Jimmy Bruno talks about the dinner with…Frank Zappa, Tommy Tedesco, John Pisano, & Joe Pass.
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- Photo from the left to right - Tommy Tedesco, Jack Ranelli, unknown (sorry), Charlie Chiarenza (guitarist and owner of the Pasta Amici restaurant), John Pisano, Frank Zappa, and Joe Pass. On this particular night, Jimmy Bruno was playing with Tommy Tedesco and Joe Pass… Tommy and Jimmy would play regularly on Tuesday nights at the Pasta Amici (one of Tommy Tedesco’s favorite restaurants). BTW - that’s Tommy’s 1956 Gibson ES-175. Awesome photo by Jimmy Bruno!
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Back in the day, Zappa had (at least) two different audiences. There were the non-musicians who just liked all the goofy subject matter of his tunes. Then there were the musicians, particularly the drummers, who were really astonished by what players like Terry Bozzio, and especially Vinnie Colaiuta, could do on their instrument in response to the unusual demands that Zappa put on his musicians. Then, underneath that, by reading more about Zappa, and as revealed in some of his interviews, you can see a guy who was at heart an avant garde classical composer. He admired Varese and Stravinksy. In some ways much of the rock stuff was a vehicle to, in a way prototype, and then to finance, his orchestral projects, on which he spent more time later in his career. He was a very interesting fellow, and it's a shame he died so young.
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His third (and largest) audience is a combination of all of the above. It happens over time. The deeper you go, the deeper it gets..
@@lesrankin1767 True that! Thanks for watching and for your input! Please feel free to Like, Share and Subscribe to our channel.
Zappa was also exceedingly brilliant at articulating the bullhsit of the music industry and politics
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Everyone who met Frank was surprised by how polite, quietly spoken, considerate, listening to everything-you-had-to-say and responding to it.
It’s why I get mad with fans who act and speak aggressively thinking they are emulating Frank and they are way off beam.
Max Bennett said Frank was a tough task master, but always a gentleman.
@@sealisa1398 Yes, I think that's a good summary.
That photo is priceless so good...just timeless musician...Zappa and Tedesco
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All Italians in the room & great
musicians all around!!!
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Zappa's mom was part French 😉
Jimmy changed my life one time when I heard him on public radio. I contacted him and went for a lesson. It was priceless. He's a super good guy.
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Would you expand on that experience. Where did you go for the lesson? To his house? How did you contact him and how did he reply? How long did the lesson take, and why did he do it? It's so unusual for him to take time away from his own work.
@@paulinebutcherbird Maybe next time we can ask some of this...
@@jazzguitartoday Yes, please.
No surprise whatsoever to see Zappa hanging with that crowd. Such impactful musicians as George Duke, the Brecker Brothers, Jean-Luc Ponty and many others had long stints in his band.
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Wow Jean-Luc Ponty............found him in early 80s........never see anyone bring him up........respect
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It really is no surprise. Most if not all forms of music, Zappa had covered. Acid rock to musique concrete and everything in between. He could hang out, and did, with a diverse multitude of musicians and singers.
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Imagine to have lost these friends who were giants among musicians.
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Wow, extremely interesting musical history. Cool to hear that Zappa sat in with those guys too!
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A big surprise to me, too because it was so unusual for him to go out to socialise with anyone. He never hung out with rock stars.
Jimmy Bruno is such an entertaining story-teller.
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My aunt knew Mrs. Tedesco and at one of her functions at the church, my brother and I got to meet Tommy Tedesco. He was really nice and humble and surprised both of us were geeked out by him. This was when he had his Gig Rundown column in Guitar Player Magazine. He even traded picks! I'll never forget it.
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I was just learning how to play guitar then, but I was fascinated by Tommy’s column and read it religiously. I may be misremembering this, but wasn’t Tommy Tedesco’s column in GP mag called “Studio Log”?
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Could very well have been. Forty plus years ago. I'm the fuzzy one probably.
@@johnphelan9102 I loved reading that. Didn't really understand any of it, and still don't, but I loved it.
Jimmy Bruno. The best steel string guitar player I have ever heard. Thanks Jimmy for coming to Wrexham UK and teaching us duffers a thing or two. Altered dominant chords will always be 7ths with ‘hair on top’ for me now.
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A great story from a great guitar player and storyteller. So much talent at one table. Mr. Bruno is one of a kind. Thanks for the download.
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This is great! Thanks!
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Very cool video. Thanks for posting!
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Thanks so much for this interview - inspiring talk and interesting to hear the dynamics between Jimmy Bruno, Frank Zappa, and Joe Pass. Best from PA
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love it!!
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Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good interview! 😁🎼🎶🎵
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Glad to see Jimmy is doing okay and that the basement/bunker survived the recent flooding in Pennsylvania.
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@@jazzguitartoday I just remembered all the times he laughed about the plumber who worked on the “stump pump “ in the bunker
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Great interview Jimmy! I still remember how gracious you were when I auditioned for Wayne Newton back in 1980. You are a legend and class act my friend. Glad to see you doing well.
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I would have loved to be a fly on the wall, hearing what went on between Zappa, Joe and the rest of them. There's lots of jazz and modern classical in Zappa's music, but he was basically a blues-based rock player.
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Do not agree, at all. He was so much more.
@@gertlettorp3137 It looks like I accidentally truncated my comment above. The rest of it should read "he was basically a blues-based rock guitarist". That's just a comment on his guitar playing. He did try to reach beyond that as a guitarist, being surrounded by good jazz soloists a lot of the time, and he sometimes played some fairly "outside" notes, to use jazz terminology, as well as being very idiosyncratic rhythmically, so he definitely had his own style going. He was also a melodic player and searched for melodies when playing live. But the basis of his playing style was informed by blues players like Johnny Guitar Watson, Clarence Gatemouth Brown, etc. Of course, FZ was primarily a composer and all-round musician who just happened to play guitar. His son, Dweezil, is maturing very nicely as a guitarist.
Ok. 😁
@@pallhe Glad you expanded on that.
❤love love Jimmy Bruno
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Oh to have been that proverbial fly on the wall that eve.
And I loved their food!
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I have heard other musicians say that Zappa didn't use drugs or alcohol at all and wouldn't retain musicians in his band that did. Christ, to hear some of his stuff he didn't need to. Fine guitar player and composer.
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His anti drug stance was mainly about staying out of jail and not having to deal with band members getting arrested. He spent some time in jail for something related to pot back in his pornography days and he never wanted to go back.
@@iunnox666 Interesting. Thanks for watching and for your input! Please feel free to Like, Share and Subscribe to our channel.
@@iunnox666 Zappa's jail time was unrelated to drugs; it was a result of making a cheesy "porn tape" - audio only - for a stag party at the request of an undercover police officer. Frank's "pornography days" were pretty much limited to the coupla hours he spent on that tape.
@@jwc3o2 Ah, thanks. I wasn't clear on the details of that event. Either way, that's why he was so anti drug with his band.
"It sounds like bees." 😂😂😂 Love it!
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I’m not particularly amazed that Zappa sat in on the jazz standard “Lover Man.”
Anyone who has read up on him through the decades will remember an interview in which he said how much he liked a particular rendition of the song.
I’m talking about the record featuring Wes Montgomery and his brothers.
This was before Wes had all his commercial crossover hits.
And it indeed was a fantastic rendition.
I bought that record before reading the Zappa interview and I also recognized just how great that version was.
I remember subsequently being pleased to know that Frank and I to some extent had a similar appreciation of a certain style of jazz guitar.
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Frank played jazz tunes for a while in the early 60s.
What a great picture. All these guys were friends of my late father, jazz vocalist Jay Salerno.
Charlie's rug was legendary.
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Saluto dalla Sicilia......top
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American National Treasures in that photo. Amazing.
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too bad Zappa no longer around but I came to this video because I was looking into Joe Pass (the truckdriver) and John Pisano. John Pisano is still alive I think (at the time of writing)
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Lot’s of Italians in those photos! Ron Anthony was in one photo too. These guitar giants were all in Los Angeles, and there were many others, Howard Roberts, Ted Greene, Lenny Breau. If you like jazz guitar, it would be difficult to find a more exciting scene. John Kernick, Dennis Budomir, Barry Zweig, I could keep going. . . . Really the golden age of jazz guitar, all in Los Angeles, much of it in the San Fernando Valley.
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Yes, indeed. I don't know what it is, but there is high percentage of great guitarist with Italian sur names. It's amazing. Jimmy Bruno says that it's because the imigrants from Italy, were poor, and they all had an instrument (I think guitars) that they would play and sing with. So, there's a tradition, there, according to Jimmy. I suspect that it's more than that. I would suspect a genetic connection. The formal written music notation language is in Italian (Andante, Allegro, Fortissimo, etc.) There is strong connection between the Italians and music and fine art in general (Michelangeo, Da Vinci, etc.) I don't know that there is a genetic connection, but it wouldn't surprise me if there is. These guys give the world, not only beautiful music, but also a high water mark to strive for in music and art. Couple this with Italian wine makers, and you're got an extremely powerful cultural force.
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@@jazzguitartoday Definitely ! Thanks for hosting your channel. I appreciate your work, and your enthusiasm.
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I love a good story .. one of the benefits of ahem, “advancing age”. Btw; sure Tommy Tedesco I learned was integral 2 the Wrecking Crew, FrankZappa’s hilariously titled Shaddup-n-Play-Yer-Gtr I’ve got on vinyl .. lucky lucky .. Joe Pass sheesh, a jazz gtr inspiration 4 me, a mere schmear enthusiast. John Pisano I know as the gtrst outa Herb Alpert’s 60s TJB .. only just appreciating how much across the jazz scene he is himself. Keep the stories rolling .. I usedta start sessions with my students with a good story .. & b rewarded with beers & snacks🥜🍻😉👌
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Jazz, Zappa and pizza
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Now, that's entertainment !
@@KenTeel yes!
An old school jazz cat with a Dan Wesson guns cap...Love it...
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The frustrating part about this interview is the interviewer asked Jimmy if Frank could solo through jazz chord changes, but when Jimmy tried to answer, the interview kept interuppting Jimmy, so that he couldn't answer the question. What got "lost in the sauce" in this interview, is Jimmy's answer to that question.
I'd say the answer is no. Zappa studied 20th century avant guarde classical, blues, R&B, Doo Wop, and 50s rock n roll but I've never heard him mention jazz. Except that it smells funny... :D
Yes, unfortunately Bob Baker does tihs in all his interviews. Many great people and in general good questions, but often interupts their answers and responses.
@@55vermeer I wonder what Jimmy was referring to when he said that Zappa played jazz? I'm guessing that Zappa knew the chords to a couple of jazz standards. Somehow I doubt that Frank was much of an soloist when it came to jamming over the chord changes. With his own music, he could figure out some weird notes to play, but soloing over standards sounds like it was out of Zappa's league. Afterall, he was a rock and roll guy, basically. I think that he did a little bit of fusion stuff (kind of messin' around with odd sounding notes.) I wish that I could have heard Jimmy's full answer. In summary, I suspect that you are right, Hippolyte. It's curious that Frank would want to associate with people who were so much more advanced in their guitar playing and knowledge of music theory. I'd think that he would have felt a bit intimidated. But, Frank was a man of substantial ego, so maybe not.
@@KenTeel Sounds to me like Zappa just used the Dorian mode with chromatic notes thrown in. After Hot Rats he started playing faster and faster and it got boring to me. He really wasn't melodic enough to play jazz IMO.
This is/was on John McLaughlin's website:
Q: What do you think about the late Frank Zappa's criticism of your work as simply "operating a guitar like a machine gun?" Do you think that Zappa was right when he said that the whole trend in the music business was that faster is better?
John McLaughlin: I think he was just jealous! I toured with Frank, and while I've always enjoyed his recordings, on tour he would take very, very long guitar solos, and he just didn't have what it takes to play long guitar solos. That said, he has every right to his opinions, and in earlier days, I'm sure he had some validity in his criticisms of my playing.
Frank was crazy, first of all, but a very good musician. I have to remind you that I am a fan of The Mothers of Invention since 1966, their first album.
Do you know this album, 'Freak Out!'? The minute I heard this album, I am a fan of Frank Zappa. Of course, years later I met him but... two things:
1) He was a very good musician but he was a dictator in his band, I'm sorry to say. (Laughs) Plus, he was not only a dictator, but he was taking very long guitar solos. 10-15 minute guitar solos and really he should have taken two or three-minute guitar solos, because they were a little bit boring.
2) He was very interesting as a human being and a very interesting composer.
I would have like to be a fly on the wall behind.😎👍🎸
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Great mostaches!!
Of Course!
All Italian and guitar masters. Must be in the blood.
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Good fellas 🎸 🍕
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Tommy Tedesco said he wasn't a jazz player "I aint no Joe Pass" lol
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no one was a joe pass
@@paulgentile1024 100%
And at the end of that meal, they shared Twenty Small Cigars. 😎
lol, for 100 points: what did we used to call those back in the day in the bronx? [hint: totally not PC]
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I would have loved to be in any room with Zappa & other musicians. Although the styles of music I play are for the most part dissimilar to his Catalog I use bits and pieces of things I have gleaned listening to Zappa for the 35 or so years I've been playing & listening to him.
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I never listened to Frank as much as others but what I did hear was he was an accomplished musician. I don’t think he would have gotten lost as far as being able to play a a decent solo when called to.
I’m positive that he knew all the scales so he would have been listening to what was going on musically on stage an played accordingly.
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“Got tired of living like a rat “……truer words were never spoken
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Of course Frank could play jazz!
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Ever notice how many jazz guitar guys are Italians?
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Sad that it was not recorded
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Great restaurant, may I recommend the Hot Rats with Lumpy Gravy.
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I don't think zappa did drugs or drank but I have seen a cigarette hanging off his 6th string
Frank smoked like a chimney , but no drugs , thank you.
Yes, prostate cancer rates are probably higher amongst tobacco smokers. And, contrary to Frank's implication that he was drug free: Nicotine is a drug. So, is caffeine, by that way.
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@@KenTeel Interestingly enough, Prostate cancer may present itself in all males after certain ages whether they smoke or not. I think we are referring to illicit drugs and not the ones you have singled out. Thanks for watching and for your input! Please feel free to Like, Share and Subscribe to our channel.
I like the song Joe's Garage and Zappa was big in eastern europe
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So let me get this right you couldn’t play Zappa’s request but he played yours right?
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Don Accardo is great guitarist. I cleaned his Gold LP, 65 I THINK
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A lot of Italians there!!!
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Where there's a jazz guitar you will often find Italians. After World War two many
Soldiers settled back to New York New Jersey Area and wanted to make music
And enjoy life. There is a body of water the Long Island Sound.
There is an expression about the prevalence of fine Jazz guitars
Also called the Long Island sound.
Paganini would have been proud
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Zappa was a heavy smoker and coffee drinker. Other than that he didn't use drugs at all. I'm not even sure if he had the occasional beer.
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How about the night I had dinner with my grandmother AND my uncle on a THURSDAY!
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@@jazzguitartoday sorry
Hi, how do you know you are great Jazz musician?.......you meet God.........the music in heaven must be glorious.
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It's like the meeting of all the family dons.
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a whole lot of paisan guitar players there
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How is Jimmy Bruno in a "photo by Jimmy Bruno?"
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Top of the pops wops
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From Tedesco to Zappa, with love, in three parts: "Sounds like shit Frank." "So far, it sounds like shit." "It still sounds like shit." 🤣
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Table of Titans.
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"...could Frank play Jazz?" 😂😂😂 Baby Please!
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Everybody chews in 7/13 time.
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I can’t see Frank Bruno in that photo
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this is like the story of the million dollar quartet
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🤔🤔..
A lot of people did not know or understand how musically diverse Frank Zappa was, mainly because they listened to his music with established pre-expectations..
Because he experimented with be-bop, rock and even fusion and instruments like the synclavier, people pigeonholed him as a iight rock musician, ignoring the fact that he composed for classical and jazz..
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Christ, it sounds like a 'sit-down'.
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Sorry for the rudness I am a zappa fan
ITALIANS
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Everybody commenting on this post should first answer the question,"What is Jazz"?
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The unanswered question. With apologies to Charlie Ives.
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As FZ said: “Jazz is not dead; it just smells funny.”
godfellas
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All my paesanos....yes, and Frank did not do dope.
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Old men are the earths most bitter fruit.
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Is this guy seriously doubting if Frank could play jazz? WTF....
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That's what i thought. And then to say, with no evidence, that what Frank wrote was "s***". Wow, his opinion is what appears to be of a fecal substance.
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Jazz players got tired of “living like a rat”
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I was digging it until the Host put on the annoying stupid looking glasses, I cant look at him in them anymore, gotta go...
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Zappa couldn't shine Joe Pass's shoes
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Italians guys can play guitar... ❤
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