Dw8000 is a very underrated synth. The panel interface is the typical slider/buttons 80’s style but the synth is simple enough to navigate that it really isn’t an issue. A bcr2000 can be used to make editing quicker. The analog filter on the dw8000 is excellent.
@@VultureCultureI have one and it is fantastic, made me rediscover my good old DW-8000 entirely ! There is even a "random patch" function which does an awesome job. And it is honestly far more easy to set the delay/chorus with the Retroaktiv controller than with the minimalistic synth interface.
It's a wild coincidence that I was messing around with Valhalla Vintage Verb the other day with some old synths, and found a killer patch, then today as I'm skipping around in your video to find what reverb you're sending this board through, I finally find that you're using the exact patch I had just discovered and loved- Homestar Bladerunner!
My love for the DW-8000 was reignited once I created a TouchOSC control panel for my iPad. To have instant access to all the parameters instantly (or simultaneously!)
I have a lot of expensive synths, and then my fairly cheep DW-8000. It gets used on nearly all my songs. It's amazing how good it is. The DW-8P just takes it over the top.
This was my very first synth in 1986 ( I was14 years old at that time). Funny that today I finally got one back in my hands. So this brought me here while searching for videos on the 8000. Your video is absolutely badassed 🤘
The Kawai K3 is also very good at this (and has aftertouch). Nice sharp saw wave. Rolands, like the Juno or JX-3P are not as inclined to these kinds of sounds.
@@VultureCulture You can still get them at reasonable prices as people haven't really caught on to them. But step from your DW onto this metal tank...will feel like driving a Cadillac. Solid. But I think the DW really shines with the possibilities that the digital delay gives --and of course a super arpeggiator.
Ya, I have a jx-3p and the sawtooth doesn’t sound as rich, however it does have its strengths, like most synths do. I don’t even think my jx-10 has a saw as rich either, however the vsynth I have does.
Glad to have found this. I just repaired and resurrected my EX-8000 and this will serve as a nice refresher to follow along with as I get back into enjoying this great synth. I had a DW-8000 in the mid 80’s and I sold and replaced it with the EX-8000 at some point with the idea that I would consolidate my gear with rack units, I am sorta glad that I did because the keyboards seem to be developing all kinds of issues from what I see online. Thanks for the video, I will be sure to check out more of your content.
Awesome demo and walk-through. This is the first retro synth I ever bought. Still have it today. Great work with these walk-throughs, love how you put each piece of gear through its paces!
It's my first retro synth too! I'm actually doing a livestream on this bad boy with a Retroaktiv controllers this Wednesday if you want to check it out: th-cam.com/video/qh5hROIAN3w/w-d-xo.html
@@VultureCultureAlpha Juno Series, ESQ-1, and believe it or not, but the Poly-800 is really growing on me. Oh, can't forget the CZ series. Recently acquired an Akai MX-73, and it too is pretty impressive. Can;t forget digital, JV series, Korg AI/AI2, etc.
I normally switch it to memory protect mode and only have it off when writing a patch carefully by typing it in. I hate to lose patches on this thing, lol Btw, SynthKing wrote new waveforms for DW eproms to D/L
I've been loving mu DW-8000 in combinatin with the RetroAktiv controller - makes programming super fun and intuitive. Great synth and I feel like its been slept on until the last couple of years....I'm using it on. EVERYTHING these days. Great video - thanks for sharing!
This is a great video. The DW8000 was the first synth I owned. I just downloaded the FB7999 vst and had a go at this. Great Vangelis sound. I can't wait to try this on my Kronos. Thank you.
@@VultureCulture I was quite lucky with it. I used to work in a music shop back in the day doing demos when it came out. I got my first gig in a rock band because I could play Jump on it. I never looked back. Still gigging 38 years later. I was watching your livestream the other night when you were showcasing the Mirage. Great channel. Thanks again.
Fantastic showcase and tutorial! Besides the Valhalla DSP effects, any other vst effects or outboard hardware effects you tend to reach for to pair it with?
Not really! I recently did a jam with it: th-cam.com/video/InYmKKqv8-I/w-d-xo.html In that video it's just my daw's stock eq and comp on it. Fabfilter Saturn is my go to distortion in the box. If you want to go vintage and analog, since the DW's chorus is digital, you could get a Boss CE-3 guitar pedal with an ACA adapter.
A guy hacked this synth years ago, expanding the arsenal to 4 banks with no less than 64 waveforms each, if memory helps me. His demo video was here on TH-cam. But he says has no interest to share the way how to, only a good but not so useful general "making of" history on his page. Too bad...😩
Yep ' too bad'.. but not for me: I hacked an interface into the DW-8000's VCF & VCA Sections and then piped 8 individual outputs of my Kurzweil K2500 as DSP Oscs Section into it and created my own Super-Hybrid with it. Essentially unlimited waveforms...
EDIT for my previous comment: memory banks are 32, each with 16 different waveforms if wished. Here is the video: th-cam.com/video/XyQyGtIZbSk/w-d-xo.html Another guy hacked his DW-6000 so he enhanced the waveforms from stock 8 to 256, selectable by a knob! th-cam.com/video/QS-4TLc8B60/w-d-xo.html
great stuff - and I haven't used my DW8000 for a long time because the aftertouch died - but to be honest, compared to say V-Synth aftertouch controller the DW8000 versions was very on/off with the ramp up and down very difficult to control in terms of slow/fast
@@VultureCulture do you know. Why it deteriorates ? My DW was left in storage for years - when I took it out battery needed replacement ....got that done but was told that the aftertouch was unresponsive (nothing to do with the battery replacement of course) and could not be resurrected. I’m guessing perishing of some sort - do you know if it can be fixed?
@@VultureCulturedo you know why it deteriorates ? My DW was left in storage for years - when I took it out battery needed replacement ....got that done but was told that the aftertouch was unresponsive (nothing to do with the battery replacement of course) and could not be resurrected. I’m guessing perishing of some sort - do you know if it can be fixed?
Unfortunately I have no experience with the Kawai Sx-210 so I can't say. The DW is generally considered the king of the 80's hybrids, along with the SQ-80.
I love my DW8000! What are you using to record? I've found that using my cheap basic Focusrite Scarlett introduces messy loss to the recording so my next move is to acquire maybe an Apollo?
What do you mean by messy loss? I highly recommend not spending money on upgrading your preamps. The Scarlett should be more than fine for capturing the DW-8000.
@@VultureCulture it definitely captures fine and I dont necessarily need to upgrade, but when I record or monitor (when the signal goes to the computer) I can hear some fuzzy artifacts from what I assume is the d/a conversion process. When I plug my headphones directly into the synth I dont hear it. Not a big deal but I just want to learn some ways to record around the artifacts. Also I could be wrong and the artifacts could come from the old amps or something internal but I'm leaning towards the digital conversion
Huh that's bizarre. I would see if you could try some other I/o before you drop cash on something like that. It's more likely a problem with your 35-year-old synth than modern hardware, although you could have a bad interface, or a bad preamp in there. Do you use the same output to record as with headphones? That might be your issue.
@@VultureCulture yea that would make sense if it was an internal issue, but i plug the headphones in straight into the port on the synth with no conversion, a different output than the output cables going into the scarlett, and the problem seems to disappear, so i think it’s the interface. i am hoping i could find some other recording device that minimizes the artifacts. maybe the apollo is overboard but ik there are ways to get your synth into your computer other than just a cheap interface. btw thank you for responding!
It sounds like you're comparing two different outputs on the synth, one for the headphones (with no artifacts) and one to the Scarlett (with artifacts). Have you tried recording directly from the headphone out? It's most likely: 1. Bad outputs on the DW. 2. Faulty preamp in the Scarlett. 3. Bad DAC. A bad DAC is going to sound like you put a bit crushing plugin on the output, lots of shrill, high frequency noise, not fuzzy in any way. If you are hearing any artifacting it is not coming from a working Scarlett. If it's cheaper to replace your interface than repair it than by all means upgrade, but I would hate it if you spent all that money and still had the problem. Here's a great video comparing a $900 preamp vs a $50 one: th-cam.com/video/qhm7cn7ZSbs/w-d-xo.html They're not identical, but the difference is less than a little eq and maybe a saturation plugin can achieve.
I used to own one of these. In my opinion it sounded better than the DX7 that dominated music back in the day because of that obnoxious electric piano patch. The DX7 is the most overrate synth in history.
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Dw8000 is a very underrated synth. The panel interface is the typical slider/buttons 80’s style but the synth is simple enough to navigate that it really isn’t an issue. A bcr2000 can be used to make editing quicker. The analog filter on the dw8000 is excellent.
I love this synth so much that I'm saving up for a Retroaktiv DW-8P.
Good job once again. I am getting the mustroncs expansion board. Always wanted to layer and split.
@@VultureCultureI have one and it is fantastic, made me rediscover my good old DW-8000 entirely ! There is even a "random patch" function which does an awesome job. And it is honestly far more easy to set the delay/chorus with the Retroaktiv controller than with the minimalistic synth interface.
@villavide I love all the random patches you can create. Retroaktiv adds such value to these bad boys with that one feature!
Using 2 EX-8000s w DW-8P controller. 16 voices, split or DUAL 8voice. It’s sweet
That's fucking awesome
It's a wild coincidence that I was messing around with Valhalla Vintage Verb the other day with some old synths, and found a killer patch, then today as I'm skipping around in your video to find what reverb you're sending this board through, I finally find that you're using the exact patch I had just discovered and loved- Homestar Bladerunner!
It's a fucking awesome patch. I use Tyrell hall a lot too. Any other fave patches?
It's the low parameter resolution that hold this synth back. I know, I have two.
I’d say exactly that is where it’s character is.
The low parameter resolution is only when programming - it's much smoother when controlled by an envelope or lfo.
My love for the DW-8000 was reignited once I created a TouchOSC control panel for my iPad. To have instant access to all the parameters instantly (or simultaneously!)
So awesome once you unlock the power of this synth!
I have a lot of expensive synths, and then my fairly cheep DW-8000. It gets used on nearly all my songs. It's amazing how good it is. The DW-8P just takes it over the top.
It's a glorious glorious analog poly with a broader palette than an analog oscillator synth
This was my very first synth in 1986 ( I was14 years old at that time). Funny that today I finally got one back in my hands. So this brought me here while searching for videos on the 8000. Your video is absolutely badassed 🤘
Thank you very much 🙏
The Kawai K3 is also very good at this (and has aftertouch). Nice sharp saw wave. Rolands, like the Juno or JX-3P are not as inclined to these kinds of sounds.
I have never tried a K3, I hope to soon!
@@VultureCulture You can still get them at reasonable prices as people haven't really caught on to them. But step from your DW onto this metal tank...will feel like driving a Cadillac. Solid. But I think the DW really shines with the possibilities that the digital delay gives --and of course a super arpeggiator.
What you think about the k4?
Ya, I have a jx-3p and the sawtooth doesn’t sound as rich, however it does have its strengths, like most synths do. I don’t even think my jx-10 has a saw as rich either, however the vsynth I have does.
I have 9ne. ❤
Glad to have found this. I just repaired and resurrected my EX-8000 and this will serve as a nice refresher to follow along with as I get back into enjoying this great synth. I had a DW-8000 in the mid 80’s and I sold and replaced it with the EX-8000 at some point with the idea that I would consolidate my gear with rack units, I am sorta glad that I did because the keyboards seem to be developing all kinds of issues from what I see online. Thanks for the video, I will be sure to check out more of your content.
Thank you and I'm excited the video resurrected your love for Korg's best Hybrid synth! 🙏
I think if you want those waveforms you can also get a dss1 or the M1 or possibly a T1. ❤
Awesome demo and walk-through. This is the first retro synth I ever bought. Still have it today.
Great work with these walk-throughs, love how you put each piece of gear through its paces!
It's my first retro synth too!
I'm actually doing a livestream on this bad boy with a Retroaktiv controllers this Wednesday if you want to check it out: th-cam.com/video/qh5hROIAN3w/w-d-xo.html
Just picked mine up recently. I'm in love with it. Need to clean the key contacts, and sort out the aftertouch, but so far it's one of my favorites.
Such an incredible instrument! Any other vintage faves?
@@VultureCultureAlpha Juno Series, ESQ-1, and believe it or not, but the Poly-800 is really growing on me. Oh, can't forget the CZ series. Recently acquired an Akai MX-73, and it too is pretty impressive. Can;t forget digital, JV series, Korg AI/AI2, etc.
I normally switch it to memory protect mode and only have it off when writing a patch carefully by typing it in. I hate to lose patches on this thing, lol
Btw, SynthKing wrote new waveforms for DW eproms to D/L
Don’t you just love the vibe of his videos?
Hey, I appreciate it, thank you 🙏
It's trippy how wide the delay sounds 17:42, im listening on MacBook speakers and it sounds like its delaying from a foot away
Yeah it's an incredibly powerful delay.
I've been loving mu DW-8000 in combinatin with the RetroAktiv controller - makes programming super fun and intuitive. Great synth and I feel like its been slept on until the last couple of years....I'm using it on. EVERYTHING these days. Great video - thanks for sharing!
It was my first vintage synth and to me it still is the most authentically "vintage" sounding synth I have. It's so warm and dark and beautiful
This is a great video. The DW8000 was the first synth I owned. I just downloaded the FB7999 vst and had a go at this. Great Vangelis sound. I can't wait to try this on my Kronos. Thank you.
That's an awesome first synth! I love the DW!
Glad you enjoyed the video, I do a Livestream every Wednesday at 9 pm est, usually on vintage synths 🙏
@@VultureCulture I was quite lucky with it. I used to work in a music shop back in the day doing demos when it came out. I got my first gig in a rock band because I could play Jump on it. I never looked back. Still gigging 38 years later. I was watching your livestream the other night when you were showcasing the Mirage. Great channel. Thanks again.
That's so awesome! Hope to see you in the chat soon! Doing the Fender Chroma Polaris in 2 weeks 🌑
If i could i would sample those waveforms to use in my akai samplers.
What’s interesting is that Vangelis (memory eternal) did own a DW-8000 at one point.
That's awesome! I didn't know that!
@@VultureCulture Keith Emerson played one on "Emerson Lake and Powell" 1986....check out their version of "Mars , Bringer of War " by Holst
I didn't know that!
Fantastic showcase and tutorial! Besides the Valhalla DSP effects, any other vst effects or outboard hardware effects you tend to reach for to pair it with?
Not really! I recently did a jam with it: th-cam.com/video/InYmKKqv8-I/w-d-xo.html
In that video it's just my daw's stock eq and comp on it. Fabfilter Saturn is my go to distortion in the box. If you want to go vintage and analog, since the DW's chorus is digital, you could get a Boss CE-3 guitar pedal with an ACA adapter.
@@VultureCulture Nice, TY.
OHH!! Very very thank You. Will check it.
You're welcome 🙏
Im thinking of buying another one.
This video title is one of the best things I've ever seen 🤣🤣🤣
Idwy I went so extra with this one 😂
I think theres a second lfo on the joydtick.
A guy hacked this synth years ago, expanding the arsenal to 4 banks with no less than 64 waveforms each, if memory helps me. His demo video was here on TH-cam. But he says has no interest to share the way how to, only a good but not so useful general "making of" history on his page. Too bad...😩
Wowowowowow! A DW-8000 x 64 would be insane 🤯🤯
Yep ' too bad'.. but not for me: I hacked an interface into the DW-8000's VCF & VCA Sections and then piped 8 individual outputs of my Kurzweil K2500 as DSP Oscs Section into it and created my own Super-Hybrid with it. Essentially unlimited waveforms...
Such a shame the Modwave has digital filters. Korg missed a trick here!
I know! If Modwave had some analog it would have felt more connected to the DW series
Wow, this is amazing!
It's an incredible machine
Haha, I remember overwriting an amazing patch because some of the function keys on my DW8000 trigger twice when I press them.
Ugh that's so brutal 🤣
Great sound, very interesting video! Thanks a lot.
Thank you very much!
EDIT for my previous comment:
memory banks are 32, each with 16 different waveforms if wished. Here is the video:
th-cam.com/video/XyQyGtIZbSk/w-d-xo.html
Another guy hacked his DW-6000
so he enhanced the waveforms from stock 8 to 256, selectable by a knob!
th-cam.com/video/QS-4TLc8B60/w-d-xo.html
Poly mode 2 cuts off the release of each new note you play to prevent any voice stealing from occuring.
Ahhhhh thank you
@@VultureCulture NP! Lots of old Rolands, like the JP-6, offered this.
what is the name of this software to setup the synth ? thanks in advance, I had one, and it´s amazing , fat sounds
ctrlr.org/korg-dw-8000/
It's a free CNTRL editor for the dw-8000
@@VultureCulture thank you so much !
great stuff - and I haven't used my DW8000 for a long time because the aftertouch died - but to be honest, compared to say V-Synth aftertouch controller the DW8000 versions was very on/off with the ramp up and down very difficult to control in terms of slow/fast
Thank you for the info! I'm not surprised the aftertouch wasn't too great
@@VultureCulture do you know. Why it deteriorates ? My DW was left in storage for years - when I took it out battery needed replacement ....got that done but was told that the aftertouch was unresponsive (nothing to do with the battery replacement of course) and could not be resurrected. I’m guessing perishing of some sort - do you know if it can be fixed?
@@VultureCulturedo you know why it deteriorates ? My DW was left in storage for years - when I took it out battery needed replacement ....got that done but was told that the aftertouch was unresponsive (nothing to do with the battery replacement of course) and could not be resurrected. I’m guessing perishing of some sort - do you know if it can be fixed?
I know why Alan Wilder loved it ...
It really is glorious
Which synth can get darker? The DW or a Kawai Sx-210?
Unfortunately I have no experience with the Kawai Sx-210 so I can't say. The DW is generally considered the king of the 80's hybrids, along with the SQ-80.
Soooo cool :D
Thank you Justine! I appreciate you watching a synth video 🥰
I love my DW8000! What are you using to record? I've found that using my cheap basic Focusrite Scarlett introduces messy loss to the recording so my next move is to acquire maybe an Apollo?
What do you mean by messy loss?
I highly recommend not spending money on upgrading your preamps. The Scarlett should be more than fine for capturing the DW-8000.
@@VultureCulture it definitely captures fine and I dont necessarily need to upgrade, but when I record or monitor (when the signal goes to the computer) I can hear some fuzzy artifacts from what I assume is the d/a conversion process. When I plug my headphones directly into the synth I dont hear it. Not a big deal but I just want to learn some ways to record around the artifacts. Also I could be wrong and the artifacts could come from the old amps or something internal but I'm leaning towards the digital conversion
Huh that's bizarre. I would see if you could try some other I/o before you drop cash on something like that. It's more likely a problem with your 35-year-old synth than modern hardware, although you could have a bad interface, or a bad preamp in there.
Do you use the same output to record as with headphones? That might be your issue.
@@VultureCulture yea that would make sense if it was an internal issue, but i plug the headphones in straight into the port on the synth with no conversion, a different output than the output cables going into the scarlett, and the problem seems to disappear, so i think it’s the interface. i am hoping i could find some other recording device that minimizes the artifacts. maybe the apollo is overboard but ik there are ways to get your synth into your computer other than just a cheap interface. btw thank you for responding!
It sounds like you're comparing two different outputs on the synth, one for the headphones (with no artifacts) and one to the Scarlett (with artifacts). Have you tried recording directly from the headphone out?
It's most likely:
1. Bad outputs on the DW.
2. Faulty preamp in the Scarlett.
3. Bad DAC.
A bad DAC is going to sound like you put a bit crushing plugin on the output, lots of shrill, high frequency noise, not fuzzy in any way.
If you are hearing any artifacting it is not coming from a working Scarlett. If it's cheaper to replace your interface than repair it than by all means upgrade, but I would hate it if you spent all that money and still had the problem.
Here's a great video comparing a $900 preamp vs a $50 one: th-cam.com/video/qhm7cn7ZSbs/w-d-xo.html
They're not identical, but the difference is less than a little eq and maybe a saturation plugin can achieve.
Polysix doesnt have a noise gen.
It does not
@@VultureCulture this one does. 👍also I'm having difficulty getting the polysix to arp in sync but the dw8000 clocked really nice.
I used to own one of these. In my opinion it sounded better than the DX7 that dominated music back in the day because of that obnoxious electric piano patch. The DX7 is the most overrate synth in history.
Yeah the DW kills the DX7 in terms of sound!
killer... moar plz
I have a whole DW-8000 playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLZUsvzlelfZfIUj1W2MJ4h-D2hjkHZ6H0.html&si=bi4TMPdA-5ML60_L
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@@VultureCulture WET
Wavetables?? N9t so sure its wavetables. The waves are single cycle.
That is the original definition of a wavetable. A table that looks up waveforms. Nowadays we mostly mean it to mean a morphing wave.
@@VultureCulture theres no table... it's just waveforms.