Almost all car reviewers consider performance to be the "holy grail" in car design but most car buyers consider reliability / cost of operation the most important consideration. That's why Toyota has become the number one vehicle manufacturer in the world.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 LOL! I have a 1987 Buick GN with 160k and it runs great. If turbos were not reliable there wouldn't be so many made. And that Corolla is nowhere near as nice as the Civic or the Mazda 3.
@@wolford171 turbos bring carbon build up in the engine. Mechanics talk about this alot. Easy maintainence on this is to run in on a 60mph+ road for an hour every at least once a month but not many people know this. Common sense though, more parts to compensate for more power and less gas mileage is just a set up for failure in long term reliabily
I pick Toyota because parts are much simpler, cheaper and stronger than Honda. I had both cars and because of that, I became a loyal customer to Toyota for the rest of my life. Toyota and Lexus are the best. Thanks for the informative video.
Touota honda lexus and acura are the best but dont act like toyota aint had problems infact both honda and toyota are both the most reliable cars and as far as stronger parts thats a lie they both have strong parts
I just dumped my 17’ Corolla for a new civic, it’s just so much better, turbo makes driving not so boring, and the handling is just so sublime. Cars last an average of over 11 years now, sure if you want your car to last over 20 years buy a Corolla, but I’m willing to bet the civic will last me 10 years no problem turbo or not. Honda knows how to make an engine, nobody makes more engines than them.
@@kishonkarmaker2112 Not sure if that trim is a Hybrid, but you can check on the Toyota website if a hybrid is available for XSE. Toyota makes outstanding hybrid vehicle and also have great long warranty for the hybrid battery.
Amazing review, I would also go for a Corolla, those cars are so reliable you change them beacause they look old not beacause they give you any problem
I'm a 10 year owner of a 2012 Honda Civic with 255K miles!! So I would say the same for Civic. My plan is to pass it to a family member that asked for it. No problems at all.
Very good and unbiased review 👍🏻 In 2020 I was in the market for a new daily driver (already have a fun fast car for weekends) and the Corolla and Civic were both at the top of my list for affordable reliable compact sedans. After testing driving both models in both hatch and sedan body styles i ended up deciding on a 2020 Honda Civic Sport Sedan. I wanted reliability so I wanted the bulletproof K20C2 Naturally aspirated port injected engine. I was VERY lucky to find the sport sedan with a 6 speed manual transmission (very rare) as well. The sport trim came with retuned shocks, bigger sway bars, 18 inch wheels, different steering rack tune, and different control arms. Handling is excellent compared to the base model LX and I still got the ultra reliable and rare 2.0 NA +6MT combo. I knew the Corolla would be ultra reliable as well, but the driving dynamics and driver feel were far better to me in the Honda Civic. The other reasons I chose it over the Corolla was rear seat room for passengers and the exterior styling I preferred the Civic. I was not a fan of the civic hatch styling in 2020, it was to goofy looking to me but the sport sedan looked great. Both of these cars are great choices for anyone wanting reliable cars, just stay away from the 1.5T direct injected engine if you buy the Honda and get the 2.0 NA engine. I’d also advise getting a manual gearbox over a CVT on both cars for long term reliability, but the 6MT is only available on the new Civics in the hatchback body style as he stated in the video 👍🏻
I have a 2019 Civic. Love it. I have to say that I prefer the 2019 design to this conservative design in 2022. I've been contacted by the dealer to see if they could purchase my 2019 if they could get me a good deal on a 2022. The 2019 also has a cupholder in the back by pulling down the center of the seat which the 2022 doesn't have (which is great for my kid). With only 17,000 km, I don't think I'll be switching.
My 2016 Civic Touring sedan just hit 76,000 miles and has been issue free. It's my daily driver for my nearly 70 mile round trip highway work commute so its driven fairly aggressively (70-75 mph). I love it.
Such a great no nonsense review without the annoying background music, flashy editing, biases, corny jokes, or droning on about quirky features or how many candy bars can fit in the side door panel. Thank you!
Resl no nonsense review .Actually comprehensively covered two cars in the time it takes some to cover one.No silly utterances or unrelated documentaries.
I actually get an average of 57 mpg in my 2021 Corolla Hybrid which, given current gas prices in the U.S. right now, feels good. It also has a higher reliability score by Consumer Reports. Its sportier design appeals to me more than the Civic’s. My previous car was the 1999 Honda Accord, with 372,546 miles.
I recently got a 2022 civic hatchback with the 2.0L and although it’s a base model LX it’s got everything I’d realistically want, and the main selling point for me over the Corolla or Mazda 3 was the extra rear seat and cargo space, but no matter which car I chose I would have gotten the hatchback version
I would probably love the Civic. There's no denying that the car was made to impress with its great build quality and reliability. But I consider myself a Toyota guy. I currently drive a 2010 Corolla with 127,000 miles
Great video! Didn't help mom make a choice because she whittled the list down to these two cars! LOL She's walking around the house with a picture of both!
I'm with you with the Corolla being slightly better. I ended up going with the Corolla SE But I still see the Honda Civic as a solid commuter car. I just like how the Corolla SE sits a little lower and sportier, while also having that angular design. You can't go wrong with that naturally aspirated Toyota reliability either.
OMGOODNESS Mark, that is awesome! My son is a real estate appraiser, drives over 20k miles per year mostly metropolitan stop and go. Drives a loaded (lots of bells and whistles) Honda Insight, averaging 55 MPG city. Never taken it on a road trip, he has a seven passenger SUV family rig for road trips. Let me know when you are ready to sell the Corolla..
Almost all car reviewers consider performance to be the "holy grail" in car design but most car buyers consider reliability / cost of operation the most important consideration. That's why Toyota has become the number one vehicle manufacturer in the world. That being said I like Honda's a lot too.
I'm a owner of a Toyota Corolla SE 6 MT 2020 and i love it. As much as I love the look of the civic, the Toyota engine and transmission is what appealed to me. ✌️
Love this review. So fair and neutral. I ended up going with the corolla.. biggest bang for your buck for sure. Also.. I'm not sure how I feel about the new Honda exterior :/ love the interior though
I would always choose the normally aspirated engine over the small 1.5 liter turbo in the Honda. Turbo engines cost more to repair & will never last as long as normally aspirated engines. That fact alone would make me choose Toyota.
I went with a 22 Civic Sport and I couldn't be happier! Unfortunately totaled my 15 Civic LX a few months back and was considering a 22 Insight Touring. Went with the Sport bc it was 7k less and felt like the safer choice as far as resell value and maintenance over its lifetime. My fiance has a 15 Corolla and it has held up so well thus far, so I was deciding between the 2 for a while. In my mind you really can't go wrong, its all just personal preference. Great video!
@@1stMarine well I would be happy with either of them, but I think the civic is the best because of the room and remote start/ push button start, new interior and dash look great.Both of mine are the trim above the base models sport and SC so upper trims maybe more equal.But Out of those you definitely get more with the Honda. But I like the screen in the Toyota and Interface better and it’s definitely got more power. But still I think the Honda is the better car.
Corolla is my choice I had a 2006 Corolla with 356,000 miles an sold it within 2 days. I now ordered a 2022 Corolla LE... I also have a Rav 4 which I love.
Thanks for bringing up the oil dilution history and potential turbo issues. It’s not a guarantee but for greater reliability stick to the naturally aspirated engine. Very unbiased review!
I don't know in Canada but in united states Toyota have better incentives and offers than Honda, while you can buy a Corolla for 18K or Camry for 24k a civic is selling for 23k. So if we speak in basic/standard versions, for the price a Corolla isn't a fair comparison for the civic because the price is more close to the Camry! And obviously Camry wins!
Never buy Turbo. I have a 2021 Corolla sedan and I get 42 mpg on the HWY. My only complaint is road noise. The Corolla is less expensive than the Civic. I paid $18,500 plus tax for mine Edmark Toyota in Idaho.
This dude is amazing! His videos are amazing! His knowledge of cars is amazing. His overuse of the word ‘amazing’ is amazing. Simply amazing. I do like the amazing content, however.
The permanant solution for oil dilution didn't come from Honda. The main problem with the 1.5t engine was that it was introduced too early. If it was introduced after the introduction of a new oil called GF6, then dilutiongate would've been averted. I also think that not having VTEC sorta contributed to dilutiongate. Earlier versions of the engine had no VTEC; later versions have exhaust VTEC, which will seem to spread to all 1.5ts in the future, like the 6th gen CRV and maybe a future version of the Acura CDX
I'd have to drive both, but my choice, based on this and other videos, would be the Civic, with the non-turbo engine. I recently sold my 2015 BMW X1, which had a turbo 4 cylinder engine with direct injection. I sold it because direct injection turbo engines can be a maintenance nightmare when they get older. The non-turbo engine is noticeable slower, but in the long run it's the wise choice when it comes to maintenance repairs.
I was originally bothered that Honda Civic Sport was missing the turbo engine but I didn’t think about the maintenance on that thing long term. You definitely gave me something to think about. Thanks!
Did the dealership ever give you the "we don't repair turbos, we only replace them" and then proceed to quote you a replacement price higher than the market value of the whole car itself?
I have a 93 Honda Accord that has 440,000 original engine miles on it and still rolling on down the road like nobody else's business. But I am actually thinking of purchasing a 2022 Toyota Corolla this time.
I got the 2022 Honda Civic Sport in Canada with tons more features than the US one.. I got the cross traffic alert too :) Also blind spot monitoring, heated side view mirrors, heated front seats and heated steering wheel.
Civic all the way ....own a 2018 Executive 6MT, 4dr sedan (Touring in the US&Can) with the 1.5 Turbo, just turned 31000 km, much less driving in EU vs Canada where I'm from. I will also not be switching at least until the mid-model face lift in 2-3 years, don't want to part with my manual
Great review, thanks. So I went out to my local dealers to buy either a 2022 Civic EX or Corolla SE. It was a tough choice. Ended up with the Corolla, and the main reason why was because in my area (Idaho), there are no Civics available, and the dealers don't know when they will ever see any. As far as the Corolla goes, while they had none on the lots here, there were several that were only a week or so away from being delivered. Also, the Toyota incentives were a little better. My new Corolla shows up next week!
I was set on the corolla because I have always loved Toyota, I have 2004 corolla and about to buy a new 2022 car. Having watched a few videos I like the interior of the Honda and how spacious it is. Hmm I dunno, I will check them both at the lot. Enjoy your new car!
Same here. And the civic was marked up from MSRP. Whereas the corrolla was priced at MSRP. No dealer markup bs. So went with the corrolla better value for money.
I got my ‘22 Civic for the same reason. By the way for those who want to buy the new Civic or any Honda, financing is only offered under Honda Financial Service since this car came out.
I have owned two Toyota Corolla's. A 1987 Corolla FX-16 and a 2000 Corolla CE... I miss my 5 SPEED TRANSMISSION on my FX-16... BUT, now my Corolla CE... It was my Late Mother's Car. With very little mileage. Now my car. What 😳 an AWESOME CAR!!!
Can't really go wrong with either one. Even the Mazda 3 is a great choice. It all comes down to personal preference. Young car buyers have such great options these days. Unlike us older folks when we were young we didn't have such great options. I would personally go with the corrolla SE over the civic. To me the corrolla has a slight edge. But if u can wait the Corrolla GR is coming out with 300 horses!
I was so impressed by this video, Shari, that I had to hit that subscribe and like button! Corolla SE/XSE has a CVT with a physical first gear, which will give you better off the line acceleration than the Civic and should also make the CVT more reliable. This along with the more powerful naturally aspirated dual injected engine in the Corolla, is why I choose Corolla over Civic.
id go with the mazda 3 more engine options and a 6 speed auto or manual transmission. Also mazda has a partnership with toyota. Mazda also way more comfortable specially compared to the corolla.
@YourTypical Asian Civic is faster than the Corolla because of the turbo but that turbo also makes it unreliable and causes oil dilution according to Scotty Kilmer. So no thanks to the Civic.
I’d opt for the Corolla Hybrid because of fuel price and Toyota will last longer and costs less to keep. Toyota vehicles have the lowest cost of maintenance among all auto brands, moreover Toyota dealers network is superior to Honda or any other brands including domestic. Insurance & spare parts are also cheaper if it’s a Toyota.
I've researched it and if you plan on keeping the car "till the wheels fall off" hybrids are not the most cost-efficient or even the most green. If you factor in the battery's life span and carbon footprint a 40+mpg gas car that you can keep running 200k+ miles is better. Significantly lower repair and maintenance cost the more miles you put on.
I had the Civic 2016 with the 1.5 turbo ..Kept it until I hit 185,000 miles .. no engine issues but the AC stopped working at around 80,000 miles.. would have kept it for longer but did not trust the turbo.. traded it in for $7500.. bought it for $22,000.. I bought the Toyota Corolla SE hatchback.. Liking it more with the CVT and first gear launch.. Toyota Sencing is also great..
I have a 2016 Honda Civic too. The a/c stopped working after 4 years. There was a recall with something in the a/c. Got that fixed, but there was something else wrong with it. Had to fight tooth and nail for them to cover it under the additional warranty I purchased. I'm never purchasing additional car warranty ever again.
I drove both cars last week. I am going to buy the civic sport. The civic is bigger, better looking and more fun to drive. I love to drive and the Corolla is just boring. Probably Toyota is better than Honda, but I have a lot fun driving the civic sport.
The upper-trim Corolla looks fantastic for a compact car. Every time I see one in person it makes me notice in a good way. And I'm someone who drives Corvette's and big trucks. The one down side with the Corolla is performance is a bit sub-par for the class. That's typical for Toyota though. Rock solid reliability but old tech and lower overall performance.
I too drive a Corvette and agree .. the Corolla SE and XSE look so very much "premium" when you see it out on the road. Almost like a baby Lexus in design. I am begging my daughter to buy a new top end Corolla .. but she is talking about a freaking ugly Elantra! ... I am furious 🤬
@@kevinbreese5739 The korean brands have horrible reliability... always on recalls and hearing about issues. Been hearing folks say" well they're almost as good as Toyota and Hondas " for years now and it's just not true.
Hands down 2022 Civic sport with 2.0 l regular motor due to the fact that I have the 2018 crv with the 1.5 turbo, and every time I change the oil I smell strong gas odor in the oil, and due to a class action lawsuit Honda only gave 1 year more warranty only on certain parts of the car which was very wrong. The only reason I would consider the civic is the fact that they offer the 2.0 motor. I mainly have had Toyota all my life until I bought the 2014 accord with a regular motor which was a beautiful car until my wife got totaled in an accident. Would have seen a grown man cry.
The 1st gear is probably a patented design from Aisin, which is partly owned by Toyota. Honda would need to buy the idea from Aisin and that may drive up the cost.
Well the 20RFE engine in the Corolla goes back to at least 1953 as a 1100cc then in 1983 became a 2L in the Camry. It began life as a marine bilge pump engine so dependability was a must. The transaxle goes back to the 1983 Camry from Assin as Toyota's first in-house designed and built automatic transaxle and it's proven durability and life is legendary. Honda's are great cars, but the car with the most miles on it still on the road is a 1974 1/2 Toyota Corolla Hatchback SR-5 on it's FOURTH generation (GREAT-GRAND DAUGHTER is driving it to college with 5.5 MILLION all original miles on all parts, been on TV and magazine ads) it's light metallic blue first model with the flat hatch 1.8L 5 speed. Bit more room in the Toyota too. Neither's a bad choice.
To put it simply: there are Honda byers and Toyota byers. These are usually very faithful to either car manufacturer for different reasons. Honda byers look for a good interior and more sporty performance. Toyota byers look for easy use and reliabily.
I purchased and drove to Honda civics and I like them both. Very reliable I recently bought a late model used Corolla and I like it too. I think that the 2.0 engine on the Honda is better than the turbo version so I would get that. I like the current Corolla, but I think Honda was smarter with their redesign by slightly tweaking the body and integrating a lift back hatchback that I think has better utility than the Corolla sedan. In the end I think either would be a good choice. Both would provide years of trouble-free driving
I just purchased a 2023 Toyota Corolla , it's definitely a step up on the 2022 Corolla. As the 2.0 engine is now standard and the infotainment system has been upgraded.
Was In The market between these two and ultimately went with the 2022 civic in sport trim. What made the difference was rear seats leg room and the remote start for hot/cold days. Having kids on hot/cold days you can have the car prepped with the right temp. And the car seats were a little snug in the Corolla.
That remote start could be your car's downfall. Allowing a turbocharged, GDI motor to idle frequently is a recipe for extreme carbon fouling and possibly, (time will tell) oil dilution. I just hope for your sake that you can regularly make some highway runs at WOT.
@@taichiforever5712 I specifically got the civic in sports trim, and that trim only comes with the N/A 2.0 liter. No turbos. Just a basic little engine.
I'd go the practical route and get the Corolla Hybrid. With gas prices around $1.70/l in Vancouver, a hybrid is a must. I do like the interior of the Civic but can see the honeycomb dash being a major dust collector.
The only problem with hybrid systems, even from Toyota, is the fact that the systems are problematic and not as reliable as they age. And they're pricier to fix. Lots of old (4-7 year old) hybrid highlanders out there where the hybrid system just doesn't work properly anymore.
@@Mo.Jo. I beg to differ with your statement. I am on my second Toyota hybrid car now and no problems at all. My first one was a Toyota Prius-C Hybrid with over 130,000 miles on it without any troubles with it. The bottom line is that you must keep up on your regular services on it and research on how to drive it correctly to get the best MPG with it. I have a few friends who still have their Toyota hybrid cars with well over 250,000 miles on it with the same battery pack!
@@Mo.Jo. Strange. I have only heard and experienced the opposite. Toyota hybrids have been very reliable. But I guess you can always find a few lemons out there with any brand.
I really love my Corolla Hybrid. I figure though to get my money back in gas savings I will need to put about 150,000 miles on it. This shouldn't be a problem to do in 5 months I've put over 15,000 miles on it. I'm not even looking at the resale value of it if I was to sell it off early. I'm very fascinated with the technology that Toyota uses with there hybrid systems and everything I find says is Toyota has refined the system to be very good quality.
I have recently ordered a 2022 Corolla touring GR sport + with the 2.0 hybrid... easy choice... I have owned a auris touring hybrig for 6 1/2 years... all I had to change on it for the years and 12100 Mil (metric) was left break light bulb... that is reliability for you.....
Is Honda direct injection engine ? If so, it will have carbon engine issues? Toyota has 2 injectors per cylinder, one port one direct so no carbon issues. When you review a car, you have to talk about these things, not just usual stuff anybody can find easily on the internet
The days of Corolla being the ugly stepsister of the Civic are long gone. I'm not loving the redesigned exterior of the Civic. Not by a long shot. If all bells and whistles add up on both and there's a sizable monetary difference with Corolla being much cheaper, then I'd def go for the 2.0L Corolla. And yes, I'd happily live with that decision for years. The resale value for both certainly won't be an issue. The gap between both has def been closed.
I recently bought the Civic Touring, and I live in the open country outside of an urban town. It’s all high-speed open roads out here, and I feel like a kid in a candy shop. Then I can take it into town to pick up some gas and a chicken sandwich. Good times.
Shari I do have a 16yrs old Corolla and I love it still going strong and less maintenance.Love the pump up seat for height,the only trouble is the seat upholstery is bad i have a rip when the car was twelve yrs old luckily it’s the back seat.Upholstery wasn’t done right.My next car would be a Corolla if i get one made in Japan is better than North America.
To be fair, I haven’t even test driven a Civic, but I just bought a new Corolla. Price was huge for me, plus I love the design and the way it drives. After test driving it I knew it was the right choice
Thanks for an excellent review. I too agree re choosing a car with a Turbo or a NA engine. I would go with the NA engine. They are built to last forever when properly taken care of. However, the Turbo in both these car are so well made these days, it'll probably last as long too. My wife drives a 2007 Acura RDX SUV since new. It's 16 years old now with around 175,000 km and never once had a problem with the engine or Turbo. I'm looking to get a Corolla within the year. Why not the Civic? Well, I quite like the looks better.
I got 297,000 km or 180,000 miles on my corolla a true work horse. I’m going to keep it as winter car next year and get me the 2023 corolla next summer.
My 2005 matrix has 299500km lol and still going and also got 2020 corolla LE with only 17400km lol... I use the matrix to feel those shifts and also carrying heavy items.
Hi and I am looking for a low end cheap model like the Honda LX or Toyota Corrolla LE but LOVE to get what we can't have in Japan is the Toyota Corolla GR with auto! My bf who does heavy travling test drove the 2022 Corolla GR and he said its a rocket so silghtly slower then the Supra Turbo. If both cars won't work I may go for a mini or small SUV or CUV!
I prefer Honda but honestly they both are great choices. Both last long both resale great both are extremely safe both have great milage. I have hip problems so I need a bit more space which the Honda provides. Bottom line treat them right and they'll last you a lifetime
Almost all car reviewers consider performance to be the "holy grail" in car design but most car buyers consider reliability / cost of operation the most important consideration. That's why Toyota has become the number one vehicle manufacturer in the world.
Yup, that's precisely why I chose my new 22 Corolla and love it
No faith in the 1.5 turbo? I hear good things about honda as well. Why toyota over honda?
@@wolford171 Well... Turbo's are not reliable. A Civic is a good car that has a turbo. A Corolla is a good car that does not have a turbo.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 LOL! I have a 1987 Buick GN with 160k and it runs great. If turbos were not reliable there wouldn't be so many made. And that Corolla is nowhere near as nice as the Civic or the Mazda 3.
@@wolford171 turbos bring carbon build up in the engine. Mechanics talk about this alot. Easy maintainence on this is to run in on a 60mph+ road for an hour every at least once a month but not many people know this.
Common sense though, more parts to compensate for more power and less gas mileage is just a set up for failure in long term reliabily
This is what they call a TRUE UNBIASED REVIEW
Honda civic. Better design, better interior. Better gas mpg. Better sales experience. I'll never go back into a Toyota dealership, they too deceiving.
I pick Toyota because parts are much simpler, cheaper and stronger than Honda. I had both cars and because of that, I became a loyal customer to Toyota for the rest of my life. Toyota and Lexus are the best. Thanks for the informative video.
Touota honda lexus and acura are the best but dont act like toyota aint had problems infact both honda and toyota are both the most reliable cars and as far as stronger parts thats a lie they both have strong parts
I purchased a Toyota Corolla 2021 . Have been asked many times why didn't I get a Honda Civic . Corolla's are a little cheaper
Idk about the new corollas, but the old ones were just amazing. One of the best first cars ever
I just dumped my 17’ Corolla for a new civic, it’s just so much better, turbo makes driving not so boring, and the handling is just so sublime. Cars last an average of over 11 years now, sure if you want your car to last over 20 years buy a Corolla, but I’m willing to bet the civic will last me 10 years no problem turbo or not. Honda knows how to make an engine, nobody makes more engines than them.
I definitely would choose the 2022 Corolla SE sedan with 6MT.
2021 Forte GT is the best for value. Both Civic and Corolla are overpriced.
@@crow_2k11beatsbydre8 Kia is garbage. Toyota, and Honda will outlast that Forte.
@@thundergato84 Maybe 10-15 yrs ago KIA/Hyundai weren't reliable vehicles, but not anymore. Keep Living in the past.
Corolla XSE is it hybrid or non-hybrid?
@@kishonkarmaker2112 Not sure if that trim is a Hybrid, but you can check on the Toyota website if a hybrid is available for XSE. Toyota makes outstanding hybrid vehicle and also have great long warranty for the hybrid battery.
Amazing review, I would also go for a Corolla, those cars are so reliable you change them beacause they look old not beacause they give you any problem
I have a 2020 Corolla, great car. The interior design looks identical on the 2022, the headlights look upgraded.
The Honda Civic is minutely more expensive with an average annual repairs total of $368 Vs the Toyota Corolla’s $362.
I'm a 10 year owner of a 2012 Honda Civic with 255K miles!! So I would say the same for Civic. My plan is to pass it to a family member that asked for it. No problems at all.
@@Dolomite1
Based on my experience (3 Corollas driven up to 130k miles) that's fake news:
There are *NO* repair costs for Corolla owners...
@@standoutpunching2936 there better be. If you aren't changing oil and brake pads, you have problems.
Total factual review. RARE! And awesome!
Thank you!
Very good and unbiased review 👍🏻
In 2020 I was in the market for a new daily driver (already have a fun fast car for weekends) and the Corolla and Civic were both at the top of my list for affordable reliable compact sedans.
After testing driving both models in both hatch and sedan body styles i ended up deciding on a 2020 Honda Civic Sport Sedan.
I wanted reliability so I wanted the bulletproof K20C2 Naturally aspirated port injected engine. I was VERY lucky to find the sport sedan with a 6 speed manual transmission (very rare) as well. The sport trim came with retuned shocks, bigger sway bars, 18 inch wheels, different steering rack tune, and different control arms. Handling is excellent compared to the base model LX and I still got the ultra reliable and rare 2.0 NA +6MT combo.
I knew the Corolla would be ultra reliable as well, but the driving dynamics and driver feel were far better to me in the Honda Civic. The other reasons I chose it over the Corolla was rear seat room for passengers and the exterior styling I preferred the Civic. I was not a fan of the civic hatch styling in 2020, it was to goofy looking to me but the sport sedan looked great.
Both of these cars are great choices for anyone wanting reliable cars, just stay away from the 1.5T direct injected engine if you buy the Honda and get the 2.0 NA engine.
I’d also advise getting a manual gearbox over a CVT on both cars for long term reliability, but the 6MT is only available on the new Civics in the hatchback body style as he stated in the video 👍🏻
I have a 2019 Civic. Love it. I have to say that I prefer the 2019 design to this conservative design in 2022. I've been contacted by the dealer to see if they could purchase my 2019 if they could get me a good deal on a 2022. The 2019 also has a cupholder in the back by pulling down the center of the seat which the 2022 doesn't have (which is great for my kid). With only 17,000 km, I don't think I'll be switching.
2022 has cup holders in the back lol
Mine is 2018. Good solid CiviC
My 2016 Civic Touring sedan just hit 76,000 miles and has been issue free. It's my daily driver for my nearly 70 mile round trip highway work commute so its driven fairly aggressively (70-75 mph). I love it.
Such a great no nonsense review without the annoying background music, flashy editing, biases, corny jokes, or droning on about quirky features or how many candy bars can fit in the side door panel. Thank you!
I knew there had to be somebody else, regarding the candy bars and how many fit in the side door panel. Can't stand that stupid remark.
Thank you! The no nonsense style is my fav
Sick of the candy bars in the side panel reviews also!
Resl no nonsense review .Actually comprehensively covered two cars in the time it takes some to cover one.No silly utterances or unrelated documentaries.
I actually get an average of 57 mpg in my 2021 Corolla Hybrid which, given current gas prices in the U.S. right now, feels good. It also has a higher reliability score by Consumer Reports. Its sportier design appeals to me more than the Civic’s. My previous car was the 1999 Honda Accord, with 372,546 miles.
interesting that you outdo their official #'s by 3-5mpg
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 My Sienna Hybrid, rated at 36, exceeds that rating routinely.
@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 it varies by the road you travel and how you drive
@@good-tn9sr hence why i said interesting.
My crv underachieves bc i drive hills a lot
The Corolla still looks like a sleek compact car at least. The Civic has grown blocky, bloated & oversized for a compact.
I recently got a 2022 civic hatchback with the 2.0L and although it’s a base model LX it’s got everything I’d realistically want, and the main selling point for me over the Corolla or Mazda 3 was the extra rear seat and cargo space, but no matter which car I chose I would have gotten the hatchback version
how does the power and acceleration feel? does 158hp feel sluggish sometimes?
@kaivamannam5636 in sport mode it's not bad
I would probably love the Civic. There's no denying that the car was made to impress with its great build quality and reliability. But I consider myself a Toyota guy. I currently drive a 2010 Corolla with 127,000 miles
I’m also driving a 2010 Toyota Corolla with 325,000 miles and still running strong 💪🏽
I’m Team Honda but Much Respect to Toyota. I don’t hate I appreciate.
127k miles is a low mileage for that car
@@henryfung4056 i drive a 13' corolla and its got 97
Great video! Didn't help mom make a choice because she whittled the list down to these two cars! LOL She's walking around the house with a picture of both!
I'm with you with the Corolla being slightly better. I ended up going with the Corolla SE But I still see the Honda Civic as a solid commuter car. I just like how the Corolla SE sits a little lower and sportier, while also having that angular design. You can't go wrong with that naturally aspirated Toyota reliability either.
I bought a 2021 Toyota Corolla Hybrid LE and I love it. Honda can't touch the great fuel economy I get with it.
Mark, what is your MPG average on your Hybrid Corolla?
@@chester4311 I am currently averaging 63-86 mph in the city. 61 mph in the highway.
Of course, coz You bought a hybrid corolla. How smart you are comparing fuel economy to a corolla hybrid vs non hybrid honda civic. Stupido
@@jmmartian6139 Haters are always going to hate.
OMGOODNESS Mark, that is awesome! My son is a real estate appraiser, drives over 20k miles per year mostly metropolitan stop and go. Drives a loaded (lots of bells and whistles) Honda Insight, averaging 55 MPG city. Never taken it on a road trip, he has a seven passenger SUV family rig for road trips. Let me know when you are ready to sell the Corolla..
Almost all car reviewers consider performance to be the "holy grail" in car design but most car buyers consider reliability / cost of operation the most important consideration. That's why Toyota has become the number one vehicle manufacturer in the world. That being said I like Honda's a lot too.
I'm a owner of a Toyota Corolla SE 6 MT 2020 and i love it. As much as I love the look of the civic, the Toyota engine and transmission is what appealed to me. ✌️
What makes the toyota engine and transmission so specially appealing to your eyes and to your wallet?
Love this review. So fair and neutral. I ended up going with the corolla.. biggest bang for your buck for sure. Also.. I'm not sure how I feel about the new Honda exterior :/ love the interior though
I would always choose the normally aspirated engine over the small 1.5 liter turbo in the Honda. Turbo engines cost more to repair & will never last as long as normally aspirated engines. That fact alone would make me choose Toyota.
me too
But Honda offers a NA 2022 civic to
I went with a 22 Civic Sport and I couldn't be happier! Unfortunately totaled my 15 Civic LX a few months back and was considering a 22 Insight Touring. Went with the Sport bc it was 7k less and felt like the safer choice as far as resell value and maintenance over its lifetime. My fiance has a 15 Corolla and it has held up so well thus far, so I was deciding between the 2 for a while. In my mind you really can't go wrong, its all just personal preference. Great video!
Well I love both of them I bought a 2022 Civic sport for myself and a 2022 corolla SC for my wife
Now that you've had both cars, which is the best?
@@1stMarine well I would be happy with either of them, but I think the civic is the best because of the room and remote start/ push button start, new interior and dash look great.Both of mine are the trim above the base models sport and SC so upper trims maybe more equal.But Out of those you definitely get more with the Honda. But I like the screen in the Toyota and Interface better and it’s definitely got more power. But still I think the Honda is the better car.
@@bigmike1552 Thanks Mike for your thoughtful comments ❤️
@@bigmike1552 good to know. I’ve been torn between the two but leaning towards the civic.
@@bigmike1552 did you mean Corolla SE? I’m supersized your Corolla is not a push button start if it’s not the base model.
The history of gas mixing into the oil with the Honda.5L turbo would kill that option for me.
I just bought a new Corolla SE "Nightshade" edition, trust me it has way more than enough "technology" to suit me!
Corolla is my choice
I had a 2006 Corolla with 356,000 miles an sold it within 2 days.
I now ordered a 2022 Corolla LE...
I also have a Rav 4 which I love.
How is the Corolla treating you? Having a hard time deciding bc I don’t know about the infotainment system…
@@MarshForLow Running great, with great gas milage. I bought the Corolla LE for $21,500.
U.S. ARMY COMBAT MEDIC I’m assuming that’s the push start? Why Corolla ?
Thanks for bringing up the oil dilution history and potential turbo issues. It’s not a guarantee but for greater reliability stick to the naturally aspirated engine. Very unbiased review!
I was told oil dilution is a issue in the cold temperature climates.. Is that true..
I don't know in Canada but in united states Toyota have better incentives and offers than Honda, while you can buy a Corolla for 18K or Camry for 24k a civic is selling for 23k. So if we speak in basic/standard versions, for the price a Corolla isn't a fair comparison for the civic because the price is more close to the Camry! And obviously Camry wins!
Never buy Turbo. I have a 2021 Corolla sedan and I get 42 mpg on the HWY. My only complaint is road noise. The Corolla is less expensive than the Civic. I paid $18,500 plus tax for mine Edmark Toyota in Idaho.
If you want better mpg, drop them tires to 16 inch
This dude is amazing! His videos are amazing! His knowledge of cars is amazing. His overuse of the word ‘amazing’ is amazing. Simply amazing. I do like the amazing content, however.
I've always had Toyota Camry, Highlander and now looking for a small car in the 2022 Corolla. Love Toyota!
Honda could have called that an Accord and I would be perfectly happy with it...somehow it is just a little too big to be called a "Civic."
The permanant solution for oil dilution didn't come from Honda. The main problem with the 1.5t engine was that it was introduced too early. If it was introduced after the introduction of a new oil called GF6, then dilutiongate would've been averted. I also think that not having VTEC sorta contributed to dilutiongate. Earlier versions of the engine had no VTEC; later versions have exhaust VTEC, which will seem to spread to all 1.5ts in the future, like the 6th gen CRV and maybe a future version of the Acura CDX
Changing the oil type is a bandage to a design flaw, let’s say it like it is, they messed up big time ! People should be crazy to buy one
I'd have to drive both, but my choice, based on this and other videos, would be the Civic, with the non-turbo engine. I recently sold my 2015 BMW X1, which had a turbo 4 cylinder engine with direct injection. I sold it because direct injection turbo engines can be a maintenance nightmare when they get older.
The non-turbo engine is noticeable slower, but in the long run it's the wise choice when it comes to maintenance repairs.
How much older? Before the turbos start giving problems?
I was originally bothered that Honda Civic Sport was missing the turbo engine but I didn’t think about the maintenance on that thing long term. You definitely gave me something to think about. Thanks!
That’s exactly why I got the Sport non-turbo. It’s only a little slower, and if I wanted to go fast, I wouldn’t buy a Civic.
I had a 1.5t civic and traded it in at 150k km with no issues.
Did the dealership ever give you the "we don't repair turbos, we only replace them" and then proceed to quote you a replacement price higher than the market value of the whole car itself?
They are pretty equal. I always found Hondas more enjoyable to drive. Question of taste but I like fun and zippy.
I have a 93 Honda Accord that has 440,000 original engine miles on it and still rolling on down the road like nobody else's business. But I am actually thinking of purchasing a 2022 Toyota Corolla this time.
Toyota Corolla for sure…
He answered all my questions. Good video.
Ground clearance is so important in canadian winter so the answer is honda
I got the 2022 Honda Civic Sport in Canada with tons more features than the US one.. I got the cross traffic alert too :) Also blind spot monitoring, heated side view mirrors, heated front seats and heated steering wheel.
How is the seat comfort for tall person ?
@@watchmanexpert don't know how tall you are but I'm 5'7 and I have no issues. Seat height is adjusted manually.
I would pick the Corolla due to proven reliability
GREAT presentation of the 2 cars ! Very helpful !
Thank you for your very clear comparison.
I just booked a civic 2022 for myself but a week ago I had a rental Toyota car and I was impressed by the smooth drive it was offering.
I love to watch...toyota camry 2022 vs hunda accord 2022 plz do it 😀
Civic all the way ....own a 2018 Executive 6MT, 4dr sedan (Touring in the US&Can) with the 1.5 Turbo, just turned 31000 km, much less driving in EU vs Canada where I'm from. I will also not be switching at least until the mid-model face lift in 2-3 years, don't want to part with my manual
Great review, thanks.
So I went out to my local dealers to buy either a 2022 Civic EX or Corolla SE. It was a tough choice. Ended up with the Corolla, and the main reason why was because in my area (Idaho), there are no Civics available, and the dealers don't know when they will ever see any. As far as the Corolla goes, while they had none on the lots here, there were several that were only a week or so away from being delivered. Also, the Toyota incentives were a little better. My new Corolla shows up next week!
I was set on the corolla because I have always loved Toyota, I have 2004 corolla and about to buy a new 2022 car. Having watched a few videos I like the interior of the Honda and how spacious it is. Hmm I dunno, I will check them both at the lot. Enjoy your new car!
@@smurfylee Get the honda
Same here. And the civic was marked up from MSRP. Whereas the corrolla was priced at MSRP. No dealer markup bs. So went with the corrolla better value for money.
I ordered a 2022 Civic Touring March 06 2022 and I am still waiting to get it.
I wanted the corolla first but Honda gave me a much better deal. So I bought the Honda Civic...
Willing to share out door price?
You made the correct choice. Civic much nicer.
I got my ‘22 Civic for the same reason. By the way for those who want to buy the new Civic or any Honda, financing is only offered under Honda Financial Service since this car came out.
@@ricksays7133 Credit Union?
That’s crazy! It was the other way around for me lol
I have owned two Toyota Corolla's. A 1987 Corolla FX-16 and a 2000 Corolla CE...
I miss my 5 SPEED TRANSMISSION on my FX-16...
BUT, now my Corolla CE... It was my Late Mother's Car. With very little mileage. Now my car. What 😳 an AWESOME CAR!!!
Can't really go wrong with either one. Even the Mazda 3 is a great choice. It all comes down to personal preference. Young car buyers have such great options these days. Unlike us older folks when we were young we didn't have such great options.
I would personally go with the corrolla SE over the civic. To me the corrolla has a slight edge. But if u can wait the Corrolla GR is coming out with 300 horses!
I was so impressed by this video, Shari, that I had to hit that subscribe and like button! Corolla SE/XSE has a CVT with a physical first gear, which will give you better off the line acceleration than the Civic and should also make the CVT more reliable. This along with the more powerful naturally aspirated dual injected engine in the Corolla, is why I choose Corolla over Civic.
Thank you very much! And great choice!
id go with the mazda 3 more engine options and a 6 speed auto or manual transmission. Also mazda has a partnership with toyota. Mazda also way more comfortable specially compared to the corolla.
@@fahmidnd2 I'm looking at a Mazda3 hatchback. It has 186HP, and no CVT. Neither Toyota or Honda have those features.
@YourTypical Asian Civic is faster than the Corolla because of the turbo but that turbo also makes it unreliable and causes oil dilution according to Scotty Kilmer. So no thanks to the Civic.
@YourTypical Asian We'll see in about 5 years which has a chance at being more reliable. I'll take a Toyota any time. Absolutely no turbo.
I’d opt for the Corolla Hybrid because of fuel price and Toyota will last longer and costs less to keep. Toyota vehicles have the lowest cost of maintenance among all auto brands, moreover Toyota dealers network is superior to Honda or any other brands including domestic. Insurance & spare parts are also cheaper if it’s a Toyota.
Wrong , when I take my Toyota Corolla for oil change at the dealership is like $60 and for my Honda is like $54 and my Honda is newer
I've researched it and if you plan on keeping the car "till the wheels fall off" hybrids are not the most cost-efficient or even the most green. If you factor in the battery's life span and carbon footprint a 40+mpg gas car that you can keep running 200k+ miles is better. Significantly lower repair and maintenance cost the more miles you put on.
@@brolyassasin8354 not much difference.
I had the Civic 2016 with the 1.5 turbo ..Kept it until I hit 185,000 miles .. no engine issues but the AC stopped working at around 80,000 miles.. would have kept it for longer but did not trust the turbo.. traded it in for $7500.. bought it for $22,000.. I bought the Toyota Corolla SE hatchback.. Liking it more with the CVT and first gear launch.. Toyota Sencing is also great..
I have a 2016 Honda Civic too. The a/c stopped working after 4 years. There was a recall with something in the a/c. Got that fixed, but there was something else wrong with it. Had to fight tooth and nail for them to cover it under the additional warranty I purchased. I'm never purchasing additional car warranty ever again.
I drove both cars last week. I am going to buy the civic sport. The civic is bigger, better looking and more fun to drive. I love to drive and the Corolla is just boring. Probably Toyota is better than Honda, but I have a lot fun driving the civic sport.
The upper-trim Corolla looks fantastic for a compact car. Every time I see one in person it makes me notice in a good way. And I'm someone who drives Corvette's and big trucks. The one down side with the Corolla is performance is a bit sub-par for the class. That's typical for Toyota though. Rock solid reliability but old tech and lower overall performance.
I too drive a Corvette and agree .. the Corolla SE and XSE look so very much "premium" when you see it out on the road. Almost like a baby Lexus in design. I am begging my daughter to buy a new top end Corolla .. but she is talking about a freaking ugly Elantra! ... I am furious 🤬
@@Stew5166 I agree, and I'm also not a fan of the new elantra and sonata, mostly because of their front ends.
@@kevinbreese5739 The korean brands have horrible reliability... always on recalls and hearing about issues. Been hearing folks say" well they're almost as good as Toyota and Hondas " for years now and it's just not true.
They're very nice, I have the se upgrade
Hands down 2022 Civic sport with 2.0 l regular motor due to the fact that I have the 2018 crv with the 1.5 turbo, and every time I change the oil I smell strong gas odor in the oil, and due to a class action lawsuit Honda only gave 1 year more warranty only on certain parts of the car which was very wrong. The only reason I would consider the civic is the fact that they offer the 2.0 motor.
I mainly have had Toyota all my life until I bought the 2014 accord with a regular motor which was a beautiful car until my wife got totaled in an accident. Would have seen a grown man cry.
Why doesn’t Honda do a 1st physical gear as well? That darn lag off the line from the CVT in the Honda is a nuisance.
The 1st gear is probably a patented design from Aisin, which is partly owned by Toyota. Honda would need to buy the idea from Aisin and that may drive up the cost.
Well the 20RFE engine in the Corolla goes back to at least 1953 as a 1100cc then in 1983 became a 2L in the Camry. It began life as a marine bilge pump engine so dependability was a must. The transaxle goes back to the 1983 Camry from Assin as Toyota's first in-house designed and built automatic transaxle and it's proven durability and life is legendary. Honda's are great cars, but the car with the most miles on it still on the road is a 1974 1/2 Toyota Corolla Hatchback SR-5 on it's FOURTH generation (GREAT-GRAND DAUGHTER is driving it to college with 5.5 MILLION all original miles on all parts, been on TV and magazine ads) it's light metallic blue first model with the flat hatch 1.8L 5 speed. Bit more room in the Toyota too. Neither's a bad choice.
which is the best reliable CVT transmission?
which one has less road noise?
Based on several reviews - the Corolla.
@@downandup2012 thank you
Loved the video. Would of loved to see the Mazda 3 in this comparison video.Hopefullt you could make one in the near future.
Very good, truthful review.
To put it simply: there are Honda byers and Toyota byers. These are usually very faithful to either car manufacturer for different reasons. Honda byers look for a good interior and more sporty performance. Toyota byers look for easy use and reliabily.
Well done with no bias!
I like your presentation. You speak very clearly.
Thank you!
I purchased and drove to Honda civics and I like them both.
Very reliable
I recently bought a late model used Corolla and I like it too.
I think that the 2.0 engine on the Honda is better than the turbo version so I would get that.
I like the current Corolla, but I think Honda was smarter with their redesign by slightly tweaking the body and integrating a lift back hatchback that I think has better utility than the Corolla sedan.
In the end I think either would be a good choice. Both would provide years of trouble-free driving
They all look new and shiny in the showroom. The proof of reliability is in the real-life pudding. Toyota wins in that regard.
If you get either the Corolla or the Civic then get the hatchback versions and get a manual transmission. Much more fun to drive and better looking!
lol I literally had to buy a new car to be automatic manual is not fun with one leg. All previous cars stick so I know what you mean.
never have liked automatic transmission.. only manuals
I just purchased a 2023 Toyota Corolla , it's definitely a step up on the 2022 Corolla. As the 2.0 engine is now standard and the infotainment system has been upgraded.
Was In The market between these two and ultimately went with the 2022 civic in sport trim. What made the difference was rear seats leg room and the remote start for hot/cold days. Having kids on hot/cold days you can have the car prepped with the right temp. And the car seats were a little snug in the Corolla.
That remote start could be your car's downfall. Allowing a turbocharged, GDI motor to idle frequently is a recipe for extreme carbon fouling and possibly, (time will tell) oil dilution. I just hope for your sake that you can regularly make some highway runs at WOT.
@@taichiforever5712 I specifically got the civic in sports trim, and that trim only comes with the N/A 2.0 liter. No turbos. Just a basic little engine.
My preference is the Honda Civic for roominess, do agree both are great cars.
I'd go the practical route and get the Corolla Hybrid. With gas prices around $1.70/l in Vancouver, a hybrid is a must. I do like the interior of the Civic but can see the honeycomb dash being a major dust collector.
Smart choice. I bought one myself.
The only problem with hybrid systems, even from Toyota, is the fact that the systems are problematic and not as reliable as they age. And they're pricier to fix. Lots of old (4-7 year old) hybrid highlanders out there where the hybrid system just doesn't work properly anymore.
@@Mo.Jo. I beg to differ with your statement. I am on my second Toyota hybrid car now and no problems at all. My first one was a Toyota Prius-C Hybrid with over 130,000 miles on it without any troubles with it. The bottom line is that you must keep up on your regular services on it and research on how to drive it correctly to get the best MPG with it. I have a few friends who still have their Toyota hybrid cars with well over 250,000 miles on it with the same battery pack!
@@Mo.Jo. Strange. I have only heard and experienced the opposite. Toyota hybrids have been very reliable. But I guess you can always find a few lemons out there with any brand.
I really love my Corolla Hybrid. I figure though to get my money back in gas savings I will need to put about 150,000 miles on it. This shouldn't be a problem to do in 5 months I've put over 15,000 miles on it. I'm not even looking at the resale value of it if I was to sell it off early. I'm very fascinated with the technology that Toyota uses with there hybrid systems and everything I find says is Toyota has refined the system to be very good quality.
Good vid dude.
They finally fixed the light in the back of the civic, but now the front looks terrible, but the Corolla looks great all over.
good review, straight to the points. I like the CIvic style and interior but lean toward the engine reliability with the corolla .
2022 Corolla Hatchback for me!
Please do a comparison between toyota camry and honda accord 2022
Nicely explained reliability in long term of ownership!
Excellent video Bro!!
I have recently ordered a 2022 Corolla touring GR sport + with the 2.0 hybrid... easy choice... I have owned a auris touring hybrig for 6 1/2 years... all I had to change on it for the years and 12100 Mil (metric) was left break light bulb... that is reliability for you.....
Yea thank you a just have my 2022 Corolla SE. loved .
Excellent video.
Great high quality video, thank you.
Great review as always. Thanks
I bought 2022 Toyota corolla hybrid. You can save more money from the GAS and Maintenance. Battery and break pads can lastnul to 100k miles
over the entire life of a car hybrids cost more to own and operate than gas naturally aspirated 40+mpg car
My mom has a 2020 Corolla literally the perfect car
Is Honda direct injection engine ? If so, it will have carbon engine issues? Toyota has 2 injectors per cylinder, one port one direct so no carbon issues. When you review a car, you have to talk about these things, not just usual stuff anybody can find easily on the internet
The days of Corolla being the ugly stepsister of the Civic are long gone.
I'm not loving the redesigned exterior of the Civic. Not by a long shot.
If all bells and whistles add up on both and there's a sizable monetary difference with Corolla being much cheaper, then I'd def go for the 2.0L Corolla.
And yes, I'd happily live with that decision for years.
The resale value for both certainly won't be an issue.
The gap between both has def been closed.
I recently bought the Civic Touring, and I live in the open country outside of an urban town. It’s all high-speed open roads out here, and I feel like a kid in a candy shop. Then I can take it into town to pick up some gas and a chicken sandwich. Good times.
Shari I do have a 16yrs old Corolla and I love it still going strong and less maintenance.Love the pump up seat for height,the only trouble is the seat upholstery is bad i have a rip when the car was twelve yrs old luckily it’s the back seat.Upholstery wasn’t done right.My next car would be a Corolla if i get one made in Japan is better than North America.
I think you forgot to bring up the No Lumbar Support even on the TOURING trim.
Does the Corolla have lumbar?
To be fair, I haven’t even test driven a Civic, but I just bought a new Corolla. Price was huge for me, plus I love the design and the way it drives. After test driving it I knew it was the right choice
Thanks for an excellent review. I too agree re choosing a car with a Turbo or a NA engine. I would go with the NA engine. They are built to last forever when properly taken care of. However, the Turbo in both these car are so well made these days, it'll probably last as long too. My wife drives a 2007 Acura RDX SUV since new. It's 16 years old now with around 175,000 km and never once had a problem with the engine or Turbo. I'm looking to get a Corolla within the year. Why not the Civic? Well, I quite like the looks better.
What about the Corolla cross??
I got 297,000 km or 180,000 miles on my corolla a true work horse. I’m going to keep it as winter car next year and get me the 2023 corolla next summer.
My 2005 matrix has 299500km lol and still going and also got 2020 corolla LE with only 17400km lol... I use the matrix to feel those shifts and also carrying heavy items.
Both great cars. Can't go wrong either way.
I am waiting to pickup the 2022 Corolla Hatchback Hybrid 2.0L 184HP, GR Sport Bi-tone. It is being built in Derbyshire UK right now.
Hi and I am looking for a low end cheap model like the Honda LX or Toyota Corrolla LE but LOVE to get what we can't have in Japan is the Toyota Corolla GR with auto! My bf who does heavy travling test drove the 2022 Corolla GR and he said its a rocket so silghtly slower then the Supra Turbo. If both cars won't work I may go for a mini or small SUV or CUV!
The Civic is great, but I think it has lost it's "cheap" car status. It used to start around $18K for the base model, now it starts at $24K
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I prefer Honda but honestly they both are great choices. Both last long both resale great both are extremely safe both have great milage. I have hip problems so I need a bit more space which the Honda provides. Bottom line treat them right and they'll last you a lifetime