
T- hangar is 250 month.....shared corporate hangar at $400.....Problem with aerostar owners is they think they need the 500k hangar penthouse attached to a private strip......
An Aerostar will eventually cost you between 500 and 600k when you are all done getting it restored to close to new with full Garmin Glass. But then again I could have a Cirrus for $1m.
@@AerostarPilot or get 5 Aerostar owners to share-own a Honda Jet.
6:15 am on a Saturday morning, I'm drinking coffee watching Jimmy's World! 😂🤘
Thanks for doing this stuff so we don't have to.
I am fascinated by planes and flying, just terrified of it.
I get to live vicariously here.
Buy yourself Microsofts MSFS 2020 simulator. You can fly in what you like wherever you like in the world, all for 100 bucks.
@@jag1963 thats a great idea!!!!
Microsoft flight Sim 98 is the last time I flew lol.
@@jag1963 just got an Alienware pc. Will be getting a flight sim!
Love the video, just work on the sound a bit. Had to turn my phone all the way up or switch to my laptop. How's the military career going? I'm sure all of us would dig an insider drill weekend view. I'm a combat vet myself
I always wondered how the wings transfer load on the Aerostar - there's no spar carry through, it looks like the fuselage takes the load from the wing spars. Just weird.
There's only 6 seats, the spar goes through the cabin right behind the back seat.
Cessna T303 Crusader, one of the last ones manufactured would be an excellent choice. But you need to state more of your metrics for a better suggestion if that would not suit. The t303 has excellent handling characteristics and decent speed at altitude. The engines are flat rated so you can fly them balls to the wall all day long and easily cruise 190 knots plus
Hi Jimmy. For a world tour airplane I doubt you will find an old general aviation recip you will want to do that with. Maybe a well kept King Air. Among other reasons, Avgas is getting scarce in many countries. Was recently discussing this very problem with some friends from across the "pond."
Interesting… I didn’t know they were already taking steps to do away with 100LL…
Agreed, a C90 or maybe a Cessna 425. Plenty of places where you have to get Avgas shipped in and paid for whether you use it or not
@@therealjimmysworld look into the F90. Been seeing then for pretty cheap in the Midwest. Still lots of C90 and B200 going for premium prices but not their love child which just looks cool!
Please keep posting about both projects. Helio's are my favorite but I am interested in all aircraft and your creativity is inspiring.
Such a shame to see something so fine and valuable just go to waste.
The American dream.
There's airplanes parked all over the world rotting away like this .
@@ianwalton284that dream got us further than any other in mankind's history. Gotta give credit where credits due. Being pessimistic isn't constructive to anything.
@ianwalton284 what does that have to do with anything? The whole goddamn world is the same way (and we certainly ain't the ones leading the charge anywhere right now).
When you got the right started, I thought for sure you were going to say, "Ok, let's go for a ride." LOL
Unless you are willing to go the way of the Rebuild Rescue guys, run away!
Exactly, total tear down and rebuild, like an old car strip it down to the frame and start putting new everything on it.
@@JackThelRipperit just needs some love
@@wolfpaw2715- No it needs to come apart - it will be a bag of nails
Didn't their plane crash on a test flight?
@@AnarchyEnsues
Sadly, one of them did and it cost the life of one of their team. But that wasn’t the plane we are referring to. They started to work on a twin Cessna and ended up tearing it all the way down. They’ll never get out of it what they have into it, even if you count the revenue from the video’s.
Aerostars and Commanders. Dreamt of them since I was 16. Nice vid, thx for the tour.
It's a shame he let that 414 rot away outside, but it's basically a parts plane at this point. It's too far gone to save. Being pressurized it's not worth what it would take to put it back in flying condition. All of the moisture infiltration means that the seals are gone and it's just done. Sad, but it should have been stored inside. The moisture certainly did its share of damage, but what the moisture didn't ruin, the sun baked the rest of the way to past the point of rescue.
Honestly, a 414 is full of too many compromises, in my opinion. The fuselage is larger than the 340, but it's underpowered and you seriously sacrifice range with passengers and baggage. You can't fly it full fuel with 2 people on board, let alone bags. The 340 and 421 present far fewer compromises between range and payload. The 414 has great ramp presence, but it's kind of the red-headed step child of twin Cessnas. That's why I went from my A36TC Bonanza into a 421 Ram conversion before moving to the Conquest II I own and fly now.
And you DON'T want an Aerostar if you aren't prepared to pay for the prodigious maintenance. Yes, they are wicked fast and fun to fly, but speaking as someone who had a low-time well sorted one years ago, I was happy to pass it along to the next owner once I got owning one out of my system. It was a maintenance queen and very expensive to maintain. Very finicky to maintain to my standards too. My mechanic spent more time working on mine than I spent flying it. There is a definite price for that performance. But when it was dialed in, it was invigorating and addictive to fly. It's definitely NOT the airplane to do "Jimmy Style". It will certainly bite you, if not kill you. It's a very unforgiving airplane if you do something stupid. It will bite you before you realize what you did.
1:14:56 What a beautiful and very clean and well looked after Aircraft , thank you both for the video brilliant as always .
A Can-O-Worms to run away from!
Thanks for a great video. I’m learning to use my live scope with UHD106sv and your setting are very very helpful. Blessings!😊
It's hard to understand why someone would do so little to take care of valuable assets like this. It would probably be less expensive to buy high dollar Cuban Cigars and use $100 dollar bills to light them.😅
I've worked on airports for over 25 years ago. There are two main ways I've seen this happen.
1. Change in circumstances (loss medical, loss of income, etc.) so it becomes a "well, we will get around to it once the circumstances change back" l. Meanwhile the aircraft basically rots and becomes a bigger and bigger burden to being back. I know of plenty of good flying airplanes that have now sat for a decade or two and would need work to even be a "plane on a stick". It's sad, especially because the owner still sees the beautiful flying machine they bought, not the reality of what it has become.
2. The owner passed and their estate wasn't set up to handle the plane. Whoever inherited it knows nothing about planes, literally Googles one and sees it sells for a certain amount and they will never budge from that price. I've also seen one where the family didn't know about it until we sent a certified letter for failure to pay rent. They never paid so it became abandoned and went through the long legal process of becoming airport property. Once that was done we auctioned it. Three times it never hit enough to pay it's cost, so it kept sitting and racking up cost. Eventually,it was sold for scrap and the airport got maybe 5% of the cost the airport had in it.
That’s the weird thing about airplane owners. Expensive as hell to buy but they let them rot.
People will get a little money and start spending without realizing how much it costs to maintain an aircraft, when fortunes take a downturn like in 2008 this happens, storing any aircraft in Florida is probably the worst decision of all. I saw a guy buy 2 Hummers for $160K before the crash, then lost everything when construction went down, people make bad decisions and this is the result, a you tube video !
That is a super nice plane. Cruising above the clouds, so cool engines. I really enjoyed the story regarding his dad and the plane. Very Cool!
That panic device looked more like a wifi flood sensor to me.
First Plane looked like a definite can of worms. The Aerostar and its owner was awesome. I will have to watch his other videos. I agree, Jimmy, You need one just like it. Thanks for the Videos.
Jimmy, some altimeters had a vibrator in them so as to avoid stiction. That is probably the noise you heard and couldn't track down. Also, the big Boeing sitting out there is a 787-9 Dreamliner. It's the only one with fold up wing tips. They had to build it that way to fit in the terminal slots at the airports around the world.
Think you're thinking off the 777-X that has the folding wing tips it's a feature exclusive to the 777X only
Jimmy, I'm Jimmy Packer, I grew up flying. My Grew up flying since I was 2vyears old; He had Piper super cubs in Northern Michigan. He would get them and restore them. My Father was a Dr., an M.D. he was also a pilot. I grew up around seaplanes mostly but a Piper Tripacer and a Cherokee 6.
Maybe they will just donate it! Maybe Jason wants it for parts! 😂
1:07:20 static wicks , the aircraft on the Airfield where I work have these and they are so precious about them as they cost a shed load of money . Every time we do Aircraft familiarisation they make a big thing of don't twang those things ....Kill joys . We also have the Embraer Phenom 100 and we practiced gaining entry and lift out training of aircrew of said aircraft , any one that has been in one will know they are tight for space !!! . Well after us Firefighters broke several aircraft , being more fixtures and trim inside .....well it got expensive . So now we have a purpose built trainer for us on a trailer to use so we don't break the real thing . This thing has all the switches and levers etc we need for the shut down plus half the cabin , amazing job done by our Station work shops . I was tasked with asking Embraer if they had such a training aid ....a year later I was offered sales of second hand Phenoms on my email , I guess some thing got lost in translation .
787 is 6000’ cabin. Most other airliners are 8000’
That's beacause it should not crash into the International Space Station.
Good morning from Minnesota! Great episode!
I swear this guys first priority in every plane is the cup holder.
I really dig the music clip you used here... its very heavy sounding. Full of turmoil... quite lovely.....greasy even....
I like the sound of, “Save the 414”!
Exactly
I'm in to this video only 2 minutes and 26 seconds and that aircraft is NOT worth anywhere near $100,000 in its current condition. Walk away Jimmy, unless they pay you to haul it off. ok back to our regularly scheduled Jimmys World video. Popcorn and a 6 pack of beer please, gonna need it because this is going to be painful and I'm gonna need to drown Jimmys sorrows for this caper LOL
If you got this one free, you would probably be in it about fifty more than it’s worth when you finished.
HOLY COW!! I _IMMEDIATELY_ recognized the Airport where that 414 sat!! Learned to fly there (the cafe by the plane was the FBO). I LOVE that Airport!!! =)
$100,000 for a $250,000 airplane means you'll put most of the %150,000 to get it in the air again. You may be able to find a flying one for less than the $150, 000 needed for repairs
Everytime I see the Aerostar I think of the movie "American Made"
I agree. That is good advise. Spend the $250, keep it 5 years, sell it for $350.
“You can see the nose gear in the spinner” - this is what experienced pilots can teach any of us. One of the best instructors I ever flew with said to me one day while turning base “can you see our shadow on the ground, (i say yep, how cool), he responds “can you see any other aircraft shadows near us?”…… now, I always look even 15 years later.
The aeroshell tasting joke never gets old 🙂
Democracy is so funny in america. Remember the golden rule....He who has the gold, make the rules...
Jimmy, you got the cash. Just buy a new Pilatus PC12NGX for the world tour. It's up there with your S Class 👍 BTW - a couple cans of aerosol disinfectant should help some of the smells in those trashcan planes 😜
It looks like a money pit run.
Be careful with those Pressurized Twin Cessna's my friend, if it's been sitting outside it's gonna be a maintenance nightmare chasing down all the leaks. I nearly bought a Cessna 421 until I read into the non stop maintenance. Every time I've flown in a 414 I've seen some sort of issue. I am glad I stuck with a 310R.
Looks like that plane was stored in the ocean
@42:42 - Dude, you just blew up my speakers. I really CANNOT watch videos that vary so wildly in sound volumes I just can't.
No other person in this world spends this much on planes than Jimmy 😂
Maybe Jason can use some parts of this one #savethe401.. you’re right to walk away. It was nice to see the one engine running though. Best regards from the Netherlands again Jimmy; when is Sylus going to get his pilots license by the way?..
Well I’m making this comment at seven minutes into the vid. RUN away jimmy run fast too ! Edit new comment at 17 min in, there is no way in hell that thing went thru annual within the last two years as stated. That corroded turd with wings is about 25k savage tops.
I KNOW THAT AIRPORT! ❤ HAHA! 😂 Jimmy in the pnw! I recognized that white and blue striped building... then when I saw the DC3 it sealed the deal! ❤👍
Huge money pit!
Man I'd be doing something if I can get my son in to aviation like you got yours!! He's your sidekick I need this to man! Love your videos giving me some ideas to try with my son thanks!!
Great, great episode.... u get some cool rides..... 😎
Tips for the B-roll cut scenes with music: Use a gimbal and fast motion but with slow-mo to make the pans less jarring.
I have a lancair turboprop IV-P you can have for the price of what you're going to put into that project.