Beginner Go Series E4: Ladders and Nets

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  • @eac-ox2ly
    @eac-ox2ly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    These are definitely the best beginner tutorials I've found on TH-cam

  • @Laezar1
    @Laezar1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That last part was so useful and I feel that's what I've been missing from a lot of beginners guide that left me having no clue what I'm doing! I understood the concept of shapes and ladders and nets but I didn't understand that the reason some shape work is that they lead into those naturally, maybe I'll be able to better understand what I'm doing now if I look at it thinking "I could try that shape but will the ladder work if they cut?"
    I'm not very good at intuitively visualizing those stuff I need to understand on an intellectual level what I'm doing and most things I've seen teaching go tell you to just play to get an intuitive understanding but that really doesn't work for me, at least not until I understand it and know what to look for.
    So yeah, extremely useful stuff, I'll try playing again thinking about that

  • @InSente
    @InSente  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank you SO much for supporting this video! If you enjoyed these tutorials, be sure to place a stone on that SUBSCRIBE button for more Go content - it helps you learn AND supports the channel! Thanks so much for your support! If you want access to my private discord server for only a few dollars a month, 1 on 1 instruction, or a host of other rewards, please consider supporting my patreon! www.patreon.com/insente

  • @guyfromostrava
    @guyfromostrava 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Started "playing" GO after the AlphaGo documentary. This is giving me so much cool information and concepts. Thanks for this series!

    • @sj03r6
      @sj03r6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mwhahaha same here, just popped up😂😂

    • @keynotes840
      @keynotes840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here

    • @LaurentLaborde
      @LaurentLaborde 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep, same as you

    • @jonahmiller3551
      @jonahmiller3551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same! Very happy I stumbled across that documentary...

    • @chessx6847
      @chessx6847 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

  • @mynameisearlb
    @mynameisearlb ปีที่แล้ว

    Just started playing Go about 3 days ago after seeing them playing it in the newer One Piece show. I already had heard of it but I looked up a couple videos and found you!
    After your mention of Hikaru No Go, I'm now about 6 episodes in and can't get enough!
    I've only been able to win a few matches online, but I can beat AI now at the two lowest difficulty levels and am feeling pretty good about it.
    Thank you for your videos, and all the info!

  • @kronkwarburton2562
    @kronkwarburton2562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like a tapestry, being revealed one thread at a time. Loving this beginner series, Friend. Watch a video, play a few games and apply it. Watch the next one and, rinse and repeat. It's starting to come together. Much appreciation for putting these videos out and sharing your passion for the Game with us. Can't recommend these highly enough for anyone feeling as overwhelmed as I was starting out.

  • @SouthfieldRunner
    @SouthfieldRunner 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is an excellent video, packed with more information I can actually use in my games than the 50 pages I've consumed in beginner go books so far. Thanks for preparing this!

  • @exel001
    @exel001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it is funny that i played very similar game at my childhood, it was played on checkered sheet, almost all rules of go are applied to that game but with some special cases. for example, you may capture enemy points if you have closed chain (neighboring points including diagonal neighbors) surrounding them, even if they has liberties. this chain was drawn with solid line and can never be crossed :) game were quite large-scale, it may occupy full sheet and it is about 30 x 40 points

  • @dpend
    @dpend 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally some good beginner content! Everything else I found was too vague, abstract and frustratingly not applicable in actual games (at least for a beginner.) I feel like I can actually improve now with this content.

  • @alchemywow2010
    @alchemywow2010 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey! I've been lost going around in circles as a novice Go player for a while now, and watching your Beginner's series has totally helped crack open a wall for me!

  • @lernenjedentag
    @lernenjedentag 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for your videos! You started just about the perfect time for me, shortly before I almost gave up looking for good Go beginner tutorials. Keep up the good work!

    • @InSente
      @InSente  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Philip Dürholt that's awesome! Welcome to go, and thanks for the comment! :D

  • @pokerchannel6991
    @pokerchannel6991 ปีที่แล้ว

    i played 2 recent games where I made sure I had good shapes that were more connected, such as using the bamboo joint, and the movement shapes that ensure I stay connected, such as the Knight, the big Knight, the 1 gap, 2 gap shapes. And I won those games.

  • @Latinocr
    @Latinocr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are awesome. Best Go tutorials in TH-cam hands down.

  • @phantomcruizer
    @phantomcruizer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video showing tactics by using large and small knights move with ladders and nets.

  • @DarkaFire
    @DarkaFire 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just working my way through your lessons, they are very helpful - thank you.

  • @garyjonathanjanis
    @garyjonathanjanis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hello! I am an absolute beginner, and I'm so happy that I found your lessons. It's obvious that you have been playing for a long time and really do know the game; however, and it just might be me, but you do go through your example moves extremely fast and I get lost :-( Also, thank you for mentioning the book "Lessons in the Fundamentals of Go," which I just ordered. I do hope it helps. I'll keep attending your school - you are cool baby!

  • @emperorthebest477
    @emperorthebest477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stay connected. Keep on keeping on.

  • @TheLockon00
    @TheLockon00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This series is very helpful. Thank you.

  • @rwharrington87
    @rwharrington87 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate the videos my dude.

  • @vitalydmtrysvidler8023
    @vitalydmtrysvidler8023 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The net is kind of similar to chess when you put the king in a mating net so there is no chance to escape.

  • @Dennis-xs9cn
    @Dennis-xs9cn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    really excellent and useful tutorials thank you

  • @BovinaSancta79
    @BovinaSancta79 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the book "Go A Complete Introduction to the Game" which I found quite good, but I find watching videos like these more enjoyable. You seem like a pretty natural teacher too! I tried watching another guys beginner Go video, but his structure and way of speaking wasn't good at all. So kudos to you!

  • @ericanderson9735
    @ericanderson9735 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every time I look at you I think about the twins on +dudeperfect

  • @editbalazs349
    @editbalazs349 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like your clear explanations :) Keep uploading vids :)

  • @MrKinPimpin
    @MrKinPimpin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you do a great job with these videos thanks

  • @TaxicletteSan
    @TaxicletteSan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have to count a ladder out to see if you run into other stones? Can't you just follow the diagonals (the ones making up the borders and one diagonal next to it)?

  • @ramirphoto
    @ramirphoto 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    what's the anime that you were talking about that's based on this game? I wanna watch it!

    • @InSente
      @InSente  7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hikaru No Go, it's great!

  • @ZweiSpeedruns
    @ZweiSpeedruns 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If you get caught in a ladder, why play it out to the edge instead of playing somewhere else productive and not letting your opponent get as much captured?

    • @InSente
      @InSente  8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      oh, you definitely shouldn't play it out if you know you are caught haha, I was just demonstrating the concept.

    • @BovinaSancta79
      @BovinaSancta79 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think the only time a person would play it out is if they haven't realized they are in one until it's too late.

    • @panavsingh9834
      @panavsingh9834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because like Kageyama mentioned in his book, if you lead the ladder to somewhere else, it may branch into various variations, and plus sometimes both the players keep building long walls, and that's silly and frustrating and defintely counter-productive.

  • @wtfbluestrife
    @wtfbluestrife 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    13:42 Just learning the game, but based on what I've learned so far can't you turn that net into a ladder to the bottom right when it starts to fail.

  • @DrFlox
    @DrFlox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If anyone needs some motivation to start playing Go: Watch the documentary "The Surrounding Game" its really good.

    • @30803080308030803081
      @30803080308030803081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      DrFlox I just watched this.
      I was struck by how much pressure is on the American players to live a normal life instead of specializing in Go. Andy Liu could have been a good professional player, but there was too much pressure to have a normal job.
      Go has a valued place in the culture in East Asia. The best players are professionals who have specialized in the game from a young age. There were several Korean professionals in the documentary who looked proud to be among the world’s best Go players. Go has enough prestige in Korean society, that someone can be happy to dedicate his life to the game.
      Go lacks that kind of prestige in America. A young American might enjoy playing Go and be quite good at the game. But to pursue a professional career in Go seems like a childish pursuit. So, he will go back to school, get a normal education and normal job, and only be an amateur Go player.
      Americans are proud of our football, basketball, and baseball. But, games of the mind don’t receive respect in our culture. Even chess is seen as just a hobby, and that’s the most prestigious one. Go will never be taken seriously in American culture, so young Americans will not be motivated to take the game seriously themselves.

    • @DrFlox
      @DrFlox 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@30803080308030803081 True as long as its a fringe sport, you can't attract sponsors and make a living. Hopefully this will change as the game gains popularity.
      But even so, in the west you can't really force a 5 year old kid to study one game 10 hours a day... Thats probably also why we have so few chess masters, while russia has a very different culture about it.

  • @in9597
    @in9597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can u say what's program it is ? Is there anything for unix?

    • @eac-ox2ly
      @eac-ox2ly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know which one he's using, but online-go.com/ has a "demo mode" that has all the functions that the program he's using seems to have, and it runs in your browser, so of course it'll work on unix.

  • @josesequeira7160
    @josesequeira7160 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I been told that how the beginning game unfolds it determines if you win or lose. how true is this?

  • @TheDavidlloydjones
    @TheDavidlloydjones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Without further ado let's get started" occurs at 2:03.
    What follows is more ado. Naturally.
    He gets started after the animation.

  • @adamcole742
    @adamcole742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    are these tutorials for chinese or japanese go rules wondering for choosing games on ogs

    • @boghag
      @boghag ปีที่แล้ว

      Chinese and japanese go rules mostly differ in scoring at the end of the game (and even then they almost always score the same). These tutorials are for both.

  • @artistevivien
    @artistevivien 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok this is already too advanced for me. I’m too right-brained for this lol

  • @LaurentLaborde
    @LaurentLaborde 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    at this point i still don't undertsand "territories", counting, and winning. i get the move but not the endgame strategy

  • @monicarosebloom5057
    @monicarosebloom5057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played on a 5x5 on level 0 and I still lost ;-;

  • @somniad
    @somniad 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I noticed that F5 seems to also be a valid solution, here. Am I missing something, or is that correct?
    EDIT: same for the second puzzle!
    Edit 5 seconds later: ha, okay, got it. nice.

  • @xorcst
    @xorcst 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t mean to be an a-hole, but what is yours Go background?

    • @alpenjon
      @alpenjon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Then don't ask without the "don't mean to be an a-hole" pretext :)