Well Placed German "Balance" Mostly.. - PUMA - War Thunder
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From 8.3, to 9.0, to now the familiar 10.0 environment. The PUMA has seen so intense changes, making this vehicle nearly invisible in it's well earned battle rating!
00:00 - The "Balanced" Revisit
05:22 - The PUMA'ing Begins!
22:18 - Were the changes worth?
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Tbh the puma on 10.0 is an absolute joke in comparaison to the 2s38 on 10.0...
Spike's for PUMA 24'!
Meanwhile Gaijin: "What's that you say? You want an M113 armed with Spikes in the Israeli tech tree? Say no more!".
I second your motion
Also Gaijin: "An Azerbaijani Mi-17 with Spikes in the Russian helicoptor tree as a premium? Of course!".
Try 2030. The base puma still isnt fixed, the muss aps is supposed to be 360° among other issues.
When are they going to fix spikes? I'm legit 1 kill for every 7 fired and 0 kills against mbts. I've only killed bradleys, bmps and spaas with them.
Puma at 8.3 was so wild. Gaijin is literally brain dead about BRs
we need the spike puma
trust me, as a lynx player it's not all that much better. occasionally you'll get a kill, maybe 1/7 shots on MBTs, light vehicles are slightly more consistent.
Spikes are unreliable at best. They're not that good for balance sake and it'll mean it'll go up to 10.3.
@@Kwisss10.3 is a better lineup for Germany anyways.
And the darts for it can’t get through a engine block but Russian 30mm darts can go right through engine and transmission
Yeah 30mm in general are shit now
PUMA at 10.0 isn't that bad to fight.
HSTV-L at 11.3 isn't that bad to fight.
2S38 at 10.0 is straight up HELL to fight, and god forbid you got uptiered against that thing.
Yedi feels like the little cousins that always wants to tag along but always gets in the way.
Pffft ...
It’s useless tbh, scouting machine.
The Begleitpanzer is better and at lower BR, and can take out Helis easily.
agree, also they need to change how HE-TF work in modern vehicles, those programmable rounds is not same as ww2 era HE-TF
One unique Centurion variant I think would be cool is the FV 3805, which is an SPH started in 1956 and was supposed to be armed with a BL 5.5 inch (140mm) gun. However, the project was stopped in 1960 in favor of the FV433 Abbot.
A unique British SPH that Gaijin will ignore in favor of another 10.0 Russian tech tree or premium vehicle.
the gun can fire so much faster irl :( wish we could have it like that in game
No it cant. It has a fire rate limiter mechanically built in to prevent higher fire rates. This was done to ensure consistent accuracy, we didnt get that accuracy part in war thunder.
The dart can pen much more irl aswell
@@alexisleskinen9870 there is no limiter the Gun is capable of much higer rpm but the Bundeswehr fires on low rpm to ensure superior accuracy on larde distances
@@Rum_cola Got any sources? The official Rheinmetall Defence Papers state it penetrates 53 mm RHA inclined at 60 degrees @ 1000 meters. In game it penetrates 56 mm at the same parameters. However in simulations it was found it can penetrate 141 mm of RHA - though official numbers and testing from Rheinmetal is needed for Gaijin to change that front. If it were changed it would be 141 mm at 0 degrees but the 60 degrees would go to 53 mm.
@@Kwisss Quit spreading misinformation clown
The MELLS ATGM system is missing for the Puma
The best AFV in the game is undoubtably the Fox. That thing is so much fun and is an absolute menace compared to all the other IFVs or Scout Cars.
Nah sweden has the best ifv/support tanks in the game
I think you forgot about the 2s38
This „camo“ looks awesome! :)
You look awesome
Yeah,you are fucking sexy
@@Ihavpickle real
Fun fact: this thing recently get another nerf, the turret traverse speed reduce from 60 degree/s to 45.
IRL it does a 360° in about 3 seconds.
*sees video of good Puma gameplay* *try it gets one shotted by a 3bm42 mango from nowhere complain about Puma on forums and say it should get spikes*
Big boy Puma gaming~
Man i remember when PUMA came, the 8.7 lineup at the time was OP
(TAM, PUMA, Beglight, Class3P, G.91)
Maybe i forgot one
I always push that fat back end around corners to bait shots. Not against 292s because most people run HE frag in it, it seems nowadays. But yeah it lacks in firepower compared to the 2s38, but i believe it is more survivable than the 2s38.
Fuel tank in 2s38:
PUMA is probably the only light tank that can survive when everything is broken
i'd love to see you play the flarakrad since i heard it got nerfed a ton a while ago and would like to see if it's still worth picking up
I wish they would just implement the direct fire mode which the spike LR does have, so it could be given as an actual buff to struggling vics like the puma, or alternatively, just give it MELLS for something beefier than spike.
Hope they give it GOOD spikes and buff the Aahead ammo (anti air ammo ) and finally a usable aps .
You should bring out the bagel panzer its super fun!
Could you play Italy 10.3 next?
i got the puma when this video released lmao
NEVER BUFF THIS TANK keep it at 10.0 and let it rot there
Justin, can you make a video on the CV90120?
Raaaaaaaid shadow legends
Type 89 IFV revisit? With the little Toyota Type 93 as a feature?
Even if its not as good anymore its personally still my favorite vehicule and the one that I do the best in
Hey Justin, dunno if you noticed it in game, but do you know what is causing the problem with the 30mm box-fed vehicles (PUMA, VBCI, etc) that keep reloading single rounds into their first stage ammo storage instead of reloading boxes of ammo? Or if gaijin is aware of it?
No sadly this is intended
@@wyk3548any idea why, or when? It just seemed to appear one day when I played the VBCI and I am still so confused as to why a box-fed autocanon reloads as if it’s a 120mm with a 1st & 2nd stage ammo rack
@@Northern00 so if u run out of ammo in first stage it doesn’t take like 2 mins for u to be able to fire again instead they break up the reload process so u can fire then reload
I know it's somewhat copy-paste, but I think it would be good for France. It's an M47 Patton, but armed with the CN 105mm F1, aka the AMX-30's main gun.
So this would be like the M47 in the Italian tech tree that also has a 105mm, right?
Justin can you play J-11?
because I want to grind it and I'm still stuck grinding F-16
Nice gun collection along the wall. Is one a sks?
Yus
anyone know what settings he's playing at? his game looks so much better than mine but i have pretty much everything maxed out and have dlss on quality
i was in the first match, i said hi! it was alot of fun
I ‘won’ this skin but it won’t go on my M26.
Deserved it for paying for that.
Kamov Ka-29 hasn't been covered in depth by a great youtuber like year in over 2 years almost 3, correct me if im wrong but it doesnt struggle as much as it used to
there’s really no reason to play it when the the mi-24p is at the same BR. also lacks rwr
@@dingshloot127 cool but there are 3 Mi 24s in game (don't quote me) and only one 1 Ka 29, furthermore the gun belts shred, i agree the Mi 4 gun is probs better and ka 50 also but it is still fun to play
Hey Justin, ya might wanna let gaijin know that the shelves in the mall can’t be shot through by darts, they messed up people’s shots so many times and it’s annoying
Hi, I’m not going to start another war this time Justin, I promise.
I know the Puma has a better armor but CV9040c in my experiences is better. Cv9040c is only IFV has spall liner which help alot when you take shot from MBT. The recent update just increased the spall and get higher percentage to kill Crews. You should try it again though, i swear it a decent different since your last video about Cv9040c😃
I don't play this game, Puma doesen't have spall liners in this game? lmao.
Not sure if this vehicle or the lynx but one of them is allegedly worth €18mn a piece and you thought U.S. equipment was expensive J.T
Could you make the voice of yedi louder pls? Would appreciate it
I tried, it's difficult to set up specific volumes given my two PC setup and my software for my headset being super basic.
@@JustinPlaysTV oh ok
Not possible through the discord voice chat individual gain ? Or that would make you deaf in-game ? Or boost Discord's output in post ?
insta skip that meme ad bs everytime
I understand full-time creators gotta make a living so I'm not complaining but I insta-skip every sponsor on every video I'll be frank 😅
Day 3 of asking: Its been a minute since you played 9.0 britain as well @JustinPlays ,perhaps lower maybe taking out the canberra and other british heavy bombers?
Man the post pen is bad
why are you so lucky in the puma? i get one shot all the time
You'll survive much better sideways than frontally, the rear part of the hull is big empty bait. Hull down too. Careful what you get shot from... darts will just pass thru. Missiles and HE stuff errrr not so much ^^
Also TH-cam content is jumpcut and cherrypicked, easy to be fooled when you don't see the times he got destroyed doing nothing of interest. And finally : Justin is a good player, meaning he tends to have good positioning, not get exposed to multiple angles by unknown ennemies, he recognizes and *names* tanks I don't even know exist in the game XD
I don’t know how you can play Germany Any time I play Germany no matter how much I try the angle I always get paint and it’s always my Gunner or I always get one tapped now I’m trying to play Russia but low tier like 1.0 and reserve is so ass I finally unlock the KV one and I’m finally starting to see why people are Say bise because I definitely see a tiny bit of it but when F.. hate is the people that you kill come back in an aeroplane just to revenge bomb you I wish there was a game mode where there was no aircraft it was just tank on tank combat
Idc what anyone says, 10.0 is still too high for the Puma. Its huge, has a bad gun that doesnt even reliably kill targets from the side and absolutely no frontal anti-tank capabilities. Should be 9.3 or 9.7 at most.
Can you pls do a review about 9.3 Israel ?
tam 2x pls
i heard Yeddi want to play some russia games !!!
lol :D Go away with Russian vehicles ^^
@@yedidyah xD
hey justin russian 6.0 to 8.0 should be more balanced. Getting butt kicked
I miss the 8.3 PUMA times
- said no sane person who cares a little about the game's health ever.
@@MozzaBurger88 The game doesn't care about my health either. Plus I think the 2S38 players don't really care about the games health, neither the developers.
@MozzaBurger88 8.3 is a little much but 10.0 makes it worthless almost
Same gun and thermals as the bmp 2m but no missiles
Bmp has a way higher rate of fire also, lets not even talk about the 2s38 here lmao.
But you are way more survivable than the bmp and more mobile
I was able to survive 6 missiles shot on the side by an chopper in thus think
But yeah pvo is really under br
It could stay in 10.0 bit without the dart or like max 15 darts,it should be balances
@@isaquesevero4369it also is multiple times more survivable than a bmp and has a better round than the bmp’s gun
if we compare raw firepower, PUMA is one the worst from all 9.0-10.0
@@rxzxqx6982 yes
It take so many shots to destroy someone
They need to give it spikes it's too unfair
shit random legends
actually a rare sight nowadays
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Justin: "it still handles itself incredibly well"
Proceeds to get stomped throughout the video and struggles to pen tanks frontally. You did so much worse in the puma than most of your other tanks so im not sure where that opinion comes from.
it's a ifv, they should not pen mbt frontally. It's from my experience in using it, not a very worthwile vehicle to use, but saying ifv's should pen mbts frontally is BS
@@Max-hn5fs counter argument: cv90 40s and 2s38, and the bagelpanzer once they add its apfsds.
Ifvs arent supposed to pen mbts frontally would make sense if the reality of war thunder didnt exist.
War Thunder sucks now! They keep removing vehicles and adding BS!
its pretty bad