THERE’S DRAMA OVER THIS LIP BALM…

[@hxrnan1]

FYI.... *Vegan* and *Cruelty Free* are two *Very* different things

[@Marina44473]

Frr

[@laram8255]

My dad is a beekeeper. These days bees are living good, dont worry about using the wax.

[@Lavalotustop6727]

Umm no? The whole point is too NOT use animal products because it’s not necessary. Especially for cosmetic purposes. Bees do a lot of work for themselves so taking that for your makeup is what costs that ethical question. That is harm involved in taking bees wax. Even if it’s little, it’s not necessary and unjustifiable

[@Dashomin]

@@Lavalotustop6727 Though commercial beeswax harvesting can be done in a manner that does not harm bees

[@Wow-vw6ws]

@@Lavalotustop6727nobody cares if bees don’t want their honey taken. The whole point is to not be cruel to animals. Killing animals is not cruel, but obviously not necessary for this. Taking by products of animals is definitely NOT cruel. Taking eggs from chickens and wax from bees is great and fine. Grow up and realize that the world is centered around you.

[@Cc07]

@@Lavalotustop6727bees were on the verge of extinction but go ahead and call it cruelty ig. You wanna verify by science then maybe look into the fact that harvesting honey, pollen and wax actually ensured their survival. I’m all for vegan but this is an argument that is beyond unfounded. Production with bees is what saved the bees not avoiding bee products ffs

[@fleetwoodmacncheese4159]

​@@Lavalotustop6727 Honey, wax, and lanolin is perfectly fine to harvest though... I mean, don't kill the bees and sheep to get it but it's all good otherwise. Plus, bees don't understand we're taking their honey and wax. Bees don't think about us unless they're under attack and then it's just about protecting the hive and queen. They just work for and f the queen. They literally just do those things and rub on flowers and don't worry about humans... Bees are the best. And "bees" is just fun to say. BEEEEEEEEES
🥝💚🖤

[@TheBlackVelveteen]

Why wouldn’t they just make both versions available. They have tons of funding and revenue these days

[@michellequery5773]

Because it’s expensive. Glossier is already struggling as brand right now.

[@MISSIMJUSTBETTER]

@@michellequery5773how is it struggling though, it’s in Sephora which is a pretty big achievement

[@carolynnettles3767]

The OG formula has both beeswax and lanolin in it. I am thrilled it’s coming back because I take meds that keep my skin and lips dryer than the Sahara so I’m all for the OG formula returning!!! ❤

[@lynettefinnigan9540]

I don't know why vegans have a grump against lanolin, sheep must be shorn, or their wool becomes too heavy..and lanolin is extracted from the cut off hair, no animals die to produce it!!! Same as honey and wax, the bees make it to be used, no bees die in the use of wax!!! It's all airy-fainy BS!! No polution in making it, nature's way!!

[@Partyhatpossum]

The original formula IS better. Lanolin retrieval does not hurt sheep, it is collected from sheared wool.

[@kirstenguest3028]

And lanolin. IMO the only effective hydrater/moisturizer for the lips! I'm so stoked!

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

Both lanolin and beeswax can cause allergic reactions though if you are allergic and tonnes of people are.

[@kirstenguest3028]

@@taiyabazaheer9492 Tonnes? I'm not even gonna touch on that claim, however, lets respond to the other part of your comment. I would hope if you are allergic/sensitive to an ingredient you are checking any product you want to use/purchase for whatever ingredient you are allergic/sensitive to. Not EVERY product is formulated to work for EVERY person. I did not think I needed to spell that out but here we are...The prevalence of lanolin contact allergy in dermatitis patients varies from 1.2% to 6.9%. Just cause I'm annoyed. This is from dermatology today an article titled "lanolin...allergen of the year". Even an article centred entirely around lanolin as an allergen clearly presents the prevalence of allergy as low. In general populations the rate of contact allergy is even lower (

[@SavedByJesus-pi3yu]

It might sound weird but when I was nursing my daughter, the first couple weeks my nipples were raw until they got use to nursing. It’s common and they make products called nipple butter or nipple cream which is also safe for baby’s, I got a tube and it’s lanolin based. So much comes in the tube, A tiny amount goes a long way and I only needed it for the first few weeks so after I used it for elbows, knees, under eyes as an eye cream and since nipple skin seems similar to lip skin, I used it for my lips and it works amazing and way cheap as a lip balm. It’s also safe for baby’s who are nursing so I figured it’s safe for lips even if you lick your lips or ingest some. Just an idea if you like lanolin than you can pick it up in the baby section at Walmart or pharmacy.

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

​@@SavedByJesus-pi3yuin my country, they make a lanolin based cream called nipcare which is for the nipples but a lot of people use it for their lips in the winter.

[@missbeaussie]

I'm allergic to lanolin 👎

[@ALT-vz3jn]

Lanolin is hands down the best lip moisturizer. Companies shoot themselves in the foot when they make their lip balms and masks ‘vegan’ with ingredients that clearly aren’t as effective.
Most of us don’t care about the vegan aspect, we care about the cruelty free aspect which is not the same. There was that Canadian cosmetics company Bite Beauty that was known for their lanolin overnight lip mask, they sold at Sephora years ago and people were obsessed with it. You put it on before bed, and wake up with gorgeous moisturized lips.
Well they made the mistake of reformulating it vegan, and now they’re bankrupt. They didn’t listen to the cries of customers who wanted the original formula back. I loved that original lip mask SO MUCH... I’m down to my last tube and it’s starting to turn, so I have to use it up quickly.
At least Glossier didn’t make the same mistake as Bite Beauty, they listened to their customers. Another great brand of lanolin lip balm is Lanolips, sold at Ulta and they have leaping bunny certification.

[@Cc07]

i prefer cruelty free in cosmetics and more vegan food that isn’t so damn expensive. Now vegan companies are being run down, used to be somewhat healthy but they all got mpnsanto and every type of oil on them. It’s nuts seeing the ingredient list change from a few words to a paragraph with complimentary bigger pricetag. I think cosmetics should give less fucks about vegan. Not to mention the bee argument is so flawed when you look at the rate of their survival before and after more production.

[@lydiadob]

miss this lip balm so much. heartbreaking

[@walkofnails2923]

Good for Glossier! Bite Beauty (now out of business) ruined their popular agave lip mask. I bought many tubes of it in different colors for a couple of years. Then they changed it to make it vegan and it was nowhere near as good. Reviews tanked on Sephora. And I’m not saying this was the sole reason, but I think within a year or two Bite was gone.

[@pokecrossingplayerdawg]

RIP Bite Beauty!! I panic purchased 3 tubes of their mascara (holy grail status!!) and I’m on my last tube 😩 100% agree that Glossier is smart for listening to customer feedback!

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

These beauty brands need to realise that changing their very loved OG formulas in such a competitive market is a bad move especially for skin care. Laneige changed their Cream Skin Refiner which was a bestseller and now no one talks about it. Brands can instead launch new products or different versions of the same product for different skin types but people loved their OGs because it worked for them versus so many on the market that didn't. Changing the formula to add more trendy ingredients or to market them as 'vegan' completely defeats the purpose.

[@selena.996]

The price of the bite beauty lip mask is around 200$ on ebay.. I still have three and I don't know what to do when i finish them.

[@walkofnails2923]

@@selena.996 I saw that 😀 I’m a third of the way through my last one and it sucks there won’t be any more

[@samshaffer2218]

Rip Bites “fig” lipstick

[@bradenroberts1633]

The vegan users are probably a minority

[@selena.996]

I'm glad that they did so, I remember when bite beauty had to close down because of such a stuipd mistake... they destroyed the best lip mask ever and made it useless then they had to close down the whole company

[@jcml14286]

maybe someday down the road they’ll be able to rerelease the vegan as its own thing, but for now they made a smart business decision and that’s respectable!

[@Souleyme]

as a vegan im okay with beeswax lol. As long as the bees can live and thrive im good.

[@js-tw3vs]

Beekeeping supports bee communities!

[@laram8255]

Beekeepers these days wrap the hives over winter to keep them warm, and they also treat them against mites and disease, and they also put sugar water for the bees to eat over winter. The bees are doing ok

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

Vegan beauty never made any sense to me honestly. A lot of vegans are so because of animal mistreatment. No beauty product contains chicken or meat. It's always stuff like beeswax, lanolin, snail mucin etc. which is pretty harmless to the animals if not beneficial. It was created to capitalise off of the Gwyneth Paltrows of the world which a lot of vegans actually are.

[@ALT-vz3jn]

Lanolin is also harvested from sheep’s wool without harming the sheep. Lanolips is leaping bunny certified.

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

Next we want Laneige Cream Skin to bring back their OG formula too.

[@ashleymejia8971]

We need to scream this from the hilltops seriously. 😒 they could make the reformulation the cream skin LITE and everyone would be satisfied.

[@Wow-vw6ws]

Laneige already tests on animals not sure why they think making it vegan will get peta in their pockets 😂

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

​@@ashleymejia8971exactly. Not everyone wants a long ingredient list or HA. There's a reason so many people bought it, it was simple and hence worked for a lot of people even people who avoid HA. It rarely gave anyone any problems. Now it's just another toner on the market which may or may not work for you.

[@PosaPunto]

Not 👏everything 👏has to be👏 vegan👏Brands out there ruining stuff just so they could put that vegan label. They did the right thing in the end.

[@Lavalotustop6727]

No they didn’t? Wish they had more vegan formulas, I don’t like supporting cruelty at the end of the day 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@PosaPunto]

@@Lavalotustop6727 There are other cruelty free stuff available. They don't have to ruin all of the good stuff in the name of that. It's not like you don't have another choice. If the brands want to make vegan versions that's fine but don't touch the original.

[@LionelleDi]

@@Lavalotustop6727 vegan does not mean cruelty free 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@ALT-vz3jn]

@@Lavalotustop6727vegan and cruelty-free are 👏 TWO 👏 DIFFERENT 👏 THINGS 👏

[@Partyhatpossum]

⁠@@Lavalotustop6727beeswax and lanolin aren’t cruel😂

[@zoeywilliams4848]

I’m so glad, I’ve been milking my OG’s from a few years ago, they’re so nourishing and last forever and I was thinking I’d have to go back to just using Burt’s Bees again (which I think are equally wonderful lip balms) because so many people gave such bad reviews on the vegan formula. Glad they did this, very smart business decision on their end.

[@naiaramarie1310]

Burt’s bees is now owned by Clorox which scares me a little

[@Partyhatpossum]

@@naiaramarie1310Clorox isn’t the parent company. Proctor & Gamble are.

[@heatherheacock]

I’m so thankful and happy 🙏🏼

[@caitrinabbott4006]

Maybe they should make both formulas and change one of the names to differentiate between the two

[@ALT-vz3jn]

Obviously the vegan version wasn’t selling, so there’s no point in them making both.

[@CareyXO]

The original formula is definitely better than the vegan one in my opinion. They probably sold less with the vegan formula. It’s a good business decision and you can never please everyone.

[@clcarrer3038]

Beautiful look! ❤
Btw, have you seen the new JCPenny Beauty section? (Idk if you have one near). I've seen some shorts and reels showing it and looks like a little Ulta, lol. Except that they also have some brands you don't find elsewhere. We'll see if it works for them in the long run.

[@NoDoubtItsKenz]

Obviously, the vegans weren’t buying their product enough for them to keep the formula vegan the new, to keep it new. So I say to hell with them you got other products you can use this is just not one of them. Much like as a black woman there’s a lot of make up products. I cannot use a lot of make up brands that I cannot use and so I don’t use them. They don’t cater to me. I don’t cry about it.

[@shoppertattoo]

How is beeswax not vegan?? I’ve never understood the beeswax honey argument. If someone taught a dog to bake a cake would vegans not be allowed to eat that cake?

[@Pissnation]

LMAAAOO the analogy is so real. Vegans claim that were stealing resources the bees need for their colonies but they actually make way more than they need esp when properly cared for

[@nd4856]

New formula was awful. Truly. Both the lanolin and beeswax made it non vegan. My skin adores lanolin.

[@lynettefinnigan9540]

No animals die to make wax or lanolin, vegans are fools..its natural product from nature!!

[@alexandram1301]

I bought the sparkle one when they first launched at Sephora and it’s awful, constantly separated always oil coming out before balm, maybe I’ll try the original

[@macandfire5477]

Okay I never tried the OG until strawberry and I bought that after already loving the vegan formula so much 😂! Like it is my favorite because it’s not glossy at all, just blurs the lips and gives a natural healthy texture whereas the OG (at least the strawberry) is slightly glossy and yeah 😂 I like the vegan formula better! Seriously companies can’t win … is what it is ❤ BUT I love that they listen to their customers!

[@lana.plays_]

it feels so greasy and clumpy

[@xoxo.brinley]

ive never had anything from glossier before which means idk about what the formula and texture is like but i got the new/original formula and i love it!!❤🍓
(also i was first but whatever)

[@ajcates2112]

I love your make up in this video!! Absolutely gorgeous!!! What did you use???? Tutorial please!!!!

[@pinagrrrr2280]

You remind me in this video of Lucy Liu as Watson.

[@LJMcCarty]

I reordered the lip balms as soon as I got the email.
I do agree with other comments. They should rerelease the vegan ones as their own thing so the option is still there.

[@i_bleed_makeup1187]

Good riddance to the vegan formula!!! I will be purchasing multiple balms since they brought back the beeswax and lanolin!

[@jayb7425]

I don’t understand why people are fine using worse testing methods and more harmful ingredients instead of just being like “ yeah beeswax is fine” bro it’s beeswax.

[@ClarisaM777]

Is there original formula thicker? I personally love thicker balms! I didn’t like the reformulated one because it was so thin and slippery

[@ctrlaltdltmylife]

Yes, definitely thick!

[@redcapmilk]

Man i feel like im buying glossier at wrong times, first when they changed the packaging and second when they switched back to the old formula…

[@skinwoman]

We've all been waiting for this day. Some vegans are fine with honey and beeswax, and if they're not, then this lip balm is just another thing they can't have and they should be used to that. No shade -- my brother is vegan and very strict except for honey.

[@jenniferforeman1599]

Why didn't they just keep both formulas? That would have been the best bet.

[@justsierraok]

I'm praying for a sale lol

[@JR-md9rz]

My intentions are to move away from anything that is not cruelty free. It's a slow process, and I will use what I have and even buy new if I totally love something. If we all just do something, it helps. And with so many choices, it's not that difficult. Always something new and better to be had. Channel changing their bronzer formula, remember 😂 after the devastation many returned to it, and actually loved it. But who cared, really by that point we had how many new bronzer to choose from? We're drowning in Bronzers. We're drowning in lippies of every kind, blushes, foundations oh my. So over saturated we should all be able to find new loves....carry on🎉

[@pde8444]

I don’t think beeswax is cruel tho…

[@JR-md9rz]

Idk, it seems harmless, I agree. My comment wasn't really directed at that lip product. Just kinda laughing at how we fall apart over something when there's so much out there. And I'm guilty, I've done it also lol. Not about any particular product or person/people. I have to reason with myself at times. I'm such a lover of all things beauty, I want it alllll. Then I have an abundance of makeup and one face, lol. And I'm still looking at new and improved 🎉🎉🎉🥳🤡🤯

[@DeadKraken]

@@JR-md9rz BTW, the "vegan" label doesn't always mean cruelty free. In many markets(like the european one) you need to look for the leaping bunny or other official cruelty free labels to be sure, because if not regulated, brands will just slap some made up tag on their products and be done with it. Korean skincare brands do this a lot, Cosrx claims to be cruelty-free but they have snail mucin products, and there is NO way to obtain snail mucin without stressing and harming the snails. The ones that sell in China are required by law to test on animals and are therefore no cruelty-free brands etc etc

[@Partyhatpossum]

Lanolin and beeswax are not gained through cruelty

[@Ashragdoll]

You can be vegan and use products with beeswax, the condition on it is whether it's being cultivated in a sustainable manner.

[@youatemyenchilada]

AND LANOLIN!! The formula contains lanolin which is not vegan

[@Partyhatpossum]

Which is dumb asf bc sheep NEED to be sheared which is where lanolin comes from

[@youatemyenchilada]

@@Partyhatpossum ok ?? And did I ask?????

[@Sarah_mermaid27]

Wait so every flavor is now the original formula or just strawberry?

[@momonomo2008]

Are all the flavors now in the original formula? I thought it was just the strawberry

[@lrandrews838]

Have they thought abt doing both?

[@jamesconrad1100]

I’m super allergic to lanolin and I never could use the non vegan ones. Sad the vegan ones are going away

[@UMMrealLoud]

Waiting for bite beauty to return the og formula of the lip mask in the tube, that shit was better than anything for me and then they changed the formula 😭😭

[@xqueenfrostine]

Bite Beauty is no more. Only the lip labs still exist.

[@rhileynnna]

Could they not use synthetic beeswax??

[@MA1.5]

Beeswax is one thing. Lanolin is another. Beeswax can be sourced responsibly and sustainably without harm to the bees, but I don’t think lanolin can. I’m allergic to lanolin so I can’t use that.

[@spokenme08]

It can. They get it from shorn sheep wool. The sheep need to be sheered at least once a year because their coats are continuously growing.Imagine just piling on wool all year long. Not taking it off is abusive and leads to the sheep being uncomfortable.
An allergy issue obviously an issue. I know vegans who will eat/use animal products like milk from their own animals/people they trust. Raw honey is yummy.

[@xqueenfrostine]

So long as sheep are bred, sheep need to be sheared. To not do so is actually cruel to the animal as their coat will get so heavy it’s hard on their joints. Lanolin is derived from the sheared wool so the actual lanolin production isn’t problematic at all for the sheep. That said, we wouldn’t have lanolin to use if sheep weren’t being bred and raised for wool (or meat and milk) production, so while no animal is bringing bred or harmed specifically to make lanolin, the ingredient obviously inherits the same ethical baggage that wearing wool has.

[@BenjaminBerryHoops]

It’s the lanolin…

[@dawnchelle]

I just don’t like that it’s mostly petroleum in the formula & that’s why I won’t buy it🤷🏻‍♀️

[@lisapetitpas9476]

Don't care for packaging. Would rather have an applicator like a lip gloss wand.

[@kaileyhallett]

I never thought of bee products as not being vegan. I mean it makes sense but it never occurred to me

[@Pinuu__17]

So does that mean they are using animal blood or something?

[@isa-belva]

who the hell is abusing bees to get beeswax anyway?

[@Bella-wz9xw]

and even when you cave and buy the lip balms your lips still don't feel moisturized😭

[@karenmichael5483]

If you decide to donate any lip balm or lip oil, I'm here please. I have esophageal cancer and, from complications I had a stroke so my lips stay sssoooo dry and I don't have a lot of money

[@Bella-wz9xw]

you know who's fr struggling??? the acne prone girlies BC EVERY LIP BALM IS COMEDOGENIC OR HAS ACNE CAUSING INGREDIENTS😭

[@Partyhatpossum]

Are you using it on your skin?😂

[@Bella-wz9xw]

@@Partyhatpossum noooo but you know how lip balm slips and slides? its especially hard when you have small lips😭 so like i'll try my hardest to only get it on my actual lips but then i miss and get it on the outside and then breakout😭

[@lisamarie5918]

People care enough about Bees, that they wouldn't use the formula? Come on people.

[@sideeffect2]

They're still cruelty FREE. There are ethical ways of getting beeswax.

[@moniboni92]

Ok, sorry, but not everything in the world has to be vegan. However, has glossier retracted the new formula altogether? Why not keep both?

[@bellabelle00]

Right? But I personally don't care if they keep the new formula or the old one. I'm just happy they changed the packaging because the original packaging irked my nerves

[@melissam7379]

Vegans are always whining about something…..let them complain

[@Bejeweled13Swiftie]

Exactly! It’s not like they’re being forced to be vegan

[@guysigotahandle]

Mhm. There are vegan brands at Sephora 😭

[@kateliness2]

Lanolin is such a gross ingredient.

[@Partyhatpossum]

Except it works wonderfully😂

[@kateliness2]

​@Partyhatpossum Lots of other ingredients that aren't from sheep's oil glands work well, too.

[@missbeaussie]

Another overpriced basic balm.

[@guysigotahandle]

It’s not that expensive… but yes it’s quite bland

[@meghanodonoghue9066]

Beeswax....people are upset about beeswax.....it is a by product for goodness sake!

[@renee6989]

Good. Their new formula sucks so bad. Absolute trash. The OG formula is so much better!

[@goldenbees]

The vegan users.... NEED TO GET A LIFE

[@sideeffect2]

What percentage of the population is vegan? There are loads of purely vegan brands for them. I don't see why the majority should loae out for them .

[@ujwalaprajapati5431]

That’s doesn’t make any sense.. useless

[@adriennevecellio8433]

Is a bee considered meat? Vegan?😂

[@reidreadredreed]

it’s an animal product so no vegans don’t use it

[@Bejeweled13Swiftie]

Vegan isn’t just meat free