I wish Shabani was the leader of a bigger family. He is a very energetic gorilla and is perfect for controlling a large group. He is very attentive and usually reacts quickly.
It's such a shame that he hasn't fathered more children. I think if anything, Nene was too old and Ai too young when he was matched with them. Nene is the alpha female but obviously too old for the zoo to let her have any more children. Ai won't mate with Shabani, and that's likely because of Nene (look at Nene's behaviour towards Annie, no doubt thinking that she's competition for her boy Kiyomasa).
This might be a really weird comment but there's so many times where I wish Annie and Kiyo weren't related. From my perspective (which could be completely asinine), he's almost always concerned about her, seems to search her face to see if she's okay, he's gentle (most of the time) when they play and since they were little, Kiyo has always been a cuddle bug with her. I'm worried when they have to separate. And I love Ai's face when she plays. She squeezes her eyes and mouth shut, lightly beats her chest, claps and kind of moves her arms around. She does it the most with Annie. Thank you, JZ, for the video!❤❤❤
Kiyomasa è inutile che fai il furbo,tuo papà vede e capisce subito quello che hai in mente, ci prova con Annie e nello stesso tempo guarda se Shabani lo guarda. Quando Ai e Annie erano la in alto sembrava che Ai le dicesse " No non ci gioco con te, ti avevo detto di allontanarti da Kiyomasa quando ti tocca,e Annie le risponde" Ma mamma io voglio giocare ed avere solo un abbraccio,ma lui ne approfitta sempre " 😊 (Scherzo). Bella Nene 😘 tesoro mio!!! ❤️🍀❤️
Yes. They're at the age now where ideally they should be moving on, and having children of their own. I think that Shabani was only 10 years old when he joined Nene and Ai.
I don't know if he is ready for his own group. But he should be separated from his family group. Just like gentaro, they both need time to mature by themselves.
Seriously, this zoo should be making plans for the future. Do a worldwide search to find Shabani a wife while he is still young. Kiyomasa should be moved to a bachelor's pad. Annie is ready to be a good wife & mother.
@@maryharris2629 I agree. And not just shabani, but all the silverbacks in Japan need new females. Ai is the only young female in Japan, and she isn't working out. Unfortunately a lot of countries won't trade animals with Japan because they don't have any animal protection laws.
@bigboytoyz541 Yes, Twycross Zoo in England recently sent our beloved Lope to join a bachelor group in France. It had been noticed that he was increasingly spending time alone, so he was given his own enclosure for a while to prevent any conflict with his dad. After a period of quarantine he moved to France. Much as we miss him, we know it's best for him.
Big daddy is like that’s your sister!!! If she goes to gentro wonder how she’s going to react because you can tell she loves him and do they understand they are siblings?? Kiyo was waiting for big daddy to turn his head. You can tell they knew what they were doing wasn’t right!! I hope her and gentro will have a loving relationship!! 😊
@@stevemorris6790 as of right now, all they have stated is that there are no plans for gentaro to be paired up with annie. And that the two zoo's don't have any kind of agreement or exchange program with each other. They have only said that Kyoto has recently begun a trade agreement with Taipei zoo. And it is possible that gentaro could get one of the sisters, tyari or iriki. But they have said that it would be quite a while before that would happen, maybe 5+ year's. They have also said that chiba zoo, which owns gentaro, is going to be doing a renovation with a new gorilla enclosure. But that also is going to be years before it is completed. So in the mean time, I guess they are just going to keep everything the way it is, and probably work on training gentaro for separation with the new sub ground area.
@@TheFlashyWeasel "Under the agreement signed by Taipei Zoo Director Liu Shyh-fen and Kyoto Zoo Director Hidefusa Sakamoto, the world-renowned institutions will cooperate in the following waysWorld-renowned institutions will cooperate to advance breeding programs, public education, research and development, personnel training and exchanges on the care and preservation of gorillas." Source: Taiwan news 2021
There was something brewing up between Kiyomasa and Annie. They both did some sniffing and Kiyomasa actually did a finger poke n sniff. I dont Kno gorillas mating cycles but spring is just around the corner 😃🦍🦍
Gorillas are similar to humans. Usually every month, not just seasonal like some animals. However, they had said in the past that annie was on birth control. So it may affect that.
Kintaro pokes a finger in Genki and sniff when she stuffs her face between his legs but local gorilla experts claim it is a completely normal mother and son relationship. I guess we both read too much into that 😅
Shabani has a high crown of hair on the crest of his skull. He is actually a very handsome male. Sometimes he likes to joke, but this only strengthens the internal ties in the family.
Annie probably won't end up with gentaro. There are no plans for them. Kyoto zoo has a trade deal with Taipei zoo, where dejeeco is. They don't have anything setup with this zoo. So it is very unlikely that they will be put together. Plus gentaro needs to be separated from his family and have some time to mature. He is not ready for a female yet.
@@bigboytoyz541 Oh, so you're supposing what the other videographer stated as their OWN OPINION rather than straight-up facts? WHY would they bust up an established troop with 2 1 year old offspring to Kiyo or Gentaro? That would be so detrimental to the Djeeco troop. Let's wait and see instead of throwing conspiracy theories around-there's enough of that BS in the US as it is.
I saw an interesting video online showing the reaction of a male gorilla to the death of his old father. This male was angry with his dead father for not getting up. Alpha had to go with his family in search of another place with rich food. He was angry and sad. He was sad because he understood that he had to leave his immobile father for the sake of his family's survival. Gorillas actually have a big heart…
Los zoológicos de Japón tuvieron años para planear el futuro de sus gorilas, pero fueron lentos y perezosos Gentaro,Kiyomasa, Annie y las hijas de Haoko nacieron en fechas muy cercanas, desde ese momento debieron empezar a planificar su futuro, afortunadamente Genki es una gorila mayor y que no piensa en aparearse con Gentaro por eso en familia de Momotaro no ha hecho incesto. ¿No les da vergüenza a los administradores?
I agree, they have failed all of these young gorillas. They had more than enough time to plan. But the only reason that genki doesn't mate with gentaro is because she is scared to death of him. But she did try to mate with him back in December on his birthday.
@@bigboytoyz541você não tem provas do que está escrevendo, é sempre escreve essa porcaria imunda para chamar atenção, você necessita ser notado, desagradável, sua mente é imunda, Genki nunca pretendeu acasalar com Gentaro, você espalha delírios de uma mente perturbada por todos os canais possíveis, esqueci Genki, já está ficando bizarro essa obsessão, que asco!!!!!!!!
Kiyo needs a woman he's definitely at that age and before something goes terribly wrong it's time for him to move on. Shabani will definitely kill or hurt Kiyo if he touches any of those ladies in a disrespectful way. None of us want to see any harm come to this amazing family ❤❤
The sad thing is, kyomasa is at the age where him and shabani are going to start fighting. But the zoo doesn't care, they just wait until it gets bad , then they will do something.
a @paulagola2307-gorillas don't attack and kill.pls don't state facts that are not true.even in the wild silverbacks may fight for territory and hurt the other but they don't kill.and this is a controlled area where the keepers are watching.thank you for listening.
@@bigboytoyz541, Kiyo is younger than Gentaro therefore Shabani has almost twice weight on him . Kiyo with his mother back tried to fight Shabani but couldn’t and now seems that he won’t try at least now.!
I wish Shabani was the leader of a bigger family.
He is a very energetic gorilla and is perfect for controlling a large group.
He is very attentive and usually reacts quickly.
It's such a shame that he hasn't fathered more children. I think if anything, Nene was too old and Ai too young when he was matched with them. Nene is the alpha female but obviously too old for the zoo to let her have any more children. Ai won't mate with Shabani, and that's likely because of Nene (look at Nene's behaviour towards Annie, no doubt thinking that she's competition for her boy Kiyomasa).
@@brownrabbit61, I agree with you.!
Shabani needs more children.😊
Yeah, they were just playing. But shabani knew what it was going to lead to, that is why he stepped in.
Shabani ever alert to his children. Great silverback leader and beautiful family .Love you Nene
Nene was in a playful mood today awwwwwww, that’s my grumpy old ladybug.😂❤
I could watch them play all day long 🥰
Good morning to the Shabani group
This might be a really weird comment but there's so many times where I wish Annie and Kiyo weren't related. From my perspective (which could be completely asinine), he's almost always concerned about her, seems to search her face to see if she's okay, he's gentle (most of the time) when they play and since they were little, Kiyo has always been a cuddle bug with her. I'm worried when they have to separate.
And I love Ai's face when she plays. She squeezes her eyes and mouth shut, lightly beats her chest, claps and kind of moves her arms around. She does it the most with Annie. Thank you, JZ, for the video!❤❤❤
Yes, Annie and Kiyo have lots of chemistry together.😊
Look at my handsome Shabani everything about him is beautiful!! ❤❤ The love he has for his family is priceless ❤❤ One of a kind our Shabani family ❤
I agree!
Very well said! I just love watching him.❤
Ich liebe shabani er ist ein guter Father ❤und ein guter Gruppen führer❤
Kiyomasa è inutile che fai il furbo,tuo papà vede e capisce subito quello che hai in mente, ci prova con Annie e nello stesso tempo guarda se Shabani lo guarda. Quando Ai e Annie erano la in alto sembrava che Ai le dicesse " No non ci gioco con te, ti avevo detto di allontanarti da Kiyomasa quando ti tocca,e Annie le risponde" Ma mamma io voglio giocare ed avere solo un abbraccio,ma lui ne approfitta sempre " 😊 (Scherzo). Bella Nene 😘 tesoro mio!!! ❤️🍀❤️
They love to be up high.👏❤️🇺🇸
If dad wasn't there Kiyo would give it a try no doubt
Yes. They're at the age now where ideally they should be moving on, and having children of their own. I think that Shabani was only 10 years old when he joined Nene and Ai.
Kiyo needs his own group. It is time.
I don't know if he is ready for his own group. But he should be separated from his family group. Just like gentaro, they both need time to mature by themselves.
Seriously, this zoo should be making plans for the future. Do a worldwide search to find Shabani a wife while he is still young. Kiyomasa should be moved to a bachelor's pad. Annie is ready to be a good wife & mother.
@@maryharris2629 I agree. And not just shabani, but all the silverbacks in Japan need new females. Ai is the only young female in Japan, and she isn't working out. Unfortunately a lot of countries won't trade animals with Japan because they don't have any animal protection laws.
@bigboytoyz541 Yes, Twycross Zoo in England recently sent our beloved Lope to join a bachelor group in France. It had been noticed that he was increasingly spending time alone, so he was given his own enclosure for a while to prevent any conflict with his dad. After a period of quarantine he moved to France. Much as we miss him, we know it's best for him.
@@brownrabbit61 yeah, I was wondering how he was doing. I have watched their group off and on for a while. Lope got big really fast.
Big daddy is like that’s your sister!!! If she goes to gentro wonder how she’s going to react because you can tell she loves him and do they understand they are siblings?? Kiyo was waiting for big daddy to turn his head. You can tell they knew what they were doing wasn’t right!! I hope her and gentro will have a loving relationship!! 😊
I don't think you will see annie with gentaro. Unfortunately they have different plans.
@@bigboytoyz541, what are the plans??
@@stevemorris6790 as of right now, all they have stated is that there are no plans for gentaro to be paired up with annie. And that the two zoo's don't have any kind of agreement or exchange program with each other. They have only said that Kyoto has recently begun a trade agreement with Taipei zoo. And it is possible that gentaro could get one of the sisters, tyari or iriki. But they have said that it would be quite a while before that would happen, maybe 5+ year's. They have also said that chiba zoo, which owns gentaro, is going to be doing a renovation with a new gorilla enclosure. But that also is going to be years before it is completed. So in the mean time, I guess they are just going to keep everything the way it is, and probably work on training gentaro for separation with the new sub ground area.
@@bigboytoyz541 Source?
@@TheFlashyWeasel "Under the agreement signed by Taipei Zoo Director Liu Shyh-fen and Kyoto Zoo Director Hidefusa Sakamoto, the world-renowned institutions will cooperate in the following waysWorld-renowned institutions will cooperate to advance breeding programs, public education, research and development, personnel training and exchanges on the care and preservation of gorillas."
Source: Taiwan news 2021
Playing? Is that what they call it 🤔
He's a good dad❤❤❤
Я обычно так "счастливо играю" со своей женой😂
Sí, sí, JUGANDO...😂😂
There was something brewing up between Kiyomasa and Annie. They both did some sniffing and Kiyomasa actually did a finger poke n sniff. I dont Kno gorillas mating cycles but spring is just around the corner 😃🦍🦍
Gorillas are similar to humans. Usually every month, not just seasonal like some animals. However, they had said in the past that annie was on birth control. So it may affect that.
Kintaro pokes a finger in Genki and sniff when she stuffs her face between his legs but local gorilla experts claim it is a completely normal mother and son relationship. I guess we both read too much into that 😅
Shabani has a high crown of hair on the crest of his skull. He is actually a very handsome male. Sometimes he likes to joke, but this only strengthens the internal ties in the family.
When will the move be for Annie and gentro?! Wonder if shanbanni might go into a slight depression when his daughter leaves??
That's what I'm really worried about. Annie is Shabani's world and I can't imagine how he'll react once they relocate her.
Oh most definitely that's his princess ❤
Annie probably won't end up with gentaro. There are no plans for them. Kyoto zoo has a trade deal with Taipei zoo, where dejeeco is. They don't have anything setup with this zoo. So it is very unlikely that they will be put together. Plus gentaro needs to be separated from his family and have some time to mature. He is not ready for a female yet.
@@bigboytoyz541 Oh, so you're supposing what the other videographer stated as their OWN OPINION rather than straight-up facts? WHY would they bust up an established troop with 2 1 year old offspring to Kiyo or Gentaro? That would be so detrimental to the Djeeco troop. Let's wait and see instead of throwing conspiracy theories around-there's enough of that BS in the US as it is.
@@bigboytoyz541Also, I *think* Gentarou is owned by Chiba Zoo so they surely have an interest in his future.
Poor nene I really feel sorry and sad for her
I saw an interesting video online showing the reaction of a male gorilla to the death of his old father. This male was angry with his dead father for not getting up. Alpha had to go with his family in search of another place with rich food. He was angry and sad. He was sad because he understood that he had to leave his immobile father for the sake of his family's survival. Gorillas actually have a big heart…
Thank you for the Indonesian translation.
Los zoológicos de Japón tuvieron años para planear el futuro de sus gorilas, pero fueron lentos y perezosos Gentaro,Kiyomasa, Annie y las hijas de Haoko nacieron en fechas muy cercanas, desde ese momento debieron empezar a planificar su futuro, afortunadamente Genki es una gorila mayor y que no piensa en aparearse con Gentaro por eso en familia de Momotaro no ha hecho incesto. ¿No les da vergüenza a los administradores?
I agree, they have failed all of these young gorillas. They had more than enough time to plan. But the only reason that genki doesn't mate with gentaro is because she is scared to death of him. But she did try to mate with him back in December on his birthday.
@@bigboytoyz541 I agree on part of your statement only. They had tons of time to work something out.
@@bigboytoyz541você não tem provas do que está escrevendo, é sempre escreve essa porcaria imunda para chamar atenção, você necessita ser notado, desagradável, sua mente é imunda, Genki nunca pretendeu acasalar com Gentaro, você espalha delírios de uma mente perturbada por todos os canais possíveis, esqueci Genki, já está ficando bizarro essa obsessão, que asco!!!!!!!!
@@bigboytoyz541 keep in mind, these vids are heavily censored
@@joe_668 I know. You can find these groups on a lot of side channels and see a lot of things that these main videographers try to hide.
Kiyo needs a woman he's definitely at that age and before something goes terribly wrong it's time for him to move on. Shabani will definitely kill or hurt Kiyo if he touches any of those ladies in a disrespectful way. None of us want to see any harm come to this amazing family ❤❤
The sad thing is, kyomasa is at the age where him and shabani are going to start fighting. But the zoo doesn't care, they just wait until it gets bad , then they will do something.
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@paulagola2307-gorillas don't attack and kill.pls don't state facts that are not true.even in the wild silverbacks may fight for territory and hurt the other but they don't kill.and this is a controlled area where the keepers are watching.thank you for listening.
@@bigboytoyz541, Kiyo is younger than Gentaro therefore Shabani has almost twice weight on him . Kiyo with his mother back tried to fight Shabani but couldn’t and now seems that he won’t try at least now.!
@@stevemorris6790 yeah, kyomasa is a little over a year younger than gentaro. That's why things haven't gotten as bad as momo and gentaro.
@@stevemorris6790 sorry Steve, I was wrong. Kyomasa is right around a year younger than gentaro. Kyo was born in nov, gentaro dec. But a year apart.
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お年頃の子供がいると、シャバーニも大変ですね😅
Kiyo either needs a girlfriend or move to Kentucky
Kiyo needs a girlfriend or wife.😊😊😊
Игры не шуточные. И не простые.