This film is a masterpiece. And this scene, in its subtlety, nuance, and slow build is just heartbreaking and beautiful. Don't know that it has been surpassed. Wonderful!
This film saved my life. When I watched it as a boy (Living in the North), I felt understood for the first time. I have nothing but the deepest respect for all involved in this film. A true masterpiece based on a wonderful novel (A kestrel for a knave)
@@musicloverlondon6070If anything the accent in the film is watered down a bit. In this scene Billy speaks with a genuine accent and manner of speech, but some of the other lads I’ve noticed don’t sound as natural.
Billy is a smart kid but being constantly belittled and talked down to by his teaches as being a dunce and not going to amount to anything in life. At home, he is constantly bullied by his elder brother Jud and his parents have written off as a nobody. No wonder he mentally and emotionally switches off at school and doesn't have the interest to pay attention.
This was filmed near to where I grew up. The author of A Kestrel for a Knave went to my school. He interviewed our class in 1978 whilst researching for Looks and Smiles. Billy was me when I was growing up.
Must be 20 years since I saw the film but this scene always stuck with me. I find it sadder than any of the tragic bit that follow. Something about the wee boys passion shining through all that oppressive misery. Nothing captures School of that time better.
Colin Welland plays the role of school teacher absolutely spot on and David Bradleys acting is astounding given he had no previous experience....."Kes" was his first role. Ken Loach was interviewed on tv a few days ago and he said David (Billy Casper) struggled with remembering his lines but often ad libbed so naturally, Ken Loach left it in.
I love this movie and watched it on TH-cam regularly until they yanked it off, forcing me to buy the dvd (haven’t done it yet), all the actors were locals, the Yorkshire dialect was hard to understand but I understood most of it, all the performances were terrific, felt so bad for Billy, the only time he was ever happy is when he was with Kes, you can see how animated he is just talking about his passion. It’s a shame more people don’t know about this classic film.
What struck me was the tension between institutions and freedom. The teacher bosses Billy in class but is under Billy’s authority in the field. When Judd kills the bird we see it again. Money and institution clashing with something more beautiful. The film reminds me of childhood, bizarre schools and the urge for freedom. For me it was punk and heavy metal that suggested a way out. This is an important and beautiful film.
Farthing were great to Billy in book. Pure relationship between the two, Farthing like the dad Billy lost, both only faintly aware of the connection at best. Lovely
We did this book when I was at school. The book is called "A Kestrel for a Knave" and it was by Barry Hines - though we still called it "Kes" because most of us had seen the movie. In the book the character of the kid is a lot more developed.
Feel sorry for Billy Casper, constantly belittled and talked down to by his teaches as being stupid and won't ever amount to anything in his life and comes from a toxic home. No wonder why he misbehaves most of the time and gets into mischief. The kestrel was the only comfort in his life where he felt at ease and at peace.
I highly recommend reading the book "A Kestrel for a Knave" by Barry Hines on which the film was based. The story runs slightly differently to the film and is a great little book.
I was lucky to have Barry Hines come to our school for a talk about Kes back in the day, our teacher was from the Barnsley area and knew him, wonderful film and what a privalige it was to have the author of the original book come to speak in our class.
Kes and 400 Blows are the two masterpieces in cinema about growing up. If he never makes another film to equal the legend of Kes, David (Dai) Bradley should know that no actor with an ounce of sense would dare even dreaming of doing a remake. Kes is and will always be Bradleys film, whilst taking nothing away from the great Loach.
Fully agreed. Kes and The 400 Blows are both masterpiece coming-of-age stories. Both are in the same rarefied company. I've yet to see an American film do this well. What we seem to get is adult nostalgia about growing up (Stand by Me), or lowest common denominator pandering (ET). But the the "real" experience of growing up, with all of its pain, confusion, ennui, energy and sorrow - is rarely seen, except in European films. I wish I knew the answer why.
To be fair, I feel like Todd Solondz, Gus van Sant, Noah Baumbach, Greta Gerwig and Richard Linklater -- to name a few -- have dealt with themes around growing up in the USA in a non-mawkish manner.
That was so natural. It's ether your Mum being a very good actor or Loach knew *exactly* what he was doing. None of this scene feels forced or scripted.
Just over a minute and a half was cut from this scene. Who by and why I have no idea. The original version has not been seen in years. Thankfully, I have the missing bit from this scene in my collection. It should never have been cut.
It's a joy to hear those rich Yorkshire accents that are sometimes difficult to understand. I think that's changing now & English regional accents are becoming homogenised or developing into ugly urban street slang like here in London.☹
The hawk that was used in the film actually belonged to captain Robert nairac the legendary guards captain murdered by the IRA who’s body was never found
Beautiful, and because its real. Billy isnt used to being centre of attention but overcomes his nerves to talk about a subject he knows about. Billys mates who give him a bad time normally are hanging on his every word. Just a pity the " cut" part of this scene, where Tibbut asks Billy about birds mating ( and Billy turns the qeustion back on him superbly, even Colin Welland is in stitches) isnt in this. Superbly done as is the rest of this film.
Look at Kes missing scene. If you can get the full version you will never go back. I cannot watch the dubbed watered down version. It is very rare and I think officially unavailable with the full length version of this scene it’s only a couple of mins but makes a difference. Look at Kes The Missing Scene on TH-cam. Also some versions have the voices dubbed by the original actors who do not speak that way. Yorkshire is a language as is Geordie etc.
Awesome film..but if anyone reads this comment please answer my question....The boy talking about the hawk...is this the same guy that starred in Aliens. I mean the 1st Film..older obviously....you the guy in the 1st Alien film where hes on hid back on the dinner table after eating what looked like noodles and a alien burst out of his chest and grew into a full adult alien and killed all the crew except Segorny weaver (cant spell her name)...so either that or he just looks the same but i think both films were early to mid 70's so actually maybe its not..
brooky bond No but it’s a good think as the two are similar and this was very perceptive of you. The guy in Alien is John Hurt, a famous actor. The young boy talking about the hawk is David Bradley, talking with a very broad Barnsley accent. If you you tube his name he doesn’t talk like that now. He’s very polite and softly spoken.
The PE teacher in Kes is Brian Glove who did star in the Alien movie. Type in Kes football scene and you will see Brian Glover as the PE teacher wearing the red tracksuit. The football scene is hillarious.
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I’m reading this book with my year 7s and they absolutely love it. Can’t wait to show them the film.
This film is a masterpiece. And this scene, in its subtlety, nuance, and slow build is just heartbreaking and beautiful. Don't know that it has been surpassed. Wonderful!
Beautifully put. It sums up how I feel about this film. It never fails to shake me to the core. A truly astonishing piece of art.
A truly beautiful film. only people that have known real hardship will appreciate the beauty in this film.
Or pure Cinephiles.
Or both.
One of the greatest scenes in cinema history. Thank you Mr. Loach, you are an institution.
This film saved my life. When I watched it as a boy (Living in the North), I felt understood for the first time. I have nothing but the deepest respect for all involved in this film. A true masterpiece based on a wonderful novel (A kestrel for a knave)
What a great film. I first watched it in school 40 years ago...still a masterpiece
A film never to be surpassed, truly a masterclass and icon in cinematic history.
Fantastic film that stirred more than a few memories up in me, I can tell thee!!!
Billy Casper teaching lessons. It was beautiful in Hynes' book, then Loach's film. But kids who watch this and get it, they're our flyers.
Love this film I am Yorkshire born and bred and I love my Yorkshire accent I speak just like Casper
So am I 😊
Is the accent still as strong as in the film or is it more watered down these days? Hopefully, it won't be lost.
@@musicloverlondon6070 still very strong
tha knows!
@@musicloverlondon6070If anything the accent in the film is watered down a bit. In this scene Billy speaks with a genuine accent and manner of speech, but some of the other lads I’ve noticed don’t sound as natural.
there's a genius inside every child, they just need the chance to show it.
Billy is a smart kid but being constantly belittled and talked down to by his teaches as being a dunce and not going to amount to anything in life.
At home, he is constantly bullied by his elder brother Jud and his parents have written off as a nobody.
No wonder he mentally and emotionally switches off at school and doesn't have the interest to pay attention.
If you met a certain nephew of mine you really would take that comment back I'm not joking
@@oludotunjohnshowemimo434 Parent. His dad is absent.
Aye
This was filmed near to where I grew up. The author of A Kestrel for a Knave went to my school. He interviewed our class in 1978 whilst researching for Looks and Smiles. Billy was me when I was growing up.
Must be 20 years since I saw the film but this scene always stuck with me. I find it sadder than any of the tragic bit that follow. Something about the wee boys passion shining through all that oppressive misery. Nothing captures School of that time better.
The only film that has made me bawl like a baby.... great film!
Can't believe I have only just heard of this amazing film, just today!!!
A beautiful bitter sweet film and book
Colin Welland plays the role of school teacher absolutely spot on and David Bradleys acting is astounding given he had no previous experience....."Kes" was his first role. Ken Loach was interviewed on tv a few days ago and he said David (Billy Casper) struggled with remembering his lines but often ad libbed so naturally, Ken Loach left it in.
What a completely fucking beautiful scene this is
It's weird to hear this without Ricky laughing in the background.
Was you a camera man filming?
Absolutely beautiful, magnificent, heartbreaking, poetic and profound. Brilliance xx
I simply love the performance from the kid who plays the protagonist
This is beautiful! What a legend of a scene
A beautiful scene from a beautiful film.
Absolutely brilliant film a true classic 💯
Definitely is.. Time we're hard back then..
Makes me cry! 35 with 2 kids from the west midlands xxxx
This gets better with age if you take the time to watch it properly.
One of the finest British films made.
my favourite scene from the film.
thanks for posting!
hopdac good movie I like it .
SUPERB.
I love this movie and watched it on TH-cam regularly until they yanked it off, forcing me to buy the dvd (haven’t done it yet), all the actors were locals, the Yorkshire dialect was hard to understand but I understood most of it, all the performances were terrific, felt so bad for Billy, the only time he was ever happy is when he was with Kes, you can see how animated he is just talking about his passion. It’s a shame more people don’t know about this classic film.
I’m from Barnsley where this is filmed, I was born early 80’s and to this day, we still talk like this 😊
god, that was pure art, it was full of emotion
What struck me was the tension between institutions and freedom. The teacher bosses Billy in class but is under Billy’s authority in the field.
When Judd kills the bird we see it again. Money and institution clashing with something more beautiful.
The film reminds me of childhood, bizarre schools and the urge for freedom. For me it was punk and heavy metal that suggested a way out. This is an important and beautiful film.
Farthing were great to Billy in book. Pure relationship between the two, Farthing like the dad Billy lost, both only faintly aware of the connection at best. Lovely
Not like a film . Hard to appreciate they are actors . Just seems like a slice of life , a documentary even . Incredible film , incredible acting .
I like your film is the best in the world 🌎🌎
Best scene I've ever encountered in my whole life; includes: dreams, daily life and hallucinations.
I have ordered this on DVD I cannot wait till it comes through the post
We did this book when I was at school. The book is called "A Kestrel for a Knave" and it was by Barry Hines - though we still called it "Kes" because most of us had seen the movie. In the book the character of the kid is a lot more developed.
Masterpiece
Beautiful
the best haircuts I saw in a movie and great performances of course :)
Feel sorry for Billy Casper, constantly belittled and talked down to by his teaches as being stupid and won't ever amount to anything in his life and comes from a toxic home.
No wonder why he misbehaves most of the time and gets into mischief.
The kestrel was the only comfort in his life where he felt at ease and at peace.
I highly recommend reading the book "A Kestrel for a Knave" by Barry Hines on which the film was based. The story runs slightly differently to the film and is a great little book.
I was lucky to have Barry Hines come to our school for a talk about Kes back in the day, our teacher was from the Barnsley area and knew him, wonderful film and what a privalige it was to have the author of the original book come to speak in our class.
Kes and 400 Blows are the two masterpieces in cinema about growing up. If he never makes another film to equal the legend of Kes, David (Dai) Bradley should know that no actor with an ounce of sense would dare even dreaming of doing a remake. Kes is and will always be Bradleys film, whilst taking nothing away from the great Loach.
Other great films about kids include Pather Panchali, My Childhood (Bill Douglas), Spirit of the Beehive, Alice in the Cities...
Fully agreed. Kes and The 400 Blows are both masterpiece coming-of-age stories. Both are in the same rarefied company. I've yet to see an American film do this well. What we seem to get is adult nostalgia about growing up (Stand by Me), or lowest common denominator pandering (ET). But the the "real" experience of growing up, with all of its pain, confusion, ennui, energy and sorrow - is rarely seen, except in European films. I wish I knew the answer why.
To be fair, I feel like Todd Solondz, Gus van Sant, Noah Baumbach, Greta Gerwig and Richard Linklater -- to name a few -- have dealt with themes around growing up in the USA in a non-mawkish manner.
Ha that's my mother at 2.45 asking Billy a question lol
Where's your mam now?, really interested !
no way, really? :) x wow :) so cool.... hehe
That was so natural. It's ether your Mum being a very good actor or Loach knew *exactly* what he was doing. None of this scene feels forced or scripted.
@@judithfurmston3731 They used a lot of real pupils rather than young actors.
If you're still there, ( twelve years later), tell me something of her life history, would you: and say hello.
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Proper Yorkshire talk.. great film
Just over a minute and a half was cut from this scene. Who by and why I have no idea. The original version has not been seen in years. Thankfully, I have the missing bit from this scene in my collection. It should never have been cut.
Yes, I noticed that change as well, as they're showing this film currently on Channel 4. So frustrating when they cut scenes to pieces like that!
@@musicloverlondon6070 I have just uploaded the missing bit to TH-cam. It is from a betamax tape from when the film was shown uncut in the 1980's.
brilliant
This is probably my favourite scene of the whole film. The whole classroom including the teacher are hanging on Billy’s every word
C'mon Kes!!!!....c'mon las.
i never realized how much casper loved that bird 🦅
It's a joy to hear those rich Yorkshire accents that are sometimes difficult to understand. I think that's changing now & English regional accents are becoming homogenised or developing into ugly urban street slang like here in London.☹
Karl Pilkington brought me here.
How do you spell that?
D-i-l-k-i-n-g-t-o-n
The hawk that was used in the film actually belonged to captain Robert nairac the legendary guards captain murdered by the IRA who’s body was never found
Beautiful, and because its real. Billy isnt used to being centre of attention but overcomes his nerves to talk about a subject he knows about. Billys mates who give him a bad time normally are hanging on his every word.
Just a pity the " cut" part of this scene, where Tibbut asks Billy about birds mating ( and Billy turns the qeustion back on him superbly, even Colin Welland is in stitches) isnt in this.
Superbly done as is the rest of this film.
Look at Kes missing scene. If you can get the full version you will never go back. I cannot watch the dubbed watered down version. It is very rare and I think officially unavailable with the full length version of this scene it’s only a couple of mins but makes a difference. Look at Kes The Missing Scene on TH-cam. Also some versions have the voices dubbed by the original actors who do not speak that way. Yorkshire is a language as is Geordie etc.
This boy reminds me of me
This is filmed at my old secondary school that no longer exists now
Which school was it
My very first job cane tester everyday six of the best
S Q U O Z E
He did it again, he squoze me ‘ed
Craiiiig daaaavid
"It's when... 'e gets me 'ead, 'e puts one 'and on the back and one on the front, and then 'e sort of swivels it."
"Swivel, write that down."
I'm Doncaster . I have family in Barnsley . BARNSLEY FILM . only south Yorkshire truly get. Apart from Rotherham . There into young , but not birds .
KES THIS IN 1969
VERY GOOD
GREAT 10 OF 10
GEOFFREY REDDISH
STOCKPORT CHESHIRE
Well said mate. I was born in Reddish, live in Marple now.
Why they cut the scene out about does it lay eggs I don't know
@Netherhallmedia It's better than thee anyroad!!
better than the any ruard
Ist ein guter Film
If you can get the full length version. Thicker accent and this scene is longer and funnier.
Clever boy
Brilliant
megusta
4:55 and 5:15 for the win
Squoze - that’s a new word to me!
Remove the kestrel and that was my childhood.
ayyy
erghhh GCSE English Literature 1986!!! Got a "B"
Can't had. GCSE was not a thing until 1987.
Awesome film..but if anyone reads this comment please answer my question....The boy talking about the hawk...is this the same guy that starred in Aliens. I mean the 1st Film..older obviously....you the guy in the 1st Alien film where hes on hid back on the dinner table after eating what looked like noodles and a alien burst out of his chest and grew into a full adult alien and killed all the crew except Segorny weaver (cant spell her name)...so either that or he just looks the same but i think both films were early to mid 70's so actually maybe its not..
brooky bond No but it’s a good think as the two are similar and this was very perceptive of you. The guy in Alien is John Hurt, a famous actor. The young boy talking about the hawk is David Bradley, talking with a very broad Barnsley accent. If you you tube his name he doesn’t talk like that now. He’s very polite and softly spoken.
The PE teacher in Kes is Brian Glove who did star in the Alien movie.
Type in Kes football scene and you will see Brian Glover as the PE teacher wearing the red tracksuit. The football scene is hillarious.
I’m auditioning day after tomorrow for Billy. HELP HIW DO YOU DO THIS YORKSHIRE ACCENT?!
How'd it go?
@@Justanotherperson_01 got the role. Play then got cancelled due to covid.
a ray of hope....then they SNATCH it away
"enter the gladiators"
lol Mrs. Lomas's class at eddie
Karl Pilkington
😈😈😈😈😈😈
Squoze. New word to me.
Squoze
The great Ken Loach
Hoople Head I
Poetry seller Award winning Iranian short film. Tehran 2006
Afghan refugee boy sells poetry in a park, bringing joy and love to others and the woman protests against the forced headscarf.
پسر پناهنده افغان در پارکی شعر میفروشد و برای دیگران شادی و عشق می آوردو اعتراض زن به روسری اجباری
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