Everyone LOVES to HATE new games | Throne and Liberty

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  • @Z-MACx
    @Z-MACx  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Hey guys! Thanks so much for watching the video. It’s getting A LOT of both positive and negative engagement which I think is great! I don’t mind the differing of opinions at all. And I know a lot of the dislikes are coming from people that have assumed my stance on Throne and Liberty, which I never stated by the way 😂. Anyways, if there’s one thing I’ve learned about TH-cam, for every dislike, there’s usually a couple people or more on the other side that strongly agree. So thank you to all those who enjoyed the video and subscribed to the channel! I’m thrilled to connect with those of you who want to see more positivity and optimism surrounding new games. Those are exactly the type of people I want to be a part of this channel and community! So a big welcome to all the new subscribers! 😊

  • @gingasvr
    @gingasvr 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I love throne and liberty, it’s such a fun MMORPG

    • @hpharold23
      @hpharold23 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Throne and Liberty: Dude, it's already P2Win all over. Pay to Skip, pay for gears, pay for upgrades, pay for instant boost, game mechanic is crap game loop is crap. Upgrading gears, equipments and skills is a slot machine gambling mechanic, disgustingly
      Devs are selling powerful items at Auction House, encouraging you to spend money on Lucent, bypassing P2W cash shop controversies.

    • @insurrection8744
      @insurrection8744 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hpharold23you’ve posted this above. We get it, the game isn’t for you. Move along. Don’t waste time here.

  • @arcturusmeow1290
    @arcturusmeow1290 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Im freaking loving TL. I played the sht out of wow and new world but his is a great mix of pve and pvp with gorgeous graphics too

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@arcturusmeow1290 dude I love to hear that! Thanks for taking the time to watch and leave a comment 😊

    • @hpharold23
      @hpharold23 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "Boiling Frog Syndrome "
      Throne and Liberty: Dude, it's already P2Win all over. Pay to Skip, pay for gears, pay for upgrades, pay for instant boost, game mechanic is crap game loop is crap. Upgrading gears, equipments and skills is a slot machine gambling mechanic, disgustingly
      Devs are selling powerful items at Auction House, encouraging you to spend money on Lucent, bypassing P2W cash shop controversies.

    • @hardc0l2e
      @hardc0l2e 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hpharold23 yeah a small part is P2W but end game and moving forward after level 50 to 70 (in korean server) it is more G2W (Guild to Win) yeah you can have a fancy/technically good gear or weapon from lucent, which only cost a lot playing solo or playing casual.. but when you're in solid guild and farming items from boss and auction for lucent.. it doesn't matter much anymore if your build your character via P2W or just grinding...

    • @hardc0l2e
      @hardc0l2e 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hpharold23 also those powerful items you mentioned on auction house is junk end-games

  • @NewbWorld
    @NewbWorld 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Yea, it's sad to watch tbh. I am a lot quicker to give up on a game than I was as a kid, mostly because I can afford to buy more, there's so much more options, especially free ones, and I don't have the time anymore to waste on a game that feels like it's wasting my time, but I just move on and find a new game.
    People now a days give up on a game before giving it a full go, and then proceed to trash the game like it's an unplayable piece of garbage.
    More people need to be able to accept that just because a game isn't for them, doesn't mean it's trash.
    There's plenty of games tons of people love that just doesn't grip me, and that's ok. There's more than enough games out there for me to enjoy.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NewbWorld exactly 💯
      Have you had the chance to try out TL yet? Yeah there’s P2W if you’re wanting to go hardcore PvP. But for casual pve, the world design is beautiful and leveling is actually quite enjoyable, although a little overwhelming at first

    • @NewbWorld
      @NewbWorld 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yea, I played the beta, it looks amazing, and it's a game I really want to get into, but I wasn't feeling it in the beta. I'm hoping it's because I knew progress wasn't kept, so I will try again when I am back from vacation to see if it feels better for me now.

  • @mr.otakubaka4169
    @mr.otakubaka4169 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Love the opening monolog, and I completely agree. Ppl seem too comfortable looking for the worst in games, ppl, life, etc. It reflects throughout life, like judicial systems claiming all is innocent until proven guilty but as long as the perception of something is shared by the majority, ppl & things are usually deemed guilty until proven innocent, bad until proven good, etc.

    • @hpharold23
      @hpharold23 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You wouldn't let someone disrespect you right? Same as Video games, you wouldn't want something to scum you or rub you from fun.
      Throne and Liberty: Dude, it's already P2Win all over. Pay to Skip, pay for gears, pay for upgrades, pay for instant boost, game mechanic is crap game loop is crap. Upgrading gears, equipments and skills is a slot machine gambling mechanic, disgustingly
      AH is very P2W Holy. Devs are selling powerful items at Auction House, encouraging you to spend money on Lucent, bypassing P2W cash shops controversies.
      "Boiling a frog syndrome"

    • @kevinsmith8076
      @kevinsmith8076 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah ever since young I’ve always found it confusing. It makes 0 sense.

  • @Dewulfi
    @Dewulfi 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    P2W and korean mobile game like progression systems just scare a lot of people away, simple as that.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think this is kind of my point. I’ve seen and played some of the P2W mobile Gacha games. TnL isn’t even in the same ballpark but people are assuming that it is

  • @EatMyVlogs
    @EatMyVlogs 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    On the other side of things I also think people love to jump on new waves. How many times have we seen MMO's come out to super high player counts only for the honeymoon period to end a month later and the game slowly but surely die out and become infested with bots? In recent memory I can name Lost Ark, New World and Tarisland as main examples. 2 of these games are published by one of the biggest companies in the world and still they flop. Now amazon try to add a 3rd MMO to the roster and in my honest opinion I just do not think its going to stick. It will have a decent player base for around 3-4 months maximum before dipping into the 10-20k range and being carried by the people with sunken cost/time fallacies.
    I hate to be negative but I also have realistic expectations for the future of gaming... We are in an age of quantity and speed over quality, we spend more than ever on mcx to boost the pockets of the CEO's of these huge companies all the while arguing online about the little things that don't matter.
    I have said this for a long time, players need to speak with their time, attention and wallets. Jumping onto the newest shiniest game cause everyone else is and your bored of the 1000 other games you have sitting on steam or your console doesn't make those games good, it just inflates numbers at the beginning and tells devs and investors this is the way things should be done cause look how much attention it got on the first day! Buying cod every year and complaining wont change a thing, but if a million people that bought the last cod said no to buying the next one I guarantee Activision would do something about it.
    I will keep my eye on T&L and will happily bet this comment will age like a fine wine.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@EatMyVlogs I appreciate that thoughtful response! You skillfully crafted and presented your opinion in a respectful, informed manner. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻😊

    • @lacydoe
      @lacydoe 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly! It’s not just games nowadays. Cars, iPhones, movies, tv shows is all the copy paste format. They have the masses in a headlock and we need to say that’s enough and hold on to our time and money. Then maybe they will be more innovative to earn our money and time.

  • @AMarin221
    @AMarin221 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Based Z-Mac. "Life belongs to optimists" is an excellent quote that really resonates with me.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AMarin221 Dude it’s SO true though! Did you know there were people questioning and criticizing Steve Jobs before he invented the iPhone? Imagine if he had listened to them. Optimists believe they can accomplish great things, pessimists believe that they can’t. In the end, they’re both right. Mindset is everything.
      Thanks so much for watching and leaving a comment. It really means a lot to me that quote resonated with you. 😊🙏🏻

  • @retroanime
    @retroanime 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    To be fair this game rocks

  • @Mr.Snrub86
    @Mr.Snrub86 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Opinions were pre-determined because it's a F2P Korean MMO and people have had negative experiences with those. It's not that deep.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Mr.Snrub86 the irony of this comment is too good. Thank you for driving home my main point 🙏🏻

    • @Mr.Snrub86
      @Mr.Snrub86 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Z-MACx Ok.
      I don't even have a horse in this race as I decided to hold off on trying T&L for now. I was just saying why people had pre-conceived notions about the game and that it's not so deep that you have to paint these people as jaded cynics or intellectually lazy.
      If the game is good enough (and fair enough) it will survive without this weak defense you're providing for it.
      Maybe that's what makes you so insecure about it. As an MMO it has to SURVIVE. I know the feeling of hoping my favourite MMO will survive. Makes you mad at the haters. Makes you rude to people that aren't fanboys.

    • @Mr.Snrub86
      @Mr.Snrub86 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Z-MACx According to my notifications you left another reply but it's not showing up in the comment thread so I can't read all of it. Stupid youtube.
      You're saying something about me proving your point again so I'm reluctant to say any more if I just keep proving your point. Long story short I was just saying that being wary of a type of thing because you've had negative experience with that type of thing is not the same as being a mindless critic.

    • @NickStrife
      @NickStrife 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@Mr.Snrub86Showering him with facts thus proving him wrong translates as "proving his point" in his head.
      This is a battle you cannot win with him. But don't worry. It doesn't matter what he thinks. The truth and objective facts always shine bright in the end.
      This game will end in 2-3 months like it happened in KR servers.

  • @duffno1
    @duffno1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I agree with you 100%. I have Trust issues so I don’t believe ANY criticism of games, movies or TV shows. I always try for self and make my own assessment. Half the gamers now are so whiny. EVERY Game that hits the market these fools are crying. Haters will Hate

  • @real_zerN
    @real_zerN 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Been watching streams about Throne & Liberty since before the global test and honestly the game has come very far and I've been enjoying playing it. As someone who played many other mmos like Final Fantasy 14, Guild Wars 2, Lost Ark, New World, Albion Online and the list goes on I can say that Throne & Liberty is by no means a bad game. Is there bad aspects to it yes 100% but every game has it but for the low low price of free honestly I can't complain. Is it the best mmo out there? No, by long shot. Is it fun with a few friends or solo? Yes, 100% as long as you have the time to spend on it and just figure out what the different systems of the game do. Now could you spend your time on other mmos that are free to play? Well yea thats up to you but the launch of an mmo is probably the most fun period of its lifetime and can't be replaced. So honestly as long as you got the storage and time to download and play the game I think its very much worth it to give it a shot and see if you enjoy it or not.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hey thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! Full new player experience video coming soon!

  • @bazfeen7287
    @bazfeen7287 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Well done I think you're going to be a massive Chanel man. Keep going

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey thanks so much! That’s a huge compliment. And thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! Full new player experience video coming soon!

  • @rellik6589
    @rellik6589 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    if the games that came out were good we wouldn’t have to hate on em 😂

  • @Deadweight88
    @Deadweight88 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe the best intro to a youtube vid talking about games. Could t agree more bro.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey thanks so much! And thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! Full new player experience video coming soon!

  • @PWReviews
    @PWReviews 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its the same for films and TV shows aswell. Its a sad world. Dont know why people search for the negatives, ofcourse people will find them if they look for it.
    Also, to add I am really enjoying your content and it is always very descriptive. I will take the time to try out Throne and Liberty soon, it does look fun, currently glued to Lotro at the moment and probably will be for the foreseeable but look forward to trying T&L out.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh dude. I know, it’s pretty much everywhere nowadays. You really have to make a conscious effort to not conform to a cynical way of thinking.
      And hey thanks so much! I’m glad you’ve been enjoying it. LOTRO is great! It’s one of those games I really want to spend more time in because there’s so much depth and complexity to the lore and story. Unfortunately, I don’t want the channel to get boxed into any one game so I had to make the difficult decision of moving on (for now). Maybe after TL & NWA die down a bit, I’ll have some free time to explore middle earth a bit more. Thanks again for you support! Means a lot

    • @PWReviews
      @PWReviews 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@Z-MACx Very welcome! Plus I do understand, it's nice to show a variety of content and it's fun to watch/hear about. I really enjoy MMO games and hearing about new upcoming or current ones. I have also been enjoying New World a lot. I took a little break after the June announcement but I'm quite excited to jump back in for Aternum and start on a new server with all the console players and also delve more into the crafting system as it was something I skipped before.
      Something about NW has got a similar feeling to LOTRO for me. It's just very easy and fun to run around and explore. It hasn't got the longjevity of LOTRO currently or lore but I think the Land of New world and the music is quite comforting to explore similar to LOTRO. I don't know if that makes sense but whenever I want a little break from Lotro, New world for me fills that need I think.

  • @TheSevenFight
    @TheSevenFight 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree with the things u saying in the video but the main core of problem for this game is a little bit different (and i think many people who hate the game don't know about it or simply don't care, hard to tell). Main reason is a lot of people know in what direction this game is heading. i play MMORPGs since i was 6 or 7 i believe. I played many NCSoft titles like Lineage, WildStar, Guild Wars 2 or Blade & Soul. Besides GW2 none of them survive the test of time simply because of greedy nature of this company. Game itself is awesome and have potential to be really good on the market but people who played NCSoft games these past 15 years know exactly how is it going to end. Game is popular right now and people seem to like it so it may survive like 2 maybe 3 years but at some point it's going to be a downfall and many players will hit the wall of reality. Monetization is going to be so predatory and mandatory to survive in this game that only those who spent thousands of hours will stay and the rest will move on to find a new MMORPG to play. So IMO the game itself is super fun, enjoyable to play and have a potential but mark my words, it will be ruined at some point because it's NCSoft :).

  • @cit9915
    @cit9915 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Constructive criticism, the game has more weaknesses than strengths.

    • @hpharold23
      @hpharold23 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Most gamers now these days are crap because of players willingness to ignore and tolerate scummy and predatory practices. It called " Boiling a frog syndrome"

  • @aelisif
    @aelisif 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I tried it, but the gameplay is too clunky for me. Nice graphics though

  • @menaceflame
    @menaceflame 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I play moba games in my phone and this is just a moba game hybrid action skill mmorpg which is okay. Although I like New World combat

  • @neverendlessgaming
    @neverendlessgaming 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think it's also linked to current young generation state. If the could only for a day live what we ha with commodore 64 or Amiga 500...😂
    😅...all the actual game would be always awesome and loved😂. There are strengths and weaknesses in all, in life, in videogames. Just be patient and balanced...and think twice before write...😂. Once again congrats for your 1000!

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@neverendlessgaming hey neverendless! Exactly thanks so much. And YES! We did it! So pumped that we made it 😊😎

    • @neverendlessgaming
      @neverendlessgaming 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Z-MACx well deserved. And as you may recall I said some months ago... it's only the begging!

  • @TheNanofiber
    @TheNanofiber 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But the game has been released for years in Korea. They removed a small part of the pay to win but the core is still there. If you don't mind swiping or being face rolled by big guilds that will gatekeep content sure play the game. Deesnt cost anything to try it. It will be fun for a month or two.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah that’s how I’m looking at it. I’m not judging the game for what it will be in a month or two, but rather what it is for me right now.
      Hey thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! Full new player experience video coming soon!

  • @NickStrife
    @NickStrife 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "it's bot our fault the game is bad, it's the toxic gamers' fault"
    - Ubisoft

  • @meliodasx3482
    @meliodasx3482 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This video is so good and true
    I was about to quit throne and liberty cus ppl were saying is p2w and a lot bad stuff but I decide to play at my own pace getting stronger lil by lil and im enjoying it a lot

    • @hpharold23
      @hpharold23 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Boiling Frog Syndrome
      It's like this, If you've been eating crap all your life, then you would think crap actually tastes great. People who complain that crap tatse bad and terrible know how good Steaks are.Throne and Liberty: Dude, it's already P2Win all over. Pay to Skip, pay for gears, pay for upgrades, pay for instant boost, game mechanic is crap game loop is crap. Upgrading gears, equipments and skills is a slot machine gambling mechanic, disgustingly
      Devs are selling powerful items at Auction House, encouraging you to spend money on Lucent, bypassing P2W cash shop controversies.

    • @meliodasx3482
      @meliodasx3482 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hpharold23 well I’m new on mmrpg so probably that’s why I find it fun, what other mmrpg would you recommend me then ? Something that isn’t pw2

  • @derekfreeman1942
    @derekfreeman1942 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For It's bad bro. The movement and combat killed it in the tutorial for me I also don't like the skills and how it feels targeting things . If the movement / targeting and combat don't feel good to me im not interested. It feels worse than LOTRO to me I play LOTRO lol I'm not saying the games garbage but it isn't for me. I don't like the stuff I didn't like being the combat/targeting and movement feels awkward to play I might give it another chance but I'll have to heavily edit and customize stuff

  • @MikeBeltMikeBelt
    @MikeBeltMikeBelt 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This kind of attitude is everywhere anymore. You can't go into a forum post, Reddit, or TH-cam comment section without people that are obviously trying to troll people. Is it a mental disorder? A cry for attention? Cool thing to hate something? It's just disgusting to literally see it everywhere.

  • @Alienvibeguy
    @Alienvibeguy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ppl have hit dopamine highs that no game will be good enough. Yesterday I imagined playing Diablo 2 for the first time (absolutely amazed as a teenager) but imagine if The First Descendent came out then, it'd blow me away just as much. "endgame" wasn't even a thought or even in the conversation back then cuz it didn't matter. Was the game fun? Yes? Ok cool keep playing or switch games. So I guess I'm just saying I've personally enjoyed every game for what they offer for the amount of time i enjoy it no matter what the herd is saying.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s a great mentality! Thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! Full new player experience video coming soon!

  • @larkendelvie
    @larkendelvie 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is never enough content in any game. I consider a game purchase to have been fantastic if I've gotten an hour of entertainment for each dollar spent. Really folks expect way too much for what games cost these days. That's not to say that there aren't some real duds out there but it basically means it's up to each of us to do our homework. Have I wasted money in the past -- yep (I especially hate it when MMOs change publishers and go downhill) but truly most of my MMO games are just moth balled because I'm tired/bored with them. For example New World -- I quit playing sometime early 2022 and then got a new computer a year later and didn't reinstall it. Now with the new beta I've gotten excited again and am looking forward to another 6 months or so of fun.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      YES! I’ve spoken about this with some close friends. Gamers are SO SPOILED when it comes to cost per mile for entertainment. My wife loves books. It takes her probably 6 hours or so to read one of her fantasy romance novels and it cost around $25. Now compare that to video games where you pay any where from free to $60 for hundreds if not thousands of hours of fun. We’re paying pennies per hour for our hobby. Everyone wants better games but they don’t want to pay developers the funds they need to pull it off. I wish more people understood that. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment 😊

  • @mikenym84
    @mikenym84 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I was playing last night and someone was in chat for an hr complaining about the game. My guy, why are you online spamming chat about why you hate to be here? It's crazy lol

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mikenym84 exactly!! Same thing happens in just about every online game you play nowadays unfortunately 😭

    • @hpharold23
      @hpharold23 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Boiling a frog syndrome; learn it

    • @SlamDance87
      @SlamDance87 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Z-MACxcuz they all are half baked bullshit undercooked drip fed dogshit when if they spent a lil more time on the game and and some passion it could be the greatest mmo ever made but it’s just a mobile game cash grab for retards

    • @SlamDance87
      @SlamDance87 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not to mention other shit like wow guild wars 2 souls series baldursgate are setting the bar high they used to make games for gamers now they cater to eveyone and the game is medioker at best been the trend for 10 years

  • @SoKewlify
    @SoKewlify 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good video, keep at it

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks so much! I appreciate it

  • @Willjoestar
    @Willjoestar 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not familair with nexom, couple them with amazon as a publisher im telling u it wont age well !

  • @DirtCheapFU
    @DirtCheapFU 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loving to hate new games isnt the issue. It is, what it seems, every content creator NEEDING to punch up or punch down to attract attention. Because... drama sells.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hmmm I see the most negativity/toxicity on gaming subreddits which are mostly your average Joe gamers. I agree content creators add fuel to the fire but they typically just feed viewers what THEY want to hear.
      Either way thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! Full new player experience video coming soon!

  • @iMrDel
    @iMrDel 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Haven't played the game yet as i'm on holiday, however, the sentiment of this vid was a breath of fresh air in the current way most YT vids go of just bashing games, good job dude 👍🏽

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! And thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! Full new player experience video coming soon!

  • @OrphanCrippler1
    @OrphanCrippler1 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im loving this game so far. ALMOST feels like an old school mmo. Almost.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      “Almost….” 😂 Hey thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! Full new player experience video coming soon!

  • @ruydecarvalho3927
    @ruydecarvalho3927 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    100% correct this is why the term toxicity exists in the gaming industry and within communities because the sheep will always be sheep and there will always be a few negative toxic whinging babies who the sheep then follow

  • @WildRift-sd8ku
    @WildRift-sd8ku 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This game is not for me , I feel bored playing it and imo the world itself is empty. I play MMORPG in order to explore that mmorpg world like how i explore the world of WoW, BDO, Perfect world etc.

  • @RobbinnDaHood
    @RobbinnDaHood 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think the reason for people being very critical is there are too many good games (with games also being pricey) and too little time to play them for people to be bothered with games that are anything short of excellent. Wrap that up into micro transaction hell in the MMO space in the west, and people will have little tolerance for it.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s a great point! Though I think a common theme I’ve seen with those types of gamers that expect “perfection” is the inability to enjoy games that don’t meet their “standards”. And as the games that don’t meet their standards pile up, they grow increasingly cynical about video games as a whole.
      Imo, it’s better to recognize and enjoy those really special games for what they were, but to go into the next game with a more open mind and not comparing all other video games to that same standard. Just because you can’t enjoy the next AS MUCH as that special one, doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it at all. You know what I mean?

    • @NickStrife
      @NickStrife 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​​@@Z-MACxMMOs are huge time investments. You bet I am looking for "perfection" or at least "near perfection". Of course I do.
      There is something more important than money and it's called "time". Not going to waste mine on a classic "boil the frog" P2W game, which I won't enjoy after a few weeks.

  • @frapal9361
    @frapal9361 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    TnL is very good for many different aspects, it has amazing graphics and cool mechanics, good questing and leveling, huge amount of content from day 1. In all honesty is an amazing mmo, the problem is the combat, it's just boring and not engaging, it feels terrible, and I am so sorry about that because that's a deal breaker for me.

    • @rat1223
      @rat1223 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Everyone using "the combat" in TnL as a copout for why they dislike the game are kidding themselves. The only thing holding it back is the grindy gear progression. Combat is 8+/10 and a solid foundation for a new MMO, but the fact that you only get a couple chances a day to get rewards in a dungeon is ass.

    • @NickStrife
      @NickStrife 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@rat1223 No man they just don't like it and that's it. End of story.
      Good games receive praise. Bad games receive the opposite. It's not rocket science.
      It's 8+/10 for you. For me it's 2-/10 at best. And the real deal breaker is the endless senseless grind + P2W aspects.
      There is no "copoout" here, just a bad product.

    • @frapal9361
      @frapal9361 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rat1223 No man, I'm am not using "combat" as an excuse. If I enjoyed the combat I would have played it. Maybe on pc is good, idk, I played it on console and the combat was very bad. Regarding the gear progress and pay to win aspects I also don't know, I didn't reach that point and therefore I cannot have an opinion about that

  • @SodoMojo22
    @SodoMojo22 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Social Media has brought out all the complainers and given them an audience.
    I miss the days when reviews of games, movies, etc. were done objectively.
    You nailed a lot of key items in this vid...grats on 1k, well deserved.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey thanks so much man! 100% agree with you. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 😊

    • @EatMyVlogs
      @EatMyVlogs 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would agree with you if it wasn't for the egregious sponsorships people get nowadays for games. No one's opinion is truly their own anymore, its all about the views, money and sales.

    • @hpharold23
      @hpharold23 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Boiling Frog Syndrome
      It's like this, If you've been eating crap all your life, then you would think crap actually tastes great. People who complain that crap tatse bad and terrible know how good Steaks are.Throne and Liberty: Dude, it's already P2Win all over. Pay to Skip, pay for gears, pay for upgrades, pay for instant boost, game mechanic is crap game loop is crap. Upgrading gears, equipments and skills is a slot machine gambling mechanic, disgustingly
      Devs are selling powerful items at Auction House, encouraging you to spend money on Lucent, bypassing P2W cash shop controversies.

  • @nicholasasker7777
    @nicholasasker7777 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't like the game but I still think it's good. In my opinion all of the weapons in the game are boring so I couldn't get into it. But I think I could definitely get into it a year or two from now.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! Full new player experience video coming soon!

  • @oeterrero1758
    @oeterrero1758 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    TL is so freaking fun. I’m in my own anime world 😅

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you’re enjoying it! thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! Full new player experience video coming soon!

  • @vladch2016
    @vladch2016 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This game is trash. Action house is limited to level 40 and you can't even sell materials. No way to to get blue lithograph to craft blue gear and no battleground que.

  • @LordRabbit06
    @LordRabbit06 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s ok. But the combat is trash

    • @YSEternal_
      @YSEternal_ 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How so?

  • @drolay2
    @drolay2 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think this is not really the case good games always get a ton of praise. There is a good reason people are shitting on TL, the combat is shit and the p2w is not the worst ever but pretty bad. It's not because it's popular to hate games it's because the game just isn't that good.

  • @ToadieBog
    @ToadieBog 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's just boring. The combat is weird and bland. Somewhat low fantasy. It just doesn't bring anything really interesting to the table

    • @Jezza_One
      @Jezza_One 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love the combat system, the MSQ is good fun and IMO its not boring. The P2W stuff is awful though.

  • @muhr9504
    @muhr9504 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Have to disagree here. I would say nobody loves to hate new games.
    The only reason people would hate a new game is either they belong to the "modern audience" or follow a specific political agenda. Or maybe the game was just awful...concord...
    Also there is a reason to hate a game if the publisher is already the worst. Just look at Ubisoft...
    I like TL so far, but I understand why somebody would be angry with the launch 😂

  • @DisturbedMephit
    @DisturbedMephit 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amen my NW brotha!

  • @astronomerblankman
    @astronomerblankman 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gamers haven't lost anything. The only people that dump on games in the way you are describing are the TH-cam reviewers that rely on impulse clicks to get views. Also, many games have become profit driven vehicles focusing on microtransactions and that is because gaming became popular to the point that the corporate machine has taken over and if a game is focusing on that aspect and is maybe 20 percent good then you got to call a spade a spade. Games are released half-finished or broken and it's up to us to call out those companies. If a game is good, then I think it will be reviewed as so. What the real question is: "Do I want to give this company my money"? Buy a game that's half finished then they will continue to release games like that. I don't think there are cynics and optimists only. I believe there are many shades of grey. Also, every review I ever saw gave both positive and negative information about a game. I have never seen an all-negative review. If there is such a thing then I would hardly call that reviewer a critic. Just my 2 cents and thanks for taking the time to make this video. I look forward to checking more out!

  • @Rudeuslul
    @Rudeuslul 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I bet if WoW came out in 2024 everyone would hate it. People love to hate new games nowadays been having a ton of fun in Throne and Liberty dont get me wrong its not perfect but its pretty good imo.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Rudeuslul 💯 Not a doubt in my mind.

  • @hpharold23
    @hpharold23 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Boiling a frog syndrome: Your intro is already flawed. Gamers don't hate new video games. Gamers hate bad, scummy and predatory video game. Gamers loved Black myth Wukong, Palworld, Boulders Gate 3, Space marine 2 etc... Your whole narrative is already flawed.
    Throne and Liberty: Dude, it's already P2Win all over. Pay to Skip, pay for gears, pay for upgrades, pay for instant boost, game mechanic is crap game loop is crap. Upgrading gears, equipments and skills is a slot machine gambling mechanic, disgustingly
    AH is very P2W Holy. Devs are selling powerful items at Auction House, encouraging you to spend money on Lucent, bypassing P2W cash shops controversies.

    • @hpharold23
      @hpharold23 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You wanna know why games are bad now these days? Because of gamers willingness to accept Bad games practices. It started with mobile games and their predatory scummy gambling slot machine gameplay and now that it has soo popular, thanks to gamers supporting this bad games practices that we hare here today. If you've been fed crap food all your life and never tasted steak. You would think crap actually taste good. But, people criticizing crap food knows the taste of good quality food like Steak.

  • @Laszlothevampire
    @Laszlothevampire 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah true but with this game it's true. I'm surprised they don't charge you just to boot it up.

  • @rat1223
    @rat1223 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    T&L is good and people calling it P2W probably haven't even installed it.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it’s better than most people are giving it credit. And there is some P2W but it’s only for those who are looking to get involved with hardcore PvP

  • @cranknnutz
    @cranknnutz 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's mostly due to content creators and people not being able to think for themselves anymore. Content creators start out by overhyping games before they release. So their viewer's expectations are super high. Then days after the game comes out there is a flood of negative videos because that's what gets the views. They compare brand new games to other games that have been out for 5, 10, 15+ years.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh dude, the comparison of new games to 15 year old games irks me so much lol. When people say “Well ‘x’ has way more content…” it’s just like DUDE. Of course it does! It’s been out for over 10 years lol. If people started playing newer games, they might have that amount of content and more by the time they reach a 10 year anniversary lol

    • @hpharold23
      @hpharold23 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The opposite, it's like you've been fed crap all this time and hasn't tasted Steak. So you kept thinking of yourself this crap is actually good. Most people that criticize crap knows the taste of a good Steak. Most gamers now these days are crap because of players willingness to ignore and tolerate scummy and predatory practices. It called " Boiling a frog syndrome"

    • @cranknnutz
      @cranknnutz 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hpharold23 So is Ashes of Creation going to be steak or crap? Right now AoC content creators got everyone riding the hype train thinking it'll be the best game ever. Until a month after its release and they'll dump all over it. For the views! Don't you ever get tired of that cycle? Scummy/predatory games are one thing, but the hate is usually around gameplay, content, or other things that are easily fixable over time.

    • @lacydoe
      @lacydoe 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cranknnutzwhy should the gaming community beg for things that should already been in a game to begin with. It’s 2025 almost and it seems like we are getting less and less af a game and have to wait for an update. How about I give you $20 and the other $50 when you finish. MMOs have been around for a really long time, it’s no excuse for how this game plays. Who makes up these story modes? It’s lame and all you want to do is skip it. At least make an interesting story for me to follow if you’re not going to anything else diff than the rest.

  • @khaterine-v5q
    @khaterine-v5q 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    To be fair.....its pretty terrible.

    • @iMrDel
      @iMrDel 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      And that would be your opinion, however

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iMrDelexactly 💯

    • @hpharold23
      @hpharold23 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@iMrDel
      I mean, you don't have to be blind to see it. Unless your been boiling into that frog soup for long.
      Throne and Liberty: Dude, it's already P2Win all over. Pay to Skip, pay for gears, pay for upgrades, pay for instant boost, game mechanic is crap game loop is crap. Upgrading gears, equipments and skills is a slot machine gambling mechanic, disgustingly
      Devs are selling powerful items at Auction House, encouraging you to spend money on Lucent, bypassing P2W cash shop controversies.

    • @nathaliemiasanch2525
      @nathaliemiasanch2525 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@hpharold23 "devs" that's how I know u braindead lol

    • @smellybearc7411
      @smellybearc7411 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      To be fair…Recommend an mmorpg to me that feels like an mmorpg from the 1990’s

  • @kylekelley3090
    @kylekelley3090 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For me it just felt like black desert (mobile). I never played New World so I’m looking forward to Aerernum after the beta, and this just didn’t hold my interest at all.

  • @NickStrife
    @NickStrife 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So we are defending P2W now and we blame people who want to make an educated decision on which game they want to spend their precious time on, thus labeling this healthy behaviour as "playing a game like a critic".
    Worst video I have ever seen in my life.

    • @Moinsen15
      @Moinsen15 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What is wrong with you? The point of the video basically is: Instead of shitting on a game constantly try it out, than decide for yourself whether you like it or not. If you do not like move on and stop spreading negativity.

    • @NickStrife
      @NickStrife 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Moinsen15 No if I trust the person reviewing it I won't even try it. Also, if I try it and I don't like it I will warn any person from buying it or spending their time on it. End of story.

    • @Moinsen15
      @Moinsen15 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NickStrife I see your points and these are verry valid for sure. I just feel like many people are not giving TL a fair chance (if you do not like, sure you can let your friends etc know). I for example was not expecting much from TL and I tried it and was pleasantly surprised.

    • @NickStrife
      @NickStrife 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Moinsen15 Sure you do you. How old are you approximately if you don't mind me asking?

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey even though we disagree, I’d say creating the worst video you’ve ever seen in your life is quite the accomplishment! Someone has to hold that title so it might as well be me 😎
      Thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! Full new player experience video coming soon!

  • @DblTapSlapMcGap
    @DblTapSlapMcGap 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Criticism is suppose to be a constructive force to make things better, not dissuade someone else from liking it. One thing to consider to is that expectation increases every year. There is an expectation for an evolution of gaming and progress in each release. The hive mentality is absolutely real and degenerate. It destroyed new world. I have so many people who haven't played telling me all the issues with the game. How can they know they didn't play? The first two months of NW still haunt it to this day because of hive mind opinion. When it comes to TL one thing they did will is optimization. The graphics are good especially for how many players on one screen. Other then that though they really failed to do anything new. So a lot of its critsism is going to come from that expectation of evolution. I waited two years to only play for two days. I am going to hop back on and try a again. But it has ESO combat, its tab target, and the grind before PVP is extremely long. Especially since the Main Story quest doesn't have enough content to go from 1-50. The side quests are why I haven't logged back on. Should others not play it because of why I don't? No. Critism is suppose to exist as feedback system to make things better not to make the decision for someone else whether not they will enjoy it.

    • @Z-MACx
      @Z-MACx  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DblTapSlapMcGap well said friend. I appreciate the thoughtful response! Yeah the hive mind surrounding new world is tragic. So many people still misled or misinformed about the current state of the game. And it’s clear that you’ve played TL and come to your own conclusion which I totally respect. Im still trying to play through the game and reach my own final conclusion, but I can assure you I don’t think it’s nearly as bad as many people are saying.

    • @DblTapSlapMcGap
      @DblTapSlapMcGap 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Z-MACx I agree its definitely not bad its a classic mmo archetype. For me that is what is the turn off. But for others who want the classic mmo with updated graphics and optimization it would be a great time. I am going to try it again with expectation reflecting what kind of game it is and not with the expectation of what i want. The one criticism I wish I could share with the devs is the msq having gaps that you need to grind side quests is a huge obstacle in me getting to end game. If I don't get to end game there is no chance I will spend money. So that could be something that would be favorable for the devs as well as the player.